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Hugh Fitzgerald: Two Versions of the Dalai Lama (Part I)

Sep 17, 2018 11:05 am By Hugh Fitzgerald

There seem to be two Dalai Lamas when it comes to Islam.

The first Dalai Lama, like that other expert on Islam Pope Francis, knows that authentic Islam is opposed to terrorism, that Islam is all about peace, and that any Muslim who engages in violence for that very reason can not be a “genuine Muslim.”

Here he is, for example, in a speech in Strasbourg in September 2016:

“‘Any person who wants to indulge in violence is no longer a genuine Buddhist or genuine Muslim,’ says Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader.

He argued that differentiating fundamentalism from Islam itself was a key way to stop violence and strengthen integration.

The Dalai Lama has said there is no such thing as a “Muslim terrorist” as anyone who partakes in violent activities is not a “genuine” Muslim.

Speaking at the European Parliament in Strasbourg in France at the end of last week, Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader suggested the phrase was a contradiction in terms and condemned those who commit violent acts in the name of religion.

The Dalai Lama asserted that all religions were united by the values of love, compassion, tolerance and more. He argued that with this common ground the world would be able to build peace.

Where and when have Muslims demonstrated “the values of love, compassion, tolerance…” to non-Muslims?

“Buddhist terrorist. Muslim terrorist. That wording is wrong,” he said. “Any person who wants to indulge in violence is no longer a genuine Buddhist or genuine Muslim, because it is a Muslim teaching that once you are involved in bloodshed, actually you are no longer a genuine practitioner of Islam.”

Where  does it say anywhere in the Qur’an or the hadith that “once you are involved in bloodshed, actually you are no longer a genuine practitioner of Islam”? Nowhere. Quite the reverse: throughout the Qur’an, in 109 Jihad verses, Muslims are commanded to engage in bloodshed. In the Hadith, Muhammad, the Perfect Man and Model of Conduct — and therefore to be emulated — takes part in 27 military campaigns, orders the torture and killing of Kinana of Khaybar, directly engages in the decapitation of 600-900 bound prisoners of the Banu Qurayza, and is delighted to receive news of the murders of people who had mocked or opposed him, including Asma bint Marwan, Abu ‘Afak, and Ka’b bin al-Ashraf. Wasn’t this warrior and killer “involved in bloodshed”? And who, if not Muhammad, was a “genuine practitioner of Islam”?

“All major religious traditions carry the same message: a message of love, compassion, forgiveness, tolerance, contentment, self-discipline – all religious traditions.”

This isn’t true. There is no “message of love” for non-Muslims in Islam. Rather, Muslims are told to make war until all non-Muslims are subdued, and offered only the options of death, conversion to Islam, or enduring the permanent status of dhimmi, with its many onerous conditions. Where is the “love, compassion, forgiveness, tolerance, contentment,” etc. in any of this? Indeed, Muslims are taught to not even take “Christians  and Jews as friends, for they are friends only with each other.” They are taught, too, according to a famous hadith, that they may smile at Infidels, as long as they curse them in their hearts. None of this suggests the “love, compassion, forgiveness, tolerance” that the Dalai Lama insists are the essence of Islam’s message.

“He argued that differentiating between fundamentalism and Islam was a key way to stop violence and strengthen integration: ‘On that level, we can build a genuine harmony, on the basis of mutual respect, mutual learning, mutual admiration”.

“Mutual respect, mutual learning, meaning admiration”? Is he unfamiliar with the Qur’anic verse that describes Muslims as the “best of peoples” (3:110) while the non-Muslims are described as “the most vile of creatures” (98:6)? How can Muslims admire those whom they have been told not to take even as friends, how can they admire those they are told are “the most vile of creatures”? It’s not possible.

On what basis does the Dalai Lama make such remarks? It’s amazing to think that at the age of 83, with all the time in the world to have engaged in the study of other religions, he still has managed to avoid learning what Islam is all about. Or is it that he hopes that somehow, by dint of ignoring the essence of Islam, he can somehow affect the attitudes and behavior of Muslims? He is foolish to keep making pronouncements on Islam without having read, and studied, the Qur’an and Hadith. And he is both foolish and wicked if he has indeed read and studied the canonical Islamic texts, and decided that nonetheless he will ignore their content and attempt, using his great and quite undeserved prestige, to convince us that the authentic Islam — the same authentic Islam that Pope Francis refers to — has nothing to do with violence or terrorism.

In September 2014, at a meeting in India, the Dalai Lama made the usual claim of the apologists that Jihad is a Spiritual Struggle:

“Jihad combats inner destructive emotions. Everybody carries jihad in their hearts, including me,” the Dalai Lama said.

This claim that Jihad is an interior struggle comes from a supposed hadith about Muhammad returning from the “Lesser Jihad” of warfare to the “Greater Jihad” of his own spiritual struggle. No one, by the way, has been able to find the source of this supposed hadith.

The Dalai Lama said Indian Muslims can offer lessons on Shia-Sunni harmony as Shias feel safer in India than in Pakistan.

Why would that be? It’s because the Hindu majority, which controls the police and security services, keep violence down between the sects, without favoring either side. In Pakistan, on the other hand, the Sunni majority does nothing to protect the Shi’a from Sunni attacks, such as those carried out by the anti-Shi’a terrorist group Sipah-e-Sahaba. The only “lesson” to be learned has nothing to do with Indian Muslims being somehow different, but rather, with the fact that non-Muslims in India are better able to hold the intra-Muslim violence in check.

As far back as  2008, the Dalai Lama said what lots of Western leaders have been saying about Islam since 2001. He said “it was wrong, it was entirely unfair, to call Islam a violent religion.” But six years later, in September 2014, at a conference of religious leaders he had organized, the Dalai Lama seemed to modify his earlier brisk dismissal of any connection between Islam and violence, when he said that “killing in the name of faith is terrible.” The implication was clear: some people [Muslims] were killing in the name of faith, and while that was “terrible,” it was no longer “entirely unfair” to link some Muslims to such violence. Everyone understood what adherents he must have intended to set straight about their own faith. At least he recognized that some people “claimed” to be acting violently in accordance with the texts and teachings of their religion, even if those people were “wrong.”

Then he showed he was still determined to give Islam a pass, adding in the same speech that “jihad was being misused and the term connotes fighting one’s own impurities.” No, that’s what the apologists maintain. He clearly had been reading too much Karen Armstrong. And still worse was to follow: “Jihad combats inner destructive emotions. Everybody carries jihad in their hearts, including me.” Apparently Muslims over the past 1400 years have everywhere misunderstood the true nature of jihad, which only very tangentially might have to do with fighting the Infidels, failing to understand that it describes an individual’s struggle to be a better person.

Is it possible that the Dalai Lama really does not know by this point, in 2018, how Muslims understand the word “jihad” and how they historically have acted when commanded to wage “jihad,” does not know with what murderous meaning the Qur’an endows that word? Perhaps he really doesn’t know. Or perhaps he thinks that if he (and others) repeat this jihad-as-inner-struggle mantra, that many Muslims will in time convince themselves that that is really what “jihad” is about. But why would they listen to the Dalai Lama and not their own clerics?  Other world leaders have described Islam in similarly misleading terms — Barack Obama (“the true peaceful nature of Islam”), Tony Blair (the Islamic State’s ideology is “based in a complete perversion of the proper faith of Islam”), Pope Francis (“Islam is a religion of peace”) – whenever they pontificated about Islam, a faith which they so maddeningly presume to know so much about. Muslim behavior did not change as a result. In the case of Obama, Blair and the Pope, one has the feeling that they really believe the nonsense they are spouting. With the Dalai Lama, who has been exposed to Islam in Asia for more than a half-century, his real beliefs are still not clear.

The prominent Syrian cleric Ramadan al-Buti complained that when Westerners describe Islam as a “religion of peace,” they are not trying to defend Islam, but to trick Muslims into believing it is peaceful, and then – horribile dictu — into giving up the real doctrine of jihad for that ludicrous “inner struggle” business. Of course, Islam is about violence and war, said the truth-telling Ramadan Al-Buti. But why believe a prominent Muslim cleric about Islam, when there are so many non-Muslims, like the loquacious Dalai Lama, ready to tell both us, and Muslims, that the faith is all about peace and tolerance?

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  1. eduardo odraude says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 11:13 am

    I know the Dalai Lama has in the past supported misinformed views of Islam. Recent comments of his, however, cause me to wonder if he has awakened about the real character of the religion as an expansionist totalitarian movement.

  2. George says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 11:14 am

    Buddhists have some of the worst experiences with Islam, yet they do not accept the nature of the crocadile but hope to domesticate him.

  3. Porky The Crusader says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 11:22 am

    How Pislam have the audacity to call themselves a religion of peace is beyond me, unless it’s a Monty Pythonesque sort of joke which we know it isn’t.

    • Resistance is not futile says

      Sep 17, 2018 at 12:52 pm

      Porky careful they love to ban people here.

      • Mirren10 says

        Sep 17, 2018 at 2:53 pm

        What rubbish.People are very very rarely banned here.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 17, 2018 at 8:48 pm

        Mirren is right. Posters are very rarely banned here unless they incite violence or are threatening other posters.

        I’ve seen others use the term “Pislam” here many times without being banned.

        Moreover, while Porky The Crusader is not a frequent poster, he has been commenting here for years.

  4. Rish says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 11:28 am

    I also remember the Dalai Lama’s one-sided condemning the Myanmar Buddhists, as if only they were to blame for the violence. That is what he is telling his followers.

    Part of it can be explained by politics. He doesn’t want to alienate too many people, so he takes the safe path of following mainstream opinion.

    A more objective Buddhist commentator on Islam is Ole Nydahl.

    • katherine says

      Sep 17, 2018 at 4:05 pm

      I remember how he sweetened up on Islam after $OBama paid him a visit.

      I also remember a similar incident where the government of Sweden suspended a general election after the same $OB paid them a visit.

      This devious Lama is a peaceably pliable personality, I’m afraid – quite unlike the blunderbuss Duterte who called out the $-0-W before he could even visit.

  5. Former Buddhist says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    I’m looking forward to Part II.

    Stuff like this is why I think Buddhism needs to be scrutinized too, like how Islam and atheism and postmodernism are.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 17, 2018 at 8:51 pm

      Of course–every faith should be openly scrutinized.

      But Buddhists are not slaughtering unbelievers, as Muslims are.

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 2:38 pm

    Memo to the Dalai Lama:

    “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims” and is a “communal obligation” –

    Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, o9.0

  7. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    Fitzgerald, it is you who is ignorant about what Islam truly teaches because you don’t care to learn it,but resort to cherry picking of Islamic sources (mainly Quran and Hadith). such Chery picking results in distortions. Had it been that you have proper learning about Islam, you will realise that the general rule In Islam is peace and tolerance. Jihad fighting is the last resort to restore peace. That is why a Quranic verse states “fa In janahu lissilmi fajnah laha (when hostile Non-muslim combatants incline to peace, Muslims shall incline to it because it is the general rule).” There is nowhere in the Quran or Hadith where non-muslims are given choice either to convert to Islam or be killed. That is your assumption arising from Chery picking and ignoring the contexts. Such misinterpretations are exactly what led the misguided terrorists to resort to violence all the time by carrying out indiscriminate killing of innocent people and those who differ with them like shia Muslims. Remember, these terrorist groups are the creation of mithraist christian west headed by evil United States to destabilise muslim nations and to blackmail Islam as it is evident in Syria and Iraq. wicked scums of evils!!

    • Rarely says

      Sep 17, 2018 at 7:14 pm

      Hi Ibrahim.
      Nothing but peace in islam.
      Tell us again why the minor happenings in Yemen are the fault of the U.S., Israel and/or the Jews?
      Also tell us why muslims can’t even take responsibility for their own efin civil wars. It’s your pea-brained co-religionists who are efin pulling the triggers and killing each other.
      We should build a wall around all the muslim countries in the Middle East and then deal with the survivor.
      History proves that when Christians and Jews are not readily available muslims murder other muslims. Murder, murder, murder. It’s all you a**holes understand. Why don’t you take up checkers instead?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 17, 2018 at 9:05 pm

      ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      Fitzgerald, it is you who is ignorant about what Islam truly teaches because you don’t care to learn it,but resort to cherry picking of Islamic sources (mainly Quran and Hadith). such Chery picking results in distortions.
      ……………………….

      Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed does not point to a single thing that Hugh Fitzgerald got wrong–because he cannot.

      More:

      Had it been that you have proper learning about Islam, you will realise that the general rule In Islam is peace and tolerance. Jihad fighting is the last resort to restore peace. That is why a Quranic verse states “fa In janahu lissilmi fajnah laha (when hostile Non-muslim combatants incline to peace, Muslims shall incline to it because it is the general rule).”
      ……………………….

      This is only true if the “general rule” is that Infidels are living under the Muslim heel. Ibrahim itace muhammed himself has said that Muslims have the right to rape, enslave, and slaughter Infidels if they do not submit to Islam.

      And “restoring peace” means violently forcing Infidels to submit to Muslim rule.

      More:

      There is nowhere in the Quran or Hadith where non-muslims are given choice either to convert to Islam or be killed.
      ……………………….

      Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed slyly leaves out the third choice offered to the “people of the book” (Jews and Christians)–that is, submission as humiliated and abused dhimmis.

      There is never a point where Muslims will live with Infidels as equals–unless, of course, those Infidels are too strong from them to conquer and persecute.

      More:

      That is your assumption arising from Chery picking and ignoring the contexts. Such misinterpretations are exactly what led the misguided terrorists to resort to violence all the time by carrying out indiscriminate killing of innocent people and those who differ with them like shia Muslims. Remember, these terrorist groups are the creation of mithraist christian west headed by evil United States to destabilise muslim nations and to blackmail Islam as it is evident in Syria and Iraq. wicked scums of evils!!
      ……………………….

      Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed contradicts himself in this paragraph. First he says that Jihadists are misinterpreting their own texts; then, that that the Infidels themselves are waging violent Jihad.

      Of course, both are absurd. There is nothing so Islamic as Jihad–and Ibrahim itace muhammed has himself confirmed this.

      He just does not like Jihad groups that are rivals to his own.

      He also does not say how Islam could be “blackmailed”.

      Presumably, he means that the “filthy Infidels” want Muslims to stop waging violent Jihad against us.

      • ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Sep 18, 2018 at 3:12 am

        Liar Gravenimage, Fitzgerald is wrong because he Chery picked what suits his predetermined conclusion condemnig Islam. Look at how he made reference to one idiot Syrian he called cleric who is in fact a misguided terrorist who considers fighting Assad regime a jîhad. Fitzgerald never cares to check, who is that idiot so-called cleric. Any way mithraist christianity inspired by the satan encourages lying because the satan god mithraist christians Call Holy Spirit is the father of lies.

        • FYI says

          Sep 18, 2018 at 7:52 am

          “mithraist” Christianity?

          Christianity is based on the Gospel.

          But who claims to be the author of that “mithraist” Gospel?

          allah[Koran 3:3}

          Can your tiny moslem mind not comprehend that?Let’s see..

          If allah is the author of the Gospel koran 3:3 that means allah..
          must be the author of that “mithraist” Christianity you spew venom at?

          We know you have the reasoning faculties and wisdom of a toilet stain but it’s not hard to see the problem now is it?

          Remember,that that Holy Spirit you keep spewing evil at, is something revealed by Jesus Christ in the Gospel..a book that..

          according to YOUR moon god “allah” …claims he wrote.

          “As he revealed the Torah and the Gospel”
          koran 3:3

          Can your primitive islamic brain and Godlessly savage corrupted soul understand that?
          Nope.
          You’ll be biting your tongue out soon enough…How you muslimes HATE God!

  8. Rarely says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 7:32 pm

    Dear Mr. Dalai Lama,
    We all wish you were right and that the muslim world deeply seeks peace with the rest of the World.We too wish that “jihad” meant an inner struggle (though we can’t imagine someone swallowing an IED to fight that inner struggle). We are pleased beyond words that you have determined that the “true muslims” are eager and most willing to help ferret out those few who “misunderstand” islam and help bring them to justice. We are further encouraged that you have found no evidence that mainstream islam is preaching for death to the unbelievers.
    We are so encouraged by your revelations, in fact, that we think you should visit Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Gaza etc. where you can explain it to them. Just make sure that your Life Insurance is paid up.
    Your loving admirers.

    IDIOT. “Integration”??????????????? These idiots can’t even integrate with each other.

  9. gravenimage says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Hugh Fitzgerald: Two Versions of the Dalai Lama (Part I)
    …….,…………

    Yes–the Dalai Lama has been all over the map on Islam, though usually pretty dhimmified.

    Recently, though, he said this:

    “Dalai Lama to migrants: ‘Europe belongs to the Europeans’”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/dalai-lama-to-migrants-europe-belongs-to-the-europeans

  10. jkcf says

    Sep 17, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Bill Warner’s “The Dhimmi Dalai Lama” written in 2008 chronicles his involvement with the jihadis and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Dalai Lama’s “idiot compassion” for Islam knows no bounds.

    https://www.politicalislam.com/the-dhimmi-dalai-lama/

  11. Smart guy says

    Sep 18, 2018 at 5:22 am

    The first teaching of Buddhism is the “Right View Point.” the second is “Right Action” If the right view point of Islam is that it is a religion that seeks to conquer the world through violence and genocide, The right action to deal with such a genocidal philosophy is to outlaw Islam, beginning in all Buddhist countries.
    It seems that the leader of the Buddhists is no different that the Pope or other political leaders. A lay preacher once said that the leaders are like blind guides leading them into a pit. To become a leader of any group one has to have above average intelligence, so why is it that so called “Smart People” are lacking in common sense? Smart people are supposed to be able to recognize a lie. If we conclude that leaders are smart people and they can and do recognize a lie, then the only conclusion we can come to is that such people are taking bribes from Saudi Arabia. For a leader to claim ignorance is not acceptable. For a leader to confess to be stupid is no acceptable either.

  12. Carolyne says

    Sep 18, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Who would follow a buffoon like this man? What credentials must one have to be the Dalai Lama? Wear strange clothes? Hair style? Lack of literacy? Surely he has never read the Koran if he thinks Jihad means an inner struggle. How can people of influence such as this clown and the Pope of Rome be taken seriously when they know nothing of the subject of which the speak?

  13. hari singh says

    Sep 19, 2018 at 3:26 am

    Islam’s attacks on India destroyed the Buddhist monasteries in India and Afghanistan [yes, it’s unbelievable but Afghnaistan was once Buddhist]. When the monasteries were destroyed, the monks killed, Buddhism basically died and didn’t appear, albeit as a very small minority, until the British came to India.

  14. sidney penny says

    Sep 21, 2018 at 8:37 am

    “Where and when have Muslims demonstrated “the values of love, compassion, tolerance…” to non-Muslims?”

    Where is the answer, anyone?

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