Bowen Island resident and SFU professor of criminology Neil Boyd said, “We can’t predict with unfailing accuracy who will or will not commit crime, all we can say about immigration is that people who come to Canada as immigrants have lower crime rates than native-born Canadians.”
This is disingenuous in the extreme, as the immigrant figures include both Muslims and non-Muslims. Would Neil Boyd care to comment upon the crime rates of Muslim immigrants in particular? Somehow I doubt it.
Meanwhile, the members of the St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church were no doubt congratulating themselves on their compassion when they brought Ibrahim Ali to Canada. Are any of the church members sorry now, or would expressing regret be “Islamophobic”?
“Vancouver church and members of Bowen Island behind joint private sponsorship of Ibrahim Ali,” by Denise Ryan, Vancouver Sun, September 12, 2018 (thanks to the Geller Report):
Accused killer Ibrahim Ali lived with his family in the shadow of the leafy Burnaby park where the body of young Marrisa Shen was found in July, 2017 — close enough that family members might have passed by the small memorial that reminded the public her killer was still at large.
At the building, where the family rents two apartments, a man answered the door to Postmedia News on Wednesday.
The man confirmed that he was a relative of Ibrahim Ali, the Syrian refugee charged in Shen’s murder, and said “I’m sorry, I’m sorry,” before closing the door.
Ibrahim Ali came to Canada in March of 2017 through a joint-sponsorship between a group of Bowen Island families and the St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church.
According to reports in the Bowen Island Undercurrent, Ali arrived with two brothers, one of whom had a spouse and three young children. They joined a fourth brother who came to Canada as a government sponsored refugee four years ago. The family was united and now live in Burnaby.
A member of the Bowen Island sponsorship group that came together to raise thousands of dollars and donate clothing and furniture for the family declined to speak to Postmedia on Wednesday, citing instructions of a lawyer….
Bowen Island resident and SFU professor of criminology Neil Boyd (who was not part of the sponsorship group) said it’s important to remember that at this point, Ali is only alleged to have committed the crime, and that it would be wrong to jump to conclusions about the refugee sponsorship system that brought Ali to Canada.
“It would be inappropriate to say this was a failure in the system. Some people who wanted to do good raised some money to see him reunited with his family.”
Boyd said, “We can’t predict with unfailing accuracy who will or will not commit crime, all we can say about immigration is that people who come to Canada as immigrants have lower crime rates than native-born Canadians.”…
D J says
I grew up in Vancouver. Bowen Island residents made the leftists of Vancouver look like Deplorables!
RIP Marissa. We will remember you.
bob kelly says
DJ I was thinking the same thing Holy rollers that think they above every one else. And trudeau says Syrian refugees are vetted BS. Assad — are they just going to call him up and his staff is going to tell us the truth. Canada is Assad enemy
gravenimage says
+1
Andy says
In Memory of Marrisa Shen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwe6CCzgUiM
Andy says
Outrage over Chinese-Canadian girl murdered by “refugee” shocks media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhJel0Lnfk
gravenimage says
As though these dhimmis should be shocked that Chinese-Canadians don’t want ravening Muslims murdering their children!
Nancy says
How could Boyd say that? The Liberal way of thinking. Insanity..
Halal Bacon says
Of course its a lower crime rate when mental problems / cultural difference are used as an excuse which makes it not a crime
gravenimage says
The non-violent immigrants are mostly Infidels.
Darryl Kerney says
Yes i suppose more native born Canadians commit crimes than immigrants,
But only if you follow Sharia law……
Buraq says
I’m crossing my fingers in the hope that the Chinese Triads in Canada decide to even the score on behalf of their own community! One criminal gang taking out members of the other quasi-religious criminal gang would be a vicious war. I believe the quasi-religious criminal clowns would realize they had bitten off more than they can chew.
katherine says
It has been the experience of crime fighters in countries with large Chinese populations that these Triads have a tendency to prey on and victimize their own kind – they do not have the guts to antagonize other communities.
The indigenous administrations of various nations choose to ignore this situation as a Chinese Problem and would not lift a finger to help as long as they do not disturb the local ( esp. Muslim ) groups.
I suppose Canada is in the same situation, with the exception that the RCMP vigilantes would ride down and eliminate any syndicate that dares to avenge a Muslim – inspired crime.
gravenimage says
True, Katherine.
eduardo odraude says
When it comes to Islam, some non-Muslims respond only with love, but not with truth. Other non-Muslims respond to Islam only with truth, but not with love. What is most needed, perhaps, is to put the two responses together as tough love, love that also tells the truth. Tony Costa goes into this point at about 4 mins., 30 secs into this video. The video is Christian oriented, but the point made I think can be valid even if one is not a Christian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=275&v=OHUh8w-6Okk
Rarely says
LOL.
So the solution is to convert all muslims to Christianity. Good luck with that.
Christians believe that Christianity is the truth. Muslims believe islam is the truth. But Christians will bridge the gap by showing love to muslims by showing them that Christianity is the truth.
Just make sure that you are wearing a bullet-proof vest on while you are convincing them.
Leon Degney says
I think a 20mm thick hardened steel collar would possibly compliment the bulletproof vest to help protect said missionary, maybe just maybe.
Rarely says
One ENTIRE Church couldn’t get through to this guy, Not only did they not get a convert but they couldn’t even turn him away from rape and murder.
Yup. The solution MUST be to simply tell him the “good news” about Christianity.
Now that he’s in jail for a while would you like to sponsor a few more? No point letting your good works and preaching go to waste. Or you could try to do something useful for the families of the victims of these so-called “refugees”. You could reach out to Marrisa Shen’s family for starts.
Have you considered sponsoring Yazidis or Arab Christians who are the most affected by the turmoil and most at risk?
Leon Degney says
This Muslim clown will be in prison converting fence sitter inmates and christians, to Islam for their safety while they are there.
Elisha says
How much evidence do YOU need? It’s Jesus Christ or hell. You decide …
Renate says
Poor deluded Christians!
FYI says
And these naive dhimmiwit Christians know about the koran’s teachings of k9:30 where allah CURSES Christians simply for believing in Jesus Christ?
Of course they don’t.
That Church group must accept some responsibility for this tragedy.
A few Kumbayyas won’t do it.
Oh Jesus!save us from the kumbayya,happy-clappy,dhimmiwit Christians!
LeftisruiningCanada says
They were missionizing their mission of missionary missionism with this latest massive miss-hit – the technique of immigration evangelism.
Elisha says
Secular humanism is responsible for muslim migration en masse.
gravenimage says
There is lots of blame to go around–there are some Christians, Jews and Secularists who are dhimmi tools–as well as some of all of these groups who are savvy Anti-Jihadists.
Anton Filipenkov says
They also usually lump illegal aliens and legal immigrants together to say illegals are actually law abiding.
StellaSaidSo says
And they completely ignore the fact that ILLEGALS, by definition, are CRIMINALS.
Agha Ali Arkhan says
No wonder churches lose members.
gravenimage says
Muslim migrant who murdered 13-year-old girl came to Canada sponsored by a church group
………………….
These tools should be ashamed, but clearly are not.
DHazard says
A girl dies so some uninformed Christian can add a few brownie points to his definitely NOT racist self image. Expecting Muslim immigrants to do the right thing is the same as expecting them to leave Islam.
It’s one or the other.
lolwut? says
The minister of that church is a member of the Anti-Trump resistance and a gay man married to another man.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-churches-promote-resistance-in-face-of-political-fear
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/08/17/gary-paterson-united-church-gay-vancouver_n_1799476.html
Leon Degney says
That pretty much says it all.
Elisha says
In other words, he’s pretending to be a Christian.
R Russell says
I looked on the church website and it appears to be another apostate church. No mention of Jesus dying for our sins or us being transformed by the renewing of our minds.
As such it wasn’t a surprise, that when the basics of Christianity are not on their website under ‘beliefs’, that the example of the parable of the Good Samaritan was also ignored.
The injured man was NOT taken from his place of origin, but was cared for where he was.
Thus I can see no reason to bring to our countries, those whose ideology is completely different from our own and thus will kill us in the name of their God Allah.
Ronny says
Many churches of Christendom in Canada are responsible for allowing foreign muslims to glom on into Canada. They also brag about doing it.
Giacomo Latta says
”all we can say about immigration is that people who come to Canada as immigrants have lower crime rates than native-born Canadians”
By whose rules? According to the koran no muslim immigrant has ever committed a crime in North America.
Politicianophobia says
Sorry for being off topic
I just read about a pedophile in Aurora, Illinois, his ex-girlfriend said he raped her 8 year old daughter, he was charged and was released on bond. The judge in the case woke up at 3 in the morning, his dog was barking. the judge opened his front door and found the decapitated corpse of the pedophile propped up against his house and the head on the porch. Gruesome story, will his estate have to forfeit the bail?
gravenimage says
What is the point of this story?
No, we should not support vigilante violence, if this is what you are suggesting.
Incidentally, I was raped by my mother’s boyfriend when I was eight. I am not soft on accusations of child rape; I just believe in due process.
I don’t think we should throw out our laws for accused pedophiles or for Muslims. Really, we should not be importing Muslims into the West to begin with.
Tom says
If proper vetting had occurred perhaps this child would still be alive today. There is a world of difference between “immigrants” to Canada who go through a long, thorough, and comprehensive process that assesses whether they will be a good fit for Canada. Usually immigrants have made the conscious decision that they want to emmigrate to Canada because they agree with the culture and wish to assimilate.
On the other hand most “refugee migrants” are displaced from their homeland, have not rejected the culture of their home country, and bring with them all the disfunctionality of their societies, including their hatred of those outside their religious beliefs.
In most cases it is difficult, if not impossible to conduct a thorough background check on refugees as the situation causing them to become refugees is turmoil.
This professor is comparing apples to oranges by trying to include immigrants and refugees in his reference to crime statistics.
A more realistic reference would be crime stats of refugees who are in Canada, and what percentage are Muslim or of other background.
The smoke and mirrors tactic of the left is easily seen through.
Politicianophobia says
My Father was from England, my Mother, from Ireland, we all came from somewhere BUT I was taught Canada is the greatest country in the world. Never take FREEDOM lightly, stand up for your country and defend it’s VALUES. We have many politicians who keep telling Canadians how bad this country is, they should go back to where they came from, it is that simple. Shari’ah law will never rule Canada.
Karen says
A beautiful child, and now her life is over at age 13. Many in her community will want some good to come out of this. Knowing they can’t help Marissa, they will focus on the accused. Being liberal too often has meant shielding the accused, if convicted, from the brunt of the law and personal responsibility, and calling that a social justice victory. I’m guessing the same happens here.
Kepha says
Ouch, ouch, ouch–and worse. My own granddaughter will look something like that picture in a few years. Your comment is just too true of how our world is going.
gravenimage says
+1
abad says
St. Andrew’s-Wesley United Church needs to be investigated by the Canadian equivalent of the FBI, if they have one.
Sponsoring criminals who want to murder you while “Allahu Akhbaring”.
Deport thee Moslems back to their home nations now.
abad says
*these
Politicianophobia says
GI, I do not believe in violence period. Why did the judge see fit to allow this creature bail? Raping a child is unforgiveable.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the clarification, Politicianophobia. I agree that he should not have been granted bail until the case was investigated.
infidel says
During an infamous night in 1990, in the Northern Indian state of Kashmir, long standing and supposedly friendly Muslims barged into the houses of their minority Hindu neighbors with swords and knives in hand and demanded the horrified Hindus to LEAVE KASHMIR IMMEDIATELY before sunrise the next day. ” Make sure that Ur faces must not be seen anywhere around here after sunrise tomorrow….” At the same time, these Muslims also gave their horrified Khafir neighbors another DIABOLICAL alternative.. LEAVE UR WOMEN FOLK BEHIND AND U WILL GET ANOTHER COUPLE OF DAYS THROWN IN TO VACATE SAFELY..” And this devlishness is soon going to come visiting Ur doors in the Greater West, esp in places like Minnesota and of course The EU without any shred of doubt.
infidel says
Any kindness shown to Islam by infidels is ALMOST ALWAYS CONSTRUED AS A WEAKNESS AND APPEASEMENT BY MUSLIMS.. This by itself is another Islamic truism from the annals of the infidel