The worst aspect of this is that many, many people in the West will read that the Muslim migrant stabbed people because of “repeated insults to God, the Koran and Islam’s Prophet Mohammed,” and will conclude that we simply must not insult Allah, the Qur’an, and Muhammad. Few, and still fewer in positions of power, understand the importance of the freedom of speech, and the dangers to a free society of outlawing insults to any group. Submission is rapidly becoming a habit in the West. Cowardice is near-universal, and courage is derided and ridiculed as poking these poor dears in the eye and needlessly provoking them. It isn’t hard to see where all this is going to end up.
“Afghan migrant says ‘insults to Islam’ motivated Amsterdam attack,” MailOnline, September 4, 2018:
An Afghan migrant who stabbed two US tourists in Amsterdam has said ‘insults to Islam’ and far-right politician Geert Wilders were the reasons for the attack, prosecutors have revealed.
The suspect, identified as Jawed S., 19, is accused of knifing the two 38-year-olds after he arrived at Amsterdam’s Central Station on an international train having travelled from his home in Germany.
The Americans were not targeted because of their nationality, which the alleged attacker did not know, prosecutors said. Instead, his grievance was with the European country where the assault took place, they said.
The alleged attacker is said to have told police he acted over what he called repeated insults to God, the Koran and Islam’s Prophet Mohammed.
‘It is apparent from his statements that he believes that in the Netherlands, the Prophet Muhammad, the Quran, Islam and Allah are repeatedly insulted,’ prosecutors said, noting that the young Afghan man specifically mentioned Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, who is well known for his fierce anti-Islam rhetoric.
‘From the suspect’s statements so far, it is clear the man had a terrorist motive … and that he travelled to the Netherlands for that reason,’ the prosecutors’ said.
Wilders last week called off a planned contest for cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad following death threats and concerns other people could be put at risk. Prosecutors said the suspect did not mention the contest in his statements.
Wilders reacted with a tweet, writing: ‘Muslim terrorists hate our way of life and our freedoms. They answer criticism of Islam with violence.’…
Buraq says
Reason versus Excuse. Islamic law states that insults to Islam or its ‘prophet’ justify killing. Secular law states that there might be an understandable reason for committing a crime, nevertheless the crime remains a crime. The reason for committing the crime cannot also serve as an excuse.
Jawid S needs to have that explained to him in Court before being put away for the rest of his natural life.
Lydia Church says
Ugh, the ironies again!
This crazy behavior is exactly WHY people insult islam,
and RIGHTLY SO!!!
islam IS the offense!
James Lincoln says
My brother and his wife, both professionals, recently booked a vacation to Amsterdam.
They are both liberal, Hillary supporters, but I would not categorize them as “far left”. Their news sources are almost exclusively mainstream media.
I casually mentioned something to the effect of using “caution” in their travels, particularly in regards to the influx of Muslim migrants. They both gave me looks of disbelief, but stopped short of calling me racist, Islamophobic, etc.
Their trip turned out to be uneventful, in regards to safety concerns, which only reinforced their opinion of me being overly “paranoid”.
Mark Berlinger says
Everywhere there’s Islam it’s the same supremacist thing:
Since the Tabuk raids Muhammad defined targets of violence only by their religious belief.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/games/discover-truth/verses/9-29.aspx
StellaSaidSo says
I have had the same experience, James Lincoln. The well-off can avoid the worst of the trouble spots, They use taxis rather than trains and buses, they go on guided tours, and they stay in middle-class areas. They need never be accosted on a French train by gangs of Moroccan youths, or witness a Somali peeing in the doorway of an ancient church. They think we imagine such things.
James Lincoln says
StellaSaidSo,
Interestingly, that is exactly what happened. They are highly educated, well off, took taxis / guided tours, and stayed in five-star hotels.
They are very nice people, not radical far left, people that you would like to have as neighbors, but they are very naïve regarding Islam.
And, yes we get along.
Roger woodhouse says
“Naievity’is the curse of the West.All the education in the world can’t counter it.Its why we ended up with these liberal governments.
Paul says
Exactly the same here. Sister-in- law and Brother- in -law living in Sydney. Astounded at my ‘extremist’ views of islam.
What will it take if 9/11 doesn’t start you thinking for yourself.
(9/11 was a put up job but facilitated by muslimes who thought they were doing allah’s work, bankrolled by……………..?)
John from holland says
The Netherlands is 1 of the savest places of the planet so tourist are welcome here
Bee says
Really. Apart from the invasion which you apparently deny exists, your country is a cesspit of drugs. Tell your comment regarding the safety of Holland to the relatives of Pym Fortune, and Van Gogh! Maybe you have never been to Amsterdam, a den of iniquity that doesn’t care about trafficked women into prostitution.
John from holland says
see http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Netherlands/United-States/Crime
John from holland says
only 6% of population here are muslim, sligthly higher than usa.
We have the trouble because you destabilized middle east (among other to invade iraq) take your responsibility for the mess you made….
KWJ says
John from Holland, the Middle East has never been stable. There’s always been a problem with civil wars, Sadam invading Iran and Kuwait, the 70s and 80s, for centuries earlier. The Ottomans didn’t treat the Arabians that well, but some allied with them.
If they didn’t have dictators, autocrats and kings, it might be different just as with Africa. Their instability invites it. The Middle East is like a child needing to learn self-responsibility. As a Saudi woman said, those terrorists are your sons, daughters, fathers, siblings. No one makes them join up, incessantly read the Qur’an since a kid, and so on. They’ve been doing it for centuries, for example, we did nothing to the Barbary pirates who took our sailors as slaves; we formed the Navy because of them. Read up on it more and you’ll enter understand.
Besides, this migration is manipulated and has been in the works in Europe for a long time.
Anon says
What about the no-go zone/ Muslim area? That is not safe. I’ve walked in other cities at night and immediately felt the danger in a certain area of Amsterdam when I began getting evil stares from Muslims. I turned around and never went back to that area.
Joe says
“Only the paranoid survive” (Andy Grove former CEO of Intel).
Renate says
Prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
dan christensen says
Islam itself is an insult to common sense.
elee says
If you are in the habit of praying for things, pray for a courageous Dutch judge. The time approaches when someone will have no way to avoid answering the question: our law or theirs? Maybe this will be the case that is too explicit to dodge.
Mary Schmidt says
We can only hope for that to happen here in the states. A judge in New Mexico freed 5 muslims, they were training 11 children to commit jihad in public schools, one 3 year old child was found dead on the property, and they had plans to attack a hospital in Atlanta Ga. The judge set them free. But the federal government rearrested all five on those same charges. They will never see the light of day as free people ever again.
Guy Leven-Torres says
“Mohammed” never existed. Se Robert Spencer’s excellent work.
Bee says
See Youtube CIRA International and learn about the false foundation of islime. Riveting facts between a Saudi ex-muslim wahhabi, and an historian scholar Dr Jay Smith. Brilliant, fascinating facts. The cult is based on thin air and is a pack of lies, and worse still the world is being destroyed as a result,
Julian Farmer says
Reason as a concept does not exist outside Europe and Russia. The Moslems and sub-Saharans are little more advanced than the caves of their ancestors.
Ragdoll says
Nothing on the BBC or other mainstream media about this, that I’ve seen. What a surprise. It would do everyone the power of good to have this idiot’s rantings about ‘insults’ to islam being broadcast on every channel.
FYI says
Thunder roars in the sky and lightning flashes…..
The cloud parts and a giant hand deposits something on the ground.
Cautiously,the islamic mob approaches….it looks like ..a drawing of some kind.
Indeed it is:it’s a picture of a man wearing what appears to be a turban..he is cross-eyed and has stink-lines coming out of his image.
On the other side it is written…..”from allah.How do you like my cartoon?”
The islamic mob howl and scream “the prophet of islam has been insulted!
Death to allah!Death to allah”.. allahu akbar..allahu akbar..death to any infidels in the vicinity”
Is allah to be executed for insulting the prophet?
What,dear muslims,would YOU do ..if aLLAH himself insulted the prophet of islam??
allah:hey mo!…was that an eclipse or was that your giant ass blocking out the moon..hahahaha
mo grrrrr
allah yo mama sooooo fat .. aha C’mon,C’mon… whaddaya gonna do?HUH?
mo GRR
allah exactly nothing.NOTHING.
Walter Sieruk says
Among the many things that are wrong with hat violent and vicious Muslim migrant, who in the Netherlands stabbed two people who had noting to do with any many “Insults” to Allah , the Koran and Muhammad . So not only is this very unfair to those two people who were stabbed but this further shows that the god of Islam ,Allah, must be an extremely wear and powerless god because this Allah needs Muslims to strike out in malicious violence for him. Such is the weak god of Islam who is not only wear but so unintelligent that directs Muslims to attack people who didn’t “Insult ” Islam. therefore the Islamic god, Allah , in weak and unfair and unintelligent
In great contrast the God of the Bible and Christianity is not weak and powerless.For He can handle insults to Him ,or to His “only Begotten Son” John 3:16 .[N.K..J.V] by Himself. He doesn’t nee to “help” of Christians to take revenge for Him.. In addition, ,the God of the Bible direct His anger to the people who actually affront Him and not innocent people as in the case of that Muslim and his Islamic god in the above news report.
For in the Bible it is written “”Be not deceived ; God is not mocked: for whatever a man sows , that he will also reap.” Galatians 6:7.
Giacomo Latta says
Clearly, all gods are weak. If any god had a brain he wouldn’t let one mentally disturbed individual, be it Muhammad or Abraham, know about his existence if he really wanted humans to live in a very specific conformist way. He would have beamed himself down during a gathering of the multitudes somewhere then announce his existence to all. As it is, ”God” clearly is a marketing incompetent and does not know how to hire one that is competent.
Phil Copson says
Of course this fictitious “Allah” is weak – if it was real and had any powers at all, it could get in touch by itself, and explain where it thinks we’re going wrong….
Just what kind of “all-powerful” deity is it that can’t even manage a ‘phone call ?
Renee says
We ourselves are an insult to him, even if we would not say a word.
Darkness cannot handle light, because the darkness then always loses.
B. Marty says
Insults to Islam? Mohammad eats rat $ht, Allah sucks dill pickles. Ef U.
B. Marty says
Insult to Islam? Mohammad eats rat sht? Allah sucks dill pickles. Sorry if I disgraced you, Robert.
lebel says
“The worst aspect of this is that many, many people in the West will read that the Muslim migrant stabbed people because of “repeated insults to God, the Koran and Islam’s Prophet Mohammed,” and will conclude that we simply must not insult Allah, the Qur’an, and Muhammad.”
I think very, very few people in the West would conclude that. I would go further in saying that few people in the East would conclude that.
Buck Tucker says
I do read it that way. Insulting them is dangerous, we can criticize and create logical arguments against them but they are not the same as we are. In the west we have vulgar society, they have it in the east too, but they are different spheres, even though they try to blend in by shooting the sh!t it is only to a degree, imagine how you would be treated in Yemen if you tried to shoot the sh!t with the tribesmen, best case scenario expulsion. Be careful with what you say and who you say it to. Also the extremists love internet hate posts because their position of violence becomes justified into a postition of self preservation. On the other hand the extremists hate posts like this that say their religion needs to be respected and not insulted. I think Mohamed cartoon contests are a bad idea, but Trump’s travel ban on extremist governed countries is a wise idea.
KWJ says
The travel ban is useless when it doesn’t include the oil countries. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Kuwait. They’re the ones funding hateful mosques, raising them as they do with rote memorization of the Qur’an, etc. There are a lot more easier going Syrians than Saudis. Syria and Iraq have been liberal in comparison to KSA…the things ypu’re Allowed to do. It’s beyond Trump’s control. They’re catching Middle Easterners coming in through Mexico.
Buck Tucker says
The comments of a few endanger the lives of many as events like these show. Be against Islam in principle but do not stick fire brands into the wounds of these extremists, dont vote for liberals, dont do business with foreigners, be vocal about God if that is your thang but stick to preaching the Bible and forget the ramblings of these strangers.
dumbledoresarmy says
Buck.
The ‘blasphemy’ law of Islam – modelled on the precedent set by Mohammed, who approved of the assassination of poets – Asma Bint Marwan, Abu Afak, Kab bin Ashraf – who had *dared* to criticise him/ his weird new cult/ the bad behaviour of himself and his fellow banditti/ cultists – holds that anyone, anywhere, whether adherent or non-adherent, who criticises, questions or mocks ANY aspect of Islam/ allah/ mohammed, whatsoever, MUST. BE KILLED.
And.. it isn’t just ‘extremists’. *Any* pious Mohammedan could conceivably decide to enforce the blasphemy law of Islam (and very often, false charges that this or that person or entity has ‘insulted Islam’ are INVENTED by the Mohammedans, in order to gin up the jihad…soo… might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb).
If we had not *stupidly* permitted Muslims to establish colonies inside our non-Islamic countries, we could poke fun at them – or, at the other end of the spectrum, engage in intelligent and searching criticism of the ugly and inhuman teachings and practices of Islam – to our hearts’ content (so long as our borders were – and appeared – inassailable, our countries too strong to be assailed by open warfare.
The dead body of Theo Van Gogh – murdered by a pious Muslim assassin, enforcing that ‘blasphemy law’ of Islam **on Dutch soil** – and the dead bodies of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists, massacred **on French soil, in broad daylight** by a bunch of mohammedans who were setting out to *enforce the sharia* ON FRENCH SOIL – tells me that ‘blaming the victims’ as you have just done, is very, very stupid.
Ohhhh, they should not have ‘provoked’ the muslims… think like that, and you’ll end up a grovelling dhimmi in no time.
WHAT made Islam so sacrosanct? Why should Islam not be mocked? Why should it be – uniquely – exempt from PUBLIC critique?
If its adherents MURDER at the slightest perceived or claimed – or invented! – slight then they are barbarians and enemy aliens who should not be admitted into our countries… or, if already present, then they require to be EXPELLED, so that the freedoms we have hardly won, within our boundaries, may be maintained.
JM says
Excellent post. I entirely agree. The mistake was to allow muslims into western countries in the first place. Merkel’s decision to allow unchecked and unlimited immigration from muslim-majority countries was particularly foolish – or perhaps treacherous. Once you turn on the tap from the Middle East, how do you turn it off again? I believe there will be war in Europe.
dumbledoresarmy says
Buck
Islam is the religion of perpetual outrage.
EVERYTHING we are and do as kuffar, insults them.
To stop ‘offending’ them we would all have to convert to Islam.
Here’s a brilliant post by a fellow jihadwatcher, some years ago, that sums up the matter very well.
Western Canadian says
March 19, 2016 at 8:18 pm
“Paul Yancey says
March 19, 2016 at 2:53 pm
“As much as I dislike Islam and hate what they stand for, It seems like purposely insulting them is dropping ourselves down a step toward their level” (end quote)
(And Western Canadian responded)
“If you eat pork in their presence, you insult them.
“If you wear an indication of a [non-Islamic – dda] religious faith, you insult them.
“If you live in a house finer then there’s, you insult them.
“If you stop them from raping your wife/daughter/mother/niece/student/stranger, you are insulting them.
“If you refuse to cower and dare walk on the same street as them, you insult them.
“If you like freedom, you insult them.
“If you like music, you insult them.
“If you advocate for equality of all before the law, you insult them.
“If you fail to pay them extortion money, you insult them.
“If you think women should be or must be in charge of their own lives, you insult them.
“If you think you are equal to a muslim, you insult them.
“If you object to second class to lowest class status, you insult them.
“If you think that a woman or female child wearing a swimsuit while swimming SHOULD NOT BE MOLESTED OR RAPED, you insult them.
“If you think that if they are employed in a commercial venture and should treat all customers the same, you insult them.
“If you object to the ‘halal’ extortion racket, you insult them.
“If you think they should get a job and support themselves and their own families, you insult them.
“If you disagree with them about anything, you insult them.
“**If you are NOT a muslim, you insult them by existing as anything other than a slave, to be abused/raped/murdered at will.** (my emphasis – dda)
“If you want to build or repair a church or temple, you insult them.
“If you wear clothes equal to theirs (and they have NO damned fashion sense!), you insult them.
“If you have a sense of humour, you insult them.
“If you know the truth about islmaic (RTC) history (bloody and vicious), you insult them.
“If you tell the truth about their filthy books, you insult them.
“If you tell the truth about the criminal who fabricated their hate cult, you insult them.
“Would you care for another 100,000 plus examples, of what ‘insults’ muslims?”
JM says
No, that is plenty to be going on with!
Excellent post, showing why islam is bad news for every non-muslim. – and indeed, would be for muslims themselves, if they realized what a gigantic “con trick” their ideology is.
dumbledoresarmy says
“Be against Islam in principle but do not stick fire brands into the wounds of these extremists,..”.
They’re not ‘extremists’. Just Muslims obeying the diktats of their cult, just like it says on the tin.
Here are a few items for you to read, and perhaps reconsider your advice to us all to tippytoe gently round the tender sensibilities of the Perpetually Offended members of the Religion of Perpetual Outrage.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/18024
“Op-Ed: You can never be “nice” enough to the Muslims
They want your country, your religion and your life.”
Excerpt – “…Yes, my friends, whatever you do, you can never be “nice” enough to today’s Muslims.
“Listen to what I’m going to tell you now. And trust me, as an American-born Israeli who has lived with Muslim terror for fifty years, it’s the truth: They hate you not because of how you treat them, but because you exist and you don’t believe in their religion, or their wondrous prophet. Because you treat women and homosexuals as human beings. Because you won’t agree that they take over your country and your lives, and submit to their rules.
“So when you die, they will tell you it’s all your fault. Because you made them mad. You made them really, really mad, so whatever horrors they are at this very moment busily planning to inflict on you (because that’s the only thing they are good at; the only thing they believe in), you deserve them. It is inevitable and you should have seen it coming…”.
…”.
“…I feel sorry for you America, France, Great Britain, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Spain. So many more of you are going to die trying to be “nice” to the Muslims.
“Trying to make life good for them, until you realize **they hate you and want you dead no matter what you do for them.** (my emphasis – dda; and bear in mind, this isn’t about ‘extremists’, this is.. Islam, bog-standard Islam, go read Mr Spencer’s ‘History of Jihad” and learn that it’s just plain old Islam as it has always been practised since its inception).
You and your wife and your kids. Dead or sold into slavery, or raped or educated to be killers. Dead or willing to be part of their new world order, the great Caliphate…”.
And another bracing blast of reality, here, from David Greenfield.
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/dangers-of-legitimizing-islamic.html
“The dangers of legitimising Muslim grievances”.
Money quote – “The fundamental Muslim grievance is that they are not in power, not just in Israel where the world has accepted their demand to be in power as a wholly moral and legitimate demand, or throughout the Muslim world where Western governments have helped bring the Islamists to power with bombs and political pressure. The fundamental grievance is that they are not in power… everywhere.”
Get that through your head, Buck. And remember, again, this isn’t some ‘extremists’. This is… Islam, Islam, Islam.
And here’s another article from David Greenfield that I think you need to read, because he draws out the parallel between the way that an abused spouse tiptoes around their abuser, and the way that the modern west is fearfully tiptoeing around the Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260570/dont-make-muslims-angry-daniel-greenfield
DON’T MAKE THE MUSLIMS ANGRY
Our abusive relationship with Islam has to end.
“….Our national security strategy, our diplomacy and the premise of societies that are being transformed by Muslim migration is – don’t make the Muslims angry. This vision for the West is an abusive relationship in which the free world plays the beaten wife whose dreams and hopes have narrowed down to not “provoking” another violent tantrum from the psychotic monster who has taken over her life.
“Don’t Make the Muslims Angry” has become our highest law. The free world needs an intervention before we give up our rights, our identities and our future to live in this abusive relationship with Islam.”