You thought it would stop with the defaming and deplatforming of foes of jihad terror? No. Soviet-style judgments of insanity are next. And what will come after that? The answer is clear enough.
“Marine Le Pen furious after being ordered to undergo psychiatric tests,” by Ben McPartland, The Local, September 20, 2018 (thanks to Undaunted):
Marine Le Pen, the leader of the French far right has been left shocked and furious after a court ordered her to be examined by a psychiatrist to determine if she “is capable of understanding remarks and answering questions”.
Le Pen, who is head of the former National Front party – now National Rally (Rassemblement National) revealed on Twitter her shock and anger at being ordered to undertake a psychiatric assessment.
The unusual summoning is in relation to Le Pen having tweeted out gruesome propaganda images from terror group Isis that showed the bodies of people having been executed by the so-called Islamic State.
In March Le Pen was charged with circulating “violent messages that incite terrorism or pornography or seriously harm human dignity” and that can be viewed by a minor.
And as part of their investigation it appears magistrates in Nanterre near Paris have ordered Le Pen to visit a psychiatrist for an expert assessment.
“I thought I had been through it all: well, no! For denouncing the horrors of Daesh (Isis) by tweets the “justice system” has referred me for a psychiatric assessment. How far will they go?!” she said on Thursday.
The order came from the district court in Nanterre and was dated September 11th.
Le Pen photographed and tweeted out the order with the words: “It’s really incredible. This regime is really starting to worry me,” suggesting that the case was part of a government plot to discredit her.
The order calls for the tests to be carried out “as soon as possible” to establish whether she “is capable of understanding remarks and answering questions”….
Marine Le Pen posted the Isis pictures just a few weeks after the Paris terror attacks in November 2015 in which 130 people were killed.
The images included a photo of the decapitated body of US journalist James Foley.
“Daesh is this!” Le Pen wrote in a caption, using an Arabic acronym for IS, in response to a TV journalist drawing a comparison between the extremists and the French far-right.
Le Pen later deleted the picture of Foley after a request from his family, saying she had been unaware of his identity.
“I am being charged for having condemned the horrors of Daesh,” Le Pen told AFP.
“In other countries this would have earned me a medal.”
The crime is punishable by up to three years in prison and a fine of 75,000 euros ($91,000).
StellaSaidSo says
It’s not called the EUSSR for no reason.
ianB says
One of the main reasons we need to be out of it.
Ian W says
What difference at this point would it make?
gravenimage says
I think it would. The nations no longer beholden to laws allowing Muslims to flood in would be free to act in keeping them out.
Maureen Roberts says
‘UK six years in prison for Islamophobia under new proposals’ , Jack Buckby, you tube .
Westman says
Apparently a socialist republic can come into existence by either revolution or evolutionary socialism. The result is the same – the crushing of dissent and persecution of truth-tellers by the state.
Ernie says
+1
Selma Soss says
I agree with a comment above. Maybe it is time for French Resistance…
a French Revolution?
Doris Frech says
+ 1
Charles says
Stella, your anti-socialist slip is showing.
Frank Anderson says
Charles, I think there are a large number, almost certainly a majority of anti-totalitarians reading and writing here. I’ll even predict you are one of us.
gravenimage says
+1
Buraq says
So, now we are mad to criticize murder in the name of Islam!? No, this decision of the French court is mad!
“Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.” (Henry Wadsworth Longfellow)
mortimer says
Yes, Buraq, the madness is in the JUDGE. This is pure FASCISM to condemn a MAJOR POLITICIAN like this.
THE COURT SHOULD NOT INTERFERE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. There must freedom of expression in the political arena! What did all those French and Allied soldiers and airmen die for?
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, do you see a corruption of legal process as happened under Hitler?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’ve done a little research and it seems Nanterre, which is a western suburb of Paris, is a no-go zone. That says it all right there.
CogitoErgoSum says
To see how sane she is I would like for them to ask her to explain her understanding of Quran 9:29 and also to give a definition for “Jizya,” “dhimmi” and “Holy Trinity.” Then they can tell us how a “sane” person should have answered.
LytchZam says
Yeah, I would like you – as well as “them” – to explain the “Holy Trinity.” Sir Isaac Newton was a pretty bright guy – smarter than I – and he thought the concept was blasphemy against the 1st Commandment.
Just please use terms all of us in Podunk, USA can understand if it’s not too much bother.
mortimer says
Quiet you two. The QUESTION IS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
BRAVE SAILORS, SOLDIERS AND AIRMEN DIED FOR THAT FREEDOM that the judge wants to TAKE AWAY with a bang of a gavel!
SHAME ON THE FRENCH COURTS AND LAWYERS! SHAME!
Anne Smith says
The French have always been very dodgy and they now have a little dictator in Macron who thinks he is the second Napoleon.
Giacomo Latta says
Why do judges not receive the very prognosis they have reserved for Ms.Le Pen?
Frank Anderson says
G.L. I have been in front of several outrageous judges and am very happy to be retired. One went to sleep during a 2 day trial that involved issues of child neglect and abuse. One made me work for 2 years on a contingent fee case that I won and paid me minimum wage for my work, about a tenth what expert, experienced lawyer witnesses testified I should have been paid. One made it a point to belittle me for pleading the other side’s outrageous conduct at a funeral. One screamed like a maniac because he didn’t like something. A whole state supreme court allowed a state bar to defy federal witness protection law and a federal court order.
Just because someone has the power, influence and connections to be a judge does not make that person an honest, competent and fit person to decide issues. Only the most extraordinary complaints will be effective in controlling or removing such judges. One of the many flaws of the legal system poorly checked by the appeal process.
CogitoErgoSum says
Mortimer, I’m not a fan of the Silencio policy regarding the truth so I’ll give it a shot at explaining the Holy Trinity as it was explained to me. Basically it’s a mystery beyond our understanding but what I do understand is that the Holy Trinity is God, who consists of Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit. Mary (the mother of Jesus) is not a member of the Trinity and neither is the angel Gabriel as Muslims contend. Muslims are inconsistent on the definition but Christians are not. I would like to see which definition the board of inquiry would decide as being the “sane” one or if there is some other definition of which I am unaware since they are the ones who decide what is sane and insane.
As for Sir Isaac Newton, I think if you look closely into some of his beliefs you could conclude they were very strange indeed. He’s a whole other ballgame.
infidel numero uno says
This is a testament to just how far the current regime has crawled up the evil, foul, depraved, immoral, unholy, vile backside of the 7th century backward, retarded, degenerate, corrupt, unholy cult known as izlaam. This cult should be eradicated from the face of the Earth!!.
eduardo odraude says
I still have much hope for Europe, but stories like this make me wonder if I’m hoping against hope.
In Europe it almost seems the next decades could bring a quite smooth transition from free cultures to Islamic culture and re-education camps.
Perhaps Islamic terror and intimidation will gradually break all the individual souls that are not exceedingly strong, resilient, and individualized.
Jean Terry says
Certainly seems like it. I am amazed at the blindness of people here in the U.S. too.
Darryl Kerney says
how very odd it is that jihadists are all “mentally ill” AND those who expose and fight against islamic jihad are too !
almost as if everyone is crazy except the liberal lefty socialists who insist that THIS TIME “real” socialism will work, despite it’s 100 % failure rate so far…..
gravenimage says
Spot on.
eduardo odraude says
Not Marine Le Pen, but that court needs psychiatric help. Or perhaps the problem of the court is arrogance combined with ignorance. Or perhaps the judge is a cowardly conformist.
Renate says
That’s what I was thinking, too. Marine Le Pen is not the crazy one here.
Lydia Church says
Right!
So isis can post these images as real threats, but when she calls attention to it by exposing them, then ‘she’ is compared to an ‘extremist’ and called a ‘terrorist’? The people accusing her need to have their own heads examined!
Andy says
+1
gravenimage says
So true, Renate.
Renate says
I feel sorry for Marine Le Pen. She loves France and she is treated this way. It’s a travesty of justice.
gravenimage says
Agreed. This is shameful.
Joe says
This is a political sentence. There is no definition of insanity. Whenever evil people want to discredit a political opponent, they question the opponent’s sanity. They do this all the time. For example, they question Trump’s sanity. I question the judge’s morals, if he has any to question.
Jean Terry says
What madness. It is getting scary to live in democratic countries. The ones ordering the psychiatric assessment are the ones that need one. We have all these leftist people who live in denial of reality and expect everyone else to do the same.
gravenimage says
There is *nothing* democratic about this.
Johane says
The world is completely upside down. Black is White, good is bad, left is right etc. People who are talking or “going” after the bad ones are the bad ones now??? People doing crimes are the victims????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world is going insane!!!
Here in Canada it is the same thing with Trudeau & company. In January, when this 11-12 years old girl got her hijab cut by a chinese man, Trudeau was all over the place saying all kinds of things. Then we learn it wasn’t true. Trudeau didn’t apologize to the Chinese community or Canadians. Last here a chinese girl was killed by a “refugee” and nothing from Trudeau. There was a vigil Saturday for the girl, Trudeau was nowhere to be found. Here is a link to an article about him answering a few questions about her and refugees (and also comments from some people on twitter):
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/09/18/creepy-trudeau-chuckles-smirks-when-asked-about-ibrahim-ali-being-arrested-in-murder-of-marrisa-shen/
gravenimage says
Just repulsive, Johane.
Johane says
I agree with you!!
Carol the 1st says
Johane – curious, I made 4 chases after your link but none would play. Ezra Levant provides clips however (hopefully studying Trudeau’s mental state is not too off-topic):
Trudeau denies responsibility for teenager murdered by Syrian “refugee”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv_1MWpxE3E
Guy Macher says
This is what happens when the authorities eschew rationality.
Carol the 1st says
Marine Le Pen as “Miss Piggy”:
Lord of the Flies (10/11) Movie CLIP – Piggy is Killed (1990)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQCgzi4j3eM
Mitch Evans says
This can’t end well. If France and other European countries insist on continuing down this totalitarian path, this will devolve into the same excrement we saw in the 1930’s. There is no suitable replacement for liberty. If you are forcing the rational people to seek psychiatric therapy for their views, you are already down the totalitarian rat hole.
JimmyB says
Marine Le Pen; Request that the prosecution PROVE that Psychiatry and Psychology are valid sciences, and only then, after proving it, agree to it.
According to Dave Hunt, who researched it, the vast majority of Psychiatrists and Psychologists met in Phoenix Arizona many years ago, including the major founders of it, (after Freud and Jung,) and could not agree on much of anything. Of the 4 leaders in the field of Schizophrenia, 3 stated that it does not exist, and the fourth stated that it did not exist until someone invented the word. They can find an equal number of psychiatrists who would claim that a defendant is insane and should be found not guilty of a crime, while they can post the same amount of psychiatrists that would say the defendant is sane, and should be found guilty of all charges. They cannot agree on anything. Psychology and Psychiatry are the two biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the human race; they have absolutely nothing to offer humanity.
This is the realm of Primal Scream, and putting adults in diapers in an adult sized crib, and having them curse mommy and daddy for making them who they became. This is the realm of witch doctors and shamans, who, when comparing results with psychiatrists and psychologists, come out dead even, except the witch doctors and shamans charge less, and release their patients earlier.
IanB says
Both psychology and psychiatry are pseudo-sciences.
Wellington says
IanB: I am very sympathetic to your assessment. I remember what my favorite history professor said of psychology and that is that you major in it if you secretly hate yourself and I equally remember what my father, a surgeon, said of psychiatrists, to wit, that he had never met one that wasn’t at least somewhat “off their rocker.”
Peggy says
Interesting. Your father was more qualified to asses the state of mind of a psychiatrist than the people who actually have qualifications to do that.
So If I want help with a mental health issue I should see a surgeon and if I want my appendix taken out I should see a psychiatrist.
Can’t agree with that at all.
gravenimage says
Peggy, this is not what Wellington said. Please reread his comment.
Peggy says
gravenimage says
Sep 23, 2018 at 11:28 pm
Peggy, this is not what Wellington said. Please reread his comment.
======================
You’re right GI. Apologies to Wellington.
gravenimage says
Peggy, I do agree that those in distress can sometimes benefit from seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist–I have recommended it at times myself. There is a still a great deal that we do not know about the human psyche, though–and some psychiatric theories have been, to put it charitably, less than useful.
LytchZam says
Most psychologists and therapists and psychiatrists gravitated toward those careers because they were so enamored with the authority figures of their own therapy sessions.
Ren Ostertag says
+1 – Both are pseudo-science. In other words witchcraft that has nothing to do in the 21st century !!!
IanB says
This was a USSR tactic to intimidate and humiliate opponents of the regime.
There should be international protests over this ludicrous decision of this French court.
Latest – she’s refused.
gravenimage says
*Exactly*, Ian.
Roland Tours says
I hope that Ms. Le Pen is permitted under French law to appeal the decision!
Winston says
Non!
The European says
Telling the truth is insanity, telling despicable lies is mental soundness. Cultural marxists and leftist would be a laughing stock if the hadn’t the power to force their madness upon us. They try to change the world into the loony bin they once had escaped from, so that their own craziness goes unaware.
revereridesagain says
“1984” is here. 2+2=5 in France, where religious insanity is protected under the law and calling attention to the insanity results in accusations of insanity. France has indeed become the “EUSSR”, gulag and all.
Boycott France. No tourism. At the rate they are going there will soon be nothing to look at but Moroccan tent cities anyway.
Frank Anderson says
revere. . .do I remember the final answer to 2+2= “whatever you want it to be”?
I don’t know and can’t say about psychiatry or psychology in France. I would predict that US professionals would give her a clean bill of mental health and show if she fails in France that the examinations are rigged. There are a lot of honest, competent and worthy psy’s in the US in spite of the characteristics that motivated them into that field. They help a lot of people live better. Somewhere along the way Sigmund Freud wrote “Endeavoring to understand yourself is the ultimate form of aggression.” When we look in a mirror and try to understand ourselves, if can be frightening. So where does helping other people see themselves fall?
James Lincoln says
Frank,
You are correct. US professionals in psychiatry or psychology would undoubtedly give her a clean bill of health.
I am not able to find out through Internet searches whether or not Marine Le Pen will be able to choose her own health care professional or that process will be directed by the court.
It is indeed possible that the court will attempt to find a psychiatrist/psychologist who is sympathetic to their cause.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. If I in my sincerely low level of experience and expertise would ORDER my client to have her own examination in addition to any opposition imposed examination, I HOPE more experienced and competent lawyers would do the same. They cannot stop, at least in the US, the subject of an order for a physical or mental examination from obtaining another to challenge the results of that ordered.
Frank Anderson says
J.L., take a look at Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 35 regarding physical and mental examinations. France no doubt has its own under a different name and with different rules. The whole concept of due process demands that the person being examined has the opportunity to dispute the findings of an expert, who is merely an advisor to the court, and not the finally determiner of the issues. The presence of a contrary finding from a qualified source in the record would give the strongest and best argument on appeal. The refusal to admit the contrary report would hopefully get the judge removed and disbarred for obvious corruption.
Lavéritétriomphera says
It is the law, and under the normal procedure followed in such matters. the judicial expert must say if the accused was sane or not at the time of his offense, but do not worry Marine Le Pen has more than one trick up her sleeve.
Frank Anderson, complicity can be considered a crime in France.
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Lav, there are very few times in my practice that I would give a client an order instead of advice. That order would be to either follow my directions or find another lawyer. When someone chosen by the ENEMY, not the politely and gentlemanly “other side” is in a position to discredit both my client and me, I would not tolerate being unprepared to destroy the expert’s report and as much of the expert’s reputation as possible, IF necessary, .An examination and report at my direction is covered in the US as attorney work product and is not discoverable unless the attorney wishes or exceptions apply.
All the hogwash flowing where I am about litigation being conducted with courtesy and ethical, restrained behavior is for newspapers and public consumption. Litigation is a war and a bloodbath to the death. The pleas and ponderings of civility have nothing to do with the real world where the powerful protect the powerful against the truth at every opportunity.
When I wrote my first research paper while back in college for the third time studying accounting, I wrote that corruption rises to the top in any organization where it gets a hold. Each step starts with eliminating all those who will not play along, above, below, and to any side of the dirty person looking for enemies and allies. If you are interested, I believe you can find the paper on Lexis “When to Keep Silent”. It is possible that the paper may be found as part of the proceedings of the Securities Exchange Commission when they were considering a rule demanding that corporate lawyers commit professional and personal suicide when the management and directors were engaging in crime or fraud. Whether my paper had any influence or not, a less disastrous and different rule was adopted.
Frank Anderson says
An absolutely true war story: My client had a big tax problem. He hired a hot shot lawyer who passed up a chance to settle and got him hit with a claim about 10 times the settlement proposal, Then he came to me. I prepared a Chapter 13 petition which was to pay all the law required; but IRS wanted more. They hired a poorly qualified appraiser. I hired the best, totally qualified appraiser with the instructions, “Tell the truth at all times. Tell it clearly and in such a way if you are on the witness stand for a week you will never have anything to fear. I can deal with anything you need to say as long as it is the truth.” It took a year to get into a room where IRS’s lawyer and appraiser met with ours. By the time the meeting was over their appraiser was totally discredited and my appraiser’s numbers were accepted with trivial corrections. For subsequent cases IRS hired my appraiser. THAT is the kind of victory to be sought in any contest of experts. NO prisoners.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi Frank Anderson,
From my experience judges always follow rapports of psychiatrists. Nevertheless after the assessment report is presented to the judge, the defence can obviously present a second opinion.
Marine Le Pen is accused for having shown violent images that can be seen by children on the web.
However when I watch news on TV, some images that families can see are shocking, and journalists are not prosecuted.
For the latest news, Marine Le Pen will not undergo the psychological examination and many wellcome her decision.
Amitiès
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . .I certainly support her work and goals. In the US refusing a physical or mental examination under Fed Rule Civ Proc 35 could be fatal to an argument or case. It may be different, and probably is. I have explained my opinion and experience in confronting unfriendly experts in the US. She and those who are advising her certainly know more about French law and practice.
Anytime I have entered a case against a ruthless, powerful, unethical opponent, my continuing goal is to always look for a way to decapitate his case by catching his lawyer in a lie, or otherwise forcing the lawyer on the witness stand to testify against his own client. It works so well. Right behind that goal is to take any expert and be prepared to destroy his report and reputation, only if necessary. If the report is honest and accurate, attacking it would hurt or destroy my credibility. The only way for me to know if the opposing expert is producing a fair report is to obtain one of my own.
Under US law Federal Rule of Evidence 702, all the following notes and discussion, and a number of cases describe the limits and uses of experts. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 26 describes their use in the process of pleading and trial. I am certain that there are differences in French law and practice.
The examination could be an opportunity instead of an insult. My not knowing how a refusal to participate keeps me guessing what will happen. I do not see how a refusal can help her case, either at “trial” or on appeal. Am I correct at this stage the “judge” is also the prosecutor? If so, does the judge/prosecutor have any duty that corresponds to a US prosecutor’s to seek the truth and to find and disclose exculpatory evidence? I often mention Mike Nifong of North Carolina who massively failed in that duty and learned the hard way what happens. If you’re curious, search the name and read a number of articles. GRUESOME outcome. Best wishes and thanks for a pleasurable exchange.
Lavéritétriomphera says
HI Frank Anderson,
It is not the first time this has happened https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/30/marine-le-pen-charged-alleged-eu-funds-misuse/, and Marine Le Pen’s parliamentary immunity was waived.
I am not a lawyer, but I know we must obey the law in France, and she does not answer summons.
As I have said she has more than one string in her bow, and a section of the population is on her side.
She knows we are just fed up with this widespread policing and that Macron is not popular. He claimed we are alcoholics illiterates, that French culture does not exist. We felt insulted and Marine Le Pen did nothing of the sort.
Frank Anderson says
Lav, always to you Peace. From what I know about the situation from about 6,000 miles (9,000 kilometers) away I wish her well. She and her advisors know more about the law and practice there than I do, and are prepared to deal with it. Liberty Shall Triumph!
Frank
James Lincoln says
Frank,
Much thanks for the information and references.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. to me this is a good continuing legal education. It helps me as much as I hope it helps you and others. And I think it pleases the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus, Who makes all things possible.
Leon Degney says
Jean “It’s getting scary to live in “democratic countries.” you say. What is “democratic about most Western and European countries these days when the citizens are being dictated to by a bunch of left-wing ratbags. Look at the recent and pending treatment of Tommy Robinson to see just how democratic they are. How do we oust them? Of that, I’m not sure but there must be a method short of shooting them. The strange part is that anyone standing for election on an immigration control platform is almost sure of being well and truly beaten at the election despite what I see to be an overwhelming show of support for them before the elections. How can this be explained? Trump is the only one that has won in recent time and he campaigned on a platform of immigration control especially from Muslim countries. His success since has been thwarted somewhat by the loony left but he has had what could be considered a reasonable amount.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@The European
It is the law : “In accordance with article 706-47-1 of Code of Criminal Procedure a person charged with an offence listed in section 706-47, must be submitted to a medical expertise before any judgment on the merits”
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI000006577686&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006071154&dateTexte=20051213.
gravenimage says
“The law is an ass”.
Frank Anderson says
GI, is the quote, “The law is a fool and an ass”? That’s the way one of my mentor/professors remembered it.
Lavéritétriomphera says
The law is made for the many, and can be very unfair on a case-by-case basis
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . . Peace be with you. The book I could write on legal corruption and unfairness would rival in size many of the books I have read. The law as delivered by corrupt and dishonest people is unfair, which is why someone has to fight every step of the way to make it fair. “It’s not over until I win.” The law will never be fair without a fight.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Frank Anderson,
Que la paix soit avec toi, Peace upon you.
In a totalitarian system the law is made for a minority who unscrupulously breaks it and who oppresses the majority with a legal corpus that ignores case-by-case basis.
Sharia, gestapo, polit buro are just a few examples.
I have to say that I am not really worried for Marine Le Pen, she is a politician who is obviously capable of managing her own affairs.
Amitiés
Lavéritétriomphera says
Marine Le Pen is a lawyer and she knows the law. In such cases a medical expertise is required, and everyone is equal before the law. Anyway she refuses to undergo the medical examination.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I checked the quote and I believe you have it correctly. My mentor/professor/Father by Choice # 5 was in error. I still like his way better.
gravenimage says
Frank, it’s from Oliver Twist: “the law is a ass — a idiot”.
I’m quoting it a bit tongue-in-cheek here, since the speaker is not ultimately a commendable character.
It just seemed apropos here.
Frank Anderson says
We agree again!
gravenimage says
🙂
shoehorn says
Would she be charged with circulating “violent messages that incite terrorism or pornography or seriously harm human dignity” and that can be viewed by a minor if she tweeted an image of a decapitated person in Riyadh? Or a hanged homosexual in the *so-called* Islamic Republic of Iran?
gravenimage says
France: Marine Le Pen ordered to undergo psychiatric tests for posting photos critical of the Islamic State
………………….
Orwellian madness. What decent person *isn’t* critical of the Islamic State? How is this a sign of insanity? Does this mean that *supporting* the Islamic State crucifying children and using Infidel girls as sex slaves is now considered a sign of mental health by French authorities?
I hope Le Pen is able to fight this. If not, what’s next? France imprisoning critics of the horrors of Islam in mental hospitals?
Berengaria says
The French Government appears to follow the Old USSR Traditions, in destroying Its Political Enemies.
Marine Le Pen needs HELP of the Mental Variety to cleanse her mind of the Terror of Islam, so says the Dhimmi French Government.
This Tactic has already been proven to be of no worth, Islam Is Terror & Marine Le Pen has simply refreshed the Minds of the Gallic People.
The USSR Fell & I suspect that the Dhimmi Government of Macron will Fall, too.
Marine should Replace Macron, he is committed to the Destruction of France.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Is the court “capable of understanding remarks and answering questions”?
I have just two questions for the court:
First, what are we to make of the Qur’anic verse that describes non-Muslims as “the most vile of creatures”?
Second, whaat are we to make of Muhammad’s remark that “I have been made victorious through terror”?
Take as much time as you need. If you can’t understand these remarks nor answer questions about them, you’d better see…..well, you know.
gravenimage says
+1
Indiana Tom says
“In other countries this would have earned me a medal.
Not in most Western nations anymore.
Room 101 for you!
Warmac9999 says
It is quite obvious that the French government, as is the case with the uk, German and Swedish governments, is in a panic. They refuse to be held accountable for the barbarians in their midst and suppress anyone who would hold them accountable. And they will use and and all means.
StellaSaidSo says
It’s not the French government – they merely do what they’re told. It’s the EU globalists who are pulling the strings. They want to take Le Pen out of the race permanently, because they know that, had they played fair in 2017, she would have won.
vlparker says
We’ve seen this movie before. It doesn’t end well.
FYI says
Of course the Communists in the Soviet Union used to do the same.
The woman is perfectly sane:it is those who says she needs to undergo such tests that are in need of extensive psychiatric evaluation.Macron himself certainly needs help:the poor man is deluded into thinking that France still exists ..as a democracy!
LEFTARDISM IS A DISEASE.
On that note may i invite the magistrates in Nanterre to partake in an experiment I would like to conduct?It involves a neurological-neurosurgical analysis of the cognitively impaired LEFTARD brain which
appears to have a serious malfunction in the frontal lobe{similar to the cognitively dissonant islamic brain which has great difficulty understanding the concept of obeying a commandment of God…}.
It seems the Leftard brain is similar to the islamic brain:Cognitively dissonant,pro-totalitarian,easily duped etc.Clearly,the wiring is faulty.
I’m not a surgeon{….yet….} but I would be happy to carry out extensive Lobotomies for free on the Leftard-diseased to cure them of their tragic condition..
I can make a few phone calls..
And the entire Nanterre Magistrates court could avail of extensive psychiatric evaluation themselves once they are sectioned,drugged and taken into care..which it is obvious they need..so as not to be a danger to themselves or anothers.
LEFTARDISM………..LET’S STAMP IT OUT.
If you are a member of the Nanterre magistracy..please call me for a FREE consultation and
I’ll arrange your lobotomies.I have the surgical tools ready…..
Bacherbazistan says
Now here’s a Frenchman who really needs his head examined. Kouchner wants France to take in even more illegal immigrants. He was a foreign minister & head of MSF.
https://francais.rt.com/france/54039-pour-bernard-kouchner-france-devrait-prendre-plus-migrants-suivre-exemple-allemand
James Lincoln says
If Marine Le Pen is ultimately forced to undergo psychiatric testing for this “violation”, this is the beginning of the end of France.
The same fate awaits France whether or not she is found capable or incapable of “understanding remarks and answering questions”. Only her fate would be different.
She was calling out Islam for its atrocities, just like Tommy Robinson did.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. the psych professionals I know would find the judge and prosecutor insane and unfit.
James Lincoln says
Agree!
Frank Anderson says
J.L. are you old enough to remember when George Wallace, sitting Governor of Alabama, who after his totally staged and pre-arranged “Stand in the Schoolhouse Door” was ordered by a federal judge to submit to a psychiatric examination?. Wallace passed that examination with “flying colors” and used it for the remainder of his political career This can turn into not just a no-win, but a disaster for the judge, which pleases me..
James Lincoln says
Frank,
I was in grade school at the time, but I do remember the “Stand in the Schoolhouse Door” incident involving Alabama Gov. George Wallace.
Perhaps this ordered psychological/psychiatric exam ordered on Marine Le Pen could backfire miserably for the court. Let’s hope so.
Frank Anderson says
I was in high school and remember the story vividly. Wallace ran and lost on an integration platform in 1958 and was elected on a segregation platform in 1962.
He used the National Guard instead of State Troopers in his play at the University of Alabama, so that the Guard could be taken away from him with the stroke of a pen by the President, instead of having an armed confrontation between federal and state officers.
He also created a state department of education so that instead of having to fight civil rights cases against more than a hundred (?) individual school districts, only one had to be fought, making the federal takeover and school bussing the law of the land.
But ever after his mental examination he would crow that he was the only candidate with a certificate of his mental health and capacity. If he ran, he got elected—Not that being elected says much about the people who voted for him knowing all this. Some people are so dumb they will follow anything.
Billy Chickens says
This is an example of gaslighting by the leftist government.
David M says
She should walk into the examination with a Quran in hand. When the doctor starts asking her if she understands things clearly she should say “yes I do, do you understand the written word too?” Then she should launch into the violent verses of the Quran and ask the doctor if he/she understands the message the Quran is sending to all the Muslims.
Frank Anderson says
David, for what my opinion is worth, bringing the koran is not that bad an idea. The examiner may have never read one.
How she acts could make all the difference in the evaluation. This is a good time to be herself and shine, not put on any act as though she is trying to confuse or avoid the examination. Assuming the examination is recorded (I hope by video and audio) if the examiner does not produce a fair report it can be challenged by other examiners (by reviewing the recording and conducting their own examination). Arrogance and belligerence are really good ways to produce a negative report when a positive is needed to destroy the judge who ordered the exam.
Peggy says
Can she appeal against this?
I think she should disobey this order and maybe then people of France will see just how evil their government has become.
If she is willing to disobey and be jailed maybe it would start a revolt. I don’t really know what the best thing to do is but something drastic has to happen.
There is only one way to reverse al this and I’m afraid blood has to be spilled. There has to be a revolution because the state is more and more out of control and won’t stop unless stopped.
dan christensen says
Today you must say “Revive la France”.
Rufolino says
Of this atrocious tactic against Marine is upheld by the French authorities, it will have the most alarming implications for the political future.
David says
Who is guilty? The person who commits the crime, or the person who reports it?We can now clearly see which side the government is on in this whole unpleasant saga of Islamic invasion, as if we didn’t already know.
Frank Anderson says
David, under US law, which is probably different, anyone who “aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance” of a federal crime is equally guilty. It’s not one or the other. It is both who are guilty and should be tried. 18 United States Code Section 2. Australia may have similar law, if anyone will enforce it.
Frank Anderson says
PLEASE excuse my error. France may have similar law, but the way things are, and the Civil Law instead of the Common Law system, I wonder?
J.W.K. says
Typical of the unholy trinity: Macron, Merkel and May.
JOHN says
I can see this coming to my country as well. The despicable political scam of suggesting political opponents are in some way mentally ill began with the the hateful practice of ending some denigrating labels with the tag “Phobic” or “Phobia”. (I.e; “Homophobic” or “Islamophobic”.) In the brutal tradition of The Soviet Union or other totalitarian Socialist tyrannies of the past, it suggests that the offender has a mental problem when they reject Socialist policies and labels them as such so they may be easily dismissed and scorned. This is the logical next step, to actually accuse the opponents of suffering from some type of mental illness and portray their resistance as a neurosis that requires some sort of treatment. They know no one will have the courage to stand up to them and deny their “Big Lie” techniques. Consequently, their victims may soon be labeled as mentally ill and be forced to submit to psychiatric treatments against their will, as is now the case with Marine Le Pen. Do not say “The Old White Men” (As we are now ruefully labeled.) didn’t warn you a half a century ago.
Felix Quigley says
I have proved that the war on the masses of the people in Ireland is being carried out by the Irish Capitalist Class, in the case of the Bunting issue by the leading capitalist in Ireland, a woman called Wylie. This fact which I have pretty well proved was totally ignored by Gravenimage but this article is still relevant and will be relevant on this site until Gravenimage and many others on Jihadwatch, who are nothing more than seasoned liars, respond to it. It is on https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/sharia-northern-ireland-belfast-city-councillor-suspended-for-criticizing-islam#comment-1986742
gravenimage says
What claptrap–I didn’t ignore this from Felix Quigley; I debunked it. Anyone reading that thread can see for themselves.
He bases this absurd claim on Wylie having won a business award. Even if she had been a business woman, this would not have proven that “the war on the masses of the people in Ireland is being carried out by the Irish Capitalist Class”, of course (keep in mind that Felix Quigley is a Trotskyite, and wants to impose Communism on us all).
But the above is even more absurd than it sounds at first–Wylie is not a business woman; she does not work in the private sector at all. She received her award for delivering public services as unelected head of the Belfast City Council.
So, far from her being a member of the “Capitalist Class”, she is just another government appointee using public monies. There is nothing “Capitalist” about this at all.
alex Reid says
It’s now official….. THE LUNATICS ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM!!! The French must be kicking themselves…… the sh*tstorm is going to get worse, before it gets better.
Tom Steele says
I would be interested in seeing the result of the psychiatric exam. Nobody in their right mind would publish a photo of a decapitated man. That’s fear porn! Public decency and respect for any deceased person would tell a normal person not to do that.
gravenimage says
Are you serious?
That would be like saying that no decent person would ever expose the horrors of the Nazi death camps, because that would be “fear porn”. What crap.
TWG says
Right. It’s all part of the scheme…..
From the 1963 Congressional document “Communist Goals for America”:
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
In other words…… The Fix Is In.
gravenimage says
+1