It is seventeen years after 9/11, and stating the motivating ideology of the people who took down the Twin Towers and attacked the Pentagon is taboo. The establishment media coverage glossed over it. Delving in it beyond the idea that the hijackers had hijacked their own religion as well as four airplanes will get you charges of “racism,” “bigotry,” and “Islamophobia.”
Meanwhile, the West has been inundated with people who hold to the same ideology as that of the hijackers. And no end is in sight, as the social media giants are moving quickly now to stifle all dissent and allow only one point of view to be heard: that which claims that Islam is a religion of peace and that mass Muslim migration into the West will have only a benign effect.
These are among the reasons why I wrote my book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS: to try to alert at least some people, before it is too late, about this centuries-old and implacable threat of jihad, and to demonstrate that many of our public policies regarding it are wrongheaded and foolish to the point of being suicidal.
Whether or not the book is read and heeded by those who can make a difference, it is certain that the denial, willful ignorance, and demonization of truth tellers in the West is leading to the ruin of free societies, and that ruin is coming faster than most people realize. British police are already directing their efforts to silencing and prosecuting online “hate speech” that often consists of nothing more than stating the jihad threat accurately. What will they be doing in five years? Ten?
The U.S. is not as far along that road as Britain is, but it is traveling the same road. If we don’t get off it, the same fate awaits us. And the jihad will advance apace. Could they see the world today, the 9/11 hijackers and Osama bin Laden couldn’t be more pleased.
It isn’t too late to turn things around. But it’s getting there. We must demand of our elected officials and candidates that they stand for the freedom of speech, and for a realistic approach to the jihad threat. If they don’t, it doesn’t matter where they stand on other issues. The great game of trying to create societies that protect human freedom and human dignity will be essentially over. At least for now.
Mac-101 says
It’s hard to believe that the MSM and PoliTicks have inverted this ALL to that Islam is the Religion of Peace. And people say the MSM is NOT powerful and can NOT sway/formulate the sheeples opinions!
christianblood says
17 years after 9/11 jihadist attacks carried out by 19 Arab jihadists, 15 of them Saudis, US leaders are still (literally) dancing with (Saudi=ISIS) head-choppers, shitting on the graves of 3000 Americans murdered on that day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35TUFmCtYY
Terry Gain says
Only very stupid people believe that that the Shiites are less of a threat than the Sunnis. Trump will deal with latter after he has dealt with the former.
Chand says
In the meantime, millions more children would have the Jihadi Koran taught by the Wahaabi schools/madarsas, funded by Sunni S. Arabia worldwide, drummed into their vulnerable brains, making them potential jihadis.
Why doesn’t Trump (and the rest of the world) directly challenge the Wahaabi spread of poison by calling them out and asking for a ban of all funding of madrasas?
Business interests?
More likely the reason is the cosying up of Israel to S. Arabia, to counter their common enemy Iran.
And the fact remains that Iran-supported Shias bore the brunt of the struggle against the Sunni ISIS and Alqaeda and sacrificed the most.
So it is all backwards……………the Sunni States should have been challenged and dealt with before Iran but then………………………..
………………..money, bullshit, walking……………………….
and the big shots travel in armored cars while the common folk face the knives and the bombs.
Just like before…..instead of going for Bin Laden and Pakistan, they went for Saddam.
christianblood says
On the 17th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, US State Department Goes Wild In Attempts To Defend Al-Qaeda White Helmets From Russian & Assad ‘Propaganda’. More below:
https://southfront.org/us-state-department-goes-wild-in-attempts-to-defend-white-helmets-from-russian-assad-propaganda/
christianblood says
Chand posted
(..In the meantime, millions more children would have the Jihadi Koran taught by the Wahaabi schools/madarsas, funded by Sunni S. Arabia worldwide, drummed into their vulnerable brains, making them potential jihadis.Why doesn’t Trump (and the rest of the world) directly challenge the Wahaabi spread of poison by calling them out and asking for a ban of all funding of madrasas? Business interests?..)
You are exactly right, Chand!
Recently, the Saudi tyrant (prince Salman) said the Saudis and the oil rich Gulf states spread Wahhabism at the request of the Western powers! (Please google this to see his own words). The West is part and the parcel to spread Wahhabi islam and jihadist ideology and of destruction of Christianity and other religious minorities around the globe! Click on the link below to see the type of Al-Qaeda groups that the satanic, Anti-Christ West is giving billions of dollars in Syria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=102&v=zwQvinmry5U&bpctr=1535722722
christianblood says
Terry Gain posted
(..Only very stupid people believe that that the Shiites are less of a threat than the Sunnis..)
That is NOT the point! The point is 19 Arab Sunni, Wahhabi jihadists, 15 of them Saudis, screaming “allahu akbar” attacked the US and murdered 3000 Americans and yet IMMORAL stupid American leaders, and the majority of Americans are still supporting, loving, arming and funding these same mass-murdering jihadists and their tyrannical head chopping leaders!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O0uR03s7m4
Andy says
Chrystia Freeland ditches NAFTA negotiations to attend anti-Trump conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuUa5sFt1gM
Mac-101 says
CNG is the answer for the next 100 years. Much cheaper, no refineries, just pipelines! and 30+% of the USA is sittin on it!
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No moe Blood for Oil!
Andy says
Act for America!
https://secure.actforamerica.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8U5NR0q8I
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcWYAa4Y2C0
Gordon Nichols says
The battle is now in politics numerous individuals are running for office throughout the US. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Directly or indirectly following the Muslim Brotherhood plan to take over our Country.
Minnesota , Michigan deceiving the public into believing that they are progressives. Yes, but only for a season of time until they can usher in their way of thinking and believing.
In Minnesota Ellison claims he just wanted to leave congress , in reality he can rum for AG and have his seat filled by a member of his own club. While the power doesn’t end there his short time staffer just was voted in to have a seat on the St Paul city council and do not forget his son Jerimiah is a powerhouse on the Minneapolis City council. Which by the way just voted and passed the vote to have equal oversight of the Minneapolis Police Department. Do you really think that this is all random circumstances?
We need to wake up America the war is to keep our precious Democracy from those who do not understand it or appreciate it.
Robert Mann says
It will not surprise Mr Spencer that the USA ambassador to New Zealand said on a national TV network 9/11/18 that the attacks on 9/11/01 were not a Muslim thing but were about terrorism. He stated the ‘reason’ that some Muslims were victims.
revereridesagain says
It is almost unbelievable the level of stupidity that evasion of reality can produce. Were “about terrorism” by whom and against whom and for what reason? Blank-out, no answer, just shout “Islamophobia!”, the mantra that will destroy the West.
StellaSaidSo says
Bet the dude was an Obama-appointee.
Richard Christian Hart says
New dictionary entry.
ISLAMANAUSIA; A ‘cancerous’ death cult.; Objective; The path to Armageddon..
An evil ideology derived from a war loving murderous paedophile whose prophesy was apparently spewed by Satan himself.
For the creation of living ‘zombies’, fodder for false martyrdom, to instil a deluded selfish belief, to murder and destroy to ‘attain’ an eternity of sexual perversion and depravity.
Frank Anderson says
Why would anyone expect “final, perfect, complete, unchangeable” islam to change? It has been a criminal conspiracy masquerading in the form of a “religion” for 1400 years, along the way killing every 3 minutes between 1 and 4 human beings, while enslaving billions? FORM never overcomes SUBSTANCE in countries where real law instead of Islamic law controls. [Capitals used for emphasis in place of bold, italic or underline which I cannot at present find.]
gravenimage says
Very true, Frank.
elee says
1400 years have passed and no end is in sight
Jaladhi says
Exactly! It won’t end due the support of traitor politicians of the non-Muslim world
Alexander Newman says
I do think that the end is in sight. The law of Jihad pits Muslims not only against Christians, and people of other religions, but Muslims against Muslims unto the death, as we see every day in the news. The religion is destroying itself bit by bit, Not only that, the western apostasy from Christianity and the radically secular, filthy, carnal pop culture resulting from it, which panders to the lowest in people, and, like a powerful acid
corrodes and eats away everything that is not like itself , is slowly and in many Islamic countries not so slowly (example Turkey) winning over the youth who would be the next generation of Muslims. Jihadists condemning the behavior and “doctrine” of other jihadists are obliged to wage war against each other as infidels. “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
Gradually too so-called “peaceful” Muslims will come to realize that the Koran cannot be inspired by a God of peace and love, and those of good will who are sincerely seeking the Truth will secretly and then openly embrace the the Gospel of the only true Teacher of divine and everlasting peace and love.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
Obama 2012 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”
OFBSER 2018 “Those wanting a future must begin to tell the truth about the Prophet and Islam”
gravenimage says
Some *are* telling the truth–too few so far, though.
Frank Anderson says
GI, this is probably where it is up to “us” to spread the truth one person at a time. “Light that candle.”
BillyBob3 says
Good point, but it is also up to “us” to spread the truth that 9/11 attacks by Muslim jihadists were assisted, facilitated, and aided & abetted by our own government operatives too!
Michael Copeland says
Have a copy of Robert Spencer’s “History of Jihad” to lend.
Have a copy of “Reliance of the Traveller” to lend.
Encourage people to inform themselves.
Frank Anderson says
MC, I hope both of us are following that plan. I pre-ordered in February 2 copies of RS’s History which arrived in August. Amazon earned my high praise for this and Kindle issues. One of those copies is being circulated to friends with the request either to read it and pass it back so that I can pass it again, or to preview it and buy their own copy to pass around after they finish the book. This is one way to light some candles.
WCM says
To Michael Copeland:
Thank you for making me aware of Reliance of the Traveller. It seems that the best technique to use when confronting liberals/progressives (sic) and Muslims in a battle of words, is to confront them with Satan’s words from his (their) own written sources, as approved by the “four schools.” Brilliant!
Mirren10 says
” … spread the truth that 9/11 attacks by Muslim jihadists were assisted, facilitated, and aided & abetted by our own government operatives too!”
None of you 9/11 ‘truthers’ have ever been able to satisfactorily explain exactly *why* the American government would want to spectacularly murder 3000 of its own citizens. So until you can do that, why don’t you just shut up ?
Frank Anderson says
Mirren10, please confirm that you were responding to BilluyBob and not to me. I have my doubts about the post-attack handling of the Bin Laden and other Saudis who were allowed to fly out of the US when all other civilian flights were grounded, and the total lack of communication among US security agencies that might have stopped the attack but for their internal boundary and jurisdictional failures. And I certainly object to the outright lie told by GWB that “Islam is a Religion of Peace” with every reason to know otherwise, with the full intention of fooling US citizens instead of telling the truth. But as far as my accepting the label “9/11 truther”, I don’t think that should apply to me. Please clarify what you intended.
Mirren10 says
” … spread the truth that 9/11 attacks by Muslim jihadists were assisted, facilitated, and aided & abetted by our own government operatives too!”
The above was a direct quote from ‘BillyBob’s comment, therefore it should be clear I was referring to him, not you.
Frank Anderson says
Thank you.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlwaysActions/status/1039006081987616769/video/1
WCM says
I see from the date, this was a 1989 video of someone, somewhere.
What were the circumstances? Location? Speaker? Sponsoring group?
Further info would be helpful.
Thanks.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
WCM, here is a link with her full speech as well as context and event info. If you research her biography further you will understand her influence and success of pushing Islam into our public school curriculum.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4711383/sharifa-alkhateeb-span-speech-1989
mummymovie says
“Could they see the world today, the 9/11 hijackers and Osama bin Laden couldn’t be more pleased.
It isn’t too late to turn things around. But it’s getting there. We must demand of our elected officials and candidates that they stand for the freedom of speech, and for a realistic approach to the jihad threat. If they don’t, it doesn’t matter where they stand on other issues. The great game of trying to create societies that protect human freedom and human dignity will be essentially over. At least for now.”
A profound and chilling statement.
Heavy stuff.
Frank Anderson says
“Islam is the Religion of Peace” GWB 9/01. How many times has this lie been repeated and fooled how many people for how long, including me? NO MORE!
Kepha says
Ironically, many of the people who most loudly tout Islam as a “religion of peace” are people who absolutely hated and still hate Dubya Bush.
Berengaria says
Thank You Frank Anderson, that one Infamous Sentence, Mouthed by GW, while he comforted the Muslims in one of their “Islamic Centers” in DC, was the Reason that I lost Faith in our President Bush.
Just a few days after Muslims had murdered 3 Thousand Innocent American Citizens, GW was reassuring the Radical Imams, while admonishing Americans not to Blame the Muslims.
Frank Anderson says
B. it took me several years to see through the lie. This was not an error, but an outright lie intended to fool all who were ignorant enough and trusting enough to believe it. I still have my “Miss Me Yet?” t-shirt and wear it frequently. When asked, I remind people of the lie and say “not really.” I give specific credit to Glenn Beck for exposing the lie to me. Also for introducing me to our host’s book, PIG to islam and the crusades,
j_not_a says
“Islam is a religion of peace” repeated as nauseam ever since. One of the most dumbass, perverse, lying, piece of crap utterings by any politician let alone a POTUS, ever. George W, Bush, completely hoodwinked by izlumic deceitfulness. Absolute moron.
Frank Anderson says
Could it be that it is time for the statement, “Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics” should become “Lies, Damned Lies and Liberals”?
Gary says
Oh the end is in sight alright. And those who practice their “Religion of Peace” will eventually stand before the King of Kings and give an account for their foolish actions. Until then….
“And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. “Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy.”
gravenimage says
9/11: Seventeen years have passed, and no end is in sight
………………….
God knows this is true–and there have been 33,800 Jihad terror attacks since then, and counting.
WhoKnows says
Page 197 at the bottom says the city of Varna is in Hungary. It is not and has never been. It talk about a Hungarian king “Ladislaus”. That is not the name of the king who died there. The name is Vladislav Yagello III (aka Wladislaw Jagiello) , a Polish-Hungarian king (of both countries). City of Varna is obsessed with this guy. His name is everywhere (a museum too). They call him Vladislav Varnenchik. Ladislaus is the next king of Hungary, after Vladislav Yagello III.
Santiago Matamoros says
From Wikipedia:
Battle of Varna
On 10 November 1444, one of the last major battles of the Crusades in European history was fought outside the city walls. The Turks routed an army of 20,000–30,000 crusaders led by Ladislaus III of Poland (also Ulászló I of Hungary), which had assembled at the port to set sail to Constantinople. The Christian army was attacked by a superior force of 55,000 or 60,000 Ottomans led by sultan Murad II. Ladislaus III was killed in a bold attempt to capture the sultan, earning the sobriquet Warneńczyk (of Varna in Polish; he is also known as Várnai Ulászló in Hungarian or Ladislaus Varnensis in Latin). The failure of the Crusade of Varna made the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 1453 all but inevitable, and Varna (with all of Bulgaria) was to remain under Ottoman domination for over four centuries. Today, there is a cenotaph of Ladislaus III in Varna.
Westman says
Ancient religions died when they became obsolete, that is, unable to improve life in an advancing world. Islam also will have a “sell by” date when it begins to collapse under its own ignorance as former believers leave it. How long it will take is unknown, yet it is inevitable.
Stopping Muslim immigration for both the US and the EU is a good idea from the standpoint of allowing those who will integrate to have freedom from the fundamentalists who would threaten their lives and hold them compliant under Islam. Many Muslim immigrants do not attend the Mosque or participate in prayers, knowing the old ways are not the way to advancements in the West.
The terrorism will go on until enough men from the former Islamic community have had enough and start actively throttling the fundamentalists. This cannot happen in nations that open their doors without vetting or limitations upon immigration – the parallel society that grows most quickly will dominate the rest.
Frank Anderson says
Westman, I readily admit you are entitled to your opinion. I disagree. By the time enough invaders become citizens knowledgeable and committed to liberty, and willing to put their lives on the line by opposing the death cult, there will be no liberty to defend. Please do not take offense at my suggestion to read Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning if you have not before. Even if you have, a second look paying attention to his theory of the “delusion of reprieve” might give reason to re-examine your thinking.
Yes there are apostates, of whom I highly respect and admire several by name. Yes they expose the ongoing horror of the daily practices that have no place in civilized society. But those bumping their heads on the pavement 5 times a day neither read their books nor consider their stories except to plot their murder. The best way to make sure nothing gets done is to leave it to someone else.
Westman says
I have no problem with what you’ve written except the assumption that the forehead-bumpers are in the majority of the muslim immigrants and first next-generation born in the West. I think that is unknown and needs to be determined since it will be a true indicator of the future.
Any intelligent Western government should be assesing this.
Frank Anderson says
Westman, I think both of us can sincerely question where we can find an intelligent Western government, with the exception of the Trump administration because it employs John Bolton and others who see clearly, along with Hungary, Poland etc. Far less than 10 percent of a population can control a society or country when not limited by respect for a functioning legal system. Look at any Nazi or Communist government you wish. The unconstrained threat of torture and death that is part and parcel of islam makes it unnecessary to have a “majority” in order to impose its evil. Those who do not commit evil personally are either required to, or without being required, support the evil by remaining part of islam. There is no moderate division. Any deviation from the “final, perfect, complete, unchangeable” version is apostasy punishable by death. Islam has been in charge for 1400 years. Very few places have removed its control once taken,
Frank Anderson says
Westman, an additional thought: When I was practicing and in all my other dealings I tried at all times to make my word the most valuable asset I have. I considered that if I am ever discredited in presenting a client’s case, or handling my own business the loss of credibility would be the most devastating and permanent injury I could suffer. I paid dearly for that outlook and am still paying for refusing to assist in fraudulent conduct.
The EU leaders who have been betraying their FIDUCIARY duty to the governments and citizens they “govern” have lost any claim to trust. They have allowed in millions of parasites and killers who have no intention of joining the societies they invade, and plan to enslave the very people who put those leaders in office. I don’t have an illustrative case at hand on trust; but I do on attorney-client privilege and its loss. In United States v. Krasnov, 143 F.Supp 184(E.D.Pa. 1951) the court wrote “Once privilege has been waived it cannot be reclaimed.” That case was affirmed by the US Supreme Court under the name Oppenheimer v. United States, 355 U.S. 5 (1957). Once trust has been thrown away it should NEVER be given again. New leadership is required that demonstrates from the start a commitment to the values of liberty that the present leadership seeks to destroy.
BobK says
Seventeen years. It is 2018. Contrary to U.S. warfighting doctrine, the United States government has still not identified the “enemy” we face in this war.
You cannot hit the bullseye if there is no target.
U.S. warfighting doctrine requires military professionals to begin any analysis of a threat with WHO the enemy says they are and WHY they say they are fighting.
Since 9/11/01, the United States government has failed to do this.
Yet, 100% of the enemy we face say they are “muslims waging jihad to establish an Islamic State under sharia (Islamic law).”
The enemies include Al Qaeda, the Islamic State, Hamas, Hizbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the OIC, and all the jihadis killed or captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq & on the streets of Europe and America.
Since 9/11, 159 Americans have been killed and 502 wounded in 71 jihadi attacks perpetrated by muslims in 24 different states inside America.
U.S. military generals, State Department officials, National Security advisors, and directors of U.S. intelligence agencies continue to rely upon Islamic “coalition partners” and Islamic advisors to tell them how to fight the war.
The enemy very clearly makes their intentions known. The enemy is not the problem. Our leaders are the problem.
U.S. leadership has failed and continues to fail America and Americans are dead because of it – nearly 700 killed or wounded since 9/11 here at home.
If our generals would focus on teaching their troops what sharia is and what it says about warfighting, then we would have brought more troops home alive from Iraq and Afghanistan, and killed more of the enemy.
This is the most frequent comment Understanding the Threat (UTT) receives from military members participating in the 3-day training program.
They are furious when they realize that knowing sharia BEFORE they deployed would actually have saved lives and changed the way U.S. forces could have tactically fought battles.
President Trump stands virtually alone in this administration as someone who has some semblance of an understanding Islam is the problem and sharia is the threat doctrine of our enemy.
[Extracted from:
https://www.understandingthethreat.com
» U.S. Generals Refuse to Identify Islam as the Threat = Another Dead Soldier | September 6, 2018.
» Americans Will Win This War In the Shadows of the Heroes of Flight 93 | September 10, 2018.]
kouldb says
The Zionist’s WOMD against Christianity — Islam. Is already backfiring. It’s just a matter of time before everyone is ‘woke’ to both. Which is why the traitors who’ve flooded our nations with two of the most toxic & deadly ideologies known to humanity. Will ultimately pay for their treachery with their lives. And ultimately. The the only solution will be a mass cleansing of entire continents — both Zionists & Muslims must be sent back to whence they originated. And that’s precisely what will happen. History will repeat itself. Mark my words. Deus vult!
Frank Anderson says
kouldb, I can’t help asking whether you have any Jewish friends or have attended any Jewish religious services to see for yourself what Jews teach and pray for? I did not until I was passed 40 years old. What I saw, heard and learned showed me that the horrible picture painted of Jews in the New Testament is simply false. I can’t say that the Jews I know are easy to get along with. They ordered me to move along because I tell the truth about islam and its murderous intent to Jews. But just as I have the right and duty to select my friends, so do they. I still treasure what I learned in their company. Some of the most worthy and admirable people I have met served their term in the Israeli military and came to the US for a year to tell about Israel. Jews do not aspire to ruling the world.
gravenimage says
Frank, kouldb has been spamming this viciousness all over the comments threads–and he has spouted similar bs before.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I doubt I will ever stop my respect and courtesy to you. One of a number of unresolved issues in my life is my uncle, Father By Choice #2, who was in all ways a really good and kind man and one of my greatest teachers. He had one flaw that was never explained in the almost 30 years I knew him before he died. He passionately and blindly hated Jews. It was totally out of character; but he hated Jews.
My official adopted father’s (FBC#1) best friend in town was Jewish. Even after my father died he would come by every once in a while and ask my official adopted mother, “Are you okay? Do you need anything? Can I do anything to help?” It was about 30 years later that another Jewish friend helped me learn why and the real picture of Judaism. Even if kouldb is an irredeemable Jew-hater, there might be others who lean that way but are “on the fence” and teetering who might be motivated to take another look at their passion with reason instead of anger. Considering the 10 days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur are supposed to be days of reflection and reconciliation, an effort to address this hatred is not wasted. Thank you always.
Relic says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKK-_uW2058
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“About 50 Tory MPs met to discuss how & when they could oust PM May – media”
https://www.rt.com/uk/438232-may-oust-plan-party/
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Pope Francis Compares Vatican Whistleblower to Satan”
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/11/pope-francis-compares-vatican-whistleblower-satan/
Personally, I think Vigano is saint material. What does that make Pope Frankenstein?
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Maria_Vigan%C3%B2#August_2018_letter)
concerned citizen says
Islam is one of the faces of Evil (yes, there are many of them). Also is Leftism; no wonder they frequently act together against our (judeo/christian) ideals… We must strongly reject all agreement with them as ways of conceiving the world. With muslims and leftist people, sometimes, there could be a dialogue, but, even then, let us be extremely careful.not to give up our principles. Most of them expect us to do exactly this…
Frank Anderson says
C.C. I suggest a dialogue with evil is totally pointless except to give them time and opportunity to distract and build their strength while wasting ours. Evil respects nothing, not even the lives under its control. Only fear can control evil, which never arises from the weakness displayed by feeble people on their knees begging to negotiate. Look at the contempt Hitler showed Neville Chamberlain and Louis Daladier when they surrendered Czechoslovakia, with whom GB and France had treaties of border security that were destroyed, without even the courtesy of having a Czechoslovakian representative present. This is not an isolated example in history or personal experience. Evil people are gutless cowards in the face of strength combined with determination. “What’s mine is mine; What’s yours is negotiable,” to them.
duh swami says
Question…Was the 911 attack a one two jihad punch? The crash, the fall? Or was it two different attacks, one by Muslims, the other by ‘nobody knows’…If the buildings were pre-rigged for controlled demolition, how long did it take to rig it? And how did the riggers go undetected by other workers? If you cut down a pine tree, you can make if fall where you want it by cutting a wedge out in the direction you want it to fall, then cut a straight line from the back to the wedge and the tree will fall…The same process can be used to fall a large building,,,But they did not fall over, they collapsed straight down, which does imply a controlled demolition…What’s missing is a culprit…If not Muslims, who? Black ops or the CIA are insufficient answers…
WPM says
The world trade center is not a pine tree ,it is a building of truss construction. Cutting or destroying a few truss will cause them to fail bring them down on the next set of trusses that will fail on the extra weight. It is cost saving to not “over build ” in truss construction .Truss construction is a series of trusses supporting each floor it is held together with a steel framing. The trusses help distribute the weight supporting the building. The Jihadist did their homework taking a plane that had a long journey with a full tank of fuel leaving from a city close to New York , Boston ,the heat of the fuel melted the trusses have them fail like a house of cards. Truss construction is consider light weight and cheaper then concrete around steel frame construction. The Empire State building has steel and concrete construction it had a large military plane crash into it in the 1940s with a fire that burned for a few days and stood up to the damage. The world trade center was a building full of people it was cheaper faster less chance of someone getting caught in the operation to bring it down the building driving a jet full of fuel into the building then any kind of “black ops” non-sense . It does not take a highly train engineer to drive a planes into buildings to bring them down A fire of great heat on the truss members will cause them to fail in less the 50 min. bring them down to he next floor that will fail under the extra weight like a house of cards .It will look like control demolition because that is what control demolition does remove a few trusses causing the collapse of truss buildings straight down. The world trade center collapse rapidly after the failure of the first few trusses under the extra weight it was not made to carry.
WPM says
Sorry about the typos,
If you want more information on this subject try Collapse of Burning Building by Vincent Dunn, all these theories about outside involvement of American agencies on the 911 terror attack just give the Jihads more excuses that they are not the real player in this event and others happening around the world at this time.
WPM says
Chop off the top half of a pine tree will not make it fail. Remove a card from the middle or near the top of a house of cards will bring down the whole house. Like a chain is only as strong as its weakest link a truss is only as strong as its weakest member. Stop trying to blame the victim for 911,the CIA or any other government agency had nothing to gain by this attack ,it was shown it failed it mission by not preventing it.
Mac-101 says
Building #7! “Pull It”???
WPM says
Building 7 was heavy damage in the collapse of building 1 and 2. It was not exposed to the heavy heat of jet fuel that damage the other two buildings. Building #7 was truss system building support system also. It did not get impacted by the planes ,it is a truss system also, It did collapse at 5:20:52PM officially on that day because of uncontrolled large fire burning and lack of water {all water mains in the area were broken} and the standpipe system (piping running thru-out building over 75 ft tall in NYC to get water to the upper floors were damaged by the impact of the other two building falling on WTC 7. } . The truss system was less compromised because the insulation was not blown off the truss supports by the plane impact or heat of the burning jet fuel protecting them longer from any direct heat. It still fail because of truss failure. It took longer but still lack of water on the fire damaged by the other buildings falling caused it to fail also it burned uncontrolled for many hours. You can pull any theories you want but these are the facts that have come out from engineers about this fire. The outside of building WTC#7 was red granite façade which took some of the impact better then the glass towers of WTC 1 and 2 fell on it. The fire rating on the truss of WTC #7 was three hours with the insulation in place over them and direct heat (WTC 1 and WTC2 had all insulation blown off in impact of the planes test have shown}.WTC 1 and 2 also had greater heat because of the jet fuel causing their collapse .Still uncontrolled uncheck heat still caused the collapse of 7 WTC at 5:20 PM because of the lack of putting a large fire out in a truss building and the damage of have two other building fall on it. Can you “pull it” any way you want the CIA had nothing to gain , space aliens had nothing to gain , NYC had nothing to gain ,America had nothing to gain Jihadist are the only group to have anything to gain by terror\ murder of the good citizens of NYC of America. I was a first responder and have read a lot about the events of that day ,I am not giving anyone blame here ,but the groups the earned it Jihadists Islamic terrorist .
WPM says
The plane crash into the Empire state building was into the 78 floor in July 25 1945 the fire was brought under control that day {I stand corrected},but because the building did not have the duct work new buildings have that could spread the fire smoke and heat over a larger area{force air heating and air condition running around a central core system of many floors}.The Empire State building was not as mention above a truss system supporting the building it did not have central air conditioning or core heating system duck work {it had steam heated piping} .These elements help bring it down the WTC ,most large building all over the world over 20 stories build in the last 50 years are truss supporting system buildings. Many have central core systems for heating and air conditioning cover more then one floor. These elements because the cost of truss is very cheap make them easy targets to bring down the whole building attacking only a small part of the building. The central air and heating conditioning duck work make the travel of smoke and heat more wide spread then the area of the fire .The fire in the first work trade bombing had people many floors above the basement exposed to smoke as an example. The first bombing (1993) was in a subbasement foundation that had a lot of concrete between the explosion and the buildings truss construction above .The foundation was over built being below the river water level and the building having a deep foundation to bedrock because most of the land around WTC center is fill brought in from the 19 century. The area was under water in the 18 century ,I know this has little to do with Jihad, or terror ,but I like to debunk these people who say it could not happen as the Jihads proclaim it happen in 9/11/01.
Mac-101 says
Operation Able Danger!
Terry Gain says
Duh Swami
Your comment is bloody nonsense. All of these conspiracy theories were completely debunked by Screw Loose Change and NIST.
https://www.nist.gov/engineering-laboratory/final-reports-nist-world-trade-center-disaster-investigation
WPM says
+1
Thank you can read my above comments .Lets put the blame where it belongs Islam as practice today as was practice over the last 1400 years .This blame the victims has gone long enough with Islamic Jihadist, be it murder with a stabbing on a London street, rape grooming gangs in England ,shooting up night clubs in Florida, shooting fellow workers everywhere in the world, mass murder in office building in down town Manhattan. Duh Swami I do not blame Hindis for the murder of millions of fellow Hindis by Moslems over the last 1400 years .
ConstantineXI says
Need to exert all efforts to get the vote out of those who oppose the Democratic Party in the 2018 elections. The Democratic Party cannot be allowed to win the 2018 elections
shortfattexan says
Since 9/11 Muslims have averaged one jihad murder about every four and a half hours. All day and all night, every day and every night, for seventeen years.
shortfattexan says
That’s just jihad murders. That number does not include Muslim-on-Muslim murders, such as honor killings, and other general Islamic craziness (for example, forcing schoolgirls back into a burning building because they weren’t properly covered up).
Terry Gain says
A smart person who uses the pseudonym Observer made the following comment at Legal Insurrection. I couldn’t agree more.
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Americans have every right, and American leaders have the affirmative responsibility, to exclude from this nation foreigners who have pledged their allegiance to an ideology that is fundamentally hostile to the most basic American values, values such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, separation of church and state, civil rights for women and homosexuals, etc.
Geoffrey Britain says
I agree too. But left out is the impossibility of doing so while retaining our republic/democracy. The Left and its millions of liberal useful idiots will not allow actual solutions to eventuate. Our problem is not Islam, our problem is our refusal to accept that half of Americans embrace ideologies (leftist isms) that will and are resulting in our destruction. Those on the left have embraced, knowingly or unknowingly suicidal ideologies and they are determined to impose them upon the rest of us. Failing that, they are doing their best to obstruct any and all actions that might save America.
Terry Gain says
Geoffrey
I have had enough arguments with leftists to leave me with no doubt that most of them think Islam is benign. They form their opinions based on interactions with individual Muslims rather than reading about the doctrine and history of Islam. They don’t understand that it is a conquest ideology.
brane pilot says
No one has ever escaped alive from the planet of the apes.
This is a historical fact.
WPM says
America can control who is permitted who let to immigrate here, who can be a citizen here without changing anything about our republic/ democracy .People who are not citizens can should be deported out of the country if they threaten the safety of citizens here because they do not have the rights to be here as non-citizens. You do not earn squatters rights by camping out on someone else property. You do not gain citizenship by simply crossing a countries border .Let the “great Islamic” countries take in and help their own brother refugees .
Walter Sieruk says
Those vicious brutal and murderous jihad attacks which occurred on September 11, 2001 ,very much, exposes the violent and deadly nature of Islam. For many times the jihadist members of different Islamic terror entities have gathered together and chanted the words “We love death, they love life.” Likewise those jihadist/Muslims don’t stop with those awful words; they carry through with jihad suicide/homicide attacks. Any sane person would ask “Why do those jihad –minded Muslims have such a mindset of murderous madness?” The answer is that they obtain the way of thinking and believing from the “holy book” of Islam, the Koran. As some people call it the Qu ‘ran. For example the Koran in Sura 9:111 instructs “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Therefore it may be conclude that Islam is actually a death cult. In great and wonderful contrast to the death cult which is Islam there is Christianity which is centered on Jesus and His teachings. For Jesus did not teach killing and death but taught and gave life, a good peaceful well lived life and more. For example Jesus declared “I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10. [K.J.V.]
Walter Sieruk says
On this seventeenth anniversary of that murderous jihad affront against humankind and vicious attack against United States which occurred on September 11, 2001 now come and gone. As Americans we should still and must remember that for the United States to continue as a great power in the world in spite of the current threats of the Islamic terrorism by jihadist /Muslim terrorists who are operatives of ISIS, Al Qaeda and other jihadists of other similar jihad terror entities. Americans then should have Vigilance, Conviction and, of course, Fortitude. As one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, had declared “Let the eye of vigilance never be closed.” and “A conviction that we are right accomplishes half the difficulty of correcting wrong.” Likewise, Mr. Jefferson had also stated “Fortitude…teaches us to meet and surmount difficulties; not to fly from them.” So in other words we, as Americans, should have learned keep moving on strongly with Vigilance, Conviction and Fortitude.
Walter Sieruk says
Those heinous and murderous jihad attack which occurred on September 11, 2001 reflects the teaching of the “holy book” of Islam, the Quran. As, for example, the Quran instructs in Sura 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed…” Those jihadist /Muslims who were al Qaeda operatives by using jets as missiles on 9/11 were following the instruction of the Quran to “Kill and be killed” for the cause of Islam Nevertheless, the apologists for Islam still have the gall to make the claim the “Islam is a peaceful religion.” What an outlandishly false claim to make
yohanan says
Know the enemy: MEMRI brings a translation of Sept 11, 2018 message of current Al-Qaeda Leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri…
https://www.memri.org/jttm/17th-anniversary-911-al-qaeda-leader-ayman-al-%E2%80%8Ezawahiri-calls-upon-muslims-unite-battle-against#_ednref3
Gjallarhornet says
The West is in denial of the magnitude of the threat. Like somebody clinging on to their naivety when presented with irrefutable proof that the person they love and believe to be utterly kind, is in truth a dangerous asshole. In both cases, taking in the truth will turn the known world upside down. But it will have to be done (in both cases). It will just take some time. I believe we should not be fatalists and give up. Sooner or later the truth will prevail.