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Detroit: Catholic college offers segregated Muslims-only classes

Oct 9, 2018 10:31 am By Robert Spencer

Celebrate diversity! When is an Islamic college going to offer Christians-only classes? Right, never. As always, “outreach” goes only one way, and the foolish dhimmi Christians involved in it never seem to notice that fact.

“Catholic College in Detroit is Offering Classes to an All-Muslim Group,” WDET, October 9, 2018 (thanks to Paul):

Steve Mustapha Elturk is getting his Master of Arts in Social Justice at Marygrove College, a small Catholic liberal arts school located in Detroit. During a class break, he walks down a hallway to a sparse room with a chalk board on the wall.

“This is an interfaith prayer room at Marygrove College,” says Elturk. “We have rugs in the basket for those who would like to pray during our times of prayer.”

As a practicing Muslim, Elturk prays five times a day. A few years back, the college converted the room to offer a space for everyone to pray, but particularly to accommodate its growing Muslim student population. Not long after that, Marygrove created a special social justice cohort exclusively for Muslim students like Elturk.

“Even at a Catholic college, there you go!” says Dr. Brenda Bryant, chair of Marygrove’s Social Justice Program. Bryant says the master’s program trains “scholar activists.” It was started after the September 11th attacks. This is the first time the school has had an all Muslim cohort.
WDET/Laura Herberg

The group is diverse. It’s made up of students who have been living in and around Detroit, but who originally came from the Middle East, Northern Africa, and Europe. They have professional backgrounds in media, art, education and more. Some are Sunni, some are “Shia.”

The idea for the program came from, Achmat Salie, a local Islamic faith leader who thought the program would be popular with Muslims who held high-level degrees from foreign countries that are sometimes less valued in the U.S. Bryant says the college was on board from the start. But she says some community members were a little confused as to why the group was segregated.

Related on WDET: CuriosiD: How Did Detroit Become a Center for Arabs in the United States?

“Actually when we announced it we had people say things like ‘Why did they have to meet together?’”

Bryant says the rationale was that, “We figured that as a group if they came together, they would have similar issues. And then they could support each other.”…

“Having a cohort of Muslim imams did bring readings and teachings from the Quran into the classroom,” says Burns. “You use it to build on where you’re going and make people realize, have people realize, that we are more alike than we are different. And it’s been a very good growth experience for our faculty as well as the students.”…

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  1. Spiro says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 10:51 am

    I’m sure the Imanis didn’t talk about the parts of the Koran that talks about killing Jews and people of the book
    Your diversity is playing into their hands remember they have NO moral obligation to tell non believers the truth
    The Catholic Church is so far gone
    Even the pope would defend the faith

    • Spiro says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 10:53 am

      Change would to wount

  2. Anne says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 11:00 am

    There are Christian ministries in Detroit who serve and love Muslims, maintaining their Christian purpose and identity. They have to learn to say, “This is who we are, we want to share Christ’s love with you”. If people complain about the Christian teachings, they learn to simply say, “There’s the door. You are welcome to come and go as you please.”

    Christians who stop believing that the way of Jesus and salvation through Him alone will naturally lead down the path of this article. They may not say it that way, but that reveals their true beliefs.

  3. mortimer says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 11:06 am

    Muslim-only classrooms ensure there will be no outbreak of CRITICAL THOUGHT.

    The purpose of Islamic education is not THOUGHT and ANALYSIS, but MEMORIZATION of orthodox formulas.

    This is the opposite of the catholic view of education: to teach the whole person.

    The Islamic model amputates critical reasoning.

    • Gbox says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 11:38 am

      Perfectly stated. It’s troubling why that is not understood by university administrators.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 4:36 pm

      Yes–and this university is under no obligation to provide a space for this Muslim supremacism.

  4. mortimer says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 11:09 am

    TAQLID IS THE PROBLEM WITH MUSLIM-ONLY CLASSROOMS …

    Taqlid is an Islamic doctrine that teaches Muslims to suppress critical thought at all costs. Taqlid means uncritical rote learning, unthinking memorization and unquestioning acceptance.

    The Koran warns Muslims not to ask probing questions…the obvious conclusion (that Islam is false and can be proved false by probing). Close examination of Islam will lead to discovering discrepancy and will make you lose your faith in Mohammed.
    Koran 005.101

    YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur’an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.
    Mohammed was able to modify his verses if people brought out problems with what he said, but Mo preferred blind, unquestioning acceptance of his every word.
    Koran 005.102

    YUSUFALI: Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.
    This is a serious matter for a Moslem: to lose one’s faith is to apostatize from Islam, and under Islamic Law this can be a death sentence. The “Reliance of the Traveller, A Classic Manual of Islamic Scared Law”, teaches us that even denying one Koran verse is to apostatize from Islam, and all apostates should be killed.

    Islam makes it impossible to use independent judgment in matters of religion, because then they may be lured to secrate place and murdered.

    Taqlid requires Muslims to believe that the Koran is perfect, eternal and complete, but if they find even one obvious contradition or error, they must concede the Koran is not perfect. This makes it impossible to believe Islam if one is honest. The end of Islam is near, because hundreds of errors are found in the Koran. Muslims are searching the internet and finding these Koranic mistakes an leaving Islam in large numbers.

    -Sheikh Shaamee Hanafi said: “Taqleed is to take the statement of someone without knowing the evidence.”

    -Sheikh ibn Humaam Hanafi said: “Taqleed is to act upon the statement of someone whose statement does not contain any evidence, rather it is without evidence.”

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 4:38 pm

      Thanks for that, Mortimer.

    • Terry Gain says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 7:11 pm

      Mortimer

      Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

    • Raphael Betanzos says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 7:28 am

      What proof do have to back up your statement that muslims are leaving in droves?
      I’ve read this before but need to see quantifiable evidence.

  5. Rachele Raanan says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 11:10 am

    “Where you stand depends upon where you sit.” Is this ‘diversity’ or ‘segregation’?

    By the way, what academic disciplines are studied in a “Social Justice Program” and what are “scholar activists?”

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 2:07 pm

      What is a scholar activist? That is a great question. From what I can determine it is someone who first of all has an ideal of what society should be like. Next, with this ideal in mind, the person works to gain knowledge but also tries to control the flow of any knowledge or information which he/she considers to be harmful to the creation of the ideal society. For example, it this person is a scientist, any discoveries which may be used in a manner this scientist deems harmful to society will be suppressed and kept from the public and especially the government. On the other hand, if a discovery is made which the scientist thinks will aid in moving society toward the ideals preferred by the scientist, all steps required in getting the public and the government to accept this discovery will be taken.

      Now, in place of “scientist” above, use “Islamic scholar” instead.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 9, 2018 at 4:44 pm

        In the past, “scholar activists” were just called demonstrators.

  6. Lynne says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 11:18 am

    When and wherever did Muslims accommodate any other religion? Never!

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 3:01 pm

      “And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him…”
      Koran 3:85, part of Islamic law.

  7. andra says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    It is really worrying that the US do not learn anything although you have voted in Trump. Where are those who have voted for Trumpf because of his clear anti-Islamisation plans? I just do not get it that the US are so keen on being islamized although you can see day by day what that means for the future.

    • James Lincoln says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      andra,

      President Trump absolutely hates Islam. I believe that if he were totally cut loose, he would close down every US Mosque and deport all Muslims.

      In reality, he is not even been able to build the southern wall or sign off on a sane immigration plan because of the far left and, unfortunately, some members of the Republican Party.

      • andra says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 5:18 am

        I do believe as well that Trump is working on the Problem. But I do not see those who have voted for him. Where are the public protest against the silent Islamisation of your country which still take place?

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Oct 10, 2018 at 5:48 am

          andra, have you seen the size of the crowds at Trump’s rallies? These people will be voting in a few weeks’ time in the US mid-term elections. A Republican victory means that Trump will be more able to implement his programs. This is not the time for ‘mass protest against Islamisation’. Besides, unlike other Western leaders, DJT is opposed to creeping Islam, and is working quietly behind the scenes to undo the damage inflicted by Obama.

    • Terry Gain says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 6:58 pm

      Trump has much on his plate and the opposition to him is well funded and fervent. I don’t see him addressing Islam for the menace that it is until his second term.

      • StellaSaidSo says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 5:38 am

        Indeed, Terry, there never was a POTUS more besieged by enemies than DJT. He has achieved an extraordinary amount, under the circumstances. He is well aware of the Muslim threat, and I agree that we will see some serious results in his second term (if not sooner). It is absolutely essential that the Democrats do not gain the advantage in the mid-terms.

        • James Lincoln says

          Oct 10, 2018 at 8:53 am

          StellaSaidSo,

          Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell called opposition to now Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh “a great political gift to Republicans”.

          Let’s hope that he is right.

  8. Liz says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    The original article on WDET states: “The college had to close its undergraduate school earlier in the year due to declining enrollment. ” These classes are a desperate measure by misguided administrators.

  9. Rev G says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    Just what we need, a church-provided meeting place for diverse Muslims to come together and plot their “social justice”.

  10. TWG says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    “Masters of Arts in Social Justice”?
    Yet another useless degree in the real world. Who wants to hire these sniveling crybullies?

    • Kepha says

      Oct 9, 2018 at 10:06 pm

      Were I a hiring manager, if I saw that degree on a resume, I’d circular file it ASAP.

  11. gravenimage says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    Detroit: Catholic college offers segregated Muslims-only classes
    …………………….

    Sickening. And notice that Marygrove College began pandering to Muslims right after 9/11. Who says Jihad terrorism doesn’t work?

  12. nicholas tesdorf says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    This is yet another nail in Detroit’s coffin.

  13. ConstantineXI says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 6:22 pm

    One of the problems is that government agencies such as state discrimination enforcement agencies and the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission are sometimes forcing employers to accommodate Muslim Sharia Rules on the grounds employers have to provide “religious accommodation”.

  14. FYI says

    Oct 9, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    I doubt pope saint francis will be paying any attention to such matters ..despite the fact that he recently boasted about his astonishing skill in a Tweet{3:17 AM -4 June 2018}.. a Tweet which has mysteriously disappeared..

    “I don’t read the Bible.I listen to it”

    Most people read books:francis listens to them{and he doesn’t mean Audiobooks}
    He apparently studied the koran{read or listened to it?} and said that “a proper reading of the koran shows it to be opposed to every form of violence”.Even the Gospel does not make that claim.

    That’s like saying that a “proper reading” of hitler’s mein kampf shows it be a book on Jewish folklore
    and deeply respectful of the role of Jews in the world.

    Besides,as I believe the catholic remnant surely know by now,pope saint francis is too busy undermining the catholic faith and disparaging Christianity as the pro-islam,pro-NWO apologist that he is.Recently,he has decided to blame the devil for all those scandals: a neat trick to deflect attention from his and his senior Churchmen’s failures.

    Yes it is all the fault of the devil, francis!
    An excellent deflection trick so that he will appear to be the good guy:deflect attention AWAY from him and the RCC Church Administrators.

    It’s funny how he loves to claim he LISTENS as it seems he has a hearing deficiency..

    “Cardinal mcWho?What’s that now?what cover ups?Cardinal Bernard Law?Do you mean canon law..I’m sorry i find it hard to hear…i love the poor!….islam is the religion of peace….i’ll punch anyone who insults my mother…whaat?”

  15. Jay says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 1:31 am

    Perhaps the local National Guard Armory could come in and provide shiny new free weapons and ammo to the moslems as they support each other? Just sayin. You do know that the koran is a terrorist planning handbook — right?

  16. Twerzig says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 6:29 am

    They should smoke pot.
    Or have magic mushroom sandwiches.
    Once when I ate to many magic mushrooms
    I saw Jesus.
    Well at least I think it was Jesus
    cos it didn’t really look like him.
    He was the last thing I could
    hold on to before things got
    really crazy.
    I nearly bit my phone in half.
    The old man ate mushrooms too.
    But my Mother said he had to stop
    because he never went to sleep.
    I wonder if my long lost Brother likes shrooms.
    We could do a trip together.
    Trip is short for tryptamine by the way.
    Roll on next mushroom season.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 1:41 pm

      How long do you remain in the real world between trips?

  17. Richard says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 10:20 am

    What a shameful disgrace for Catholicism. Once again religion seeks to hide the truth and conform to this world for the sake of evil Islam! Catholicism will reap what it sows!

    • K Smith says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 12:13 am

      Richard….what you don’t understand is that Francis and those pervert priests are no more Catholic than Obama was. They never really practiced the true faith, and the rest of us are being painted with the same broad brush. Believe me when I tell you that most Catholics are horrified by Francis and the perverts he has been protecting. This situation has little to do with religion and everything to do with communist infiltration of the Church beginning back in the 1930’s. Believe me when I tell you that the Church will survive, but only after a great purge has taken place. Remember that Jesus said the gates of Hell will not prevail against his church. This video is about the vision Pope Leo XIII had in 1884 in which he saw what would happen after Jesus allowed Satan more power for 100 years. We are living in the culminating time of that century and Satan will not go quietly……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_RGaFxdos8….Pray for the Church

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 12:31 am

      Sadly, quite a few universities are doing things like this. It is not just Catholic colleges.

  18. Screeminmeeme says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:22 am

    Trojan horse.

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