UK Police are too busy responding to trivial social media spats to tackle serious crime, the new head of the Police Federation has said, after years of forces encouraging “hate crime” reports for offensive comments. Officers on the street still have a “desperation to do the job and very often they can’t because their hands are tied.”
London mayor Sadiq Khan has been “setting aside millions of pounds” of taxpayer money for “an online hate crime hub.” Meanwhile, London has experienced an alarming surge in violent crime, and the public remains in danger from violent crime and jihad attacks.
Manchester police chief Umer Khan declared from 2016 that the “freedom of speech does not mean freedom of offending culture, religion or tradition.” In a free society, speech that offends someone is not actually prohibited — but not according to Umer Khan and Sadiq Khan. Yet they are not consistent: only 10 days before Manchester Arena jihadist Salman Abedi bought his ticket to the Ariana Grande concert, an imam at the bomber’s mosque “called for jihad,” but that is not the offensive speech to which Khan was referring. Abedi detonated a bomb, killing 22 innocent people.
Skyrocketing crime and the jihad doctrine matter little to UK police. This is what really matters to them: on a London police website, guidelines were provided that define “hate”:
“Hate Crime” is any criminal offence where anyone believes the victim has been targeted because of their race/ethnicity, religion/belief, gender/gender
identity, disability, age, sexual orientation or any other actual or perceived difference. “Hate incidents” are incidents that do not constitute a criminal offence but cause alarm, distress or harassment where anyone believes the victim has been targeted because of their race/ethnicity, religion/belief, gender/gender identity,
disability, age, sexual orientation.
Needless to say, this is easy for Islamic supremacists to manipulate, and they are well-known for doing so, aggressively pushing the “Islamophobia” canard.
The brazenness is alarming: in March, an Islamic State jihadist tried to create a “jihadist child army in East London,” and in August, a Manchester mosque sermon “called for armed jihad.” None of that was what the UK police are referring to as “hate.”
Not offending Islam remains the top priority of the British [sharia] police.
“Police ‘Too Busy With Online Spats for Serious Crime,’” by Liam Deacon, Breitbart, September 24, 2018:
UK Police are too busy responding to trivial social media spats to tackle serious crime, the new head of the Police Federation has said, after years of forces encouraging “hate crime” reports for offensive comments.
Officers on the street still have a “desperation to do the job and very often they can’t because their hands are tied,” according to chairman John Apter who represents 120,000 rank-and-file officers.
He argued that the focus on new types of crime, including cyber and “hate offences,” can come at the expense of traditional police work. Both need addressing, he said, but not one at the expense of the other.
Mr Apter told The Sunday Telegraph: “Where we get drawn into local disagreements, the argument over the remote control, the dispute in the playground, the row on Facebook, it is frustrating.
“I think police time can be better spent and it makes a mockery when we are so stretched. You can’t treat society like that and you can’t treat the police as political footballs.
“We need to have a sensible debate with politicians, with society and with the public about exactly what they want their police to do.
“People join the police to keep people safe and to lock up bad people, not to sort out petty squabbles over a remote control.”
Police forces have been actively encouraging people to report “hate crimes” in recent years…..
Con Bradley says
Killing the innocent is OK but free speech is a crime, this is insane!!
GJean says
Religion is insane of any kind , a form of control
R Russell says
G Jean
Yes, religion can be insane, but a friendship with the Bible Jesus is totally different.
You should give him a try
Anne Smith says
Unfortnately this is what happens when you have a fool as Prime Minister
kelly says
1984 – the thought police are listening to your thoughts…
FYI says
“Hate hurts.Report it and put a stop it out.
No one should have to live with fear,anxiety or consequences of being ‘different’…”
That’s the official South Yorkshire Police manifesto.Such sweethearts!Such virtue-signalling!
Should we tell them about the anti-Semitic and anti-Christian teachings in the violent koran?
Good luck trying to put a stop to it.You would have to start with their book that preaches endless hate and violence towards us “infidels”,the ‘holy’ koran.
As for people being “different” who have to live with “fear,anxiety or the consequences of being ‘different’ “…..would that not include the following,the focus of islamic supremacist tyranny:
Jews,Christians,Hindus,ex-muslims,atheists,agnostics,Budhists,women,gay people..?
The people who are ‘different’:You know .. “the INFIDELS”.Now surely no “infidels” should have to live in fear,anxiety or the consequences of being ‘different in their own country,eh,PC Plods of the SYP???
Will they be investigating islamic tyranny?Nope.’cos that would be “racist” and “islamophobic”
Like when a MUSLIM rape gang is at work,best to ignore it lest one be accused of being intolerant.
It’s so much easier for the Police to go after FAKE crime like ‘hate speech'{or as reasonable folk call it,contrary opinions}than it is to deal with the horrific reality of a MUSLIM rape gang.
IanB says
Our police have been hopelessly politicised by multikulti PC crap from top to bottom. South Yorkshire Police are the worst of the worst: they did nothing about the brutal rape of over 1400 young girls in Rotherham until publicity exposed the scandal and they arrest anyone who complains about it – Tommy Robinson isn’t the only one, there have been hundreds of such arrests across the UK for “hate speech” criticism of Islam. I’m sick of it. My dear late grandfather was a policeman and he would be too. We have been betrayed by the police who cannot protect our children and have no intention of doing so. A society that cannot protect its children is finished.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Sajid Javid
St. Ferdinand III says
There is no such thing as ‘hate speech’. There may be an incitement to violence as given in Mein Koran und Mein Kampf. There may be slanderous ad hominen hyperbole. There could be lies and falsehoods. But hate speech as a logical, definable concept simply does not exist. It cannot be identified, known and has no definition. It is therefore invalid and immoral to assign ‘laws’ against it.
Further it is uni-directional protecting Moslems from criticising but not non-Moslems. It is therefore not only illogical but immoral.
The UK Police must have been things to do. A short list could include: sex abuse in the classroom; gender abuse in the classroom; Moslem FGM; Moslem Child marriages; Moslem sex trafficking of white girls; Moslem gang rapes; Moslem moped gangs; Moslem acid attacks; Moslem terror attacks; Moslem anti-semitic racism.
Seems to be plenty of real police work to do.
Antony1977 says
Agreed. “Hate” is a definable concept. “Hate speech” is not. Is it a speach when you hate someone? But you can say the same under other circumstances. Using derogatory terms? Aiming at making someone angry, upset, offended or something like this? Any word can lead to such consequences. Actually people have been using derogatory words for thousands of years as well as have been making others angry, upset, offended. Up till now there was no need for any special term defining such speech and it’s clear that the main goal is not to make up such special term. The main goal is to have a universally applied and broadly interpreted leverage to suppress any dissent.
gravenimage says
+1
Bill says
Face it. The police have an easier time sitting behind a desk and harrassing unarmed innocent grannies and other law abiding citizens who have spoken or written in a manner offensive to the Police State.
The UK police are cowards and I bet that many of them, along with many politicians, are on the take from the rape gangs anyhow.
j_not_a says
That might be true of a small number of them, but I couldnt fathom any cop with young daughters or nieces having the stomach for that or being ok with the muzlum rape gangs. Theyd have to be monsters too.
Bill says
They are cowardly monsters who use their authority to persecute the innocent and protect the guilty.
Yokel says
The British police are not LED by LEADERS, they are MANAGED. So they have TARGETS for arrests etc to meet. And as anyone who has seen a KPI (Key Performance Indicators) culture engulf an organisation will know, what gets measured gets managed.
The top bosses want arrests? Then they’ll get them – from whatever group or crime is the easiest to provide them. So whoever still happens to know right from wrong, or who is stupid enough not to run a mile on the rare occasions when a blue and hi-vis yellow uniform turns up will promptly be arrested.
Targets will have been met, all can go home happy. No point in rocking the boat, is there?
gravenimage says
I know in Sweden most police want to quite–up to 80% of them. I think most decent cops are disturbed by this, but don’t see how to fight it.
j_not_a says
But it’s perfectly fine to offend British culture, religion and tradition, that is what this muzlum police chief is really saying.
Guy Forester says
It seems to be OK to behead one of the UK’s soldiers, but not to point out a child rapist.
gravenimage says
+1
IanB says
To understand the dire political direction of UK police jihadwatchers need to delve into the murky world of the Common Purpose organisation of which many senior police officers are”graduates” i.e. members.
See –
https://www.cpexposed.com/about-common-purpose
and
https://www.cpexposed.com/graduates
Type “police” into the organisation search box for a list of police men and women “graduates” who have completed CP courses at huge public expense.
The leaked database is now about 14 years old so badly out of date.
These CP “graduates” (members) constitute a secret society intent on destroying freedom and democracy in the UK.
IanB says
Pat Condell explains it far better than I can in this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ovRn-VxqHSE
Anne Smith says
This is absolutely true. Common Purpose is the sinister organisation which has undermined the rule of law in our once great country.
Unfortunately Mrs May ( the foolish woman who should never have been appointed Prime Minister) thinks it is a marvellous organisation
IanB says
Pat Condell explains it far better than I can in this video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ovRn-VxqHSE
IanB says
Here’s another relevant video from the brilliant Pat Condell
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WJzDmZDfQI8&vl=en-GB
gravenimage says
Good stuff, Ian–thank you for the links.
Undaunted says
Real cops don’t wear lime-green “safety” vests as part of their daily uniform. When they’re busy in vehicle traffic – yes. The rest of the time – no.
j_not_a says
Yeah, I thought something didnt look right about that photo but couldn’t put my finger on it.
Mirren10 says
Yes, they do. All the time.
CogitoErgoSum says
Being offended by what someone says is the result of an emotion that comes from within a person. If I say something to one person and that person is not offended, I have not committed a crime. If I say the exact same thing to another person and that person IS offended, what is MY crime? If any crime involving “feelings” is committed it is committed by the person who is feeling offended for he is the one who has done the harm to himself by feeling offended. This stupidity of making it a crime to hurt someone’s feeling has got to stop. Emotion is outside the realm of reason and the law.
Notmoron says
Now there is no doubt that the UK police is a SHARIA SKUNK thugs.
Guy Forester says
Back in the 1960’s, an interesting story was detailed in the US about a “shoot out” between some London Bobbies and an armed bandit.
For those unaware, the London police at that time only carried a billy club and communicated primarily with whistles. Radios and armed police were few, and many, if not most Bobbies walked a “beat” covering a designated area.
Some guy with a pistol held up some place (not sure if it was a store or other business) and ran off. The local Bobbies were informed and gave chase, cornering him. He took a few pot shots at the Bobbies (I think it was 2 or 3) responded by hurling their billys at him. Well they had a limited supply to say the least, but the local citizens raided a construction site and brought a bunch of short pieces of rebar to the cops, who proceeded to rain these iron rods on the crook. After a few direct hits and a steady rain of iron, he surrendered.
Where are the men of the UK that were willing and able to chase after a for real bad guy with a gun and go at him with only clubs and hand thrown missiles? One brave man gave his life at last year’s London Bridge incident, but what do we see predominating?
Failure to identify and go after the real criminals and sponsors of crime and terror. This has started at the top and has now worked its way down to the street level.
These same thugs also run your elections. The Brits that care need to go out and vote out these tyrants in such great numbers, that just like with Trump, the truth cannot be hidden or counted away by finding one or two “lost boxes” of votes.
Trump is flawed and so are your alternatives to the tweedle dee and tweedle dum parties you have in the UK. But, just like Trump, at least they offer some possibilities and answers to problems that have been ignored or refused by the current crooks in office. Time to stand up for real liberty, real free speech, and real people that will listen to you.
Yokel says
Guy, I do not wish to denigrate the main points of your post, but just to stress that the situation is actually worse that you indicate.
These days, taking the same action as the citizens of 1960 would result in definite foreseeable difficulty for the citizens as the police now reserve all exercise of violence to themselves. Therefore citizens raining chunks of rebar onto the alleged criminal would result in arrests for infringement of his “yuman rites” etc as well as for endagering his health and safety. Then of course removing the rebar from the construction site would undoubtedly be classed as theft. By now I hope you will see that there are plenty of much less dangerous people for the coppers to arrest (and meet their targets) without even having to worry about the dangerous armed assailant any more.
Your phrase “Failure to identify” implies that they tried and were not successful for lack of knowledge, effort, skill, etc. Insofar as it applies to policing the group that this blog concerns itself with (ie those who must not be denigrated for the avoidance of harm to community cohesion), the use of the word failure is far, far too kind. Instead there is a deliberate refusal, probably under orders from Common Purpose, as outlined above by IanB.
Yes, Britain desperately needs someone like Trump to drain our “establishment”, the self-entitled elites who rule the country continuously and without reference to anything much said by the politicians or electorate. Trump didn’t just happen, it took the identification of him as a suitable candidate and several years of hard planning by a very large team even to get him elected. To the best of my knowledge there is no-one identified as a suitable candidate with such a large team behind him. As yet, they are all still wallowing in the swamp.
Guy Forester says
Thank you for your observations. However, in the above mentioned Bobby v Armed Thug encounter, the locals only brought the police the rebar. It takes a great deal of skill to actually throw and hit something with a missile, which the police at that time were quite accomplished at. But you are correct, that today the locals would get arrested for theft, and the police themselves could vey well be indicted for police brutality. Unless of course the target was Tommy R or someone like him.
Brother Charles says
Is this the new BRITISH DHIMMI POLICE FARCE, we are seeing .
Obbop says
NATO should consider Britain to be a hostile, enemy state and place it under an economic embargo. Do not allow any British citizen to enter any free Western country. Let that cesspool interact with other Moslem countries. Britain should be dead to the West. The USA should also pre-target Britain for nuclear strikes for the day when it becomes a caliphate and takes control of the British nuclear arsenal.
IanB says
This is probably the most ludicrous post I have read on JW, possibly excepting those of village idiot Ibrahim.
Many of us here in the UK are counter jihad activists at great risk to ourselves: from arrest, career loss, ruined reputation and character assassination. My file at MI5 must cover five or six shelves. What are YOU doing other than posting crap here?
If you want to recommend a valid nuke target how about Mecca?
gravenimage says
Many NATO countries are riddled with dhimmitude–it is not just Britain.
Jim says
[quote]Manchester police chief Umer Khan declared from 2016 that the “freedom of speech does not mean freedom of offending culture, religion or tradition.”[/quote]
So when are they going to go after the Muslim hate preachers?
Shocking and very sad to see England basically laying down and surrendering at the feet of the Jihadis.
IanB says
This Englishman ain’t ever surrendering, neither will millions more.
gravenimage says
That Manchester’s police chief is Muslim is part of the problem.
Ed says
Ah! Great Britain!!
The last bastion of . . . , er . . . , well . . . . , absolutely nothing.
Amy Smithe says
WE HAVE FREE SPEECH, IT IS INHERENT OF GOD AND ANYONE THAT KEEPS ONE FROM SAYING WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE ONE THAT IS WRONG! WAKEUP UK! AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PLACES TOO! What the heck were the world wars fought about: WRONG ideology and the right of freedom! So are many going back on that and taking sides with the evil of the left that is spreading worldwide? It is backwards and taking on the very thing that mankind has fought against all
of time….being slaves to a dictator!!!!
WHO CARES IF SOME CALL OTHERS INTOLERANT OR THEY ARE BEING THIS OR THAT??…IF IT IS NOT THEIR TRUTH, THEN IT DOESN’T MATTER!!….EVIL IS EVIL AND THERE IS PLENTY OF IT HAPPENING ALL OVER WITH MUSLIMS ESPECIALLY! IF ALL OF HUMANITY DOES NOT OPEN THEIR EYES AND STOP ALL OF THIS POLITICALLY CORRECT RUBBISH AND THE ALLOWANCE OF THE EVIL OF ISLAM AND MUSLIMS, THEN IT IS WWII ALL OVER AGAIN, ONLY THIS TIME IT WILL BE NUMBER 3!!! NO ONE HAS TO ACCEPT MUSLIMS OR ISLAM AS ANYTHING BUT WHAT IT IS…EVIL DERANGED RANTINGS OF VERY SICK PEOPLE !
gravenimage says
UK police too busy responding to offensive speech “crimes” online to tackle jihad threats
………………
Suicidal insanity.
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