When Macron prevails against the Visegrad group, and all of Europe is inundated with Muslim migrants, Macron will be hailed as a hero of the new, harmonious, diverse, multicultural Europe — won’t he? Or as Europe is engulfed in strife and European streets once again become bloody battlegrounds, as the warriors of jihad struggle for dominance, will the remaining free citizens of Europe curse Macron’s name as one of the chief enablers of the present chaos? Which scenario do you think is more likely?
“Macron Vows Punishment for States Refusing Third World Migration,” by Virginia Hale, Breitbart, September 21, 2018:
Emmanuel Macron has said funding should be withdrawn from pro-sovereignty nations reluctant to hand more power over to Brussels, and that countries which refuse to welcome third world migrants must be thrown out of the Schengen area.
“Europe is not a menu à la carte, it’s a political project,” the French president declared, speaking at the end of an EU mini-summit on migration in Salzburg Thursday evening.
At a press conference following the meeting of European leaders, Macron acknowledged there was “a crisis and tensions” over the topic but, crying out, “Who generates them?” the former investment banker launched a broadside at nations which reject asylum seekers and those which “refuse to let boats dock on its ports”.
Taking aim at the ex-communist Visegrad states, which are reluctant to follow the West down the road of globalist multiculturalism, he lashed out at “the leaders who tell me… ‘[I] love Europe when it gives me money, when it makes my people prosperous, when it allows my workers to make better a living in neighbouring countries,’ but at home, will not take a single migrant, not a single refugee.”
“Countries that do not want more Frontex or solidarity [in housing and feeding third world migrants] will leave Schengen. Countries that don’t want more Europe will no longer [get access to] structural funds,” he told journalists.
Turning the topic to EU Parliament elections, the banking protegé said next year’s vote would be “an historic fight [and] an election like no other”, as it would determine whether “the political project led by the founding fathers [of the union] … will prevail”….
Mac-101 says
What a disgustin Bankster Scum Globalist Puppet. Destroy Western Civilization for what? More money or to please Satan?
Mathew Thomas Hastings says
And they wonder why the government is in revolt against these people. You can’t have open borders and expect it to go well, these people are all morons.
Lydia Church says
He is the one who should be punished for letting them in and advocating for that!
Types like him are just a bunch of satanic bullies. He even shows up with the satanic star behind him making it look like he has devil’s horns. No surprise there.
Westman says
He will be punished, and France in general, when the tourist trade leaves France, Germany and goes to Poland, Hungary, etc, because it’s no longer safe in France or Germany. It’s just a matter of time.
Let’s hope the French keep their historic art safe because when there are enough Muslim fundamentalists they will try to destroy it or sell it out of the country. Macron is stupid to think Muslims will not begin “Forbidding” French culture to the French.
Frank Anderson says
Westman, what are your thoughts about the nuclear weapons in France and the UK? Talk about art?
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims will brutalize the native French, destroy French art and culture, and threaten their neighbors with nukes if they ever gain control there.
Frank Anderson says
GI from reading that may be too old to be current France not only has “the H-bomb” it has supersonic planes and cruise missiles, submarines with ballistic missiles and aircraft carrier or 2 to deliver them. As I recall they had about 400 bombs, enough to destroy the Soviet Union by themselves if necessary. The numbers and combinations have almost certainly changed.
At one time 84 percent of all electric power in France was generated by nuclear plants. France built breeder reactors to make more fuel than they consume and reprocess what we throw away as spent fuel. That reprocessing makes available large quantities of plutonium that can be used for bombs or fuel. I am mentioning this to compare with the US where “new que lar” engineer Jimmy Carter decided to forego breeder projects and fuel reprocessing in a futile gesture against nuclear weapons proliferation.
Westman says
I’m aware of France being a nuclear power with modern capabilities since the 1960’s, breeder reactors, and space launch facilities. And I remember when France refused flyover by US war planes there was a reason the US deferred. Freedom fries?
I mention art because it and language are the repositories of the nation’s culture and its link to the past. Without art, what is France? Islam intends to destroy the West from the inside, where nuclear weapons are useless, by joining with the Left in demonizing their own nations, undermining patriotism, and neutering moral standards.
Frank Anderson says
Westman, nuclear weapons are useless for muslims taking over France. But once muslims get control of those nuclear weapons where will they be aimed and used. If present trends continue, considering the level of ongoing collaboration and surrender, it is just a matter of time before those weapons are under the control of the invaders.
The white South Africans had nuclear weapons when they surrendered to the blacks. But they destroyed the weapons and program rather than leaving them to threaten others. Will the French? What about the UK which has nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines armed with US made Trident missiles carrying UK made nuclear warheads, and other delivery methods at hand?
Westman says
Frank, I think the cultural assets are just more vulnerable than the military assets.
The Brits usually wake up, belatedly, to reality and deal with enemies. I don’t think, as a group, Islam saturated minds are capable of much beyond physical force. There are, of course, many stellar minds in the lot yet overall, as a mix, they are swamped by the average. It was interesting to see that Iran, with help, couldn’t accomplish in dozen years what the Manhattan Project did in 3.
I have faith in the Brits. Like the US, they have generations that have never faced a war of survival and believe this is normal or are in some new era of world peace that will last forever if they just “get along” and force everyone to be PC. Brexit is already revealing the division between realists and globalists; raising some sleepy eyelids
Frank Anderson says
Westman, please consider the possibility that Iran has achieved its goal of having nuclear weapons years ago. We know they have 19,000 centrifuges. We know they are enriching uranium and have been for more than 10 years. Centrifuge enrichment is 10 times more efficient that gaseous diffusion and 100 times more efficient than mass spectrograph that the US used during WWII. These billions of dollars of machines are not running night and day consuming billions of dollars per year for entertainment or to produce electricity when natural gas is being flared. They are running to produce enriched uranium to be flown to North Korea for final enrichment and fabrication into bombs.
It takes according to the BOOK Fat Man and Little Boy, which I read while in high school over 50 years ago, a sphere of highly enriched uranium (HEU) the size of a softball, about 22 pounds or 10 kilograms, to make a simple, extremely reliable Little Boy, gun type bomb. Little Boy was so reliable it was never tested before being dropped on Hiroshima. Enriching uranium to 20 percent and then flying it to North Korea where they can complete the enrichment to 90 plus percent, would mean more or less 5 softballs, more or less 110 pounds, more or less 50 kilograms, to produce that crude design.
More efficient implosion designs starting with Fat Man need about half or less of the enriched uranium to make a bomb. I have been to the Atomic Bomb museum in Albuquerque NM. I have seen full scale models of bombs ranging from the size of a bus down to the size of a basketball. My best guess is that as little as 2 or 3 pounds of plutonium or perhaps 3 to 5 pounds of uranium is necessary to make a small atomic bomb that can serve as the trigger of a hydrogen bomb. There has been no reason for Iran to show its hand on having nuclear weapons.
North Korea and Iran have been close on nuclear weapons development without question in the public media reports. Iran representatives have been present for every bomb or missile test to assure that what NK knows and has Iran knows and is ready to build if it does not already have. Almost certainly in my mind from all the facts known, Iran has been paying North Korea to develop these weapons and take the heat off Iran. While the people of North Korea starve the Kim’s and their stooges live well. How else would they pay for it. Any deal with North Korea is as useless and deceptive as Hitler’s deal with Stalin to divide and eliminate Poland. It’s just a matter of time before it is shown to be a mockery as has every previous deal GIVEN to North Korea. We are being played for suckers again..
Back to the original issue of French nuclear weapons. Why would control of the nuclear weapons be any different from control of the rest of the entire French society with all the nuclear power plants and all the plutonium they produce, refine and make available each year. If muslims can take over the streets, the government, the courts, the police, the media, why not the military and all its weapons? And then what will they do with them? Paint them and put them on display as art? I don’t think so. The invaders want the bombs to help finish the job of world conquest See Why Israel Can’t Wait by Jerome Corsi, Ph.D. See also, The Apocalypse of Ahmadinejad. by Mark Hitchcock. See also, The Iran Threat by Alireza Jafarzadeh.
Westman says
Frank, I should have indicated, that, like you, I’m not certain if the French will pull together and keep control of their nation and its military assets. A new Waterloo may be in the making, with Macron’s assistance. One can only hope the citizens remove the elite leadership and restore common sense before the only answer is civil war.
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Westman and Frank.
And Westman, I share your especial fears about French art and culture–some of the greatest treasures of Western–nay, human–history, and among the most vulnerable.
You need civilization not just to create great art, but even to preserve it.
Frank Anderson says
GI, Wikipedia, not the “perfect” source, but worth considering, reports France tested nuclear bombs over 200 times and possesses approximately 300 deliverable nuclear warheads. It has according to that report 4 submarines armed with nuclear ballistic missiles, in addition to somewhere in the order of 60 bombs deliverable by aircraft. Who will control and fire these weapons? Where will they hit? How much culture and art will be left? Always with respect.
gravenimage says
Frank, the prospect of Muslims in power getting their hands on the nuclear arsenals in France of Britain–probably far more sophisticated than anything Pakistan has–is quite terrifying.
Frank Anderson says
Honored Treasured and Respected GI, please forgive my strident answer in agreement: “IT DAMNED WELL SHOULD BE TERRIFYING!” if you have read any or all of the books I mentioned in an earlier note, you will see that nuclear war is the goal of Shia islam to bring out the twelfth imam and the global caliphate. What good is art when we are blowing around as radioactive ashes? Always with most sincere best wishes.
gravenimage says
Frank, I actually consider art damned important–the same way I consider law important. But you are of course right–all of this is moot if we are all murdered by Muslims.
Frank Anderson says
GI art and science are important to people who are alive. Facing a criminal conspiracy masquerading as a religion of death demands focus on survival, and then the accessories. Substance over Form always.
gravenimage says
Frank, I agree–safeguarding science, art, freedom, and our very lives all involve defending against Muslims taking over here.
Susan Rob says
Why would anyone want to distort their country like he has with Gance. Stop this invasion of Europe. We will fight it in USA.
J D S says
There is plenty of stupidness in Islam but in France there seems to be some stupidity floating around near the top echelon.
Buraq says
Macron and his fascist left allies should wear ‘MECCA’ hats — Make Europe C-Crap Again! Clown!
Malcolm Jackson says
Henry Bolton, the candidate backed by Nigel Farage and Steve Crowther, basically calls UKIP members who do not support Islam, Nazis.
Ukip risks becoming ‘UK Nazi party’ if it selects wrong leader.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/sep/11/leadership-hopeful-warns-wrong-leader-could-turn-ukip-into-uks-nazi-party-henry-bolton
Frank Anderson says
M.J., are you familiar with how much Hitler and Himmler admired and endorsed islam? I have lost count of the alleged parties that follow that example. It seems to me that they are creating entirely false divisions to confuse and split the electorate, while they pursue the common agenda of taking the whole place into a totalitarian dictatorship. Germany had before Hitler 30 parties splitting the vote. “Divide and conquer.”
gravenimage says
+1
Hugh Fitzgerald says
“Countries that do not want more Frontex or solidarity [in housing and feeding third world migrants] will leave Schengen.’
For many sensible Europeans, that’s not a threat but a promises.
Frank Anderson says
H.F. Uncle Remus, Tar Baby, “Please don’t throw me in that briar patch!”
gravenimage says
Yep.
Frank Anderson says
It is just such a precious and applicable quote!
eduardo odraude says
The way things are going, Visegrad nations will over the next generation or two remain first world, while the increasingly Islamic Europe will descend to second or third world economic and cultural levels. It will then not be Visegrad nations that need assistance from the rest of Europe, but vice versa.
To develop further, the Visegrad nations do not need aid from the sinking ship that is the rest of Europe. Visegrad may be the last best hope for the continued existence of Europe as Europe, instead of as a colonized authoritarian extension of theocratic Arabia.
James Lincoln says
Eduardo, you are 100% correct about Visegrad.
Truly blood is on the hands of the Western Europe politicians, particularly Angela Merkel, who opened the floodgates to Muslim migrant thugs.
The future for Western Europe is spiraling crime and terrorist attacks.
The only truly safe havens in Europe will be V4 Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, and Slovakia – all adamantly refuse Muslim migrant EU quotas.
And Western Europe has the nerve to call the leaders of these V4 Visegrad countries racist, Islamaphobic, and far right nationalists.
Frank Anderson says
J.L., I wonder if there are any products from Visegrad which we could purchase and help their struggle? Any shift from other EU sources would be a “double whammy” by reducing what is spent in one place while increasing spending in the other. This is but one way to do more than cheer.
James Lincoln says
Frank,
You have a great idea- if there are products available for purchase from the Visegrad V4 countries, then the United States should give them support. I would certainly purchase their products. Perhaps President Trump can put together some sweet trade deals!
For now, I believe that they could be helped the most – by private individuals and their families – through tourism to their beautiful countries.
My next big vacation will be in central Europe: Visegrad V4 countries Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, and Slovakia. They are beautiful countries where you can enjoy old Europe without fear of Islamic terrorist attacks.
These four countries will also become, by far, the preferred tourist destinations in Europe.
Western Europe is rapidly losing its way.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. I wish I could follow your lead. I am retired at least 13 years earlier than planned, and have real trouble leaving town to go 40 or 50 miles. Ten years ago, several weekends each year I could drive a thousand miles each way to see my birth mother. She died; so the reason for the trip is gone. I can still “light candles” to support people struggling for liberty against evil and tyranny. It is better than doing nothing and feeling useless.
Mac-101 says
Good point. I believe these countries spend a greater % of GNP than the Germans and French on National Defense!
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Who would ever though that the Future of Europe would once again depend on the Poles? LOL!
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A list of products to Support is much better than a list to avoid. Nowadays almost ALL products come from a disagreeable Lib source!
gravenimage says
Sorry to hear about your mother, Frank. I just lost my mother-in-law a few weeks ago.
As for the Visegrad Group, I though this article might be of some interest:
“V4 stands together to attract investors”
http://www.visegradgroup.eu/about/v4-stands-together-to
I know some mutual funds have investment in certain regions–including the V4 nations.
Frank Anderson says
GI, she died about 8 years ago. We had 21 years to know each other. She had 21 years of freedom from an abusive marriage because of my telephone call. The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus is Great.
gravenimage says
Frank, so glad you were able to save your mother from an abusive marriage.
I was finally able to save my own mother from an abusive relationship; but it was very late in her life.
James Lincoln says
Frank,
I just saw your post. Sorry to hear about your mother. From your postings it sounds like she had a wonderful supporting son.
Also sounds like you’re being challenged by some significant health related issues. I’m sure that you are availing yourself to the best possible medical care, and, as a Christian, I will say a prayer.
Warm regards.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. my birth mother died about 8 years ago. The down side of having 8 Fathers by Choice and unnumbered Mothers by Choice is they have to die. The GOOD side is remembering them. She gave me life and gave me to an adopted family because she was not allowed to keep me. 18 months after I was born she was hit with polio and walked with difficulty the rest of her life. When the last member of the adopted family, my adopted mother, died, I was told, “We didn’t want you. We have our own families and problems. Move on.” I thanked them for telling the truth and moved on to find what I could about my birth mother.
In that process, which took a thousand mile 22 hour drive, 4 hours of questions and 2 hours to figure out what to say, I gave her the strength to tell her abusive husband, “NO MORE”. We had 21 years to know each other before she died. Then the birth family asked me to move on and I have.
I have absolutely great doctors, nurses and medical care. Thanks to Medicare, Blue Cross and good advice, I can pay my bills. There is still something good I can do. I’m always looking.
The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Jesus, not the god of evil, is Great and hears our prayers. Sometimes the answer is No. Sometimes the answer is Yes. Sometimes the answer is Wait. I say a lot of prayers both with words and action. I think they work.
gravenimage says
Frank, you have had a tough life, but seem to have maintained your principles throughout. Your now taking a stand against Jihad is part of that. Kudos to you.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I have had many great teachers, starting with my Fathers and Mothers by Choice and including several large bus loads of friends. I strongly believe based on what I have seen that there is a God who is present and helping me, even when I didn’t know it or want it. I believe there is still good for me to do. I believe God is for all who treasure joy, freedom and happiness, not just mine alone.
Naturally I could write another story; but it is still developing. It has to do with what I experienced when I was a dead carcass on the operating table over 10 years ago. Since then I have no fear of death.
Bacherbazistan says
Also avoid France as a tourist destination (I’m sure the jihad has badly damaged its tourist industry as it is) & consider boycotting French products e.g. wine & cheese.
It’s incredible that he’d expect the V4 to follow the disastrous example of France.
Vivez les V4!
Merde a Macron!
Rufolino says
I’m waiting for the rush by rich westerners to buy properties in eastern Europe. It won’t be long.
A_M_Swallow says
Macron has chosen to be a collaborator. No matter who wins he will receive a bad write up by historians.
Stefan cel Mare says
Macron is now scared. What will historians write.
Bacherbazistan says
Emperor Macronius is a Rothschild minion.
StellaSaidSo says
Spot on. He was SELECTED, not ELECTED.
Bev says
Stand your grand Visegard countries. Stand it until there is no one left to stand because if you don’t you will be destroyed by the globalists, elitists, and Islam.
Frank Anderson says
Bev, I wholeheartedly agree that resisting the invasion and conquest must be done. I ask you and all others, “What can you do to help in addition to sitting on the sidelines cheering.” It is easy to sit and watch a fight. It is hard to get in the ring and join the fight. Why should one person or country do all the fighting when everyone’s freedom, liberty and future is at stake? I have had such a fight that I handled alone for nearly 10 years until finally other people joined to help. Brave stands often fail, and are always painful and expensive.
gravenimage says
Frank, I know Merrill Lynch has mutual fund investing in these nations–often you don’t need much to invest. I’m sure there are many others.
Besides the ethical aspects, these countries appear to be doing quite well economically, and also seem pretty safe.
Stefan cel Mare says
Then also western companies should go out from East Europe.
Heidi says
Merkels lapdog Macron polls are on a steep decline in France and everywhere else. Next year we have elections for the European Parliament and I hope a lot of people have woken up by then to vote those idiots out of office.
Walter Sieruk says
This stated goal of Macron “To punish European nations that won’t accept mass Muslim immigration “ into their countries” Therefore , Macron has some gall to try to dictate to other countries their national polices which are in the interest of the safety of the citizens of those countries . Macron can’t even handle in any competent way the Muslim migrants in France, which many times case mayhem and sometimes engage in actions of Islamic terrorism. As in those vicious and deadly July 14 2016 jihad attacks in the city of Paris in which more than 200 people were murdered by violent and vicious jihad/Muslims .So who is Macron to say anything about policy of another European nation ? Macron must be either and incompetent fool or a traitorous villain. This is an incompetent fool that he had no regard for the lives and safety of the people of Europe .Macron may be traitorous villain to the values of Western civilization as well as to the security of the French citizen and the native citizen of other European nations In case it’s only a matter of time for some jihad –minded Muslim will engage in another murderous Islamic terror attack in one of some of the nations of Europe . That traitorous fool Macron with then be guilty of have innocent blood on his hands
For the Muslim who are also violent jihadist are action out in accord to Islam’s “holy book,” the Quran instructs in 9:111. , for example, “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain they kill and are killed.” Therefore, those who come out of those Quran based mind programming centers .mosque and madrasas, are so terribly harmed and damaged that they are literally, as it has be rightfully called, “dangerous to self and others.” This results in jihad suicide /homicide attack in which those jihadists who commit such murderous actions are so very deluded that they think of that jihad mass murders as “martyrdom operations.” This is Islamic delusion of the most heinous and malicious kind.
This may be, somewhat, explained by the narrative from the fable of Aesop which is entitled THE SCORPION AND THE FROG So “Once upon a time there was a scorpion who really wanted to get to the other side of the river, but he could not swim. Therefore, the scorpion begged a frog to carry him on his back across the river. The kind but foolish frog agreed and then half-way across the river the scorpion stung the frog. In shock and horror the dying frog asks the scorpion “Why did you sting me since this means that we both are going to die” The scorpion replied “The reason that I stung you even though we both will now die is because that just what a scorpion, by nature, does.”
In conclusion, just as that scorpion in the fable had proven himself by the dangerous and deadly, to self and others, because of his nature. The violent and murderous jihadists of Islam are as that scorpion, dangerous so self and other because they is their nature because they have been thought programmed in the ways of the violent and murdering jihad of Islam. As always stated above ,this is the sad and tragic reality of Islamic terrorism in today’s world.
Frank Anderson says
Walter, please consider a suggestion that I humbly intend to be polite and courteous. What you write is not any problem to me. My problem is that it is hard to read. Please consider more, shorter paragraphs. I rarely have any disagreement; but it is hard for me to wade through the long paragraph.
Frank
Walter Sieruk says
To Frank Anderson , thank you for your advise. In need to remember it.. Likewise I must not forget that just because i’m used to reading in my kind of writing it might find it hard reading.for others
Maybe this is because I’m over 60 and even though “it’s hard to teach old dogs new tricks” I’m still able to handle this change in keyboarding method
Frank Anderson says
Walter, thank you for not being offended. You have every right to enjoy the freedom to write as you wish. I too am well past 60. It is easier to read what is written if it is not blocked into such large groups. I wish you well.
Frank
Mac-101 says
This is the problem. It appears only us ole farts realize what is about to befall us and da young whippersnappers ain’t got NO clue what their future holds!
Frank Anderson says
Mac, I’ll guess at one time part of 101st Airborne, “If not now, when? If not me, who?” Respect and best wishes.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’ve noticed also that a large number of the people who comment here are over 60, perhaps the majority. Maybe that is because we older folks are now retired and have the time to think upon these matters while the younger ones are too busy struggling with the everyday matters of life. Jihad is a serious problem that is only going to get worse. The Muslim population is growing faster than the non-Muslim population. Our young people are going to face a bitter truth someday. It would be best if they faced up to it now and took precautionary actions. If they are out there not commenting, I hope they are listening in.
Frank Anderson says
C.E.S. I had the benefit of someone my present age when I was a lot younger. I think one of the greatest ways I can practice “Honor your father and mother” is to follow as best I can the examples of my 8 Fathers by Choice, and my numberless Mothers by Choice in passing on their wisdom and experience in addition to what I have learned along the way. There is no point in letting it die with me.
“Success has a thousand fathers; failure is an unwanted orphan.” I may not be a success because I count only 8 fathers; but I am not a failure because I am not an unwanted orphan.
Mac-101 says
Cognito, Also young people with a job can be fired for a perceived Politically Incorrect comment! We have gone that far down da tubes! I, of course preach to everyone I can corner, and here in Kentucky everyone I speak to knows the threat that both the Islamist and Globalist pose to our American Way of Life!
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Frank, yup 19 1/2 years in the 101st ABN (Air Assault).
Frank Anderson says
You know like I do in my own way that “Nobody appreciates peace like the people who have had to fight for it.” We have both had our life and death struggles. We can handle another.
Mac-101 says
Frank, You know the some battles can NOT be won, but ONE has to stand their ground and fight. Hopefully Eternal Life will await us who fight this Evil!
Frank Anderson says
Mac I fought a battle that I knew I could not win for more than 10 years. It cost me everything I had except my life and my law licenses. EVERYTHING. It was fight or give up and die. I was not going to let them win. They did not, Now I am still here making trouble and keeping a record exposing their corruption for all time. If I can, We can. Islam has been trying without success to conquer the world for 1400 years. Why have they not succeeded? Because enough people have said NO to stop them.
James Lincoln says
C.E.S.,
Yes, I am over 60…
It is likely that even most Jihad Watch readers, at one time, drank the Kool-Aid from the mainstream media. It takes time and thought to learn about Islam. It is also disconcerting.
I know, a few years ago when I was working 60 hour weeks, I had little time for independent research regarding Islam. At that time I also drank the mainstream media Kool-Aid.
I thought that I was relatively well-informed. Every day I read the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, two local newspapers, and watched the NBC evening news. Every week I would go to the library and read Barron’s, Time, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, etc., and watched Meet the Press. I thought that I was pretty well-informed, and I guess I was by the standards of the mainstream media.
The mainstream media made me believe that alternate news sources concerning Islam could not be fully trusted.
Following a semi-retirement, and during the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, I conducted about three years of fairly extensive research in regards to Islam.
What triggered my research were comments made by Dr. Ben Carson to Chuck Todd about Islam. Because I have such immense respect for Dr. Carson’s intelligence, I kept open mind about his comments and did some extensive independent research. I came to the startling conclusion that all of his comments regarding Islam were correct.
I will never again trust the mainstream media in regards to Islam. I also cannot thank evidence-based experts like Robert Spencer enough.
I will continue to seek the truth – no matter where it leads me.
Mac-101 says
Lincoln, good for you. You git an A for step 1. Now go to step 2 and figure out why the Elites are flooding Western Countries with Muslims. Everything has a reason.
gravenimage says
Walter, I sometimes have the same problem with your posts–a shame, because your comments are well worth reading.
And James, thanks for that background.
StellaSaidSo says
@Mac
Spot on re Step 2, Mac. Funny how being knowledgeable about Islam is highly commended by all JW posters, but being knowledgeable about NWO globalism makes one a ‘conspiracy theorist’ in the eyes of some ‘experts’ here.
Geoffrey Britain says
We all know that Western Europe is going to fall to Islam. Macron is a “useful idiot” front man and sacrificial “dead man walking”. The only question is whether the jihadists get to him first or whether those non-existent native French have that honor.
As for the Visegrad nations, at some point they will face the choice of falling to Islam or ‘voluntarily’ joining Putin’s Russian Federation…
Bachebazistan says
Western Europe will never fall to islam. We all need to pray very much that west Europe will be saved. Catholics – pray the rosary every day & remember Our Lady of Victories. Pray also for persecuted Christians in islamic countries.
KWJ says
It’s not looking that way and praying won’t help. You also have a Catholic Popr who is all for this. It takes action, not prayer. The Pope is going action and action is needed to repel this scourge. A lot of dead people prayed. Sorry to sound harsh, but the Catholic Church isn’t even on your side!
Bacherbazistan says
Don’t despair, prayer always helps. It may inspire the right action. Catholic church is going through a major purgation which may lead to changes in senior leadership.
gravenimage says
Don’t preach surrender. There *are* those who are starting to wake up to the Jihad treat.
StellaSaidSo says
Who is ‘preaching surrender’? Anyone who knows anything about demography knows that Europe is doomed if a drastic change in direction does not occur as a matter of urgency. It isn’t enough to be awake to ‘the jihad threat’. The ‘jihad threat’ is only part of the catastrophe confronting us. The fatwa against the West comes largely from within the West itself. The Muslim hordes are merely a weapon deployed to facilitate the implementation of a long-planned, diabolical, agenda.
gravenimage says
Saying that “We all know that Western Europe is going to fall to Islam” is indeed preaching surrender. Things are dire there, but this is *not* a fait accompli.
StellaSaidSo says
The demographers predict that Western Europe will ‘fall to Islam’ within 2 generations. To acknowledge reality is not to preach surrender, it is to face facts. Only when we recognise the nature and severity of the problem can we take the necessary steps to fix it.
Frank Anderson says
Stella and GI, please remember the first step in any problem solving is to accept there is a problem to solve.
Frank Anderson says
Stella and GI, there could be an important issue missed at the moment:
Demographers may depend on reaching an electoral majority in an honest system before they say control is taken. An honest electoral system and law enforcement system appear to be a highly dubious expectation and dangerous assumption right now. Remember the Communists expected the Nazis to fail, and “Then it would be their turn.” (Spoken by the son of one of the leaders of the 1919 Red Republic). “But then Hitler changes the rules!”
How many times in the 20th Century have murderous minorities taken and held control of countries with on the order of 5 percent of the population for decades, and even to this day?
Please consider?
gravenimage says
Stella, to acknowledge a threat can indeed spur men to action; to state it as inevitable does not.
It looked as though all of Europe was going to fall to the Nazis in 1940. I’m so grateful that Churchill did not consider Hitler unstoppable.
Erl says
interestingly enough Hitler did not want war with Britain and put out numerous pease proposals but were ignored… It Hitler had a real hostility toward Britain none would have got off the beach at Dunkirk . Further more if all the brave soldiers that went back to Normandy to take back Europe from the control of the Nazi regime would not have bothered to get off the the landing craft on to the beach if they knew what Britain , France and a number of other countries had allowed the invasion of people that only have contempt for our Judeo /Christian culture and way of life? who would you want to live under ? you want Sharia law or classical christian culture European be it German , french or British?
gravenimage says
Frank, you are quite right that it does not necessarily require a majority to take over–especially if the minority is violent and relentless.
Uganda is a majority-Christian country, but Muslim Idi Amin seized power and wrecked bloody havoc there for almost a decade. I worked with one of the Christians whose family had had to flee when I was at University.
Frank Anderson says
GI, please think about all the examples you can where murderous minorities took and held control starting with Russia (1917) and Germany (1933) and follow through the 20th Century. We do not have “2 generations” before control is TAKEN by evil and its collaborators. Sorry to beat the “delusion of reprieve” in the ground; but it is so important and applicable right now.
StellaSaidSo says
Frank and gravenimage
Clearly you both have a limited understanding of demographic projection. In my Sept 24, 1:08am, I stated:
‘The demographers predict that Europe will fall to Islam within 2 generations’.
This projection is based on a simple calculation based on comparative breeding rates. Nothing to do with elections. Yet.
I also said that unless we do something decisive soon, this is the future we face – ie, it is not inevitable if we take the action that needs to be taken.
Frank Anderson says
Stella, Of my 22 years of education, most of the college and graduate work is math related. I do understand demographics well enough to know that populations can change in composition and therefore expected and reasonably predictable voting patterns, I think what you miss is that before those statistically predictable voting patterns change, a murderous minority can take over, influencing elections and making voting useless and obsolete. It has happened many times in history. I think it is fair, looking at the level of invasion and open collaboration to expect the loss of freedom much sooner than 2 generations, or more or less 40 years. There is no time to waste in arguing for any of us.
Thinking that elections will be essentially free of fraud and intimidation long enough for 2 generations is in my opinion erroneous and probably delusional wishful thinking. I am supporting your argument, only recognizing that it will take far less, not more, time than you propose from your sources. I am “sticking my nose” into an argument between two people I consider Friends because I believe there are important facts that are not being considered.
The total population of Jews worldwide is 16,000,000 (That’s right 16 Million compared to more or less 1.6 Billion each muslims and Christians) and declining. 1 out of 3 marriages involving Jews is to a non-Jew; and in half of those the Jewish partner converts out. Jews are not having children fast enough to maintain their number and will demographically decline while other demographic populations explode. That is not good news to me a sincere supporter of that community. Please know of my intended friendship and desire to resolve this argument so we can move on to more productive and helpful inquiry.
gravenimage says
Of course I understand demographics.
Here is the Gatestone Institute with an alarming article which I have cited several times here:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11539/europe-muslim-majority
But, again, I do not believe that we should bow to the idea of a Muslim majority as inevitable–especially if we stop Muslims from flooding in, and begin deporting, beginning with the worst Jihadists.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
Funny how you ‘understand demographics’ now, but you missed the point earlier. You also seem to have missed the point that I never claimed that such a gloomy future is inevitable – despite my having stated this several times.
gravenimage says
I see the vile Erl is another thug claiming that poor old Adolf had no option but murdering millions and committing genocide against the Jews, because the mean old English and French forced him to do it.
Try again, creep.
gravenimage says
Stella, my addressing other points in some of my posts does not mean that I do not understand demographics.
And while it is good that you do not consider the fall of Western Europe to be inevitable, Geoffrey Britain certainly seems to–it was his post that I was initially replying to.
Halal Bacon says
what this tool does not understand is that the left eat their own, he will be left to rot in the dust bin of history
Stefan cel Mare says
Who cares about history?
Wellington says
To call Macron a fool would be a gross understatement. My God, Muslims are mandated to conquer all the earth in the name of their intolerant, putrid, control-freak religion and offer all non-Muslims three choices: 1) convert to Islam; 2) be a pure second-class citizen in relation to Muslims, replete with the effing jizya payment; or 3) death.
Most every non-Muslim adult should know this about Islam by now. The excuses for not knowing this ran out long ago. Shame, profound shame, on Macron and other Western leaders who remain willfully blind to truths about Islam that are quite easy to find out. The harm they are doing to Western Civilization is not only incalculable, it may also be irreversible. Damn them.
Stefan cel Mare says
And they will conquer the west. The west have no reaction while Islam is like a constrictor snake. The snake got the victim and now start to squeeze. The west is just before last screams of pain and soon will die. In the end, if you can’t defend yourself, then it is logic that you will die and somebody else will take all you have. Including your wife and your daughter.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, indeed, Wellington. Do you see in the picture above how Macron has his fist raised as if to fight? Well, he had better love fighting because if he wants to live in a France filled with Muslims that is all he is ever going to be doing, fighting. Allah has ordained for the Muslims that they fight until all others have submitted to Islam, the religion of Submission. Bringing Muslims into your country is to turn it into an arena that will be left every bit as blood soaked as the grounds of the Colosseum of ancient Rome.
KWJ says
They are not blind, they know all about Islam. By now you should realize that this isn’t incompetence! This is a long time in the making. They are just bad people who have taken it upon themselves to change their countries without explaining it and why to the people. They are not stupid, they know how Islamic countries work, they know what Churchill and others said, scholars, etc. They don’t care what you think.
Economics is what matters and if their plans will work or be a catastrophe. I’m thinking the latter and a bureaucratic nightmare and a lot of unhappy people no matter how many they kill off.
Frank Anderson says
KWJ to a true socialist, example George Bernard Shaw, killing all inconvenient individuals is a matter of right to the state. Hitler did not originate the idea. Hitler killed more or less 10,000,000 inconvenient people, Jews, misfits, disabled, war prisoners. Stalin killed more or less 50,000,000 and had death quotas for his divisional governors to fill arbitrarily or die. Mao killed more or less 100,000,000. The Kim’s? The Castro’s? Pol Pot? Vietnam more or less 2,000,000 after 1975. Islam between 300,000,,000 and 1,000,000,000 human beings in 1400 years, between 1 and 4 human beings dead every 3 minutes for 1400 years.
Totalitarians don’t care about killing. They take great pleasure in killing their own. Look at the purges under Stalin and Saddam. Life and liberty are valueless and meaningless concepts to those who are doing their best to take them away from us. Please watch Logan’s Run for what I suggest is a great illustration of socialist/totalitarian indifference.
gravenimage says
Yes–all totalitarians are hideous.
Bacherbazistan says
KWJ, and don’t forget the Kalergi Plan. Everyone should know about this.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Wellington
Macron and his fellow ‘Western leaders’ are well aware of the harm they are doing to Western Civilisation, Wellington. It is all part of their diabolical plan.
The excuses for not knowing about NWO globalism ran out long ago.
Wellington says
No, Stella, I don’t think they are “well aware of the harm they are doing.” I do believe it probably dawns on them at times that they may not be as correct about matters as they think they are, but they keep these private doubts to themselves and then go back to telling themselves that they really are on the right track and those opposing something like Muslim immigration are just bigots. Once again, I see willful ignorance, foolishness, arrogance, pc/mc, and sometimes just plain stupidity (that “special” kind of stupidity that the well educated and influential are often capable of) as the reasons for why so many Western leaders are doing what they are.
As for the NWO, while I certainly see an unacceptable concentration of power by various governments in the West, including here in America where I think the term “Deep State” is an accurate term to describe such an abuse of power, this does not translate for me into some vast world conspiracy to end nation states and have a one-world government under the UN, something usually associated with NWO “thinking.” There are many elements to NWOthink, for instance take the Bilderberg Group. Now, this group has been denounced in the past by both Fidel Castro and the John Birch Society. Well, when Castro, now dead of course, and the John Birch Society are in agreement on something, especially on some kind of conspiracy, this should serve as a red light that the something they have agreed upon is bogus.
Most conspiracy theories are evidence of junk thinking (e.g., all the JFK conspiracies), but every once in a while a conspiracy does occur. It certainly was a conspiracy that caused 9/11, orchestrated by a number of barbaric Muslims. Of course, where your thinking and my thinking begin to merge is that while you see some vast conspiracy and I don’t, the effects either way are often the same, whether due to conspiracy or just plain old massive foolhardiness.
Frank Anderson says
Wellington, “Deliberate ignorance constitutes knowledge of the truth.” Wyle v. R. J. Reynolds, 709 F.2d 585 (9th Cir. 1983). You are a lawyer who can read and understand the case as well as I can. These traitors know what they are doing. It doesn’t matter that they don’t know or intend every detail. Please read United States v. Gary Greenough, 609 F. Supp 1090 (S.D. Ala. 1985). Notice particularly the discussion of conspiracy on pages 1093-94. Excusing their treacherous betrayal of fiduciary duties only lets them stay in power longer. Best wishes. Please read the cases.
Wellington says
Frank: Thanks for those references and I will certainly read them. But I must ask you if you are of the conviction that lesser folks like Macron, May and Merkel actually consciously want the destruction of Western Civilization and are part of a world-wide vast conspiracy per NewWorldOrderthink? I ask this of you because this is exactly what people like Stella believe.
And is there only “deliberate ignorance” which “constitutes knowledge of the truth” and just ignorance? Nothing in between? BTW, I am assuming here that the terms “deliberate ignorance” and “willful ignorance” are essentially synonymous. So, Bush 43 or Macron or Pope Francis or Merkel, et al. are only either ignorant or complicit?
Also, doesn’t it bother you that those who are into some kind of New World Order stuff see so many conspiracies elsewhere (the example I proffer once again are all of the JFK assassination conspiracies)? Just wondering.
Frank Anderson says
Wellington, in ALL respect and friendship, you are a lawyer. If you are a lawyer who graduated from an ABA accredited program, you spent the first semester of your second year (Junior) in a class called Agency and Partnership for about 3 semester hours. The second semester of the same year you spent the same 3 hours studying Corporations. The term Fiduciary Duty appeared frequently. If they don’t know they have a DUTY to find out. Our lives and liberty are no more theirs to waste or mishandle than is our money.
Under the clear, well established law of conspiracy, which is merely collected and summarized in the excellent Greenough case, it does not matter if they don’t know all the details. It doesn’t matter when they join. It only matters that they wish to further the goals of the conspiracy, both known and unknown to them. Gary Greenough was convicted and his conviction was upheld on appeal. United States v. Greenough, 782 F,2d 1556 (5th Cir. 1986), please note page 1559 in the opinion.
gravenimage says
True, Wellington. I know a lot of otherwise very intelligent people in deep denial–willful ignorance–over the Jihad threat. Most of these are basically good people, though, who are certainly not cynically plotting the oppression and murder of their neighbors.
This is, in fact, generally a good thing. Most people were slow to recognize the threat of Fascism eighty years ago, as well–and for many of the same reasons we face today with Islam. But since most in the West were essentially decent, they *did* eventually wake up.
Just as Churchill and others worked to educate the reluctant then, Anti-Jihadists are working to do the same re Islam now.
StellaSaidSo says
@Wellington
The facts don’t care about what you, in your ignorance, ‘think’ about NWO globalism. Or anything else, for that matter. The more you deny what the rest of the world is rapidly waking up to, the sillier you will look. And, given that you believe the Warren Commission on the JFK assassination, you look pretty damn silly already.
gravenimage says
Stella has never said what the supposed facts are re the JFK assassination and 9/11–just that people who don’t agree with her are “damn silly” or worse.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
Oh dear, we are getting our knickers in a twist, aren’t we?
As I have said before: unlike some here, I don’t give a toss whether anyone agrees with me or not. But I’ll always give credit for a sound argument. Sadly for old Biffo, the Warren Commission report is not a sound argument. Ballistics tests repeatedly show that bullets don’t do U-turns.
gravenimage says
The Warren Commission, of course, never claims that bullets make u-turns.
gravenimage says
And no–believing in the importance of truth does not mean one is “getting our knickers in a twist”.
If we don’t believe that 9/11 was Jihad, but was done by some unnamed people on the ground, then we will never be able to defend ourselves.
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
You still don’t get it. Let me explain:
The Warren Commission concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK.
Lee Harvey Oswald was located in a building BEHIND the motorcade.
The fatal shot was fired from in FRONT of the motorcade.
THEREFORE, Lee Harvey Oswald did NOT kill JFK.
UNLESS bullets can do U-turns.
Got it?
FURTHERMORE:
I have never claimed that 9/11 was not jihad. For the umpteenth time, my position on 9/11 is that it is not possible that one man in a cave in Afghanistan to have pulled off such a huge project without some assistance at the local level.
Apparently, this is a knicker-twisting idea for you.
Frank Anderson says
Stella, I went to Dallas about 15 years ago for a lawyer-friend to argue a bankruptcy matter. I had enough time to walk around the scene and up to the location Oswald is supposed to have taken for his shots. The distances to the street where the President was shot were so short that I could have made those shots with a handgun. An honored friend who is no longer living and I did a lot of target shooting with handguns at the same distances. So with a rifle, the shooting becomes almost trivial except for the stress.
The 3 shots required 2 operations of the bolt between them. I have handled many bolt action rifles and do not think it would be any stunning achievement to make those shots in the time suggested from all the recordings and tests. I suggest that exit wounds can be confused with entry wounds, as happened in the course of the “witness” lies told at Ferguson Missouri in the Michael Brown case.
StellaSaidSo says
Frank, the Zapruder film clearly shows that Kennedy was struck from the front, a shot which blew out most of the back of his head. There was no confusion about which was the entry and which was the exit wound, despite what the corrupt Warren Commission would have us believe. Oswald was a patsy. Indeed, there is some doubt as to whether he fired a shot at all.
Frank Anderson says
Stella, I do not believe the Warren Commission Report. However many shooters were involved the motorcade was re-routed for reasons that make me wonder, The complete, true story has not been told. I write what I saw, and what I have done in more than 60 years of shooting. My official adopted Father knew he had a short time to live and taught me how to shoot and drive before I was 5 years old. He died before I was 9.
But with the intentions and respect of a Friend, can we please stop fighting among ourselves about issues that have little to do with our purpose and focus on resisting and prevailing over the ongoing invasion?
Have you been reading my notes long enough to remember the question given to me by a lawyer friend of a lawyer friend, who also represented a nationally known actor and Presidential candidate? He drove from Knoxville to Nashville to talk with us. “Does this action put money in my pocket or take it out?” I politely ask the same question applying to issues today. Does this argument contribute or take away from the progress of the cause of freedom?
StellaSaidSo says
Frank, I agree that the full story of the Kennedy assassination is yet to be told. My guess is that a great deal of new evidence will emerge following the death of GHW Bush and others connected to the event. I hope I shall live long enough to peruse this new information!
Any argument which advances the cause of truth deserves to be heard, whether gravenimage agrees with it or not.
Frank Anderson says
Stella, in friendship and feeble humor. We have lived now 55 years almost without the truth or whole story being told. The story may outlive us. But we have made it this far without knowing and can make it further.
US Marine icon, General Lewis B. Puller aka Chesty was asked about being surrounded at the Chosin reservoir in North Korea. (paraphrased) “The nice thing about being surrounded is that you have so many targets in all directions, you can shoot anywhere and kill something that needs it!” I read Marine, The Life of Chesty Puller, when I was in military school. We are surrounded by threats and collaborators. We need to take care of our comrades who are shooting at the people who are shooting at us. Puller and many of his Marines made it out by working together.
Wellington says
Stella: JFK was not shot from the front. This is flat out wrong. Ludicrously so. No serious ballistic expert has asserted this. If you would bother to read Case Closed, cover to cover, Gerald Posner will explain in detail that the three bullets fired by Oswald were the only bullets fired that day.
The first missed completely because it hit a twig of a tree (this bullet was never recovered though it did chip a portion of cement from a sidewalk and this chip cut a man’s cheek), the second bullet is the one that hit both the President and the Governor (which bullet was recovered almost in tact at the Parkland Hospital on the gurney which brought the Governor in), and the third bullet was the devastating one that tore out some 70% of the right side of JFK’s brain (about 3/8 of this bullet was recovered in the Lincoln limousine that the President and Governor were riding in).
Oswald used a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle he had purchased earlier in 1963 and with said rifle had tried to kill retired General Edwin Walker (because Walker was a vehement anti-Communist who was so political while in the military that JFK had to dismiss him; of course Oswald was a gung-ho Communist though after living in the USSR for about three years he developed the conviction that the Russians had betrayed pure Marxism and then he began to focus his admiration on Castro) in April but because the bullet Oswald fired hit the horizontal part of the window pane it veered slightly and went through Walker’s hair and left him unharmed. The 6.5mm bullets used by Oswald on that fateful day in November of 1963 could bring down an elephant. Oswald, a total loser to be sure, was nonetheless an excellent marksman. He had achieved the second-highest ranking for marksmanship while in the Marine Corps and any Marine is an above average shot to begin with. Moreover, Oswald had more than enough time to fire those three bullets. The Warren Commission concluded that a minimum of 4.5 seconds would have been needed (since taken down to 4.1) and Oswald had over 8 seconds to do his firing. He also left one cartridge in the gun he stored behind some boxes on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository which gun was found later on the day of the assassination.
As I have written to you before NO serious historian thinks there was a conspiracy to kill JFK (doubt me?—then name one, I dare you). This is the stuff of folks who have too much time on their hands. Posner demolishes the major conspiracy theories quite effectively and shows that while the Warren Commission got the basic conclusion correct, i.e., that Oswald alone killed the President, the Commission nonetheless made some mistakes which Posner discusses. Posner also goes into the life of Jack Ruby and other matters. It is an exhaustive study of the assassination and demonstrates conclusively, as the historian Stephen Ambrose and the journalist Tom Wicker stated, that Oswald acted alone, that there was no conspiracy.
Now, notice that I have gone into some detail to prove my contention here. You, by contrast, state things with little to no-back-up, whether it is about the JFK assassination, 9/11 (where you go on about some controlled demolition with no facts while at the same time saying that the Popular Mechanics article that demonstrates why the buildings that came down did so because of the two planes involved has been debunked, but you don’t mention who has debunked this very convincing article that puts to rest for all but conspiracy buffs that there was no controlled demolition or anything else along these lines).
Finally, I have noticed that you have insulted gravenimage many times over and I will tell you plainly that I find her far more competent and reasoned than you. In fact, your very moniker here at JW kinda’ gives away your inflexibility and rigid thinking, i.e., not just “Stella” but “StellaSaidSo.” And for God’s sake, read Case Closed will ya’.
gravenimage says
Stella, that “one man in a cave in Afghanistan” was actually a wealthy Saudi civil engineer with international ties–he was not some shepherd.
And you have never said who those assisting “at the local level” may have been–local Muslims? Or Infidels? The most commonly put forward are George Bush, Mossad, Larry Silverstein, the entire American Jewish community, the Illuminati, the Masons, and Opus Dei. Or perhaps you have someone else in mind?
StellaSaidSo says
Wellington,
I have read ‘Case Closed’. The first laugh is the title itself. The case is far from closed, as everybody who has read a fraction of the literature on the subject knows. Indeed, more information has recently become available. I could take Posner’s tome apart, chapter by chapter, but the inaccuracies are too numerous to mention and they have, in any case, been addressed by others.
It is now generally accepted that there were at least 5 bullets fired at Kennedy, and the fatal shot came from the front – as the Zapruder film showed, and eyewitness testimony reported. None of the shots were fired by Oswald. The Kennedy family never believed the official story, but had very good reasons not to challenge it.
Regarding 9/11, I can support what few claims I made with evidence that is freely available to anyone interested enough to get off their arse and find it themselves. The idea that, 17 years later, anyone takes the ‘Popular Mechanics’ article seriously, is hilarious. All three buildings came down in freefall, but only two were hit by planes. Explain that, Biffo. Bet you can’t. But members of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth can.
I note that you still labour under the illusion that ad hominem attacks are a valid substitute for a sound argument. Pathetic.
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
To accommodate your manifest comprehension difficulties, I will make some editorial adjustments to my oft-stated position re 9/11, in the hope that you will FINALLY get the message:
IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT EVEN THE MOST FRIGHTFULLY CLEVER AND IMMENSELY WEALTHY SAUDI ENGINEER, WHETHER IN A CAVE IN AFGHANISTAN OR A PALACE IN RIYADH, COULD PULL OFF A PROJECT THE SIZE OF 9/11 ENTIRELY WITHOUT ASSISTANCE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
As to the identity of those who provided assistance, there appear to be a number of suspects. As yet, however, I have formed no definite conclusions – which is why I have ‘never said’. What I HAVE said – and more than once – is that I DON’T KNOW. You seem to have trouble accepting this.
I suggest that you do some research of your own on 9/11. And look up GLOBALISM while you’re at it. You have quite a lot of catching up to do.
gravenimage says
No, there is no credible evidence that that 9/11 was actually plotted on the ground in America.
And 9/11 itself involved the hijacking of four airplanes–certainly coordinated, but not something that needed involved assistance on the ground.
The truth is that open civilizations are vulnerable to attack, because open societies by definition are not armed camps.
Four hijacked airplanes fully loaded with fuel can do a lot a damage if driven into buildings, especially civilian buildings, as the WTC was. The carnage would have been even worse if not for the bravery of the passengers on United Flight 93.
Wellington says
I don’t believe you that you have read Case Closed in its entirety. I just don’t. And your statement that it is generally accepted that at least five bullets were fired reveals again that you make assertions WITH NO BACKUP. Generally accepted by whom, Stella? Names and sources please.
Frankly, Stella, I find you a loon and that’s a shame because you do understand what Islam intends for us all but the conspiracy world you live in only damages the case against Islam.
You won’t get this, but I felt I needed to state that you won’t get this. Now, go back to your conspiracy bubble world—NWO, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, JFK assassination theories, et al.
My God, are you pathetic, but what really bothers me is that people like you harm the legitimate and necessary effort to thwart the worst religion of all time from continuing to do damage to us all. Yes, in the final analysis, you are a negative in this most important of fights we are involved in. And you will not comprehend this in the least.
11B40 says
Greetings:
Unfortunately for you readers, France’s President Macron has become a bit of a rhetorical punching bag for me and, as I still get some of my TV news from the France24 English-language broadcasts, I come across a thing or two that others rarely do.
A while back, France24 was trumpeting M. le Président as the “Trump Whisperer” ahead of his historical and unprecedented three-day visit to President Trump’s white House. He would be putting all his Gallic charm and suasion to use to bring our President into the warm embrace of the Euro-borg. Alas, reality failed to deliver the fantasy and Macron scurried back to where he thinks he belongs (soon to be followed by Chancellor Merkel).
This week, the France24 people reported on Macron’s meeting with the PLO’s Abbas. The intrepid reporters indicated that Macron would be carrying Abbas’s message across the Atlantic in the near future with, no doubt, very similar results.
As to the state of the Euro-borg, well, my take goes like this (with apologies to G. Orwell): The Euro-borg has always been at war with its East and those Mediterraneans in the South, well what can be done with them, and in their West, some slip-sliding away seems to be going on.
Bon Chance, mon ami !!!
Paul says
Dude is not exactly Charles Martell.
Plus, he wears makeup
James Lincoln says
An very important related video – just released – regarding the Muslim migrant crisis…
Dominik Tarczynski is absolutely brilliant Polish MP for the Law and Justice Party, which is currently the country’s ruling party! I have watched all of his “English-speaking” YouTube videos from the past couple of years. He is absolutely “spot-on” in his analysis of the Muslim migrant crisis. Because of him, I cannot bring myself to tell another Polish joke.
Jihad Watch readers/posters, I would advise all to take the time and watch his most recent video, interviewed by Katie Hopkins on Rebel Media:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvaJBXeiyrk
Frank Anderson says
J.L, “How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb?”
1) How many can you afford?
2) None, they don’t know how and would have to hire experts.
Wellington says
To James and Frank respectively. I am half Polish myself and only in America have Polish jokes been told. I attribute this to Poles coming rather late to America, from the end of the nineteenth century onwards, as did both of my maternal grandparents around 1903, and thus they, like certain others (other examples being Italians and Irish {though the Irish came a bit earlier because of the potato famine of the 1840’s}) got the lower end jobs at first and were definitely not of the Anglo-Saxon element (though I wish to make clear here that White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, WASPS, did far more good than harm for the cause of liberty when things are considered overall). Thus, jokes about Italians, Poles, Irish, et al. here in America. In Europe, however, Poles are considered quite highly. My God, even the French have traditionally liked the Poles and the French really don’t like anyone, even themselves. As I understand it, the butt of jokes in Europe are the Belgians.
As for lawyer jokes, being one myself I enjoy most of them. My favorite, because it goes to the heart of how lawyers think, and I really do believe you will appreciate this, Frank, is about the lawyer who went fishing with the Pope (let’s make the Pope pre-Francis since the current pontifex maximus is a fool) and while out in the middle of a big lake they rowed to, having a good time chatting and catching fish, one of the two oars became dislodged and began to float away. Since they had no motor and only one oar left and it was starting to get dark, the lawyer began to panic, wondering how they would get back. Whereupon the Pope said, “Don’t worry my son, ” and then he stood up, walked upon the water to pick up the oar that had drifted away some fifty yards by then, walked back upon the water and got back into the boar. Thereafter, the two safely rowed to shore. Well, the next day, someone asked the lawyer how things went, fishing with the Pope and all that, and the lawyer replied, “Oh, we had a grand time of it but, say, did you know that the Pope can’t swim?”
Frank Anderson says
Wellington, you do recall that one of the Generals in the Continental Army under Washington was Polish (Pulaski?). He served with great distinction and gave great assistance to the campaign and victory. By the fact that the majority if not all of the leadership during the Revolutionary War, on both sides, were Masons, the Polish General was probably a Mason too.
I’m almost certain you remember I am a lawyer. I tell lawyer jokes because so many of them are true and may help some lawyers to be better, like the minority that I have known, instead of the less worthy majority I have encountered.
I am also a degreed engineer, accountant, computer programmer, technical supervisor, radio announcer, movie projectionist, plumber, carpenter, electrician, ditch digger, farmer, machinist (early apprentice level), inventor, truck driver, gunsmith, cashier, and photographer (video and still). So nobody is safe around me. Peace and best wishes.
Wellington says
Not just Pulaski, Frank, but Kosciuszko too, first a colonel, then a brigadier general in the Continental Army and the founder of West Point. And, oh yes, I know you’re a lawyer; that’s why I told the lawyer joke that I did. Here’s another: An ocean liner goes down in the middle of the sea and all go into the water and are eaten by sharks—except for the lawyers. Why not the lawyers? Answer: professional courtesy.
And wow, what a resume you have. I was “merely” a lawyer and a history professor. But if you need company nonetheless, no one is safe around me either, except my wife, who is indeed, surely and indubitably my better half.
Frank Anderson says
W., I humbly apologize for omitting Kosciuszko (Polish names are so hard to spell correctly!). Several times when I was in Nashville helping a friend start his practice and learning how to start mine, I had to drive through Pulaski Tennessee to visit my birth mother. I don’t remember having to drive through Kosciuszko, Mississippi and therefore failed to recall another honored Polish contributor to freedom.
All good people need and benefit by good company. The Rabbi who wrote “Why Do Bad Things Happen to Good People”, whose name escapes me at the moment, also asked why collecting for religious services is helpful when God is everywhere? Because by collecting as a community for worship, each person brings his little piece of God that is part of him to share, inspire and give strength to others. And there is the beautiful, not secret quote that appears in Masonic ritual, “Behold how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity. . .”
I would not have survived to be here now without a lot of friends helping me. God brought us together. And my greatest gift and treasure is my “Commander in Chief”. I wish we had known each other a long time before we met, and had more time for better lives; but God had other plans for us.
Frank Anderson says
Wellington, I am almost certain the Rabbi’s name I could not remember is Harold Kushner. He was frequently mentioned and quoted when I was attending Jewish services; but I have not been welcome since disagreeing with the prevailing views on islam.
gravenimage says
Great exchange, Wellington and Frank.
And Frank, I thought *I* had an eclectic resume, but I’ve got nothing on you.
And Wellington, most people I know who tell Polish jokes are actually themselves of Polish heritage. My husband is German and Polish on one side of the family. A fraught heritage, but a quite common one.
Frank Anderson says
Some of the resume is by choice; other is by necessity. I forgot to include contract administrator/negotiator for nuclear and non-nuclear utilities. One of the reasons I know a little about nuclear issues.
TKF says
Where’s a guillotine when you need one?
Frank Anderson says
Much closer than we think, for “us” or “them”.
Frank Anderson says
Much closer than we think; for ‘us’ or for “them”.
Wellington says
A beautiful sentiment.
brane pilot says
They could have had LePenn.
Instead, they wanted this childless… thing.
Choke to death on it, France.
StellaSaidSo says
They wanted Le Pen. They got Macron because the election was rigged in his favour.
gravenimage says
66% of French people voted for Macron, 33% for Le Pen. Certainly, this was clueless–and ultimately harmful–on the part of the French electorate, but I don’t see how it was rigged?
Frank Anderson says
GI, with your knowledge of history, how many people voted for Hitler in the various elections including the last? I think the last was 98 percent but would appreciate correction. I have the book Nazi Seizure of Power and Rise and Fall in my collection and will try to find the numbers. Elections can be rigged and voters can be fooled.
gravenimage says
Frank, I don’t think that France is so far gone that they are faking their election results–not yet, anyway.
I think it is more that too many in France are *still* in denial over Islam being an existential threat.
You are right, though–while Hindenberg won by a farly large margin in 1932, by 1936 Hitler had such a stranglehold that that the reported vote for him was 98.8%. Even given his admitted popularity with many in Germany, this is obviously completely false; laughably so.
Frank Anderson says
GI, WE are never that far apart on any issue.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
I was in France during the 2017 election, and, as I have stated previously on JW – and in some detail – it was not a fair contest. The fact that YOU ‘can’t see how it was rigged’ does not mean that there was no interference. It simply means that you are naïve.
gravenimage says
Well, I know the Nazi National Vanguard claimed that the French election was rigged by the Jews.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
And your point is…?
On another thread, I provided information about irregularities in the 2017 French election, and you thanked me for ‘the view on the ground’. Why did you not take issue with me at that point, if you truly believe that France 2017 was a fair contest?
gravenimage says
Stella, it may surprise you that I don’t have your entire posting history at Jihad Watch right in front of me, but I don’t. If you have reference to that post, I can take a look at it.
gravenimage says
I wrote:
Well, I know the Nazi National Vanguard claimed that the French election was rigged by the Jews.
StellaSaidSo wrote:
@gravenimage
And your point is…?
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It actually took a second reading of this for it to sink in. Stella, are you *really* agreeing with them that the French election was rigged by the Jews?
National Vanguard also hates Marine Le Pen for “her endless kowtowing to the Jews”.
All very troubling.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
No, of course I am not agreeing with the Nazis, and there is nothing in my post to suggest that I do.
What makes you so sure that France 2017 wasn’t rigged? Were you there? Who did you speak to? On what information do you base your opinion?
gravenimage says
Is Stella agreeing with them that the French election was rigged by the Jews? Good grief…
As for the election itself, it is not just the election results that indicate that Macron won; it is also *exit polls* themselves:
“France exit polls indicate Macron wins presidential election; Le Pen concedes defeat”
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/07/france-election-2017-president-results-macron-le-pen.html
From the article:
“Macron seen taking 65.1% of vote versus 34.5% for Le Pen, IPSOS poll shows”
The results of the polls are very close to the results of the final election results–a bit less than twice as many votes for Macron than for Le Pen.
I am, goodness knows, not happy with these results–but neither am I pretending that they did not happen. More people need to learn about the threat of Islam. If they knew, the results almost certainly would have been entirely different.
In the same way, many people in the US voted for Obama, not in most cases because they wanted a dangerous unpatriotic crypto-Muslim in the White House, but because they swallowed his whole “hope and change” blather.
European pagan says
Europe is our home, we want to live here safe. I want to wear my normal clothes, to practice my religion, I don’t want to be murdered or raped, and I don’t want any sharia police on the streets. If there are too many muslims here, then Europe will be like Iran! I don’t want it! DON’T DESTROY OUR HOME!
Frank Anderson says
E.P. analytically, you have taken the first step to solving any problem by recognizing that a problem exists and being dissatisfied enough to protest. What next?
Please consider some suggested steps:
1) Learn more about the problem. Read some books; talk with knowledgeable people who will be honest about the problem and think for yourself. Don’t try to know “everything” before taking action.
2) Understand this will make you very unpopular in circles you may enjoy now. It happened to me. But if you wish to live as a free person accept that those people are not your friends and move on.
3) Think about what you can do to help. Can you get others who do not see what disaster is coming to wake up and start looking for themselves. What else can you do to either prepare to leave or weather the growing nightmare.
I urge you to take the time to read the 200 or so pages of the 1000 page Rise and Fall of the Third Reich that covers between the end of WWI and the January 30, 1933 when Hitler was appointed Chancellor (Prime Minister). To me that excerpt is just like reading today’s news.
I cannot understand how half of Germany’s Jews refused to believe Hitler was serious about killing them. Hitler’s first public speech in August, 1920 declared war on Jews. The Jews in Germany and in surrounding countries had 19 years of speeches, publications and violence to let them know what was coming, and failed to get out when they could. Half tried, Half didn’t. Some who didn’t served in the German armed forces and collaborated. To me this experience is a good place to learn and think about what can be done now, if anything. Opinions and advice may differ. It is your decision.,
gravenimage says
Not everyone could afford to leave–and many thought that ultimately Germany was too civilized for such barbarism. Sadly they were wrong.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I dread the thought of my living long enough to even think “I told you so.” I have recorded so many survivors of the Holocaust so many times that I have lost count. I still have many of the recordings saved on my computer. I understand, some could not afford to get out. WHY were they not helped by those already out? Some did not believe? With 19 years of uninterrupted clear warnings of intent, AMAZING. And now it is not just Jews but an incredible number of people around the world who deny the 1400 year promise and practice of mass murder. Jorge Santayana must be very sad the truth of his statement is being proved in such devastating dimensions today. If all I can do at the moment is to keep “lighting candles” that must be what God intends. But I will keep lighting candles until better comes along in God’s Time.
gravenimage says
Frank, you wrote:
GI, I dread the thought of my living long enough to even think “I told you so.” I have recorded so many survivors of the Holocaust so many times that I have lost count. I still have many of the recordings saved on my computer. I understand, some could not afford to get out. WHY were they not helped by those already out? Some did not believe? With 19 years of uninterrupted clear warnings of intent, AMAZING.
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I have also read a lot of survivor stories, Frank, as well as accounts from the time. I know that some who got out *did* try to help loved ones left behind. Some did not have a lot of extra money after having escaped themselves, some had loved ones who thought that flight was too alarmist, and–after a point–the Nazis no longer allowed their victims even to flee.
And some did flee, but did not anticipate the Nazis rolling over much of Europe.
I remember when I was a small child, I though of Anne Frank as a quintessential Dutch girl. When I first learned that she and her family were German, I was at first confused.
It was only later that I came to understand the full tragedy–her father well understood the threat of the Nazis, carefully set up business in the neighboring Netherlands, and then was horrified to find their facing the same danger as those who did nothing to escape it.
More:
And now it is not just Jews but an incredible number of people around the world who deny the 1400 year promise and practice of mass murder. Jorge Santayana must be very sad the truth of his statement is being proved in such devastating dimensions today.
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Grimly true. People are in denial now just as they were eighty years ago. Depending on how you look at it, this is either depressing or heartening–depressing, because many people do not learn from history; heartening because free people in the West *did* finally wake up then, and can now.
More:
If all I can do at the moment is to keep “lighting candles” that must be what God intends. But I will keep lighting candles until better comes along in God’s Time.
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Keep lighting those candles, Frank.
If those like Churchill and the handful of journalists and others then had not kept sounding the alarm, most never would have woken up before it was too late.
I believe it is the same now.
Did you ever publish any of those survivor accounts?
Frank Anderson says
Right before I had my heart surgery, my wonderful “Commander in Chief” and I split the cost of a very expensive video camera, Then I had the surgery. The only reason for the camera was to record events at both local congregations. The camera has a hard drive that can hold over 10 hours at highest, nearly HD, definition, which can be transferred to my computer and then made into DVD’s. Then the DVD’s went to the Temple for their library and distribution. I never charged or asked a dime for my work. They did buy some blank DVD’s. I built the computer to have plenty of space and never needed to erase. You would not believe the insults from some in the congregation! Made it just that much easier to decide and move on.
gravenimage says
It sounds like great work, Frank.
Northern Virginiastan says
I often think that the hysteria about Russian meddling in BREXIT, Italy, Hungary, etc. election is an effort to undermine legitimate voting results.
Indiana Tom says
It is; but most countries try to sway elections in other countries one way or another. Nothing new.
gravenimage says
France’s Macron vows to punish European states that won’t accept mass Muslim migration
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Just appalling dhimmitude.
StellaSaidSo says
No. Just committed globalism.
gravenimage says
Stella, how is this enabling of Islam not dhimmitude?
StellaSaidSo says
GI, if you knew anything about globalism, you would not ask such a dumb question.
Enablers like Macron are not dhimmis. They know exactly what they are doing. The Islamic hordes are merely a means to an end.
gravenimage says
Is this another claim that Muslims are just being used by…well, someone?
Really, Jihad had been going on for centuries–since long before the Masons or the Illuminati or Opus Dei or what have you came along.
StellaSaidSo says
@gravenimage
The fact that jihad has been ‘going on for centuries’ does not mean that it is not being used to advantage by other players on the current political stage.
I see that you still haven’t bothered to learn a damn thing about globalism. Yet you bang on constantly about other people’s ‘wilful ignorance’.
gravenimage says
Many people *are* in denial about the Jihad threat. The idea that everyone knows about it but is just evil really is not borne out.
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
Who said that ‘everyone knows about it’? I didn’t. Once again, you avoid the point.
gravenimage says
Those poor, poor Mohammedans…
infidel says
Many of these bankers are real scum globalists… I know many of them from my own country India who worked for Deutsche Bank in the USA and triggered one of the WORST financial crisis in the world in 2008 and where many families and even entire nations like Iceland went Bankrupt..
StellaSaidSo says
+1
JayT says
So, is he going to punish Saudi Arabia and all the Muslim countries for not reaching out to take in the refugees?
Erl Roe says
Well I am so pleased to be living in New Zealand… There are not many French people here . But I can’t imagine any of them wanting to leave to go back to live France and to live under such a traitor as Macron … he is a scumbag nothing less he would walk back wards over a cliff if he had a chance knowing that his country is falling apart
Maximus says
…and how are you going to punish them Mr. M? Send them all your unfresh frogs?
Lavéritétriomphera says
He is be too big for his boots. I don’t know how he can do that, it does not sound plausible.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Erratum,
Macron, who wants to be a “jupitarian” president, is too big for his boots, and a large majority of my follow citizens has voted for him, but now they regret it https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/23/macrons-popularity-falls-further-in-september—poll.html. And in order to emphasize the point, after saying we are alcoholics illiterates, he said that France did many bad things. We wonder if he really likes his country.
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . , Can there be any reasonable doubt that he hates France? Obama hates the United States and shows that hatred at every opportunity. Why not Macron? “If it walks like a duck; quacks like a duck; swims like a duck and flies like a duck; It’s a duck!” If breaking every concept of fiduciary duty to destroy the country he is supposed to be leading, serving and protecting isn’t enough to make his view clear; what does it take?
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi Frank Anderson,
We can not help get concerned, although he did not say “Aprés moi le deluge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apr%C3%A8s_nous_le_d%C3%A9luge“, but the Franco-German couple A Merkel and E Macron wants to rule EU which is a great economic and space power. There are indications they could have chosen a agenda for the future of Europe, and France is a nuclear power.
If I understand it well and as the European has made it clear on Christine Tasin website, the power must be returned to the Germans and French people, it must not be given to an elite who insists to choose our destiny.
Amitiès
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . ., changes are required in many places for the same reason, to prevent conquest by totalitarian slavery while preserving freedom and opportunity. There are almost certainly many books describing the misery under Communism. The only title I can think of at the moment is MiG 25 Pilot, about the Russian pilot who flew a MiG 25 to Japan. The misery, murder and oppression under Communism is nothing compared to the total domination of islam. The book written by medical doctor Wafa Sultan about her life in Syria before her escape should make believers out of many.
Making the changes to stop the conquest is not something that can wait. Enough people like Macron, Merkel and May are in charge that the need is immediate. But all changes must be done within the law. Any criminal response will only enable them to accelerate their criminal conspiracy to destroy liberty. Look at the futility of the assassinations during the Nazi occupation, in France and elsewhere. The primary accomplishment of those killings was to trigger mass executions of innocent multitudes. No meaningful change in a positive direction was accomplished while tens of thousands died in reprisals.
The first logical step to solving a problem is recognizing and accepting a problem exists. The second step, which must not be an excuse for inaction, is to understand enough of the problem to propose solutions to test. Step 3 is to test those solutions and see which work and which do not so that limited resources and time can be focused on working opportunities.
This is a time for reason and logic to prevail over indifference, panic and collaboration. We must win.
Best wishes now and for the future.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Frank,
Very true, but I do not think totalitarian systems and of course Islam, are the only problem. The galloping demography can be dramatic especially in Africa, it is an handicap to socio-economic development and I agree with Macron when he pointed out the question of population growth in the Black Continent.
Population in sub-Saharan Africa is mostly Christian, but when you are in great need, the religion does not really matter, to eat is a priority even though we have noticed that some prefer to die rather than eating forbidden food!
In the Mediterranean world since ancient times we never succeed to find a common
ground. For exemple Algerian and Marocans are Muslim but they can’t stand each other https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2017/03/210516/france-can-prevent-morocco-algeria-war-erupting/, this is even true here in France.
France and Italy are Latin and Roman Catholic, it’s six of one and half dozen of the other. We are too similar and it is love/hate.
Best wishes from Occitania France
Franklin Anderson says
Lav. . ., When I, and I believe when most, write here about totalitarians I have little or no doubt that islam is included. There is no difference among any of them in the goal to enslave. The only difference that will keep the killing going forever is who will be in charge.
As I see it preventing progress and creating empty stomachs is just one of the tactics used to impose control. Look for example at countries and churches that prohibit birth control so as to either have an exploding population of desperately poor, sick people begging, or a repressed and miserable population that works itself to death. While I oppose abortion as a “preferred” method of population control when other less brutal medical choices are available. . .? Of course we could always use Stalin’s method of arbitrary death quotas (POST BIRTH ABORTIONS) to kill a certain number in each governmental division or the governor would be killed. Now THAT is an effective way to keep the numbers under control. And think about the race to avoid being one chosen to die? Have you ever played “musical chairs”? How about instead of being excluded from the next round you were shot dead?
In all totalitarian systems, the leadership demands, “YOU are an idiot; I am a genius who will protect you from all ills.” And then they kill you whenever you are no longer convenient.
Respect and best wishes.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour Franklin,
As I was able to observe in Africa when an African can not look after a child, he lets him die. Galloping demography frequently results in socio-economic problems, misery and fascists of all stripes take advantage of the situation.
That is a vicious circle : misery brings jealousy, totalitarianism which brings misery, wars, frustrations, emigrations etc.
The herbivore population growth was out of control in Yellowstone and the wolves were successfully reintroduced https://www.yellowstonepark.com/park/yellowstone-wolves-reintroduction.
We have to limit human population growth to be able to get out of this downward spiral and if we want to preserve the Earth. In the opposite case nature will do what nature does and imponderables will occur.
I am a man and I think when the abortion debate is reopened, the women have the right to make the final decision.
Peace and prosperity
Amitiès
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . ., I cannot tell you how long ago I first heard the proverb, “Where you stand often depends on where you sit.” The tragic decision to end a child’s life, before or after birth, was avoided for me by adoption. That was well over 60 years ago, before the invention of “the pill”. Now implants are available to provide, I understand, 5 years of birth control. I have counseled a number of women who have had pre-birth abortions. It remains a source of misery, sadness, embarrassment and grief for the rest of their lives. I can only imagine the impact of a “post-birth abortion” or infanticide.
For 39 years, until I found her and asked that she stop grieving for giving me to adoption my mother lived in sadness and shame. She accepted scorn and abuse because she did not think she was worth better. I changed that with my first telephone call and 21 years of visits. She died a free person knowing that she was loved by God and her children.
My understanding of God is that all of us as His Children should live in joy, freedom and peace, without the slavery of any form of guilt-because guilt is the worst form of slavery. We do it to ourselves. We know our weaknesses and failures. Boy do I know mine; and living with them is a daily struggle. Ethics often has to bend to the practical. But when a better way, that does not cause lifelong suffering is available, that way should be made available. When as with all totalitarians, from George Bernard Shaw, to Hitler, to Stalin, to Mao, to islam, life is valueless unless it is theirs, misery is normal.
That is as wrong and evil as I can imagine. Between the Islamic teaching of mass reproduction to the Catholic prohibition of effective birth control, the problem of population will remain nothing but a source of misery both to the overloaded parents and to the people around them. The methods of controlling population as a direct result then become matters of war, disease, starvation and other forms of murder. Exploding populations are being used as an excuse, as many other issues, to impose control on people who deserve to be free. To the God of Life, life is sacred and treasured. To the god of slavery and death, life is valueless.
May there always be peace between us.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Franklin,
Only those who have lived experiences can testify and I have not experienced something similar. I was nearly twenty when my mother said she almost died at the stillbirth of her fifth child because of a massive hemorrhage and emergency transfusion was required, we have been saved in the nick of time. I spent a lot of time thinking about my birth, if my mother died my father would have been alone and lonely with his four children to brought up.
I agree with you culpability is poison. Only the God of life, truth/Liberty can exist. He is not Allah, and I hop I am wrong but I wonder if some Muslim women do not have many children to turn them in cannon fodder.
Totalitarian ideologies and its leaders make me think about the beast of the apocalypse and the antichrist.
We must defeat those who want war.
Peace on Earth
Your friend
Frank Anderson says
Lav. . .When mothers of suicide bombers in the West Bank and Gaza are forced to celebrate the death of their children and say they wish all of them would die in the same way, a lot of the reason is that failure to make those statements would deny the payments they receive from the authority. Reading Medical Doctor Sultan’s A God Who Hates, will show that many muslim men care only about sex, and care nothing about the hordes of children they produce or the women they enslave to produce the children. The last show on Fox News with E.D. Hill included a recording of a muslim father dressing his 3 year old son as a suicide bomber. Israel finally put brakes on the suicide bombing campaign by killing leaders who ordered the bombings instead of just watching helplessly as they continued.
Remember the muslim man in Germany, with 4 wives and 20 children who receives $397,000 per year in tax free government welfare benefits plus all manner of other assistance. Fools who pay the taxes to support this will suffer until they learn and force changes. “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money to give away.” Margaret Thatcher.
For the better day.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi Franklin,
Some times I regret gladiator games, if they like so much death why do they not die while entertaining the public, rather than strap bombs to themselves and set out to kill and maim?
This brings me back to my starting point, the couple Macron/Merkel who wants to rule EU, Macron said Islam is perfectly compatible with republic’s laws and Merkel said migration could become the make-or-break one for the EU. French and Germans have voted for them and now we have to deal with our leaders.
Yes for a better day
Kévin
Frank Anderson says
Kevin, you have my best wishes for all you treasure, both people and liberty. We will strive together for those goals.
Frank
gravenimage says
Good exchange, Frank and Lavéritétriomphera.
IanB says
Macron’s attitude is shared by other EU politicians and bureaucrats. This is just one of the reasons we patriotic Britons voted for Brexit.
Vicky says
He is a mad man that must be destroyed!
Sam says
I am surprised this idiot did not mention Trump as all liberals somehow believe Trump is the reason for their problems.
Forcing people to accept strangers as immigrants to someone’s own city and neighborhood financed by that person’s tax dollars is so wrong that it should not even be a point of discussion in a free world.
Frank Anderson says
Sam, do you think it is only because they are strangers? Or could it be that those strangers are there to invade, conquer, enslave and kill the people who are paying for them to be there? I predict both of us have tried to help people we did not know. But the people we try to help don’t want to kill us.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Of course not, Trump is not the president of France, he is the president of USA, and he protects the interests of his country, that’s completely normal.
s says
so the Sharia loving leader of France has a star halo instead of the Jesus Halo Obama would always be photographed with…. the anti-Christ movement is filled with lies and hypocrisy…. the Catholic Church is following the dictates of the UN… the year of the woman is the Blessed woman Program being instituted by churches across the globe…. they must be stopped… pray and say the rosary daily.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noticed and commented on the “Obama halo” many times. Cynical manipulation.
Garfield says
that and obamas “Latte salute”….make me have to decide to calm down and not get so disgusted. I have no idea how obama was ever elected. are people that BAD or that STUPID?
gravenimage says
Mostly stupid. I have a lot of neighbors who still have Obama bumper stickers on their cars. Virtue signalling.
Indiana Tom says
Emmanuel Macron has said funding should be withdrawn from pro-sovereignty nations reluctant to hand more power over to Brussels, and that countries which refuse to welcome third world migrants must be thrown out of the Schengen area.
Door swings both ways.
Pro-sovereign nations should quit paying into EU and slam the door on Muslims and Bolsheviks entering their country.
Meekexit says
Exact
gravenimage says
+1
Indiana Tom says
Watching videos of Eastern Europe, they seem to be doing better and some are getting close or maybe even better in standard of living than England. Things are not like USA. But I can think of areas of Eastern Europe I would much prefer to live in than Londonistan.
Indiana Tom says
I always thought old Danzig Poland and surrounding areas on the Baltic could be very nice. Carpathian Ukraine is very nice and so is Lviv.. Baltic States are interesting. I refuse to go to Western Europe for vacation and be a prey animal for Muslims.
Garfield says
I used to want to see Paris. Not anymore.
I dont want to go to muslim areas at all and if I want to see tent cities, there’s plenty in California.
Frederick Revell says
Two evils here, one is not knowing who is being let into our country the other is Macron shows that his relationship with Merkel allows him to dictate his policies to other EU countries. So what does that say for Merkel’s Germany, Macron is only the errand not. Shows why Britain MUST leave the EU.
Politicianophobia says
Well, it is a lovely windy day, a good day to climb high in a tree and sway back and forth as I did in my youth, but after reading the comments on here today, and the number of people who think 60ish is old, I am second guessing myself. It is a cold, damp, day so maybe I will have my first fire of the season, a glass of wine, and listen to Dire Straits. I could read about what Justine Trudeau is up to but hell, why spoil a good day. Keep on the sunny side all and never say die.
Frank Anderson says
Pol, I am a little limited physically. I “usetocould” lift about twice what I can now. I could work in heat a lot longer. And I take a lot of naps and drink a lot of non-alcoholic liquids because the pills I take demand it. But 60 plus is not old yet, It is experienced. My uncle, Grump, in his 80’s could walk me into the ground when I was in my teens and 20’s. I want to see how this turns out!
Credit to Jeff Foxworthy for “usetocould”. I am a wanna be redneck.
IanB says
Next year my wife and I will have city holidays in Krakow, Budapest and an extended stay in Croatia. In the past we have had annual holidays in France, Spain, Portugal, Italy or Greece. This December we will enjoy the Christmas markets in Prague rather than in Lille, Berlin or Salzburg as in the past. We now stay well away from London. We are considering moving home from rural Leicestershire to Devon, Cornwall or the Norfolk coast – areas least infested with Muslims. We are not alone in making, or considering to make, these changes.
Politicianophobia says
Well Frank, one glass of wine and I climbed higher in the tree and then, the wind began to rock the tree with threatening tunes and lo there came one giant drop of rain………so I climbed down and had another glass of wine for you my dear, honourable friend. Keep on the sunny side.
Frank Anderson says
I think you understand. We will. ALL of us. God wants His Children to live and be happy.
bannedquran40 says
This guy must be an islamic sympathizer
Stephen says
Little Napoloen needs to shut up. Most people in Europe want out of the France/German project. Both countries failed to force there projects down our throats in two world wars not to mention Napoleon attempt. They failed the and they will fail now.