Stephane Ravier, Marseille’s 7th district National Rally mayor, said: “Leftist elected officials, socialist and communist, refused that a place in the 15th district be named after Arnaud Beltrame, in the first time, they’ve said, under fallacious pretext, that this place wasn’t prestigious enough, before telling the truth in these terms: we are on the field, we witnessed that the population has changed and if we give the name of Arnaud Beltrame in this district, the population will take that as a provocation”
If these officials are not decisively voted out at the earliest possible opportunity, France is finished. And it may already be anyway.
“French hero, who sacrificed himself to save a hostage from an Islamist, won’t have a place named after him as ‘it may offend Muslims,’” by Abdelhamid Kaddour, Voice of Europe, October 13, 2018:
French hero Arnaud Beltrame, who sacrificed himself to save a hostage from a Islamist terrorist, won’t have a place named after him because it may upset Marseille’s huge Muslim community, Valeurs Actuelles reports.
On 24 March 2018, an ISIS terrorist stormed a supermarket in Trèbes, armed with a handgun, a hunting knife and three homemade bombs. He shot two people dead and took others hostage.
During the negotiation with the police, the terrorist accepted Beltrame’s offer to swap places with the last hostage, a female cashier….
After a three-hour stand-off with the police, Radouane Lakdim, the 25-year-old terrorist, stabbed (even though rumours circulated that he sliced Beltrame’s throat) and murdered Arnaud Beltrame.
But apparently, paying tribute to Beltrame’s sacifice is seen as being potentially offensive by Marseille’s leftist elected officials.
Here’s what Stephane Ravier, Marseille’s 7th district National Rally mayor, revealed during a town council with Marseille’s elected officials.
“Leftist elected officials, socialist and communist, refused that a place in the 15th district be named after Arnaud Beltrame, in the first time, they’ve said, under fallacious pretext, that this place wasn’t prestigious enough, before telling the truth in these terms: we are on the field, we witnessed that the population has changed and if we give the name of Arnaud Beltrame in this district, the population will take that as a provocation”….
StellaSaidSo says
No surprises. Nearly half the population of Marseille is Muslim.
Maybe another French town or city will step up and honour this brave young man.
billrla says
Re-name Marseille “Arnaud Beltrame.”
JM says
Good post!
Roderick MacUalraig says
Great idea.
gravenimage says
Marseilles is estimated to be about 25% Muslim, which is quite horrifying.
StellaSaidSo says
Marseille is almost 50% Muslim. As I noted above.
Salome says
The most common second language in its schools is French.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Salome
Sadly, yes.
It is predicted that Marseilles will be the first Muslim majority French city. Prochainement.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi,
Where would that figure come from?
The immigrants are not all Muslims, and the Muslims might be just over 25% in Marseille.
Amitiés
StellaSaidSo says
@ LVT
The Muslim population of Marseilles was recorded at 40% in 2014, and has grown rapidly since. Last I heard, it was approaching 50%. Official sources are often inaccurate when it comes to numbers of immigrants, as so many arrivals are undocumented, and numbers have increased since 2015. Besides, the authorities don’t want us to know the real situation. The 25% figure quoted by Wikipedia is out-of-date.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir,
You can not properly count a community in France, your numbers could be off and the Muslim population overestimated in Marseille by specific media http://www.fdesouche.com/586201-marseille-les-musulmans-representent-un-quart-de-la-population-totale-200-000-personnes.
My brother lives near Marseille and he feels the same way I do. Many Muslims are concentrated in neighborhoods in Marseille (les quartiers nord) as is the case here in Toulouse.
Amitiés
StellaSaidSo says
@ LVT
I agree, in a country which does not record religion or ethnicity in its census, precise numbers are difficult to obtain. However, there are other ways of ascertaining the components of a population. In 2011, the Soros-funded Open Society Foundation estimated the Muslim population in Marseilles at between 30% and 40%. The 40% figure for 2014, which I quoted above, is from World Population Review. It is reasonable to assume a significant increase since 2014, due to the overall increase in numbers of Muslims arriving in Europe since 2015 (many of them undocumented), and the high fertility rate. Certainly, amongst non-Muslim inhabitants of Marseilles whom I met in 2017, there is a strong sense of imminent minority status. I wish the figure of 25% was correct, but it would seem unlikely. Yes, the concentration of Muslims within specific neighbourhoods is typical of any Western city with a sizeable Muslim population.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi,
Maybe, but Fdesouche is patriotic media. My brother worked in Marseille and he stands by his words, and l do not trust Soros. As I said propaganda, disinformation, disheartening news, are instruments of psychological warfare. We must avoid falling into this trap.
Who wants the war will do his best to make sure that the war brakes out.
Amitiés
StellaSaidSo says
@ LVT
As I said, I wish the % was lower. I don’t trust Soros, either, but, as you can see from my previous post, his organisation is not the only source I found which reports 40%, and it is reasonable to assume considerable growth since 2014.
It is easy to understand why some authorities might deliberately under-estimate certain figures (eg migrant crime statistics), but why they would inflate total population figures is a little puzzling. I guess we will have to conduct our own census!
Here’s some depressing news – Pew Research estimates that between 2015 and 2060, the Muslim population will grow twice as fast as the total world population.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Hi,
“Pew Research estimates that between 2015 and 2060, the Muslim population will grow twice as fast as the total world population”, these figures should be treated with cautio because many Muslims leave Islam clandestinely and subsaharan population, mostly Christian, is currently the fastest growing.
Amitiés
gravenimage says
Wikipedia cites six separate studies estimating the Muslim population at between 20% and 25%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_the_European_Union_by_Muslim_population
Some of these are from a few years ago; true–but still, I have not been able to find a single study estimating the population at 50%.
Soros is the sole outlier I can find, saying the Muslim population was “30-40%” in 2011–but the main point he is claiming is that even though Marseilles has such a huge Muslim population that they are oppressed by the mean and bigoted French. Here’s a review of this:
http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2011/09/marseilles-is-30-40-muslim.html
I’m not sure I’d take him as gospel, given his agenda–and even he is not claiming that Marseilles is half Muslim.
Certainly, 25% itself is horrifying enough–but I do want to be as accurate as possible. Certainly, if anyone can cite reputable studies showing that Marseilles is 50% Muslim, I would be very interested in seeing them.
StellaSaidSo says
@ LVT
This is the source I referred to in my 7:03am Oct 15. Sorry it took a while to find.
In 2012 the BBC World Service predicted that Marseilles ‘could soon become the first Muslim majority city in Western Europe’.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00sdr86
@ gravenimage
I said ‘almost 50%’, not ‘50%’. You do want to be as accurate as possible.
gravenimage says
StellaSaidSo, thank you for the link.
I can’t play that segment, but the headline does indeed make the point.
StellaSaidSo says
@ LVT
Pew Research is a very reliable source, LVT.
‘While the world’s population is projected to grow 32% in the coming decades, the number of Muslims is expected to increase by 70%…’
See ‘Pew Research Muslims Fastest-growing Religious Group’ for further information.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour StellaSaidSo,
Pew Research does not mention that the sub-Saharan population is mostly Christian and one should not forget that China could become the biggest Christian nation by 2030 http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/may/china-could-become-the-biggest-christian-nation-by-2030s.
Before talking about statistics on the growing Muslim population, it is important to know the number of “Muslims” who are susceptible to leave Islam now and in the future. When I read Pew Research I thought the dice were loaded, something was fishy.
Best wishes from Toulouse France
Charles says
Graven Image: have you not noticed that Mr Spencer has properly spelled the town “Marseille” and not as you spelled it ?
gravenimage says
Charles, both spellings are correct in English.
And–with all respect–is this your only concern here?
J D S says
“It may offend Muslims”…..
I don’t know about everyone else but Muslims who are “pushing” sure offend me and do do any and all Leftist-Socialist-Communist who seem to be doing most if the “pushing” by trying to force something upon the world that the world will never be ready for.
I see blood in the streets and a world that will probably never recover to what we would like to see our world look like.
As I have said before….There are no airplane engines whirring overhead, dropping bombs on our cities. No tanks grinding their tracks in our streets. No Muslim armies with the stomp of boots marching in our streets. Multitudes of Citizens are not being dragged from their homes into the streets and beheaded or otherwise murdered or enslaved…Yet the world is being attacked from ALL sides and our freedoms are being eroded on a daily basis.
Where does the fault lie? Mostly at the feet of Muslims but not entirely. Western leaders are much complacent in this….They have failed us by not looking into the future and taking necessary action to stop total migration, st least till they studied the situation more.
In Europe, other than allowing mass migration, two things contributed.
Firstly after they allowed mass migration they allowed fighters to return to the battle field and secondly they allowed their return after they left the battle field. So much blame can also be placed at the feet of western leaders….and some blame can be laid a at the feet of a complacent populate….Replace those leaders who fail you. That is what’s needed right now.
christianblood says
He was a fool! He should have done it!
christianblood says
(Correction)
He was a fool! He should not have done it!
gravenimage says
You’re saying that this hero was a fool for saving a woman from Jihad?
christianblood says
gravenimage
What he did was no heroism in that neither himself, nor the woman he saved nor their state had any understanding with they are dealing with!
gravenimage says
I don’t know if the woman this brave man saved understands the full threat of Islam or not–and I doubt he had time to grill her on the depth of her knowledge before acting. Nor do I know how much Arnaud Beltrame himself grasped about the full evil of Islam.
But he knew enough to recognize the terrible danger she was in from the Jihadists, and to act to save her. He certainly understood enough to know that she was in mortal danger, or else he would never have offered the hostage swap.
Of course, I wish Arnaud Beltrame were still with us, and that he’d been able to take the Jihadist murderers out, or at least escape himself–but this is not always possible.
To say he is a fool and no hero for saving this woman’s life as he did is just appalling.
Elisha says
The tongue of the wise makes knowledge acceptable, But the mouth of fools spouts folly. – Proverbs 15:2
christianblood says
Elisha
(…He who is guarantor for a stranger will surely suffer for it, But he who hates being a guarantor is secure…) Prov 11:15
WPM says
You are lumping the police officer, the woman hostage with the people running France? The police officer made the choice to put himself in harms way to save a women from Jihadist. Are you saying that in itself is not heroism in action? If the same thing happen in Russia and a Russia police officer lost his life doing that ,I would also think it was heroism in action. Your hate of the West blinds you to individuals who make up society and their free will to put themselves in harms way to protect others. So in saying you believe it was not heroism ,you agree with the Moslems he should not be honored? What is your definition of heroism?
gravenimage says
Spot on, WPM.
tim gallagher says
I agree with you, WPM and gravenimage. I fail to see any way that this police officer was not a hero. If any of us face dangerous situations like the police officer did, we have a second or so to act bravely ( ie heroically) or we can fail the test and not jump into the dangerous situation, which is understandable. I think this policeman was exactly what a hero is. It reminds me of the firemen and policemen who ran towards the buildings involved in the 9/11 attacks in New York instead of running away from the buildings as most people were doing. In any dangerous situation, whether involving some Muslim terrorist or not, such as, say, dragging someone out of a vehicle which is about to explode, a person who puts their life in danger to help another person is surely heroic
gravenimage says
Fine post, Tim.
christianblood says
WPM
The police officer was indeed a fool! How did he even know the woman was an islamist and a jihadist sympathizer?
WPM says
Where is there any proof she was an Islamist and Jihadist sympathizer ??”How did he even know the woman was an Islamist and a Jihadist sympathizer” .I guess her being a French woman she has to be an Islamist in your eyes you do inhabit a strange world inside your own head .Better to kill the Jihadist and all the hostages like they do in the good old USSR. No need to put police lives in danger try to save innocent French women, they must all be sympathizers because they live in the corrupt west and we all deserve death. When the Chechen rebels kill all those school children a few years ago ,in your eyes it would not pay for the police to try to save them how do you know the children or their parents are not Jihad sympathizers .I would not say that ,but it perfectly logical in your head if the government of a country does not agree with your “world view” all it citizens should be up for death by violent Jihad because some of its citizens are Islamic sympathizers. Just for the record I am not happy with the United States relationship with the Saudis ,, but Iran is not any better a country to partner up on the world stage. I do not shout out with glee on the web when the Jihadist attack men women and children in Russia. These people are victims just as much as the citizens of France ,Germany, England and America .The main enemy of all non-Moslem people of the world is the Jihads ,it does not matter to them if you live in Moscow, New York City ,or Berlin or the Philippines for that matter they want you dead or to convert or to be their slaves. There are brave men and women that put there lives on the line protecting us from these stone age savages that when the lost their lives deserve some respect from the people they are protecting. I guess I am a fool because I think police who lay down their lives protecting women and children from Islamic savages ,be they France , American or Russian deserve some kind of respect.
Lookmann says
I am reminded of a ‘Hollwood’ proverb. (I heard it in several movies)
No good thing goes unpunished.
StellaSaidSo says
+1
You’re close! ‘No good deed goes unpunished’. Very apt.
Rufolino says
(Said by the millionaire who gave his magnificent collection of paintings to the National Gallery Washington DC and was had up for tax-evasion.)
joscefi says
Ever wonder how the French earned the name “Cheese eating surrender monkeys”?
Lavéritétriomphera says
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jWEJU4F62a8#
Lavéritétriomphera says
It appears that it is the Left-wingers who refused to “offend” Muslims, but you can be assured that we will not leave it at that.
StellaSaidSo says
+1
Zenobia van Dongen says
Dear Mr Spencer:
I appreciate your blog very much, but the translations that you post are dreadful.
Your original translation reads:
Stephane Ravier, Marseille’s 7th district National Rally mayor, said: “Leftist elected officials, socialist and communist, refused that a place in the 15th district be named after Arnaud Beltrame, in the first time, they’ve said, under fallacious pretext, that this place wasn’t prestigious enough, before telling the truth in these terms: we are on the field, we witnessed that the population has changed and if we give the name of Arnaud Beltrame in this district, the population will take that as a provocation”
I have taken the liberty ot retranslating it. This is my retranslation. Feel free to use it without attribution:
Stephane Ravier, the Rassemblement National [National Gathering] mayor of Marseille’s 7th district, said, “Leftist elected officials, both socialist and communist, opposed renaming a square in the 15th district after Arnaud Beltrame. First they advanced the bogus pretext that this square wasn’t prestigious enough, but they eventually revealed the true reason, namely that the local inhabitants would take that as a provocation”
I deleted the passage “we are on the field, we witnessed that the population has changed and if we give the name of Arnaud Beltrame in this district”, because it does not appear in the original Valeurs Actuelles article, although it is evidently translated from the French and you appear to have conflated it with text from some other source. Moreover your addition in no way contradicts the Valeurs Actuelles article, but merely supplements small details that seem perfectly authentic.
“On the field” is obviously a flawed translation of “sur le champ”, which usually means “at once”, but in this context evidently mean “in the filed” or “on the spot” or “onsite”.
I am a professional translator of several European languages, although I practice my profession under my real name, which I prefer not to divulge at this point.
Feel free to consult me on these matters.
I can do small items like this one at no charge.
Sincerely, Zenobia van Dongen
carpediadem says
Great work. Zenobia. 🙂
Baucent says
Well done.
Phil Copson says
Umm – I think you mean “If these officials AREN’T decisively voted out at the first possible opportunity, France is finished.” or “UNLESS these officials are decisively…..etc.” ?
Cheryl S. says
They didn’t want to offend muslims??? What kind of irrationality & illogical reasoning is that?
Muslims have nooooo problem offending you!
Clive Stephen Delmonte says
Excellent point !
Carol the 1st says
Dualistic Islam covers both sides of any and all coins and of course we wouldn’t want to offend the Dr. Jekyll side, right?
Savvy Kafir says
It’s time to begin offending Muslims as much as possible, whenever possible. We need to let them know they are not welcome in the civilized world.
That’s one of the first steps we need to take, to get them to self-deport — along with refusing to hire them or patronize their businesses.
Salome says
Indeed, and any local inhabitant who is offended by the designation Place Arnaud Beltrame is either (if a citizen) a traitor or (if not) an enemy alien. It should be perfectly uncontroversial that a police officer who gave up his life to save a hostage in a criminal situation should be commemorated. To deny that is to side with the perpetrator.
Joe says
It is as if the French don’t want to fight until they know they can’t win. You are right, the issue needs to brought to a head sooner rather than later.
PRCS says
Surely, Macron will take care of this. No?
Salome says
You mean Micron, don’t you? 😉
PRCS says
Funny!
No Muzzies Here says
France had her chance in 2017, with Marine Le Pen, and failed. It elected a “moderate” who seems to be good at nothing that he does. France, when I knew her well, knew who she was, and was proud to be France. The national symbol, Marianne, meant something.
France is now a shadow of her former self. She is no longer proud. She is bent over, and failing, no longer holding her head high. She allowed her substance to be consumed by the EU, which promptly took over her soul.
Allez ! les français ! souvenez-vous de la gloire qu’était la France ! Il est encore temps de restaurer la fierté d’être français. Déclarez au monde qui vous êtes. Secouez la poussière de vos pieds ! Mettez à la porte les éléments qui sont venus vous déchirer ! Il est encore temps, mais le temps s’écoule !
StellaSaidSo says
‘France had her chance in 2017…’
You are assuming that the 2017 election was a fair contest. It was not.
Peggy says
Then none of the subsequent elections will be fair either.
If that’s the case people of France cannot wait to vote these traitors out. They never will.
What do they have to do then?
The only thing left to do is revolt.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@No Muzzie Here,
Bonsoir,
Ce n’est pas que la France qui est concernée, mais tout l’Occident. Le conflit islam/chrétienté est le sommet de l’iceberg, le problème auquel nous sommes confrontés, est à mon sens surtout culturel voire ethnique.
Les “arabes” se considèrent plutôt comme des blancs et craignent beaucoup les noirs subsahariens, que ces derniers soient musulmans ou chrétiens. L’Afrique subsaharienne est majoritairement chrétienne, mais elle effraie essentiellement pas sa démographie, le monde méditerranéen et au delà.
Je connais des “musulmans” circonspects quant à leur religion, et je pense que les leaders religieux islamiques sont dépassés par le phénomène de l’athéisme, et de l’apostasie. Il est possible que l’aventure islamique arrive à terme.,
Comme pour la seconde guerre mondiale nous sommes nombreux à penser que notre pays passe par une période sombre. Il en a été de même lors de la guerre de cent ans où nous avons failli disparaître en tant que nation.
Certains pensent, surtout si ils sont catholiques, à un retour d’une Jeanne d’arc (qui était peut-être le fruit d’une maneuvre politique), ou à la venue d’un roi descendant des mérovingiens ou des capétiens …
Peu importe, un leader ne viendra que lorsque nous serons prêts, et comme vous l’avez dit il est encore temps, mais je pense qu’il ne sera jamais trop tard sauf pour le défaitiste pour qui tout est déjà joué d’avance.
Cordialement
gravenimage says
France: Hero who died to save hostage from jihadi won’t have place named after him, as it may offend Muslims
…………………………
Well, this is just sickening. Arnaud Beltrame is a true hero.
And if most Muslims were really “moderates”, why would they be offended by someone who saved a hostage from a Jihadist?
That dhimmi French authorities are bowing to these Muslim thugs is repulsive.
Savvy Kafir says
Good point, graven! If France’s Muslims were actually moderate, reasonable people, they would not take offense regarding a hero who gave his life defending innocent people from a jihadi.
And if they aren’t moderate, reasonable people, to hell with them and their sensitivities!
gravenimage says
So true, Savvy Kafir.
Andy says
John 15:13 New International Version (NIV)
13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
R.I.P Arnaud Beltrame
A hero who deserves honor and respect.
gravenimage says
+1
StellaSaidSo says
France’s Muslims aren’t all of the same mind, Savvy Kafir. But in Marseilles one is well-advised to keep one’s head below the parapet.
gravenimage says
I wish some Muslims *would* come out for honoring this French hero against Jihad–but I don’t expect to see any of them do so.
Karen says
A patriotic French Muslim would want to honor Arnaud Beltrame’s memory. A patriotic French Muslim would scoff at the city council and it’s transparent “provocation” excuse.
tim gallagher says
I agree, gravenimage and Savvy Kafir. And I agree completely with your point (up above), Savvy Kafir, about offending Muslims. We should offend them and never cave in and pander to them. When I read this report, I thought exactly what you are saying, gravenimage. All this garbage about how most Muslims are moderate and how moderate Muslims are on our side (ie on the side of the decent, civilised members of our societies and are against Muslim terrorists,etc) is a load of rubbish. I believe nearly all Muslims are always against us; they are always the enemy of our values. It truly is them or us. There will never be any compatibility. Look at the 1400 years of violent misery Islam has brought the world. Muslims and non-Muslims have completely different value systems. Muslims are nothing but a negative ( with very few exceptions) for our societies and should not be let into our countries at all. You’re right about what true French people would feel, Karen.
StellaSaidSo says
I don’t see any poster here or anywhere else on JW claiming that ‘most Muslims are moderate’. However, whether we describe them as moderate, nominal, cultural, or whatever, there are Muslims who share and defend Western values. And in France in 2017, they voted for Marine Le Pen.
pragmatist says
What on earth makes you think that?
StellaSaidSo says
@ pragmatist
I was there at the time. Not everyone who identifies as Muslim is a ravening jihadist.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Lame Bear
According to whom?
gravenimage says
Islam itself teaches the persecution and murder of Infidels, and their conquest and forced submission to Islam.
Should I cite the Qur’an, Hadith, Sira, and model of the “Prophet” here?
StellaSaidSo says
@ gravenimage
I think everyone here knows what Islam teaches, and many of us can cite chapter and verse. What your post has to do with the question of who said Muslims aren’t Muslim is unclear.
Carol the 1st says
It’s nice to hear some muslims voted for someone like Marine le Pen but if they’re clinging to the bag called Islam I don’t think they’ll ever got through the Eye of the Needle. In the meantime they’ll serve to blur and confuse the issue for others. Why should Westerners have to go through all the misery, violence and absurdity? Islam is not a benign garden party and there’s nothing worth salvaging. Muslims need to DECIDE to forge an identity without it.
gravenimage says
Anyone who adheres to the creed of Islam–Muslims, that would be–does indeed accept most of the tenets of Islam. If they do not, to what extent are they actually Muslim?
Note that *very few* Muslims actually take a stance against Islam. But then, one would not expect them to.
gravenimage says
I have been unable to find figures for the most recent election in France, but in 2012 Le Pen won just an estimated 4% of the Muslim vote.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/meet-french-muslims-voting-national-front-1348163567
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
…the population will take that as a provocation”….
First off, if I were a muslim I’d be offended by such a remark. I thought those “moderate” muslims were a peaceful asset to our nation(s), at least that’s what we’re told. How can it be that a man who dies fighting crime can be an offense to any good citizen of France? Are muslims offended by crime fighters? are they ticked off by the death of a jihadist? What was it in this situation that has the potential to offend France’s muslim population?
I think I know the answer.
Muslims are offended because that jihadist was fighting for islam, and “moderate” muslims are the heart and soul of that “religion.” It doesn’t matter that the jihadist went further in his misguided love for allah than most of them, they identify completely with his intended goal. Most muslims, I truly believe, consider these terrorists to be soldiers for allah, the mujahideen, fighting to advance the cause of allah. Publicly they may denounce such actions as un-islamic, but privately and in their hearts they are cheering our destruction. I can say this and mean it because the goals of both groups are in perfect alignment, they all want the same things, sharia and supremacy for their phony religion. I’m not surmising this, they tell us this themselves. They stand on the streets and hold signs that declare, “Islam will dominate the West,” or “blasphemers should be beheaded.” They rape our kids and women like we were a vanquished people. They turn whole neighborhoods and towns into unwelcoming enclaves which are nothing more than an extension of their bigoted mosques. They import the same bad cultural traits as if our own sensibilities and laws don’t even matter, like sharia, FGM, honor killings, misogyny, and halal. Their muslim leaders and advocates, like CAIR, are constantly working to advance islam at the expense of our freedoms and security.
So tell me, what’s so different about these moderates who so deftly operate within the confines of the law for islam from their terroristic brethren doing the same? I suggest not too much at all. Their methods may differ, but their end goals are in perfect agreement as they all do their part to ensure our destruction for allah. In short, they are offended because the death of a jihadist hurts their sympathies and supremacist longings, to them he is a hero not a criminal. The left knows this, and in their cowardice they refuse to risk offending people they know will never truly be a part of us, but who live among us and threaten our existence in a hundred different ways.
gravenimage says
+1
Karen says
” … if we give the name of Arnaud Beltrame in this district, the population will take that as a provocation”.
What of it?
Alternatively, the population may see that the French are proud of their heroes, and admire that. Many people respond positively to strength of character, and confidence. Seeing lawful cultural confidence that is willing to assert itself, even in the very mild form of a ceremonial honor, the immigrant population may start to think that there is something worthy in French society, ideals and history. Something worth investigating, even embracing and emulating. But if even the French elites are not willing to love Marianne, why should anyone else?.
Berengaria says
Since the Infamous “Mayors” usually make decisions in all Towns & Cities, which will ultimately benefit the Mayor.
You can bet your last dollar or Euro that there is a Corrupt French Mayor, getting pay-offs from the Muslim Mob & NO White, French Citizen will ever have His/Her name on any Public Marker!
John W. says
I 100 percent agree that “moderate” “peaceful” muslims would not at all be offended by this because we are told over and over again that real Islam is opposed to any and all forms of violence and that it has nothing to do with terrorism. So how could peaceful, France loving muslims possibly be offended or provoked? And even if they were, what are these peaceful, France loving muslims going to do? Pray for their accusers? Well, we all know the answer.
Gene says
Well, the fact that Beltrame is called a hero proves he is really French. France surrenders once again.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Insulting and stupid, think about it instead of making it all up.
StellaSaidSo says
Indeed. ‘Thinking’ would be a whole new experience for some ‘contributors’ here.
gravenimage says
This from Gene is disgusting.
Wazza says
When will the Western “civilized” people wake up, to the fact that us breathing is an offense to Muslims, why the heck they ever came to our Nations used to be a common thread amongst people, media and libs say “for immigration” or ” fleeing” terrorism, whereas I say it is purely an invasion pure and simple
I look at old scenes of Bondi rescue here in Oz and muzzies everywhere, groping women, get booted from the beach, problem solved, afraid not, as they will simply go elsewhere to grope our women, an aussie would be arrested.
Sadly it will take something major to happen to wake the masses up, our media never show the thousands of Christians butchered in Nigeria etc, let alone the Churches, but imagine the outcry if Israel destroyed that monstrosity of a mosque, or some Christian destroyed a mosque in the US or elsewhere, sheesh they call the feds if someone places a bacon rash on their door, same here, a horrendous act when someone placed a pigs head on a future terrorist training center or mosque
God help us One and all against these lowlifes as our cops etc won’t.
StellaSaidSo says
I agree, Wazza, ‘it will take something major to happen to wake the masses up’, and you correctly identify MSM as the anaesthetic that maintains their slumber. Our media are a disgrace, as is the case in nearly every other Western country. A bit of harmless street theatre can result in a prison sentence here in Oz, but a Muslim rapist can plead ‘cultural differences’ and get a slap on the wrist. I remember the so-called Cronulla Riots. Our boys got the blame, but it was the Lebanese youths assaulting women on the beach who were the cause of the confrontation.
Wazza says
Hi Stella, they actually showed the Cronulla riots on Bondi rescue, and you know they only showed Aussie kids, not weetbix kids of course lol, but Aussies rioting throwing rocks etc, not 1 mention or sign of lebanese gangs, I remember a Woman pleaded with them please don’t damage my car, so they did and bashed her too
Nice to know other Aussies are awake, but ohhhh too few, even our Church mocks the news about the Apex gangs and African youths causing trouble, called it fake news
Makes me sick
Cheers and stay safe
StellaSaidSo says
Yes, other Aussies are awake, and more join us every day. But, like the people at your church, many prefer to stay in the dark. And the media, and govts, are more than happy to keep them there. Cheers to you from Melbourne, where ‘cultural enrichment’ plagues our streets.
Gjallarhornet says
Things like this make me feel we are doomed, that everything is lost. I know it is not the right feeling to have – we must not sit down and just give up. we must maintain hope and the faith in that we can do something. But it’s very, very discouraging when a hero who gave his life for others and us can not be honored because the powers that be like what is attacking and killing us- islam – too much
Lavéritétriomphera says
Propaganda, disinformation, disheartening news, are instruments of psychological warfare. We must avoid falling into this trap.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
J.W.K. says
Why is this at allsurürising, seeing as how they have Macron le magnifique in charge, espece de porc that he is.
Nate says
France will get what they deserve. Cowards usually do.
Lavéritétriomphera says
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Peggy says
Not honouring him is the least insult.
Maybe they’ll proclaim him a right wing extremist.