A couple who described themselves as an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde” have been found guilty in an Australian court of planning a New Year’s Eve terrorist stabbing attack on non-Muslims. Sameh Bayda and Alo-Bridget Namoa, both 21, were charged last year with the offences
Now the two will enter prison, where they will likely join forces with other jihadists. The West is struggling to deal with an ideology that is not stymied by Western norms of justice. Jihadists should be isolated in Western prisons, and if from foreign countries, they should be deported.
In February 2016, Sameh Bayda said to investigators that she wanted to do an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde on the Kaffir.” It is important to note is that there could actually be no such thing as an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde.” Western authorities treat jihadis as if they were equivalent to Western criminals, but there is a fundamental difference. Bonnie and Clyde opted for a criminal life. Such people know full well that they are choosing to do what is wrong, despite whatever personal justifications they may have for breaking the law. This thinking is very different from that of Islamic jihadists, who zealously believe that they are doing the right thing by harming infidels and murdering gays, apostates, and others. They believe in the tenets of Islamic jurisprudence that dehumanize those who do not adhere to its doctrines.
Also, cases in the West of domestic abuse and even murder are very different from religiously sanctioned wife-beating and cultural honor violence, both of which are acceptable in societies that adhere to Sharia.
Prosecutors alleged Bayda had given Namoa the knife and said each believed they had a “religious obligation to attack non-believers.”
“Self-Described ‘Islamic Bonnie and Clyde’ Guilty of Plot to Attack ‘Non-Believers,’” by Simon Kent, Breitbart, October 5, 2018:
A couple who described themselves as an “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde” have been found guilty in an Australian court of planning a New Year’s Eve terrorist stabbing attack on non-Muslims.
Sameh Bayda and Alo-Bridget Namoa, both 21, were charged last year with the offences, which prosecutors allege had been plotted in late 2015 to early 2016.
They had already been in custody accused of collecting documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts and denied conspiring to do an act in preparation for a terrorist act.
But after more than three days of deliberations, a NSW Supreme Court jury on Friday found them guilty of the plot. Police evidence showed it involved detonating an improvised device, an incendiary device or using a bladed weapon.
Namoa, who married Bayda in an Islamic wedding ceremony in 2015 when they were 18, had referred to the couple as a jihadi “Bonnie and Clyde,” the Sydney Morning Herald reports.
Bayda was allegedly found with Arabic documents on how to carry out a stabbing and how to make an improvised explosive device (IED), media reports said.
Prosecutors alleged Bayda had given Namoa the knife and said each believed they had a “religious obligation to attack non-believers”…..
Paul says
They were married ?
Is lesbianism, they joy or vice of Sappho halal ?
Paul
Hindu American says
Not lesbians. It’s a male/female thingy. She looks like of aboriginal stock (based on a google image, I could be wrong). She is apparently the one gave the moniker “Bonnie and Clyde” to themselves (after the wedding).
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/10/05/16/32/sydney-couple-sameh-bayda-wife-alo-bridget-namoa-guilty-of-plotting-terror-attack
tim gallagher says
Hindu American, from news reports I’ve read about this couple over the years ( I live in Australia), I think the woman is from a Pacific Island background (Samoan or Tongan or something like that). I’m pretty sure I read a few years back that her Christian family were very upset about how she’d become a Muslim and now gone on to plan this terrorist crime with her Muslim husband. It’s only a vague memory, but I recall that her family were really shocked at what had happened to her, as of course they would be
mortimer says
Australians are committing ‘mischief in the land’, namely, they refuse to adopt Islam and they arrest and attack jihadists at home and abroad. All Australians support the Australian army and the RAAF with their tax money. Those military forces kill Muslims (who happen to be terrorists), so ALL AUSTRALIANS ARE FAIR GAME in the minds of the JIHAD-WARRIORS. By their reasoning, they are cutting the head off of the KAFIR SNAKE … namely, the money source … the taxpayers. Mohammed did the same by drying up the revenues of the Meccans (economic sabotage). When all Australia is weary from JIHADISM, so the jihadist think, then they fall in line with Islam. If enough terrorism is perpetrated, then the will to fight back will disappear. This strategy works every time a corporation caves in and supports Sharia blasphemy law, instead of standing for freedom.
We in the counterjihad need to incentivize corporations economically to support freedom of expression.
StellaSaidSo says
I don’t think these two idiots had any rationale for their nefarious plot, beyond killing kuffar for Allah. All kuffar are fair game, regardless of where their taxes go.
Not sure how your last sentence relates to the article, but I would be interested to know what you suggest we do in order ‘to incentivise corporations economically to support freedom of expression’.
Guy Forester says
I suspect that what he means is:
1. Inform certain business entities that you will cease to do business with them when they squelch dissenting opinions yet allow the posting of material promoting and/or praising jihad, illegal immigration, criminal rights over those of the law abiding, and promoting one particular political view over the other.
2, Pressure the government to use what legal means exist to keep the internet, broadcast, and print media a truly open forum. Stop allowing the consolidation of media into fewer and fewer privileged hands.
I do not know where mort lives, but in certain areas, merely promoting the idea of a boycott or making certain complaints may be construed as hate speech or as a threat. In other words, CYA.
StellaSaidSo says
I think mort was recycling a post from another thread, since his first paragraph also bears little relation to the actual article, so I was not expecting a reply – but I appreciate your response, with its excellent advice!
mortimer says
Muslims understand the effectiveness of the bully’s (or ‘heckler’s’) veto.
Our Western elites are not just naïve but they actively working to restrict speech in their own favor as well.
Aussie Infidel says
Exactly Mortimer. Bullying and making threats works, because most people are not fighters, and back away from conflict..I think you said once that you live around San Francisco. In the US you have your First Amendment, where we in Oz only have leftist inspired Human Rights Acts (Section 18C) under which we could be arrested for hate speech, if Muslims – or anyone else – feel ‘offended’ by what we say. The sooner we get rid of those iniquitous laws, the better. The authorities turn a blind eye to the Quran which contains dozens of verses urging Muslims to carry out such attacks. That would be censoring a ‘religion’, and interfering with Muslims rights to worship freely – and we couldn’t have that. Better that we cower down and simply give in to their demands.
I agree with SSS that all kuffar are fair game, regardless of where their taxes go. Simply being a non-Muslim is sufficient justification for being attacked, (Quran 2:190-193, 4:74, 4:89, 8:24, 8:39, 9:5, 9:14-15, 9:29, etc, etc). The Quran is more like a Mafia manifesto than the ‘holy book’ of a religion.
Jihadist will continue their attacks until we in the West have the guts to confront the Muslims head on, and tell them their supremacist ideology is not we will tolerate in a civilized society. Islam is no doubt a religion because of its supernatural content, but it is also a vicious political ideology which has no respect for anyone else but Muslims, and is therefore a threat to law and order and our national security. But even when we get a politician who is prepared to say it as it is – like Senator Fraser Anning did recently in the House – he gets abuse from all quarters, including the media.
Garfield says
There IS no supernatural content. Islam is a gigantic HOAX made up by a human pedophile. It is NOT holy. It is COMPLETE SHIT.
Islam is a death cult, run like a mafia, fueled by perversion. There’s nothing supernatural about it.
Stan says
Their sentence?
StellaSaidSo says
They will be sentenced in December.
Steve Trueblue says
Stan Australia now has the legal facility to jail jihadis for life, never to be released. This was brought about because some jihadis are due for release soon and they are completely unrepentant and will likely reoffend.These two deserve that fate and it is also a simple solution to jail radicalisation that could be adopted world wide. But only Australia seems to have thought of it. Which is very suspicious.
Frank Anderson says
Steve T. the life sentence certainly beats any form of release. But by itself what does it do to discourage others from doing the same thing? In the US it costs about, about, 100 dollars per day to keep a person in jail/prison. A few thousand of these would easily overload the system and prevent funding of other government activities. Deporting them is no solution either because that just gives an opportunity to plan and train for future attacks. What choices are available “within the bounds of the law”?
James Lincoln says
Frank,
A mandatory life sentence would certainly discourage most regular criminals, jihadis apparently not, I’m not 100% sure.
I have also heard that it costs approximately $100 per day, $36,500 per year to keep a person in jail/prison. However, another way to look at it is that it may actually be cost-effective to keep the jihadis forever isolated from society. A terrorist attack prevented could actually save millions of dollars.
If the United States could totally fix its immigration system, deportation after an extended prison sentence could become an option.
Thoughts?
Frank Anderson says
J.L. the 100 dollars a day is a fair estimate for ordinary prison upkeep from my reading. It may be a little high. It may be a little low. The cost of keeping prisoners in Gitmo is far, far higher per person per day. Ask an engineer, accountant and lawyer how much is 2 plus 2. Depending on who you want to make the joke of the story, one will answer exactly 4, one will answer about 4 and one will answer, “How much do you want it to be?” I have education in all three professions. I have spent a lot of time working with cost estimates to make many decisions and improve operations. So I am to some extent making guesses.
Today’s total delusion that continues starts from the idea that each attack is a single, isolated crime instead of another move in a war declared 1400 years ago. For hundreds of years pirates were treated as ‘enemies of all mankind” [I can never get the Latin spelling of the term correctly.] They could be executed on sight without so much as a trial. Similarly enemy combatants not in uniform were subject to being shot on sight. Look at the brutal measures needed after WWII in Germany for more than a year to end the reign of terror by the Nazi Werewolves. The only reason I see the present war is different is that one side has declared and is conducting it while the other side pretends it does not exist. Islam is a declaration of war against all humanity.
It’s been a while since I have read even a summary of the Geneva Conventions on that subject. In addition to the approximately 20 books on islam that I have read, just a few days ago I completed reading An Abridged Koran, while along the way comparing it with other published Korans to see if the statements were presented fairly. I think the author/editor did a magnificent job of removing the confusion and deception intended by scrambling the order, and loading with repetition, making its reading much more directed and satisfying than the traditional versions, Islam declared war on all humanity and will never end that war until we are all dead or enslaved.
So the only time I see hope in dealing with this war is to accept it and stop pretending it has not been declared. What if instead of declaring war when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, we sent emissaries and gifts pretending the pilots and all the military support were criminals violating the orders of the command authority? What would be the response to demands for extradition to prosecute those “criminals”, Look at Hitler’s public response to Roosevelt’s totally inept and ludicrous telegram asking him not to invade a long list of countries. To be muslim is to be part of a criminal conspiracy to conquer, murder and enslave the world, not to be confused with a religion that aspires to earning converts in a free marketplace of ideas. Mo tried that in Mecca. HE FAILED along with his All-Knowing, All-Powerful, All-Merciful god. When he was run out of Mecca he decided to stop being nice and started mass killing and sharing the booty. That got him the “converts” and kept the war going to this day.
The Meccans found out how to deal with Mo for a while. Either we will take it from there or we will have the choices, except those who are Jews, to “convert, submit or die.” As I have written before, I hope we can find a way to victory without having a totalitarian cure that is worse than the disease, example German Nazism with its “order’ to end Communist chaos.
James Lincoln says
Frank,
An excellent, thought-provoking post – my compliments. It will probably take me a couple of days to fully process it…
Your references to World War II were spot on. Can you imagine what would’ve happened if the Allies had had today’s mindset, with significant members of the far left sympathizing and acting as apologists for the Axis powers? It’s frightening.
Take good care and much thanks.
Frank Anderson says
J.L. I was draft age during Vietnam. I was not drafted. I never asked for a 2S student deferment. I saw what the Communists did here in the US to lose the war. There has been no change in their intent or practices. Look at the confirmation proceedings in the US Senate. Communists are alive and well today hiding under the labels of progressive. liberal, globalist.
FYI says
Not Bonnie & Clyde
More like the islamic version of “Dumb and Dumber”:they put the mental in funda-mental.
The convert to islam too{Namoa},she finds Luurv with a moslem,joins the cult of mo the merciless,and finds an EXCUSE to do the evil that already most likely existed in her pathetic, twisted little soul and primitive,ignorant mind.
Conversion to islam:it brings out the worst in people.It preaches HATE.
That’s because the naive converts SUDDENLY have a great excuse:by following allah’s commandment-of-God violating teachings of the “holy” koran and the sunnah of muhammed the mass-murdering psycopath “prophet”,they are assured paradise for the evil they do.No need to obey any of those awkward commandments of Exodus 20 and of course there is no need to bother with God’s 2 chief laws either{obey the Commandments,LOVE others}..especially when mighty allah himself couldn’t be bothered with them ..and in fact tells muslims in k5:51 to do the OPPOSITE.
BTW there are ex-muslims and ex-converts to islam [see You Tube etc}who are warning people to stay the hell away from islam:There really is no excuse!Join the cult of mo the merciless and you will likely end up in jail as a convicted criminal,an idiot or a terrorist on a Police watch list.TRY something other than islam…
WPM says
Bonnie and Clyde were a bank robbing couple who murder people who got in their way. Murderers who the press at that time try to make out as heroes until they started their murder spree {banks who many lost all saving to when they failed in the 1930s were the real villains in the MSM of the 1930s } . Bonnie and Clyde goal was stealing money, murder was only a byproduct of their activity .This “young Moslem couple” here wanted to murder people for their fake god allah. The MSM likes to spin the lie terrorist Jihad is because Moslems are poor ,or oppressed ,or only a small fraction of them believe in Jihad. The MSM should call them Jihadist ,a young couple who living in freedom in a western country , unrepressed , had to strike out against non-believers because it is a large part of their Islamic faith. All terrorist murdering and proclaiming they are doing it for allah should be labeled Jihadist in the MSM ,not lone wolf , mentality unstable, or cute nick names like Bonnie and Clyde. If someone is proclaiming Hitler was right he is labeled a Nazi, if some joins a group of white robed hooded men who terrorist Blacks and Jews with crosses burning on their lawns he is a KKK member. This P.C. beating around the bush in the MSM is a large part of the problem. If someone proclaims they are going to be doing violence because of there Nazis political belief ,or there Islamic belief they should both be treated the same way in a court of law. Religious freedom should not shield people from facing the law when threating violence. People should be able to sight examples of religious sanctioned violence without their speaking out about it as “hate speech”. We should not be censured for speaking out about truth ,so we will not offended violent people who want to do us harm. If Nazis , and the KKK are looked at by the public as violent socially terrible groups to join at large because the truth is out about them ,main stream Islam should also fit into the box of bad violent ideas to follow.
Renate says
Since the motivation for terrorism is so different from the motivation for plain old criminal activity, the sentences should also be different. For terrorism, an automatic deportation of the terrorist and his whole family, back to their original Islamic country should follow the terrorist’s prison sentence.
Guy Forester says
San Bernardino, Miami, and Boston have shown us what wonderful family values emanate from certain belief systems.
gravenimage says
Australia: “Islamic Bonnie and Clyde” plotted New Year’s Eve jihad stabbing attack on non-Muslims
…………………….
Glad they were caught.
And these Jihadists’ aims are actually *much worse* even than Bonnie and Clyde. They were callous thugs, but murdered in the course of bank robberies–murdering people was not their ultimate goal as it was for these Jihadists.
El says
Jihadists should be executed no matter what
Mahendra Singh says
More appropriately, they should be termed Australia’s Syed Rizwan
Farouq and Tashfeen Malik, who in cold blood murdered 14 co-workers,
before dying in a hail of police bullets a few hours later.
In my knowledge Bonney and Clyde shot only in course of their
chosen line of business, that is robbery. There was no ideological
motivation in that act. In contrast, This couple was trying to kill as many
non-Muslims as possible in the path of Jihad.
gravenimage says
+1