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Malaysia: Two women caned as lesbians, state Sharia official says punishment “in line with provisions in the Quran”

Sep 4, 2018 11:17 am By Robert Spencer

“Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse of your women – bring against them four from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them a way.” (Qur’an 4:15)

“Caning process of lesbians misunderstood, says Terengganu exco,” by Faiz Zainudin, FMT, September 4, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

PETALING JAYA: The Terengganu government today defended the state Shariah High Court’s decision to hold a public caning of two women for lesbian sex, saying critics should not make assumptions without witnessing the form and method of carrying out the sentence.

Satiful Bahari Mamat, the state executive councillor for shariah implementation, education and higher studies, said the caning was different from the harsher whipping imposed by civil courts.

“The critics may not have understood or witnessed the punishment but made an assumption based on civil laws which provide for harsher penalties.

“That is why caning under civil laws is done in prison and on the bare buttocks.

“However, under shariah laws, the offender is caned while seated and with the aurat covered, and the caning is done lightly because the objective is to educate,” he told FMT.

The two women, aged 22 and 32, pleaded guilty to attempting to have same-sex relations and were caned six times each at the Shariah High Court in Kuala Terengganu on Monday, watched by about 100 people….

Islamic Renaissance Front director Ahmad Farouk Musa described the caning as inhumane and a form of humiliation, adding that the country was “regressing to the Middle Ages”.

“Although it happened in a state not governed by the Pakatan Harapan federal government, such degrading laws should not be allowed in this country,” he said, referring to PAS-ruled Terengganu.

Satiful called Farouk’s criticism contempt of court….

“The offenders in this case were given time to file an appeal but they chose not to do it. In Islam, opportunity is given to the offenders to repent, to defend themselves and they are punished only after they admit guilt,” he said.

Referring to comments by Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Mujahid Yusof Rawa that the presence of outsiders during the caning in Terengganu needed to be looked into, Satiful said the process was in line with provisions in the Quran.

He said the Quran stated that punishment should be carried out in public for the purpose of educating them.

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  1. elee says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 11:36 am

    Hey Muslims! Women are human beings!

    Hey left! You wanna try telling them?

  2. StellaSaidSo says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 11:41 am

    In case you did not know, Malaysia is now a vassal state of Saudi Arabia. All those generous ‘investments’ have paid off handsomely.

    • christianblood says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 11:59 am

      StellaSaidSo posted

      (..In case you did not know, Malaysia is now a vassal state of Saudi Arabia..)

      True and by extension, a vassal state of the U$A! As for the two caned lesbian Malaysian women, well, the US should provide them fast-tracked “human rights” entry visas so that they immigrate to the US where their sexual “rights” will be highly respected! (Sarc off).

      • Rarely says

        Sep 4, 2018 at 12:16 pm

        One can only imagine how many women would gladly leave islam IF only they could leave the house. Probably millions and millions.
        Keep the women under lock and key or there’d be no islam.

      • Buraq says

        Sep 4, 2018 at 12:40 pm

        @ christianblood

        Name one, just one example, of anyone in the USA being publicly caned for a same-sex relationship! Just one.

        Otherwise, shut up, you clown!

        • christianblood says

          Sep 4, 2018 at 2:17 pm

          Buraq

          Did I say US cans homosexuals? Read my comment again.
          We all know that the US and the West in general love and esteem
          homosexuals, perverts and and Islamists and even give them especial privileges while they hate and demonize Christians and mistreat! More below:

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/minnesota-ex-muslim-arrested-handcuffed-over-muslims-complaint-not-permitted-to-discuss-religion-in-the-mall

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 4, 2018 at 11:21 pm

          Peter, not to minimize what you went through, but caning under Shari’ah is *much* harsher, and typically leaves horrible scars. Victims have died from it.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 4, 2018 at 11:25 pm

          christianblood has never had any problem with Muslims brutalizing and torturing gay people. He is fine with Putin winking at concentrataion camps for homosexuals in Chechnya.

          “Muslim Chechnya opens first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/muslim-chechyna-opens-first-concentration-camp-for-homosexuals-since-hitler

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 7, 2018 at 7:45 pm

          True, Peter.

      • Baucent says

        Sep 5, 2018 at 4:37 am

        warped logic and incorrect factually CB. Why do you even bother to comment?

        • christianblood says

          Sep 5, 2018 at 8:03 am

          Baucent

          What are you talking about? Please show me where my logic is warped and is incorrect! Let us deal with facts not with nonsensical propaganda, make-belief issues!

        • J D S says

          Sep 5, 2018 at 1:01 pm

          School caneing and home caneing in the west is much different than in Muslim lands under sharia….Now don’t get me wrong I’m not for beating children…ANYEHERE…and as a child it was hard for me to understand “this is going to hurt me worse than it hurts you” while I was being punished for something I should have not done..After some growing up and becoming a parent I understood that “hurt” feeling that caring parents have when punishing their children with a spanking or switch, as it was called back in the day.
          At the time of my punishment it may have hurt and for a time if it was a teacher that wielded the switch or whatever, i felt hatred but later that was gone and a lesson learned.
          Today’s “time out’s” have left many kids with no “lesson learned” and running rampant and then into adulthood sith the. same principles..
          Mind you, not all, but many.
          I’m thankful for the corrections I had at an early age along with Christian upbringing at home and at school as well.
          So sorrowful that with today’s world Those teaching/learning days are gone forever.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Sep 7, 2018 at 7:36 pm

        Christianblood…The exact location isn’t mentioned but a new club for homosexual males is supposedly a raging success in Saudi Arabia. Maybe soon there’ll be something similar for lesbian women – I’ve heard they often secretly turn to one another for emotional and physical relief as Saudi men find their own gender far more satisfying:

        Finally Islam and Saudi Arabia Embrace Gay Rights…Change Is Coming

  3. CogitoErgoSum says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    If these women had undergone female circumcision (removal of the clitoris) could they really have been said to have engaged in sexual intercourse? Even leaving that aside, four people came forward as witnesses? Why should such a private matter between two women be anyone’s business except the two women involved? Were they taking part in some sort of orgy with a number of people involved … yet they were the only two punished?

    • Sun says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 1:52 pm

      Key reason is to scare women and tyrannize deep personal friendships. Women might join together and talk about the oppression of women in Islam…

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 11:36 pm

      Not all women in Malaysia suffer FGM.

      And while obviously lesbianism is sexual, it can also, like heterosexual sex, be about love and companionship.

  4. Wellington says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    No surprise here. And where is the Western Left condemning this? Why, they’ll be silent again because just about the worst thing you can be per Leftthink is an Islamophobe.

  5. tedh754 says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    Linda Sarsour was unavailable for comment.

  6. Halal Bacon says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    Cane you Long Time 🙂

    • PRCS says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 6:25 pm

      Loved that movie.

  7. revereridesagain says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    “…adding that the country was “regressing to the Middle Ages”. “Regressing”, huh? I’d say that’s long been accomplished. In fact, it probably never really left the Dark Ages, never mind the Middle. Saudi Arabia certainly never did. The Left won’t defend them against their precious Islam — if they won’t defend victims of acid attacks, “honor” killings, forced child marriages, and FGM, why would they bother with a little thing like public beating of lesbians for something that should be nobody’s business but theirs. But then in Islam everything anyone does is the business of every effing Muzzie on the face of the earth, isn’t it?

  8. Renate says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    I don’t know what the Islamists would do in the West with all the gay pride parades. They’d have a grand old time rounding all the gays and lesbians up to cane them or throw them off the tops of buildings. Punishment as far as the eye can see. Like Saudi Arabia, they’d have to hire more executioners all the time.

    • David M says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 9:17 pm

      Shows how stupid all the leftist women who wear hijabs at rallies are doesn’t it.

      • Renate says

        Sep 4, 2018 at 10:20 pm

        Homosexuals must be in denial about Islam. Islam wants them gone.

        • gungfugilman says

          Sep 5, 2018 at 6:18 am

          A lot of people are in denial, Islam wants us all gone. Unless of course we pay the jizya and keep ourselves subdued.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 5, 2018 at 12:47 am

      I think we have gotten a taste of what they would do with the terrible Jihad terror attack on a gay club in Orlando.

  9. duh swami says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 3:26 pm

    When beating such a woman in public, make sure you show not one iota of compassion…Allah will be watching you for that…Shouting Allahu Akbar with every blow also helps…

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 5, 2018 at 12:59 am

      True, Swami–Islamic texts specifically warn Muslims not show compassion to their victims.

      • duh swami says

        Sep 5, 2018 at 3:44 pm

        What’s that, 24:2? I forget….

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 7, 2018 at 7:50 pm

          Yep–that’s it, Swami:

          https://quran.com/24/2

  10. DHazard says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    What was the testimony from the “four witnesses”?;

    “I was sleeping under the bed with my 3 room mates and then I heard a lot of squeaking. When we got up to leave for work we saw the two parties lying in bed. We didn’t actually see them f…ing but it couldn’t have been the wife’s pet donkey”.

    “My Muslim bros asked me over for Kuffar Night (when you get to do everything a kuffar does). One thing led to another and all the chicks started
    engaging in prohibited sexual activities. I did not participate, I just watched.”

    “I saw those two women shopping together and then I saw them driving with each other”

    “They have to be gay. They’re over 11 and not married.”

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 5, 2018 at 1:19 am

      True, DHazard. The “four witnesses” thing is pretty selective. It is often evoked to go after rape victims, since without the witnesses it is assumed that the victim is guilty of “Zina”.

      But in cases like this one, or similar ones where “adultery” (often something as innocent as chatting between unmarried people), suddenly the need for those four witnesses disappears.

      The main victims are women and gay (or suspected gay) men. Otherwise, men usually get a pass in Islam.

      • Joe says

        Sep 5, 2018 at 8:07 am

        Same sex rape is okay, though.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 7, 2018 at 9:12 pm

          True, Joe.

  11. pemba says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    Quran is considered as religious book, so how can a religion set punishment according to offence.

    Most religious book states, if a person does bad things he is sinner, and god will punish him after death.
    no where in these books it is written that mankind can whip, or stone, or throw human from the roof.

    What I feel is QURAN is not the book of religion; so Islam is not a religion.Followers of Islam are
    Muslims and they should quite Islam and burn Quran ASAP.

    Mohammed must be drunk or doing drugs at the time of writing Quran

    • revereridesagain says

      Sep 4, 2018 at 4:59 pm

      “Mohammed must be drunk or doing drugs at the time of writing Quran.”

      Safe bet! Although a combination of insanity and power-lust can attain the same results if you keep at it long enough and, unfortunately, he did. As did his followers, down through the centuries. That’s why we’re in this mess.

      Special to DHazard, thanks that’s the best laugh I’ve had all day!

  12. IanB says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    Where are the gay pride protests about this by the Western LBGT(WXYZ) crowd?

    • Giacomo Latta says

      Sep 5, 2018 at 9:19 am

      There’s no law that says you can’t be gay and simultaneous be cowardly, a republican, unfeeling, racist, etc.

      • Carolyne says

        Sep 5, 2018 at 9:47 am

        And there is no law which says you can’t be gay and simultaneously be cowardly, a democrat, a liberal, unfeeling, racist, etc.

  13. sidney penny says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 8:36 pm

    MMM

    Moderate Modern Malaysia

  14. gravenimage says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Malaysia: Two women caned as lesbians, state Sharia official says punishment “in line with provisions in the Quran”
    ……………………

    I guess we should be glad that they were not stoned to death.

    God,I hate Islam.

  15. Relic says

    Sep 4, 2018 at 11:21 pm

  16. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Sep 5, 2018 at 4:47 am

    The punishment for whoredom is lapidation (stoning to death) possibly only if the offenders were married.
    Either way,I can’t see Dirty Old Moe actually opposing lesbo behavior in his own harem houris LOL! Well, only if, instead of keeping them occupied until he got home, they chose to commit same INSTEAD of with him!

  17. Giacomo Latta says

    Sep 5, 2018 at 9:16 am

    So these ladies are not going to appeal. What’s wrong? Do they not think they can be ”uncaned”? Let me guess, Malaysian law is based on sharia law.

  18. Carolyne says

    Sep 5, 2018 at 9:43 am

    All Muslim men are either pedophiles or homosexualsor both, although they call it “Holy.”. Its permitted and encouraged by the Koran and practiced by Mohammed himself. They might not practice it, but they know they want to.

  19. Panmelia says

    Sep 5, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    The only solution to the threat of islam is to outlaw its practice in every Western country and ban the immigration of muslims into every Western country. Of course, the army and police would have to be strengthened to prevent disturbances when the mosques were closed, but every muslim would be given the chance to fly back to their or their parents’ islamic homeland if they wanted to continue being enslaved by the most immoral and inhumane religio-political ideology on earth.
    With most muslims repatriated to the 50 or so islamic countries in the world (all stolen by terrorism and subjugated over the last 1400 years), the violence between sects would escalate and possibly result in them cancelling each other out.
    The Christians still living in the islamic countries should be the only people allowed to migrate to the West for their safety and survival.
    Unfortunately, the leaders of the Western world, with the honourable exception of President Trump, are too stupid, lazy, deluded, or in the process of being enriched and corrupted by muslim countries or individuals to carry out these survival measures. If there were a global epidemic, they’d have no choice but to take drastic measures, but it seems that the spread of a pernicious belief system that wants to wipe out all others does not strike them as a dire emergency.

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