In this video, Bolton speaks plain and obvious truths. That what he said is at all controversial is a manifestation of how far the establishment media and the establishment Left have strayed from reality.
“John Bolton says Palestine ‘is not a state,'” by Steven Nelson, Washington Examiner, October 3, 2018:
National security adviser John Bolton defended calling Palestine a “so-called state,” saying Wednesday “it is not a state.”
Bolton, speaking to reporters in the White House briefing room, said that denying Palestine’s statehood isn’t counterproductive as the Trump administration prepares to unveil a Mideast peace plan.
“It’s not a state now. It does not meet the customary international law test of statehood,” he said. “It doesn’t control defined boundaries. It doesn’t fulfill normal functions of government. There are a whole host of reasons why it’s not a state.”
“It could become a state, as the president said, but that requires diplomatic negotiations with Israel and others,” Bolton continued….
“Calling it the so-called state of Palestine defines exactly what it has been, a position that the United States government has pursued uniformly since 1988 when the Palestinian authority declared itself to be the State of Palestine,” he said. “We don’t recognize it as the State of Palestine, we have consistently across Democratic and Republican administrations opposed the admission of Palestine to the United Nations as a state because it’s not a state.”
Ren says
That’s a fact. Palestine is not a state.
mortimer says
The flag of Jordan and the ‘Palestinian’ flag are the same but for the star which represents the royal Hashemite family.
There is no difference between Jordan and Palestine in the minds of most Arabs in the region.
Pallies should simply get a Jordanian passport.
shortfattexan says
Anti-Semites often call for Israel to return to its “pre-1967” borders, to which I generally reply “Should Palestine also return to its pre-1967 borders?” It is surprising how many Israel-haters say “yes”, revealing their total ignorance of history.
My preferred solution would be for Israel to annex Gaza and the West Bank outright, but I realize that’s never going to happen.
My second choice would be for Egypt to resume control of Gaza and for Jordan to take back the West Bank, with the caveat that all of Jerusalem and its surrounding area remain firmly part of Israel. Again, that’s never going to happen. Neither Egypt nor Jordan want to deal with the heartache of trying to keep the Palestinians (I know, there’s no such thing as a Palestinian, but it’s easier to say “Palestinians” than “Arabs who live in Gaza and the West Bank”) in line. Not to mention the fact that the Jordanians do not trust the Palestinians at all, memories of Black September still lingering in the minds of most of the Jordanian leadership.
The Western fantasy of a Palestinian country, co-existing peacefully with all its neighbors, including Israel, is also never going to happen. The Palestinians have no desire to peacefully co-exist with Israel.
I hate to say it, but the most likely outcome is a permanent continuation of the current status quo. The Palestinians launch attack after attack after attack; the Israelis eventually have enough of the attacks and invade and occupy; the occupation forces the Palestinians to settle down a little; the reduction in amount of Palestinian terrorist activity causes Israel to withdraw; the reduced Israeli military presence allows the Palestinians to start launching attacks again; and the cycle just repeats forever. A sad state of affairs, certainly, but there are no realistic alternatives.
Of course, another possibility that I don’t like to think about (but which is still a possibility nonetheless) is the complete destruction of Israel and the creation of a Judenrein Palestinian state. Obviously the Palestinians can’t do this by themselves, but if enough other nations get involved (and especially if the US decides not to get involved) it could happen. We can hope that it won’t happen, but we can’t ignore the possibility.
Baucent says
Or better still, move there.
libertyORdeath says
The reason for the flag similarities is because the kingdom of Jordan is a part of the mandate of Palestine and was intended to be the arab’s majority share of the land. Israel was to receive less than 25% of the total land which included israel, transjordan and parts of syria and Lebanon. Since then the arabs have used constant violence to continue to shrink Israel’s borders with the ultimate goal of the destruction of israel.
How we have been sold these ludicrous lies for so long and helped perpetuate them is beyond me. This is a simple matter when violence and terrorism are subtracted.
Israel including judea, samaria and all “Palestinian” territories are the rightful land of the Israeli people and jews as a whole. Trans-Jordan is the land belonging to the Arabs of the former mandate of Palestine.
Simple as that.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Ren
Yep. But according to the UN, it is; the ‘Palestinian Authority’ is listed as one of 57 ‘states’ which comprise the OIC.
James Taylor says
There is no Palestinian State.
It is not a Member State of the UN.
http://www.un.org/en/member-states/index.html#gotoP
It only has Non-member Permanent Observer status.
http://www.un.org/en/sections/member-states/non-member-states/index.html
StellaSaidSo says
Correct, but to the casual observer, the inclusion of the ‘Palestinian Authority’ within the UN amounts to the same thing. ANY status at the UN confers legitimacy. Observer status is viewed by the ‘Palestinians’ (and their OIC pals) as a stepping stone to full membership.
den says
State of Jihad
Buraq says
That statement of fact makes Jeremy Corbyn’s declared aim to recognize Palestine, if his Labour Party win the next British election, totally bizarre.
Corbyn’s a fantasist, leftist clown!
violeta svabauskiene says
That’s quite reght: “We don’t recognize it as the State of Palestine, we have consistently across Democratic and Republican administrations opposed the admission of Palestine to the United Nations as a state because it’s not a state.”
Berengaria says
The So-Called State of Palestine, has been making out Beautifully, all these years, without being a REAL Country.
They have extorted Billions from Real Nations, until President Trump put a “Stall” on their Operations.
Now, they’re crying & demanding replacement Funds for their Terrorist
Activities.
Hopefully, the Western Nations will become Sensible enough to cut off so-called Funds(Tribute) to these Murderers.
In the Meantime, Cheers for President Trump, & Shame on other Nations who continue to Financially Support “Aid to So-Called Martyrs”.
Krishna says
Gaza is failed state
But West Bank has an functioning government like small elections, international relations, Universities, airports, military etc and more than 100 countries recognize Palestine so I don’t 100% agree Palestine is not official state
RichardL says
A functioning government? Elections? The universities are a joke, I can assure you. And by your reasoning Gaza is another state?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Is this another madman Bolton not aware of multilateral treaty adopted by the United Nations in Resolution No 181 creating two states, Palestine and fascist evil Zionist State of Israel? when palestine lost its state status? He should remember, the annexation and occupation of Palestine by fascist evil Zionist State of Israel was declared illegal by the UN in Resolution No 241.t is the same UN Resolution No 181 creating Palestine and fascist evil Zionist State of Israel also defined borders between palestine and fascist evil Zionist State. How can this evil madman say that palestine has no defined borders? who cancelled it? Again, since evil United States endorsed the multilateral treaty adopted by the United Nations recögnising Palestine as a state, evil United States cannot validly withdraw it’s recognition of Palestine as a state. Such withdrawal of recognition by evil United States has no legal effect whatsoever in the same way as recognition of Jerusalem as capital of fascist evil Zionist State of Israel. I submit that the statement by this evil madman Bolton is a flaw, a Bullshit. wicked scums of evils!!
Johnnie Carmichael says
Every time Ibrahim says “evil fascist Zionist state” everybody has to take a shot of Tequilla (not to be confused with Taquiyya). Cheers!!!
Indiana Tom says
Well, evil fascist Zionist state is a good shot of Taqiyya.
gravenimage says
+1
Buraq says
@ Ibrahim itace Mohamed
Hi habibi! Still talking nonsense, I see. Resolution 181 was accepted by Israel and rejected out of hand by the Arab world. So, the so-called Palestinians rejected the opportunity to have a State recognized by the United Nations and all its members.
You’re a 5 star clown! And I throw all my shoes at you!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Buraq, UN Resolution No 181 has never stipulated that the affected parties must ratify or accept it before it can have legal force. As such rejection by Arab states or even palestinians or Israelites have no effect whatsoever.
gravenimage says
In other words, Ibrahim itace muhammed is saying that Muslims can reject the tenets of civilized law with impunity, yet still be protected by it for all time.
Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed has admitted that his goal is to see the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews; but he is fine with using Infidel laws if he thinks it will help him get there.
don vito says
itace, wasn’t palestine one of the moslem nations “evil USA” destroyed (snicker) way back when, the prophet freed (snicker) the slaves?
James Lincoln says
Why are you so in love with the word “evil”? You used the word 11 times in this one posting.
At least try to expand your vocabulary and mix it up a little bit.
Suggestions: wicked, bad, immoral, sinful, file, corrupt, depraved, etc., etc.
Tom W Harris says
Shut up, fool.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Buraq, UN Resolution No 181 is based on multilateral treaty and as such no state or group of states have power to reject it because it has never stipulated that the affected parties must ratify or accept it before it can have legal force. As such rejection by Arab states or even palestinians or Israelites have no effect whatsoever. So, the so-called negations between Palestinians and fascist evil Zionists is just a waste of time because they cannot alter the Resolution creating the two states, Palestine and fascist evil Zionist State of Israel.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is so enraged that Muslims cannot violate Infidel laws with impunity and still continue to use them where it is useful to them that he is just wildly spamming here.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, are you saying multilateral treaties are based on inspirations from your satan god you call Holy Spirit? Remember, the holy Prophet Muhammad negotiated and entered into treaties with non-muslims, including your masters the evil Jews which they breached. As such Resolution No 181 is valid under sharia.
FYI says
You mean the Unholy “prophet”.I heard from somewhere that he was a “disgusting scum of horrible bad smells”.It was allah in a cave and he said it to the “angel” jibreel{“the enemy of the Jews”}so it is obviously true and cannot be denied.
As for “palestine”:it’s a state alright.
A state of delusion and denial of reality..which is why the Leftards are enamored with it.
balam says
Ibrahim Lettace Mohammad: CAN YOU TELL ME ONE ‘holy thing’ about your prophet Mohammad? Mustafa Kemal Ataturk called ISLAM AS THE ABSURD THEOLOGY OF AN IMMORAL BEDOUIN[MOHAMMAD].Ref: holy terror by Amir Taheri page 187.What do you think about that?
balam says
Ibrahim: It is the DEMONIC SPIRIT of Mohammad which is dwelling in you like most Muslims.Islam in a Muslim was like RABIES in a DOG wrote Sir.Winston Churchill.He was so right.
gravenimage says
We see what the “Prophet’s” treaties with the Jews were worth. Within his lifetime he slaughtered and enslaved all the Jewish tribes of Medina.
And note Ibrahim itace muhammed’s referring to the “evil Jews” as ‘our masters’.
He has said before that we only object to Muslims raping and murdering us because we are slaves of the Jews.
This is how pious Muslims think–that if they are not enslaving us that someone else must be. The idea that people can live freely is utterly alien to them.
Indiana Tom says
I agree with the John Birch Society and say get the USA out of the UN which is nothing but a third world crap machine.
DHazard says
What is Palestine?
Palestine is an imaginary state with imaginary ethnicity, imaginary problems, imaginary god, imaginary education, imaginary empathy, imaginary laws AND real ignorance, real hatred, real murder, real rape, real Islamophobia, real homophobia, real misogyny and lots of first cousin marriages.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Dhazard, call Palestine whatever name you wish, but the fact still remains that palestine is a state recognised under international Law. All attempts by apartheid evil United States and fascist evil Zionist State of Israel to circumvent the law has failed and It will continue failing. Scums of evils!!
gravenimage says
Actually, there are virtually no civilized nations that recognize such an entity.
StellaSaidSo says
The ‘Palestinian Authority’ is one of 57 ‘states’ which make up the OIC, the largest voting bloc in the UN. It would appear, therefore, that ‘civilised nations’ do accept ‘Palestinian’ legitimacy.
gravenimage says
StellaSaidSo, if you see what countries accept the idea of a Palestinian state, they include *very* few civilized nations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine
Really, the only countries that I would consider at all civilized here would be Sweden, Iceland, and India–the first two are now riven with “political correctness” and socialism; the latter has a large and ugly Muslim population.
Most of the rest are semi-free, unfree, and/or Muslim countries.
The US (my country), Canada, Australia (your own country), New Zealand, Israel, Japan, South Korea, and most of Western Europe do *not* recognize the Jihadist “Palestinians” as a state.
I know that you have repeatedly sneered at the idea of our being civilized, but really, I think this *is* important.
And a lot of what the United Nations does is uncivilized, including their incessant condemnation of democratic Israel defending herself against Jihad.
Indiana Tom says
What is Palestine?
A corrupt third world sheethole.
The Palestinian Leaders do very well skimming the funds into their offshore bank accounts and live the good life.
Palestinians make their own little Hell Hole and the surrounding Muslim countries keep the whole thing going to keep up the hatred towards Israel and the West. Per Nonie Darwish, everyone in Egypt and other ME countries knows this,.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, Indian muslims are more good looking than you white monkeys .Look at savage mad devil Trump and madman Bolton, they look like old baboons. Have you ever seen Indian muslim ladies with beautiful and shining black hairs unlike your ladies with grey hairs?
gravenimage says
It looks as though Ibrahim itace muhammed is so obsessed with me that he thinks that he is now confused about Indiana Tom.
He wrote:
Liar Gravenimage, Indian muslims are more good looking than you white monkeys .
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Well, this is just strange. Neither Indiana Tom nor I said anything here–or elsewhere, that I know of–about Indians, White people, or the attractiveness of different ethnicities. How bizarre. Certainly, this is a subject I have never considered to be of any interest at all, and it certainly has *nothing* to do with the Jihad against Israel, nor of anything else of any substance.
More:
Look at savage mad devil Trump and madman Bolton, they look like old baboons.
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You mean that there are some men that Ibrahim itace muhammed *isn’t* attracted to?
This is absurd, in any case–whether any individual Muslim is sexually attracted to these Western leaders is quite immaterial. What matters is that they generally grasp the truth about the Jihad threat, and are not afraid to say so.
More:
Have you ever seen Indian muslim ladies with beautiful and shining black hairs unlike your ladies with grey hairs?
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Well, this is just ridiculous. Humans of all ethnicities go gray with age–Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, Indians–everyone.
I suppose it is because Ibrahim itace muhammed is so used to adult Muslim Indian women being immured in Hijabs–or because he himself is only exposed to child brides–that he does not understand that Indian women go gray like everyone else.
Here’s one gray-haired older Indian lady:
http://polkacafe.s3.amazonaws.com/articles/thumbs/ti_725_6872.5739316241.jpg
and here is another:
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DWRMG4/south-southern-india-tamil-nadu-madurai-thirumalai-nayakar-palace-DWRMG4.jpg
Of course, there are thousands of other such images.
Pete says
You can see fellow muslimas hair?
Thats reason enough for you to rape them
Go on you have your “prophets” blessings
dave koret says
seems mr/mrs itace muham is unaware that u n g a resolutions have no legal STANDING. as 181 was never accepted by the muzzies it was outa the door quicker than a nine year old virgin.
Don says
The flag of “palestine” is a colonialist flag. What evidence do I have? It’s the same flag as 5 other Islamist countries, or territories, and is the flag of Mecca. It’s the same flag as Sudan. Now look up Sudan’s history under its Hijjaz colonialist flag. That Iranian backed, Islamist, African nation had what, 4 separate genocides in the past 50 years?
Conversely, there are no flags or cultures like Israel, none even close. Jews, one of the greatest, most important, and peaceful peoples of all time, were accused of all things including all power, but in fact didn’t have even a country where they wern’t abused consistently. Chicago has a city flag which is similar, Morocco used to have the Jewish star on its flag, and a small rebellious independent territory in Turkey which was paying homage to the Jews had a Jewish star as a flag. These are not colonialist symbols, one was at the time a semi autonomous relatively “secular” Islamic kingdom (with many Jews), the other is a secular Christian majority city (with many Jews), the other was a short lived territory of the Ottoman Caliphate which had very few Jews and was Islamic, relatively “secular”. Also all 3 of those places were enlightened and good for their times and places (Farrakhan’s Chicago recently is up for debate). The states with the variations of the Hijjaz flag are all the same – genocidal, Isamist, lying, terroristic and colonialist.
WPM says
True reject the law outright themselves (181) in 1948 then want everyone else to respect the law in 2018 .The poverty plantation of Palestine with its rulers for life leaders {poverty pimps} holding out their beggar bowls for western nations to put bribes in for the promise to keep the natives calm. The leaders for life squirreling the money into off shore accounts while “their” people live in squalor. Why would the leaders ever try to run the “area” in any sane legal manner ,they would lose all the billions they stole from their own “people”. Do the leaders want the benefits of statehood without the responsibility of running a nation ?Or do they just want the facade of asking for statehood nation ,while turning down any terms for it at least 5 times in the last 70 years? How can Israel get peace with a” nation” whose only mission statement is to wipe them off the map? Whose leaders are so tied to terrorist organizations they would forgo garbage pick up ,education, health clinics ,over financing rockets fired daily at Israel ? Financing provide in great extend from Western countries and Israel for “humanitarian “aid.