According to a Pew Research Center study published in 2009, public perceptions depend heavily on a few key factors. Pew’s Gregory Smith explained: “One of the most powerful factors shaping views of Islam is education,” he said. “Those Americans who have more education tend to be more favorable toward Muslim Americans and Islam than Americans with less education. Interestingly, age was also a good predictor of views of Muslim Americans and Islam, with young people tend to be more favorable than were older people.”
Decades ago, Professor Marshall McLuhan observed, “The medium is the message.” As the print and electronic media enter more and more into every aspect of life, their influence increases greatly in shaping the views, deeds and behavior of the public. The power of the media is a mixed blessing. On the one hand, it can serve to expose injustices, wrongdoings, and flaws. On the other, it is able to propagate misinformation and outright disinformation and fake news. Manipulation and control of the media is of critical importance to the rule of totalitarian states. Free societies, although less subject to laundered information, are still at considerable risk of being selectively informed or misinformed outright. The public can be deceived more easily by the overlords of the media when political correctness is used as subterfuge for promotion of certain ideas.
A case in point is the media’s portrayal of Islam, articulated by politicians and pundits — the talking heads on television and radio, as well as the analysts who write for newspapers and magazines. Time and again we hear and read that Islam is a religion of peace, in spite of the fact Islam has been a religion of violence from its inception to the present. This mantra, “Islam is a religion of peace” is repeated so often that it has become an indisputable statement of fact in the minds of many. Former President George W. Bush on several occasions repeated the mantra and attributed the horrific violence committed under the banner of Islam to a small band of extremists. The President’s assertion was either based on ignorance of the facts about Islam or was an attempt at political correctness. Perhaps the President’s reticence to speak on the true nature of Islam was due to his desire to avoid inflaming the already charged feelings of many about Islam. In any event, truth was and is sacrificed, and the public continues to be fed the false notion that Islam is a peaceful religion.
People who dare to disclose the true nature of Islam run the risk of being castigated as bigots and hatemongers. Yet even a cursory examination of Islam’s history and Islamic texts conclusively proves the exact opposite of peacefulness. Islam was and continues to be a movement of unbridled violence. Islam was forced upon every people at the point of the sword and the imposition of backbreaking jaziyah (poll taxes) levied on those who were spared death and allowed to retain their religious beliefs. In addition to paying heavy jaziyah, the non-Muslims were treated, at best, as second class in their own homelands.
The abominable persecution of non-Muslims in Islamic countries is a standard operating procedure. In many Islamic countries, non-Muslim marriages are not recognized as legal unions, and the children of such couples are stigmatized as bastards. Never mind the fact that Saudi Arabia, the cradle of barbarism, and even Egypt, the more civilized Islamic country and recipient of billions of dollars in U.S. aid, treat non-Muslims as second class and deprive them of their legitimate human rights. The pundits, the analysts and the politicians are doing a great disservice to the public, each for its own expedient reasons, by parroting the mantra regarding the peaceful nature of Islam. In reality, the so-called small band of Islamic extremists is the true face of Islam.
Admittedly, from time to time and place to place, Muslims have shown a degree of tolerance for the non-Muslims. This tolerance dates back to the very early years of Muhammad himself. Early on, Muhammad proclaimed, “For you, your religion, and for me, my religion.” This assertion lasted but a few years, until Muhammad’s movement gathered strength and Islam became the only alternative to death or heavy taxation. The imposition of jaziyah was a clever ploy for filling the Islamic coffers to support its armies and to finance its further conquests.
A longstanding Islamic practice is to appear to be meek while weak and to assume despotic intolerant power when strong. The recent migration of Muslims to non-Islamic lands began as a seemingly harmless, even useful, trickle of cheap and much-needed labor. Before long, greater and greater numbers of Muslims deluged the new territories, and as they grew in numbers — by means of a high birth rate as well as new arrivals — Muslims began reverting to their intolerant ways, demanding legal status for Sharia (Islamic law), the draconian laws that resemble the laws of humanity’s barbaric past.
Islam is indeed misrepresented. But Islam is not misrepresented by its “detractors.” It is misrepresented by Islamic mercenaries: organizations and individuals generously funded by states as well as wealthy believers, who are making billions of dollars pumping and selling oil at astronomical prices. Prestigious universities in the West, always looking for handouts, are tripping over one another to establish Islamic studies programs staffed by professors who sing the praises of Islam. Newspapers are routinely intimidated by complaints by Islamic associations if they dare to print the truth about Islam. Legions of lawyers, Muslims as well as hired guns, are on the lookout to intimidate and silence any voice speaking the truth about Islam.
The media that falls in line may receive generous advertising revenue and other incentives from Islamic lobbyists. Hence it is a fact that Islam is misunderstood. It is both misunderstood and misrepresented very effectively by non-Muslim individuals and institutions who are generously rewarded by the modern-day Islamic conquerors. This time around, the Muslims are using the petrodollars they extract from oil-addicted non-Muslims. The sword is temporarily replaced by just as deadly a weapon — the petrodollar. Before long, the Muslims aim to add a deadlier modern version of the sword — the Islamic bomb. With the bomb in one hand and the other hand on the oil spigot, the Muslims hope to bring the non-Muslim world to its knees before the religion of peace and brotherhood.
Mac-101 says
It’s ridiculous that the moe EdUmaKaTion an idiot gits the moe they have a favorable imagine of Islam. Puts new meanin into the term educated idiots. Perhaps with young people likin Islam moe it is due to their desire for moe structure in their lives. Will they be in for a shock!
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So Bush gave us WMDs and Islam is the Religion f Peace for 911! No LOL!
James Lincoln says
You’re right Mac-101.
It seems like a lot of people go to college and end up getting stupid.
FYI says
You see those angry,vicious,hate-filled and ignorant faces in that photo?I’d hate to point it out to them,but in that “perfect” book they are pointing to,the one they think has no errors it,there are a number of errors in it.
1.allah claims he wrote the koran and the Bible{Gospel and Torah}
In koran 3:3,allah says the koran confirms the Bible.IT DOESN’T.IT DOES NO SUCH THING!
It contradicts both the Torah and the Gospel.
k3:3 is a FALSE statement.
Look:-
In the Gospel {which allah claims he wrote}it is recorded that Jesus was Crucified and that the Holy Spirit is God’s wisdom but in the koran{which allah claims he wrote}allah denies the former ever happened{koran 4:157}and refuses to accept the latter even exists{koran 4:171}
so the koran CONTRADICTS the Gospel:the koran does NOT confirm the Gospel.
k3:3 is a demonstrably and provably FALSE statement.
2.In koran 5 v 46,allah claims “We bestowed on [Jesus} the Gospel…..confirming the Torah”
but..ehm…the Gospel did not exist at the time when Jesus Christ was on earth:it came many years AFTER ,and it was written down by the disciples of Christ.allah didn’t write it!The completed Gospel could not have been given by allah to Jesus because Jesus was long dead and gone from this world before the Gospel appeared!
3.One of God’s chief commandments found in Judaism and Christainty{the 2nd}but of course missing in islam,emphasises the need to,in effect..
“Let’s ALL try to get along”.Love,not hate.
allah of course disagrees with God when he says in k5:51 to muslims “take not the Jews and christians for friends”which could be described as
“Let’s NOT TRY to get along”.hate,not love.
allah preaches the COMPLETE OPPOSITE to God’s command.
I wonder how receptive the devout souls in that photo would be to these facts.
Indiana Tom says
“Those Americans who have more education tend to be more favorable toward Muslim Americans and Islam than Americans with less education. Interestingly, age was also a good predictor of views of Muslim Americans and Islam, with young people tend to be more favorable than were older people.”
The Ministry of Truth appears to be doing its job.
Young people are naive and more educated people are just more indoctrinated.
More education does not make you smarter and education can just be indoctrination.
Liberal colleges impart nothing of any real value to their students.
Yes, I am college educated, but in Engineering. I did have to take some liberal classes though. I found them fairly worthless as back then the professors were of a Marxist Leninist slant.
James Lincoln says
Indiana Tom, agree.
Today, unless you are studying a STEM major at college, you are literally throwing your money away.
On top of that, a typical liberal arts student will end up becoming brainwashed by the far left. Sad.
Mac-101 says
Supposedly I read a couple years ago only 25% of the Stem graduates are working in their chosen fields. Saddled with a hundred grand in student loans they compete with Indians and Chinese who have NO loans and will work for 40 grand with a Masters or PHD!
libertyORdeath says
Just what i was going to say Tom. It is no surprise that as people age and gain REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES as opposed to indoctrination, they become more aware of the barbarism and lies of islam as well as the incompetence of the liberal left.
The liberal view of the world is based on a fantasy of a multicultural paradise just waiting for us to embrace it. All evil is caused by opposition to unhindered globalism and the West’s persecution of those outside its borders.
All it takes is some personal research to destroy these childish and dangerous opinions. As is almost always the case the best plan is to THINK FOR YOURSELF AND QUESTION AUTHORITY.
jule says
The point is not intelligence or age but the fact that people do not take the time and discipline it takes to read the Qur’an/Hadiths, history of Islam, or sermons of today in English or translated. All they do is follow Media or the crowd of voices crying ‘victim’ so they can continue, without researching if they really should be.
jule says
That statement…more education gives a better view of Islam is just not true to begin with. Its kind of an intimidation thing and I wonder who said it. Maybe I have to read the article again as I wasn’t paying attention to that statement till now.
I have also wondered, & I know the bible has it also in some places, what is the WE this book is speaking of? Almost every paragraph in the Qur’an starts with WE said, WE did, WE made, We told you.
Indiana Tom says
Both Obama and Bush were actually a detriment to American and a boon to Islam.
Two sides of the same coin, which is why Bush, Clinton, and Obama are all BFFs.
Mac-101 says
So true, ALL Uni-Party members owned by the Globalist!
StellaSaidSo says
Yep. From Bush Snr to Obama. Bush Snr especially was always banging on about the ‘New World Order’.
Mac-101 says
Don’t forgit his daddy financed Hitler and was one of the founders of OSS, forerunner to the CIA, and Bush I was CIA Director. On top of that Bush I was most likely involved in the planning of the Bay or Pigs, some say even moe!
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Last years declassification of JFK info stated that TWO bullets hit JFK and that George de Mohrenschildt was also a friend of the Hinckley family, the one’s who son shot Reagan for the love of a Lesbian! Hinckley’s brother was supposed to dine with VP Bush the next day.
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Mohrenshildt was also a friend of Jackie’s Mother and Jackie called him her Uncle, Oswald and Maria and the Bushs. He sure got around for bein a Petroleum Engineer or Geologist expat from Russia. No LOL!
StellaSaidSo says
Indeed, Mac, Bush Snr was involved in much mischief, quite a lot of it murderous. He must have been furious when young Hinckley failed to despatch Reagan.
Joe says
Yeah, it is not just “petro dollars” as the author states. If it were, Obama would not have destroyed Libya. The elite of the world are the driving power behind Islam. For the elite, the primary competition is the middle class. When the middle class gets richer, as with nationalism, the elite get poorer, and when the elite get richer, as with globalism, the middle class gets poorer. Many economic charts show this. The middle class can manufacture locally, but they can’t manufacture globally. The wealth follows the ability to manufacture. Energy is only one element of the global economy.
None of the elite the give money to the nationalists. They all give their political donations to the globalists.
The elite want anything that messes up the local economy, because that messes up middle class manufacturing. Islam has a long record of destroying the country it overtakes. If Europe, America, and other first world nations allow Islam, the globalists win. All manufacturing will be in the hands of the elite.
BARBARA BROOKS says
I think more educated people are exposed to Muslims with more democratic ideas through school and business contacts, especially Iranians who oppose the Ayatollah in Iran. They do not deal with Somalis in the ghetto or any of the reclusive communities. The media has a role, but personal contacts mean a lot, too. People need to know that these educated, progressive Muslims are perhaps 10 – 20% of the world’s Muslim population are not at all representative of the majority of Muslims around the world.
Mac-101 says
Good Point. But they STILL must read da news, or at least watch TV!
James Lincoln says
Barbara, I think these 10-20% are the “Muslims in name only”.
Muslim in name only: Knows little about Islam. Not particularly dangerous.
Muslim light: Starting to learn more about Islam. Not particularly dangerous – at the moment.
Muslim “mainstream”: Has become a “better” Muslim. Attends local mosque, follows the call to prayers, etc. Does not directly participate in jihad violence, however supports jihad violence and sharia law. May participate in “soft” jihad. Dangerous to the unbelievers.
Muslim violent jihadists: ISIS, etc. 100% devoted to Islam. Extremely dangerous to the unbelievers.
TheBuffster says
James Lincoln – It’s some members of the “Muslim Light” group who, while possibly growing more Islamic when they study the texts, might instead grow disillusioned and move down the road of apostasy. A lot of the apostates I’ve read or listened to intended to learn more about their religion so as to become more devout but instead lost their religion entirely.
James Lincoln says
TheBuffster,
It certainly is encouraging that some members of the “Muslim light” group, after studying the primary source texts, become disillusioned with Islam. Certainly, the more apostates the better.
Not sure how this breaks down percentagewise. In other words, what percent of the above “Muslim light” group become apostates and what percent move on to the “Muslim mainstream” category?
Probably very difficult to find statistics, as apostates do not generally dare to advertise their leaving Islam – for obvious reasons.
Thoughts?
StellaSaidSo says
@TheBuffster
Ditto my experience, both first and second-hand. Apostates are usually much better informed about Islam than the average observing Muslim. ‘Twas ever thus, according to the poet Omar Khayyam, who observed in the famous Rubaiyat, ‘…the unbeliever knows his Koran best…’
James Lincoln says
TheBuffster / StellaSaidSo,
It is true, apostates are much better informed about Islam than the average observing Muslim. This is also certainly true of the average bread-and-butter Jihad Watch reader/poster!
What are the reasons why one Muslim on the Muslim “light” spectrum would choose to become an apostate, while another Muslim would choose to become more mainstream? After all, they are both reading the same primary sourced texts?
My guess is that it depends heavily on their psychosocial environment, especially peer pressure, etc.
More importantly, what kind of a psychosocial environment can be created for the Muslims already in the Western world to choose apostasy over moving more mainstream?
StellaSaidSo says
Good questions, James Lincoln.
I think you are right about the importance of the psycho-social environment, but I suspect that IQ is the major factor. I have never encountered a stupid apostate.
With regard to creating an environment in which Muslims are encouraged to freely question Islam, I fear that – in some places at least – we may have left our run too late. Had we limited the intake from the start, dispersed them rather than allowing enclaves to develop, strictly enforced our laws, prohibited foreign funding for mosques, and been less willing to accommodate unreasonable demands, we might have stood a chance.
On a brighter note, I have it on good authority that there are many Muslims who are secret apostates, waiting for the opportunity to break free. We must avoid alienating these potential allies and friends, and offer support where we can.
James Lincoln says
StellaSaidSo,
You are one smart cookie.
You are correct, the more appropriate term would been “biopsychosocial”.
You are absolutely correct regarding IQ. Muslim majority countries, as you well know, have significantly lower IQs than Western countries. Marriage to first cousins, a common practice, undoubtedly contributes to this – along with some additional morbidity regarding birth defects, etc.
As we all know, IQ in groups/countries, etc., always follows a bell curve. The average/high IQ Muslims are on the right side of the curve and are more likely to become apostates. The problem is this: IQ cannot be changed, but the response may be influenced to a degree by psychosocial factors.
You are absolutely correct regarding how the problem of Muslim migration should’ve been handled from the start. Although some very limited Muslim migration to Western countries would have helped, along with your other well-made points, I don’t believe that Islam in any way shape or manner belongs in Western societies.
That being said, Muslim apostates who can integrate and contribute to their new Western countries are absolutely welcome. And the secret apostates should be supported.
Thank you for the dialogue.
StellaSaidSo says
Thankyou, James Lincoln, for your thoughtful comments and kind words. I agree entirely that Islam does not belong in Western societies. History shows that small numbers of Muslims can be absorbed (provided they are not of the fundamentalist type) but I very much doubt that the vast majority of recent 3rd world immigrants will ever be more than a drain on our resources. You are right about the high incidence of birth defects in Muslim communities. A study in the UK revealed that Pakistani immigrants, who at the time accounted for 3% of the UK pop’n, produced 33% of birth defects. Unsurprisingly, the highest incidence of first-cousin marriages occurs in Pakistan.
jule says
Apostasy is very difficult because there is always the unconscious or conscious FEAR that perhaps there is an Allah who will be very angry at them, not to mention the family or country-depending on where they live. When one is born into this and everyone around you co signs it, you think its probably true. Also, All are dangerous because of the demanded loyalty with monetary and political support no matter what they actually know or even believe. They have to go along with the crowd and never ever criticize any of them….not even the worst actors or Imams.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ignorant Amil imani has just reproduced what Mr spencer has been ranting that he is presenting truth about Islam while it is just concocted lies against Islam by the orientalists and mithraist christian evangelist liars debunked for long he have been repeating. In many of my previous comments I stressed the points that the terrorists -from whose Mr spencer drew his conclusion that Islam is inherently violent- hold perverted interpretations of Islamic sources on jihad fighting. I said jîhad fighting is not synonymous with terrorism in the sense of killing non-combatant civilian population as terrorists groups do ,and the general in Islam is peace, fighting is an exceptional circumstance.Those Who care shall go to class to obtain sufficient standard of learning to be able to discern what Islamic sources truly teach, not trial and error as Mr spencer and Co have been doing . In other words, just as you have to go to medical school for you to be a doctor, you have to be taught about Islamic sources for you to able to discern from them, not mere reading the books on the subject.
As Ignorant Imani also copied from Mr spencer, he erred where he repeated that lie that meccan suras are peaceful while later madinan suras are violent. As I said the general rule in Islam is peace and this rule has been discerned from both meccan and madinan suras. As such, there is nothing like laundering when people like George W Bush who said Islam is inherently peaceful, but hijacked by ignorant people to make it look inherently violent.
Mac-101 says
I always enjoy your comments. Do you actually believe them or are you paid to write them, or perhaps they are in jest or even paid for by Robert Spencer to demonstrate illogical Islamic thought? Please answer me this, Is one of the 99 names of Allah “The Great Deceiver”?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mac-101,it is your satan god you call Holy Spirit who is greatest deceives you to infuse Roman paganism of mithraism into what Jesus taught.You and Holy Spirit will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever. Tell your satan god to approach me, i will kick him on his face to get him running away from you.
Mac-101 says
Ibrahim, you did NOT answer my question, is one of the 99 names for Allah ‘The Great Deceiver”?
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An honest question, is it NOT?
FYI says
The concept of the Holy Spirit that the islamic troll keeps on about is something revealed in that “mithraist” Gospel ,a book which allah claims he gave Jesus in koran 5 v 46
IN koran 5 v 47,allah says “whoso judgeth not which allah hath revealed:such are evil livers”
So a muslim who does not accept what “allah hath revealed”..{the BIBLE..} is “an evil liver”
In koran 10:94,allah tells muhammed to consult the “Scripture that was before thee” i.e the BIBLE, if in doubt.
allah could not do that if the Bible was defective.
So muslims are obliged to accept the Gospel which allah says- correctly-in koran 5 v47,confirms the Torah.And in that Gospel{which allah claims he wrote}are references to this Holy Spirit and a condemnation of anyone who blasphemes it,like for example,calling it satan.
So muslims who attack the Bible{which allah says he wrote}are no different to muslims who attack the koran{which allah says he wrote}
So that means,since allah claims he wrote the Bible,that allah is the originator of this “mithraist” Christianity …
James Lincoln says
Mac-101,
Do not expect Ibrahim to provide a clearly thought out, evidence-based answer to your question.
His postings indicate that he has severe mental health problems.
Mac-101 says
I kinda believe he is real. I assume English is a second or third language for him and he uses it well. It’s hard to believe that people do think this way, however after livin in Iraq and Afghanistan and traveling through the ME, there is a reason Islamic Paradises are the way they are, ISLAM!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Ignorant Amil imani has just reproduced what Mr spencer has been ranting that he is presenting truth about Islam while it is just concocted lies against Islam by the orientalists and mithraist christian evangelist liars debunked for long he have been repeating.
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Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed is–as always–unable to point to anything that Amil Imani has gotten wrong.
More:
In many of my previous comments I stressed the points that the terrorists -from whose Mr spencer drew his conclusion that Islam is inherently violent- hold perverted interpretations of Islamic sources on jihad fighting.
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Were this true, why wouldn’t Ibrahim itace muhammed be taking this up with his murderous coreligionists, rather than the good Anti-Jihadists here at Jihad Watch?
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I said jîhad fighting is not synonymous with terrorism in the sense of killing non-combatant civilian population as terrorists groups do ,and the general in Islam is peace, fighting is an exceptional circumstance.
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Uh…right. Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that Muslims have the right to slaughter any who don’t submit to Islam, so for him the “exceptional circumstance” is any case where Infidels are living in freedom, and not as dhimmis under Muslim conquest.
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Those Who care shall go to class to obtain sufficient standard of learning to be able to discern what Islamic sources truly teach, not trial and error as Mr spencer and Co have been doing . In other words, just as you have to go to medical school for you to be a doctor, you have to be taught about Islamic sources for you to able to discern from them, not mere reading the books on the subject.
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Note–again–that Ibrahim itace muhammed does not say what Robert Spencer and other Anti-Jihadists have gotten wrong–because he cannot point to anything.
Moreover, most Muslims have not “go to class”, either–is he saying that all of the millions of Muslims who haven’t gotten degrees from somewhere like Azhar are unable to practice Islam?
For that matter, does Ibrahim itace muhammed himself fall into this category? Inquiring minds want to know…
More:
As Ignorant Imani also copied from Mr spencer, he erred where he repeated that lie that meccan suras are peaceful while later madinan suras are violent. As I said the general rule in Islam is peace and this rule has been discerned from both meccan and madinan suras.
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Actually, most of the Qur’an is riven with violence–but yes, the abrogated Meccan Suras are in general less violent than the later Medinan Suras whose diktats take precedence.
It is notable that the vicious “Sura of the Sword”–Qur’an 9:5–is the penultimate Sura of the Qur’an.
More:
As such, there is nothing like laundering when people like George W Bush who said Islam is inherently peaceful, but hijacked by ignorant people to make it look inherently violent.
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The whole “Islam is a religion of peace” meme only dates to 1930–from a Taqiyya-spewing article from a magazine in India. Muslims have never considered their vicious creed a “religion of peace”.
Moreover, note that Ibrahim itace muhammed himself has affirmed that Islam teaches child “marriage”, forced marriage, murder for ‘blasphemy’, murder for apostasy, rape of Infidels, “Honor Killing”, slavery and sex slavery, mass slaughter and the genocide of the Jews.
How “peaceful” is any of this?
More, in reply to Mac:
mac-101,it is your satan god you call Holy Spirit who is greatest deceives you to infuse Roman paganism of mithraism into what Jesus taught.You and Holy Spirit will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever. Tell your satan god to approach me, i will kick him on his face to get him running away from you.
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And now he’s back to ranting about “mithraism” and kicking the Holy Spirit…
StellaSaidSo says
Which Koran are you reading, Ibrahim? It seems to have quite a lot of pages missing. The one where the raving lunatic Mohammed says ‘I have been made victorious through terror’, for example.
libertyORdeath says
“and the general in Islam is peace, fighting is an exceptional circumstance”
I was determined not to feed the troll but this may be the single most ludicrous statement he has ever posted.
Even here at jihad watch we are subjected to the illogical propaganda of political islam…they will never give up unless eradicated completely. We watched the taqqiya of the post WWI ummah explode into war after war, conflict after conflict and intifada after intifada as soon as they felt powerful enough to act.
You cant really blame the ignorant ummah when they take their lessons from a pedophile warlord and a “god” who is “the best of deceivers”
libertyORdeath says
BTW, remember that peace in islam consists of living off of the jizyah while you work your infidel slave and have sex with your infidel sex slave.
What a paradise allah has in store!!!
jule says
Its pure and simple bigoted, persecuting and supremacist.
dan christensen says
Islam misunderstands the determination of the West.
If and when the West becomes too hard pressed by islam, the West can always nuke Mekka, before islam nukes Rome.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ignorant Amil imani has just reproduced what Mr spencer has been ranting that he is presenting truth about Islam while it is just concocted lies against Islam by the orientalists and mithraist christian evangelist liars debunked for long. For you to be able to discern From Islamic sources and present the truth about Islam you have to go to class and a standard of learning in the same way one has to go to medical school for him to qualified as a doctor, not mere readings of the books and assume what they teach.As i stated in many of my previous comments, the general rule in Islam is peace, fighting is the last resort. Mr Amil imani like Mr spencer and co made grave error where they said meccans suras are peaceful while later madinan suras are violent. But the general rule of peace was derived from both meccan and Medinan suras . The intellectual sickness from Mr spencer and Co is that they make too much assumptions. They assume that since it was at Medina that Muslims were given permission to defend themselves, it means Medinan suras permit violence. The question is right of self-defense an encouragement of violence?
#ProudAmericanInfidel says
Then PLEASE tell me why my Christian friend from Iran, as well as many other Christians, have to live in fear EVERY SINGLE DAY?! Also, please explain why Sayyid Ali Hosseini Khamenei, leader of Iran, had the Sepah, otherwise known as the The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) (the Revolutionary Guardm, which is an evil group under their leader of Iran,recently have both Iran soldiers as well as citizens killed in the streets during a celebration? This was a staged killing by the IRGC. BECAUSE Sayyid Ali Hoseini Khamenel because he is lying to us in order to get financial help from the U.S, saying it is to help Iran, when in actuality, it is to further fund the IRGC and other terrorist groups in Iran.
eduardo odraude says
Self-defense! Self-defense!?? Did the Muslims in the first Islamic century “defend themselves” all the way across North Africa and into Spain, and at the same time all the way to India? That’s a very interesting kind of “self-defense”.
The thing is, since Islam makes so many Muslims think themselves “the best of peoples” (Qur’an) and non-Muslims “the worst of creatures”, (Qur’an) and since so many Muslims think they have the right to subjugate the whole world, no wonder you call it “self-defense” when you attack everyone in sight with swords chopping heads over thousands of miles. Everyone makes you feel offended if we don’t bow down and kiss your a**. That’s what you call “self-defense.” In other words, you are a lunatic.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed believes that all Muslim savagery is “self defense”…
Walter Sieruk says
With many Americans Islamic is very much misunderstood. For American of different ages view Islam as a non- violent religion which had only “hijacked by criminals for politics” it’s very strange then that “criminals” are so very interested in “politics” that they would willing give up their lives committing suicide /homicides attacks of the sake of “politics.” The only way that this may be explained in the term of “politics is that Islam is in essence, a religious /political Sharia law based system. As so well explained in brief way, by the Muslim tyrant who and ruled Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini when he stated that “All Islam is politics.” [1]
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq , page 332.
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James Lincoln says
It’s much more comforting to believe that Islam is a nonviolent religion, hijacked by a small percentage of criminals, etc., i.e. the propaganda of the mainstream media.
The truth is much more disconcerting.
gravenimage says
+1
jule says
and not just the violence but very importantly the Bigotry taught and who is Enemy! This kind of thing should never be taught to growing babies, the very young, teens or older adults. A Religion that sets up hatreds is pure BS.
Rolf Wittwer says
How any woman can ever love such fanatic guys as shown on the photo?
There are millions of them!
CogitoErgoSum says
I imagine each one those guys has two, three or four wives and each one of those wives could have three or more children, all living in a country that receives U.S. military and economic aid (based on the Morsi placards and the flag in the background I’d say the country is Egypt, which had a birthrate of 3.31 as of 2015). The guys in the picture certainly seem intent on making sure everyone understands the Quran the same way they do.
Walter Sieruk says
Yes, in the United States of America many Americans do ,indeed misunderstand Islam. For a large number of citizens of the USA misunderstand Islam so greatly that they believe the word “Islam” means “peace.” Likewise, they view Islam as “a non-violent religion.”
As for the first was,just mentioned, it’s a good idea not to take at face value the claim that the word Islam means “peace.” For example, the ENCARTA WORLD ENGLISH DICTIONARY copyright 1999 defines Islam as “submission” based on the word “aslama” meaning “he surrendered.” Given the definition it’s an odd phenomenon that after about fourteen hundred years starting on September 12, 2001 the meaning changed from “submission” to “peace.” It’s very well known that if the police are questioning someone and he changes his story something is wrong. Nevertheless, when it comes to Islam no one gets suspicious of the change. The jihadists brag that they will win the war against the West by using the Western ignorance and naive gullible mindset on the subject of Islam against us. It seems that they do have some basis in that claim since so many Westerners are beguiled by the Muslim disinformation campaign.
As for the second way that Islam is misunderstood many young people and strangely many older people, who are Westerns who in the United States as well other countries of the West are, no doubt sincere but very misinformed ,as in misled, therefore say ,because they believe it, that “Islam is a peaceful and non-violent religion .” To those people the first and supreme Ayatollah, who was the very head this current Islamic regime of Iran knows better stated about how he feels about those naïve Westerns .For he declared “Islam grew with blood….Islam is a religion of blood for the infidels” He also said “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war….I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.” [1]
So, in other words Ayatollah felt nothing but arrogant contempt for those people who say that his religion “Is a peaceful religion” and understand that they in ignorant and uninformed.
Therefore the West needs to wake up to the reality of the truth about the actual violent essence of this religion.
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM, pages 336,339.
Walter Sieruk says
Islam is is indeed, misunderstood many decent sincere but naive Westerns who view Muslim terrorists as “men who aren’t real Muslims because Islam is peaceful and non-violent .” Those cruel ,vicious and murderous jihadists thugs who compose ISIS are so very brutal and deadly that they even want to murder people. In reality those malicious jihadists of that jihad entity, ISIS, are actually putting in to the practice ,with all their ruthless actions, the violence and killing that is part of the teaching of the “holy book” of Islam ,the Koran. Which contain the doctrine of extreme violent force for the advancement of Islam. As seen in the Koran, for example, 2:191,4:89. 5:33. 9:5,111,123. 47:4. So in spite of the strong denials by many, ISIS is an actual Islamic organization. Likewise the malicious, bloodthirsty violence jihadists who make up ISIS are real Muslims. Nevertheless, there are some who might , understandably, wonder and then ask “Just how can those jihadists of ISIS ,being so very religious , also at the time also be so very malice-filled ,unfeeling and deadly ? “ The answer to that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible teaches that there are some people who are extremely heartless, cold, callous and dangerous because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. [ K.J.V.] In this case of the members of ISIS this “hot iron” is Islam.
eduardo odraude says
Notice the statement does not say the people with more favorable attitudes toward Muslims have more education about Islam. They just have more “education.”
But we know that apart from STEM, a great deal of “education” today only enhances and strengthens narrowness of mind.
Though I’m far from agreeing with all the positions espoused William F. Buckley, he made sense when he said he would rather be governed by the first thousand people randomly picked from the telephone book than by a thousand college professors.
Walter Sieruk says
Not wishing to be overly blunt but many Americans really do misunderstand Islam. This is because they fail to see or understand they there are things wrong with it, many things wrong with this religion This is because of the sad reality that many Americans are just too lazy, ignorant uninformed and outright distracted by many things that are rather unimportant in the long run.
In the book about the brutal and deadly jihad entity ISIS by Erick Stakelbeck which is entitled ISIS EXPOSED on page 78 in informs the reader that concerning this post 9/11 world with the threats and dangers for Islam’s violent ,and many times lethal ,militant jihad that “All of this means we’ve entering a fighting a personal – new phase in radical Islam’s war on the United States Will Americans glance up from their smartphones and put down their video game consoles in time to notice ?” To add to this , there distraction which is sports . Some sports are Ok by some Americans take this frivolous hobby to the extreme. So much that they totally fail to see the whole picture about American in the things that really matter.
Therefore, on the topic of Islamic terrorism, sports and even Marxism. It then needs to be stated that Karl Marx was wrong when he wrote down his claim that “Religion is the opium of the people.” From years of first-hand observations I can keyboard the hypothesis that the real “opium of the people is sports”. For many Americans refuse to buy, read and study books about Islam and its militant and stealth jihad. As, for example, by the author Mark Gabriel who was a former Muslim and now a Christian and wrote the book ISLAM AND TERRORISM. Other scholars of this topic many also be very informative .As the writer and scholar of Islamic terrorism as Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Erick Stakelbeck and Brigitte Gabriel. Instead in investing their time of the suspect of Islamic terrorism some American invest much of their time focused on sports. That of course is their prerogative. Nevertheless, this still shows some kind of misplaced values about what really matter. As in this indicates wrong priorities about what really important in life. As Brigitte Gabriel, who is the founder and head of http://www.actforamerica.org and wrote in her book which is entitled BECAUSE THEY HATE which reads “The West is ignorant and refuses to learn.”
Morpheus cloud says
Islam is a religion whose followers are tremendously brainwashed. They will do anything to achieve the koranic objective of complete Islamization of the world or Ummah. They have got a lot of money in their hands that they make use of to bribe or hook the politicians, the media and the social media so as to make conditions favorable for their growth. (Facebook banned my 3 accounts!). They fabricate reports so as to pacify and glorify Islam in the minds of the general public – all intended to make our children the future victims of Islam. Muslims are not worthy to be trusted as they believe that Allah even rewards them for cheating non-Muslims.
If anybody is interested to make someone quit Islam, this book has some key concepts written wearing the shoes of a Muslim and arguing against the very crux of Islam.
https://www.amazon.com/Dispelling-Islam-Understanding-scrutinizing-perspective-ebook/dp/B07HH9GG8H/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538287886&sr=8-2&keywords=dispelling+islam
Thanking you.
regards
jule says
why does the Qur’an always say ‘WE’….like We delivered you from the people of Pharaoh & WE divided the sea, WE appointed 40 nights for Moses, WE raised you up after your death, WE said it, WE did it, WE WE WE and it goes on through the whole book. who are ‘WE’ Where is the ONE creator? I Guess WE is not the words of Allah…not if he is we. If he isn’t the WE, who is talking words for him? They are not his words.
Vicky says
iprazhm It appears that muslims have even infiltrated the Pew Research Center…
New estimates show U.S. Muslim population continues to grow BY BESHEER MOHAMED JANUARY 3, 2018 “Since our first estimate of the size of the Muslim American population, the number of U.S. Muslims has been growing rapidly, albeit from a relatively low base. When we first conducted a study of Muslim Americans in 2007, we estimated that there were 2.35 million Muslims of all ages (including 1.5 million adults) in the U.S. By 2011, the number of Muslims had grown to 2.75 million (including 1.8 million adults). Since then, the Muslim population has continued to grow at a rate of roughly 100,000 per year, driven both by higher fertility rates among Muslim Americans as well as the continued migration of Muslims to the U.S.” By Besheer Mohamed – a senior researcher focusing on religion at Pew Research Center. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/03/new-estimates-show-u-s-muslim-population-continues-to-grow/
BESHEER MOHAMED, an member of the Pew Research team, is a seemingly ‘religion of peace’ muslim activist. At least on the tippy top surface.
Warmac9999 says
Here we are, ten years after the PEW study referenced. Am betting that even the supposedly educated now understand the danger represented by Islam – particularly the younger set who has to live for a very long time with the evil.
Kasey says
Surely it’ds time President Trump opened up on this one and called a spade a spade!
strong aingel says
Bush is not ignorant about islam, his namesake and family patriarchs’ Cousin wrote the first published work on islam (1837). The book pulls no pinches, and it I notable terms such as jihad and shari’ah do not even warrant a mention. As for better educated being more favourable to islam, what sort of nonsense is that? Common sense doesn’t require a degree, so the report that group are less inclined to be alert to islam proves only that possessing certificates dors not by any means assert intelligence, in fact it suggests that income and status colour ones world view, dangerously. The few dozen MP’s and luminaries who support “UAF” and therefore the moslem brotherhoods jihad tactics in the UK do not strike me as worthy of anything but traitors else incredibly thick people. The fact the UAF has been instrumental in suppressing the truth of CSE (at least) makes the support of that organisation a matter of very real concern for those of us who are apparently too ill educated to spot the difference between a spade and shovel.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Our Western “Education” (indoctrination) system these days is pure, excuse-making idolatry!
http://unclevladdi.blogspot.ca/2018/01/the-problem-of-mental-illness-solved.html
Obbop says
Repeatedly tested with IQ around the 112-118 range. Three college degrees. Raised in one of the most multicultural areas of the USA. Not raised in any religion, left to decide that for myself. Prefer non-fiction over fiction. Three college degrees… and I use the Web to battle Islam and am ready to take up arms to repel the barbarians. I will join my more and less educated patriots and there are armies of us to drive those barbarians back to their starting points.
Gjallarhornet says
If it is misunderstood or not depends on who you talk to. I, and many, many others, see islam as utter bullshit. Thus, we have understood islam correctly.
Amil Imani says
Even a cursory examination of Islam’s history and Islamic texts conclusively proves the exact opposite of peacefulness. Islam was and continues to be a movement of unbridled violence.
The Arabs who sallied out of the Arabian deserts did not fan out to the outside world with the Quran in one hand and flowers in the other, preaching love and peace from street corner to street corner, thereby capturing the hearts and minds of the people. Islam was forced on every people at the point of the sword and the imposition of backbreaking jazyyeh (special taxes) levied on those who were spared death and allowed to retain their religious beliefs. In spite of paying heavy Jazyyeh, the non-Muslims were treated, at best, as second-class citizens in their own homelands.
gravenimage says
+1
Im4truth4all says
Anyone who marries a 6 year child, plays doctor with her for 3 years and starts having sexual relations with her at nine is a maggot. This is the mohammadean’s hero – seemingly unbelieveable but true.
Bowen G says
The cost of apostasy from Islam in the UK
September 30, 2018
CCTV catches terrifying moment Christian father-of-six was brutally set upon by hooded thugs with a pickaxe handle who targeted him as a ‘blasphemer’ because he converted from Islam
⦁ Nissar Hussain suffered broken a kneecap, fractured arm and concussion
⦁ The religiously motivated assault was caught on Mr Hussain’s home CCTV
⦁ Mr Hussain from Bradford converted from Islam to Christianity in 1996
⦁ Father-of-six said neighbours see him and his family as ‘blasphemers’
CCTV has captured the moment a father-of-six was brutally set upon by hooded thugs with a pickaxe handle outside his home because he converted from Islam to Christianity.
Nissar Hussain, from Bradford, suffered a broken kneecap, a fractured forearm and a concussion in the attack on Tuesday.
The 49-year-old is currently in Bradford Royal Infirmary following surgery after the unprovoked assault outside his home in Manningham.
The episode was caught on Mr Hussain’s home CCTV and is being reviewed by West Yorkshire Police, who have confirmed they are treating it as a religious hate crime.
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Mr Hussain went outside at around 5pm to move his car outside Lawcroft House Police Station, which he has been forced to do after his vehicle has been damaged over six times in a year.
He was attacked by two men, who suddenly stopped their car on the other side of the road and got out to begin the assault.
One man used pickaxe handle, while the other rained on Mr Hussain with a number of punches and kicks.
The men, who Mr Hussain was unable to identify, were only stopped when Mr Hussain’s Polish neighbours chased them away.
‘I felt like I was holding on for dear life,’ said Mr Hussain, a professional landlord.
‘It all happened so fast that I was unable to react. I remember just walking out of the gate and putting my foot off the kerb. Next thing I saw was a pickaxe coming towards me.
‘On instinct I tried to cover my head with my arms but the force of the blow knocked me back and my heel clipped the kerb to send me to the ground.
‘I also hit my head on the wall which gave me a concussion but I was still conscious. I continued to block their shots to my head with my arms while on the ground but as soon as they realized that, they just began attacking my legs.’
The 49-year-old is currently in Bradford Royal Infirmary following surgery after the unprovoked assault outside his home in Manningham
Mr Hussain has said his family has been living in fear since they appeared in a Channel 4 documentary about the mistreatment of Muslim converts in 2008.
He claims they have been subjected to a tirade of abuse and threats to their lives, as well as thousands of pounds worth of physical damage to their home and cars.
Mr Hussain has also previously been attacked in the street before and has accused the police of failing to help him and his family.
Police have been called out on a number of occasions over the years but this is the first time they have classed an incident a religious hate crime.
The family moved to their current address after experiencing problems at their previous home in Bradford, where they claimed they were driven out by some Muslim residents.
Mr Hussain said they were first welcomed into the street but that all changed after the TV documentary revealed they had converted from Islam to Christianity.
He said: ‘This last year has been the most terrifying. My family has to be brave as soon as they leave the front door. This country is a civilized society and we are not in Pakistan. We have the right to go about our daily lives and not be threatened because of our religion.
He claims they have been subjected to a tirade of abuse and threats to their lives, as well as thousands of pounds worth of physical damage to their home and cars
‘We are classed as blasphemers by some members the Muslim community. They call scum and treat us as second-class citizens. I still do not regret speaking out in the documentary as this is an issue for converts up and down the country. I should not have to be concerned for my own safety as well as my family. These people are leaving us with no human dignity.
We have been looking to move for a long time now but we should not be subjected to such abuse by certain individuals in this community.’
Detective Inspector Andy Howard, of Bradford District CID, said initial investigations suggested is was a targeted attack and it is being treated as a religious hate crime.
Witnesses to the attack or anyone with information should contact police on 101 and quote reference number 13150 471087.
Attack and video from 2015:
Nissar Hussain a Bradford Christian brutally attacked for quitting Islam
[ https://youtu.be/j9GCZb0Pjr0 ]
The man who was attacked in the above video recently approached Gates of Vienna, and asked them to publicize a video of a talk the victim gave about apostasy in the UK. The audio was extremely low, and there was background noise as the video was recorded at a distance to the speaker.
I did the best I could with it and tried to make it more listenable. The results are below:
A talk by Nissar Hussain, Legalize Apostasy
[ https://youtu.be/c9_T-89rNfU ]
However some people find the results of these kind of filters hard to listen to. So the original is here below:
A talk by Nissar Hussain
[ https://youtu.be/EJkQYM7-Y0w ]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3325273/CCTV-catches-terrifying-moment-father-six-brutally-set-hooded-thugs-pickaxe-handle-targeted-blasphemer-converted-Islam-Christianity.html
gravenimage says
Yes–even in Britain they are not safe.
jule says
I would like to see this site maintain a polite, civil and accurate assessment of the damage Islam actually does and stay away from any excuse to be called nothing but a juvenile hate site. Thats what I think these last comments about monkeys & snakes are & hold no real value but actually discredit us. This issue is too important to be discredited.
gravenimage says
Is Islam Misunderstood?
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The problem Muslims have is that more and more Infidels are understanding Islam and the terrible threat it presents.
jule says
How come Pew doesn’t talk about people who have read the Qur’an/Hadiths, some history and listened to sermons of today and what ‘officially’ comes out of Cairo U. or Iran with the 12er’s ? Pew did not seem to interview any Educated people but only those vaguely aware of some religion called Islam which supposedly came from Abraham. They did not interview anyone who actually knew anything about it. And it is not just violence that is so objectionable but the BIGOTRY and teaching of hatred, enemies, and Supremacy…..plus that so many cultural traditions are actually The Words From Allah, directly. How can we be so superficial or accept such superficiality?
gravenimage says
Sadly, Jule, a lot of people in the West still haven’t read the Qur’an and Hadiths.