Also: “A few years ago, Ayatollah Javadi Amoli, a favorite Marja of the regime, suggested that the open concept kitchens are ‘against Islamic’ and said kitchens that ‘cannot hide the host from the eyes of the guest are against Islam.'”
It’s easy to laugh at the likes of Gorgani and Amoli and move on, but it should be remembered that this kind of thinking reinforces fanaticism. When someone is told that nearly everything in this world, including open-concept kitchens and apartment buildings, is against Islam, he or she will begin to think that sin is ubiquitous and unavoidable, and the tortures of hellfire a certainty. For people with such a mindset, there is the Islamic idea that an act of jihad will outweigh any sins they have committed. “We shall set up scales of justice for the Day of Judgment,” says the Qur’an (21:47): if one’s good deeds outweigh one’s evil deeds, one will go to Paradise, but if one’s evil deeds outweigh one’s good deeds, one will go to hell. And what good deed weighs the most? A hadith has a Muslim asking Muhammad: “Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward).” Muhammad replied, “I do not find such a deed.” (Bukhari 4.52.44)
So if a believer goes on jihad, his good deeds will outweigh all his evil deeds. Thus if a jihadist knows he is about to wage a great jihad, he knows its value will outweigh anything evil he has done, such as have the wrong kind of kitchen or apartment. The ridiculous joyless of Gorgani and Amoli leads straight to jihad violence.
“Ayatollah Gorgani: Apartment Buildings Are a British Plot to Spread Moral Corruption,” IranIntl, October 27, 2018:
Ayatollah Mohammad Alavi Gorgani, a Marja’ in Qom city said: “Building apartments was started by the British in order to get women out of the house and spread moral corruption.”
He called apartment building an “enemy ploy” and said: “They have achieved their goal and spread the construction of apartment buildings in Iran.”
Gorgani also said: “They have made it so when someone enters Mashhad or Qom cities, they cannot see the holy shrines.”
Previously some Ayatollahs had also criticized apartment building and open concept kitchens in architecture.
A few years ago, Ayatollah Javadi Amoli, a favorite Marja of the regime, suggested that the open concept kitchens are “against Islamic” and said kitchens that “cannot hide the host from the eyes of the guest are against Islam.”
Ragdoll says
If I were being hosted by a muslim, I would definitely want to see what exactly they were doing to my food in the kitchen :S
Food hygiene is also against islam!
Elisha says
It’s pretty much downhill after drinking camel pee and dunkin’ flies. muslims are hyper Pharisees, so to speak. Everything they do is about external appearances in their honor/shame culture. They constantly “strain out a gnat but swallow a camel” (Matthew 23:24) thinking that their one million and one ordinances make them holy while their hearts are black (Matthew 23:26).
“Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.” – Matthew 12:34
mortimer says
Muslims use their left hand for cleaning their rectum … do they touch anything after that? Did they use an ODD NUMBER OF STONES to do that or CLEAN DIRT to do it as Sharia law demands?
Did they touch food after that RITUAL CLEANSING?
Is it OK to touch the food with the left hand if it goes to KAFIRS?
BC says
Would it not be great if they could invent a cloak of invisibility for women. Then they would not be seen at all.
BTW I always thought open plan design was begun in USA
John Hawk says
Islam: The Psychopath’s Guide to Totalitarianism.
Or how I learned to hate even the simplest pleasures in life and deem it virtuous.
gravenimage says
+1
Elisha says
Sadly, muslims have no idea how similar they are to the Jews (in particular, the Pharisees) they despise. They both fight for a worldly kingdom (John 18:36) and reject Jesus Christ on the basis that He didn’t come to destroy their enemies but rebuke them for their hypocrisy:
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!” – Matthew 23:23-24
gravenimage says
Oh, good grief–more antisemitism from Elisha.
j_not_a says
Simple solution to the problem – forfeit your lavish welfare, housing and child benefits and fluck off on the next plane out of Britain to whatever trashcanistan or hellwholeistan you crawled out of.
You backward filth can find a nice cave with lots of out of hidden nooks to make a kitchen out of one so your ugly, fat breeding cow can stay there sight unseen. Everybody’s happy.
Bev says
Totally agree.
Marina says
I agree too.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
… right out of the time machine from the seventh century.
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam all,
I think it is right that before the1960s/70 the western woman was not as corrupt as she is today, but there has been a steady trend towards the corruption of disrespect, drugs , sex outside of marriage, open lesbian behaviour etc..etc.
of course it all accelerated when the woman was thanked for her efforts during the war after the end of 1st world war when she was given the vote in 1918. Of course this had the hidden consequence of giving her ideas to stand up for positions/causes, access to clubs she never had access to before giving birth to feminism (which in today’s western world means hate for men and dominance over them …making the Western man weak and vulnerable).
In the 60s they burnt their bras and steadily progressed to Margaret Thatcher being 1st Female Prime Minister (but I have to say she was a good leader).
When I was going to 6th form school some girl students did talk about moving out to get their own flat (I did not know what that even meant at the time) and one girl at the end of 6th form did move into her own flat after she got a job. I was sort of fascinated and asked her how she lived and why she would have the audacity to move out of her parents home before marriage, as it seemed so disrespectful and full of danger.
She talked about meeting a 24 year old man and having the time and space to meet him when and how she wanted and that nobody was going to stop her.
I was horrified that the disrespect and rebellion that this girl showed but liked the gifts that the 24 year old brought her, which she showed me. Of course it was not too long after I found that she was expecting and I came to know about the all too well know phrase of these days – single mum… which ofcourse is what a lot of them do now TO get into a flat courtesy of the local councils… that along with the Friday night culture of the white girls smoking and getting sloshed in pubs and clubs when the church (or some place of religious worship) would be a far better venue to detox them of their “open” independent behaviours.
So I grew into this mix of clash of cultures, if I talked about her in a general way at home … there was nothing short of incredulity on the faces of the females in the house.
I can to some extent understand where this respected imam is coming from, I have seen this behaviour
whilst growing up so I know he is not completely wrong… the Western mum & Dad though are way too desensitised to know what their daughters are even getting up to. It is not something that the 20s western woman would approve of …The woman’s vote has certainly a lot to answer for…
More Later …
Rezali
gravenimage says
The foul Rezali Mehil wrote:
Salaam all,
I think it is right that before the1960s/70 the western woman was not as corrupt as she is today, but there has been a steady trend towards the corruption of disrespect, drugs , sex outside of marriage, open lesbian behaviour etc..etc.
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“Disrespect”–of course, the vicious Rezali Mehil believes that Muslims have the right to beat their wives.
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of course it all accelerated when the woman was thanked for her efforts during the war after the end of 1st world war when she was given the vote in 1918. Of course this had the hidden consequence of giving her ideas to stand up for positions/causes, access to clubs she never had access to before giving birth to feminism (which in today’s western world means hate for men and dominance over them …making the Western man weak and vulnerable).
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Only Muslims think that treating people equals is a weakness. But why not? She thinks it’s “manly” for Muslims to beat women and children and any other vulnerable people.
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In the 60s they burnt their bras and steadily progressed to Margaret Thatcher being 1st Female Prime Minister (but I have to say she was a good leader).
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I guess Rezali Mehil doesn’t know that Margaret Thatcher was a staunch supporter of Israel and opposed terrorism–including Jihad terrorism?
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When I was going to 6th form school some girl students did talk about moving out to get their own flat (I did not know what that even meant at the time) and one girl at the end of 6th form did move into her own flat after she got a job. I was sort of fascinated and asked her how she lived and why she would have the audacity to move out of her parents home before marriage, as it seemed so disrespectful and full of danger.
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Of course Muslims think that women having a life of their own is “disrespectful”–after all, how does this jibe with forced marriage? Rezali Mehil has said that Muslims should marry off their daughters as children. One of the few decent things about here is that she was a hypocrite in this regard, and spared her own daughters this horror.
And the claim that every woman who moves out on her own winds up with unwanted pregnancies is ludicrous.
And given Rezali Mehil’s repulsive repeated support for “Honor Killings” here over the years, we know what she thinks should have happened to this young woman…
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I can to some extent understand where this respected imam is coming from, I have seen this behaviour
whilst growing up so I know he is not completely wrong… the Western mum & Dad though are way too desensitised to know what their daughters are even getting up to. It is not something that the 20s western woman would approve of …The woman’s vote has certainly a lot to answer for…
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Of course Rezali Mehil hates the idea of the vote–what could be more un-Isamic? It is not just votes for women–Muslims regularly murder men who try to vote, as well.
As for Ayatollah Javadi Amoli himself, no surprise that Rezali Mehil agrees with this thug.
He also hates art and music, and he hates America and Israel. He is a big supporter of Shia terrorist organization HIzb’allah, which seeks the destruction of Israel.
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam all,
In Gravenimage you find today’s feminist … no softness in her tone or anything else … mean and nasty … answer for others whilst only her viewpoint matters. So here we go ..
1) In all her responses I am “foul and vicious” despite having written about my experiences whilst growing up … I mean it’s just not right in this context … I am neither of these, I am very much loved.
2) She put her Mother in Law in a hospice instead of looking after her in her home…. as that would have been an inconvenience to her life style. Being a modern feminist …she WILL have battered Dennis into agreeing or else…. the fact that he became virtually bankrupt during that exercise is neither here nor there for her … her convenient lifestyle comes 1st …something a muslilma would never do.
3) She talks of false immigration on JW …that your culture is being replaced by those from abroad who do not readily mix to a corrupt one … but I have to ask …what has Graven done to alleviate the situation? She complains about the lack of white children … well Graven where the f**k are yours; why are childless?
You are a disgrace to your country by not helping to bring whites into the world … no doubt you have a substitute cat/dog to make up for them… well Graven that won’t do!!!
When Dennis asked you for children.. the feminist in you grew to epic proportions… and you battered him both verbally and physically, because you could not be bothered with the inconvenience …that you could not stand your feminist image being tarnished by sagging wet tits and nappy changing and crying babies. When he asked to adopt …that was unacceptable to you too… if he left you … you would have left him penniless in any divorce proceedings…
Any dissent is dismissed whilst the ills of the country is blamed on others immigrating into the country …JUST like SHE emigrated from Canada … but ofcourse that is different …because it is GRAVEN…folks do you see a pattern here?
1.5Million men (non whites) fought in the war for Britain, more than 34000 died to help her have the freedom to spit on others.
Ladies and gentlemen… Graven IS the modern super charged feminist …one who hates … you can see it in her replies to me … and giving her the vote has only emboldened her.
More Later ….
Rezali
CogitoErgoSum says
I’m failing to see the connection between voting and hating people. Do you not vote? And I still don’t know why you didn’t immigrate to someplace like China, Cuba or Venezuela.
gravenimage says
Rezali Mehil wrote:
Salaam all,
In Gravenimage you find today’s feminist … no softness in her tone or anything else … mean and nasty … answer for others whilst only her viewpoint matters. So here we go ..
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No–opposing the horrors of child marriage and “Honor Killing” is not mean and nasty–very telling that Rezali Mehil claims that it is.
The idea that there is “softness” in raping children and murdering your loved ones is grotesque.
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1) In all her responses I am “foul and vicious” despite having written about my experiences whilst growing up … I mean it’s just not right in this context … I am neither of these, I am very much loved.
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Well, it’s nice that Rezali Mehil is loved. That she is likely loved by Muslims for supporting child rape and “Honor Killing” is quite disturbing, though.
And the idea that one cannot say anything critical if someone mentions their teen years is just bizarre.
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2) She put her Mother in Law in a hospice instead of looking after her in her home…. as that would have been an inconvenience to her life style. Being a modern feminist …she WILL have battered Dennis into agreeing or else…. the fact that he became virtually bankrupt during that exercise is neither here nor there for her … her convenient lifestyle comes 1st …something a muslilma would never do.
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This is just bizarre. Since my husband does not beat me, Rezali Mehil has for some time claimed that this must mean that I beat him. Of course, this is grotesque calumny. The idea that a husband and wife might actually love each other is quite alien to a pious Muslimah. *Ugh*.
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3) She talks of false immigration on JW …that your culture is being replaced by those from abroad who do not readily mix to a corrupt one … but I have to ask …what has Graven done to alleviate the situation? She complains about the lack of white children … well Graven where the f**k are yours; why are childless?
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The claim that I have been complaining about a lack of white children is quite false–I have never said any such thing. The civilized West does not need to be replaced with the horrors of Islam.
And she regularly castigates me for my inability to have children–including saying that my husband needs to divorce me and convert to Islam so that he can marry several females–including little girls.
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You are a disgrace to your country by not helping to bring whites into the world … no doubt you have a substitute cat/dog to make up for them… well Graven that won’t do!!!
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Again, Islam is not a race.
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When Dennis asked you for children.. the feminist in you grew to epic proportions… and you battered him both verbally and physically, because you could not be bothered with the inconvenience …that you could not stand your feminist image being tarnished by sagging wet tits and nappy changing and crying babies. When he asked to adopt …that was unacceptable to you too… if he left you … you would have left him penniless in any divorce proceedings…
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Her repeated claims that I am beating my beloved husband–who, incidentally, is over a foot taller than I am and far stronger is just grotesque. Again, she is incapable of conceiving of an equal, loving relationship. After all, this does not exist in Islam.
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Any dissent is dismissed whilst the ills of the country is blamed on others immigrating into the country …JUST like SHE emigrated from Canada … but ofcourse that is different …because it is GRAVEN…folks do you see a pattern here?
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What is Rezali Mehil babbling about now? I have never lived in Canada.
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1.5Million men (non whites) fought in the war for Britain, more than 34000 died to help her have the freedom to spit on others.
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My mother and aunt served in the British Army. I support anyone who has fought for freedom–race has nothing to do with it.
And Rezali Mehil going on about freedom is grotesque–she has many times said that she wants freedom in Britain replaced with brutal Shari’ah law.
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Ladies and gentlemen… Graven IS the modern super charged feminist …one who hates … you can see it in her replies to me … and giving her the vote has only emboldened her.
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How dare I defend equality? Certainly, there is no room for equal rights in Islam, which Rezali Mehil wants to see conquer the free West.
Mo says
Graven, please ignore Rezali’s personal, and vicious, attacks, which read like nonsense. Remember Proverbs 26. 5. I thought at first that she was a Muslim man, judging by her rude and aggressive tone and complete lack of any logical thought. Was surprised to hear that she was actually female! Lol.
To Rezali, we do not want the evils of sharia law which is against God and against true justice. When Jesus returns there will be no sharia and all people will be treated fairly and live in peace with each other. There will be no beating or child marriage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Mo.
As unpleasant as it is, I find it rather instructive to parse the savagery of what Muslim trolls post here. It certainly exposes the ugliness of Islam.
Bindon Blood says
There is no doubt that morality has fallen in the last 50 years,not just in women but in men too. There are several reasons for this; increased affluence which enables girls to be independent of their parents and a push to get many more women into university which results in them breaking the family ties and coming into contact with attitudes and ideas they might not have encountered at home.
Since the 1960s the left has had an increasing influence on education and domestic policies in general. One of their targets has been the family and they have attacked the family through women who are of course the mainstay of family life,bringing up the children while the man works. Not all women suit this life of course and some should definitely not marry or have children. A minority of women do choose to go into the professions,particularly medicine and they are very good at it, but not all women can or want to do this. This applies to men too but we are talking about women.
The left always wants to break up traditional family life; one reason is to get their hands on children to indoctrinate them. Weak families means a more powerful ,larger state. One of the reasons that the left wanted to massively increase university places ,often at second rate polytechnics with useless degrees,was to get young people under the influence of the left wing education establishment in order to indoctrinate them; this has worked.Feminism is from the left and pursues the same agenda whilst damaging relations between the sexes to facilitate the fall of society.
Islam has a view of women never shared by Christianity. Women are equal partners to men in marriage with different roles ; over the centuries this worked well and was necessary in a world that could be brutal to those who made wrong choices . The working class ,naturally were more vulnerable. Life choices for both sexes were extremely limited ,especially Iin the lower classes.
In Islam women are virtually “haram” unless subjected to inhuman and degrading rules that suck the spirit and joy of life from them. The woman is not the man’s partner but his slave ,bought and paid for, to be used for his enjoyment whenever he so chooses. She can suffer the indignity of sharing her husband with other women and face the real prospect of him divorcing her if he tires of her. She on the other hand must jump through hoops to leave a cruel husband.Her inferiority is constantly made apparent to her in every way. One wonders if love in many Islamic marriages is ever a factor. She does not even have the right to her own children after the age of suckling and can have them torn from her by the man and the Islamic state.women are held to a standard that the Islamic man would never even attempt and after all this ,Muhammad says that most of them are going to hell! To try to display Islam as a perfect model for marriage and family life is an affront to ones credulity.
There is much wrong in western societies , mainly due to the influence of left wing ideologies; Islam can never supply the remedy. It is a hateful,dysfunctional and oppressive ideology that subjugates the weak and especially females. Women and girls are just sexual playthings and child bearers for the arrogant Muslim male.
The answer to the West’s malaise is Christianity ,not Marxism and definitely not Islam. Both are the creations of evil.
Mo says
Agree with all of this. Well said.
abad says
““A few years ago, Ayatollah Javadi Amoli, a favorite Marja of the regime, suggested that the open concept kitchens are ‘against Islamic’ and said kitchens that ‘cannot hide the host from the eyes of the guest are against Islam.’””
And to think some people complain about those right-wing, white Christian men who declare women should stay in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant.
gravenimage says
Iranian Ayatollah: The British built apartments “to get women out of the house and spread moral corruption”
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How does this even make sense? I lived in a series of apartments for years before my husband and I bought our house. Living in an apartment didn’t “get me out of the house”–it *was* my house.
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“A few years ago, Ayatollah Javadi Amoli, a favorite Marja of the regime, suggested that the open concept kitchens are ‘against Islamic’ and said kitchens that ‘cannot hide the host from the eyes of the guest are against Islam.’”
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Of course, open kitchens’ main feature is that those in the dining or living area and the cook can socialize–but in Islam women are usually shut up in the kitchen after they have served their husband’s male guests.
Betty Mahmoody of “Not Without My Daughter” wrote about this in Iran.
He is right that open kitchens are un-Islamic–but what does this say about Islam? *Ugh*.
FYI says
Your moon god ,allah, himself has a lot to answer for….in regards to women.
allah hates women!
And you KNOW that of course.
As you wear your hijabs and indulge in your islamic display of false piety{obsessive washing that just cannot clean the soul can it?The public token and quite worthless fasting..}consider..
The legal testimony of a muslima =HALF that of muslim man {koran 2:282}
The son’s inheritance=TWICE the daughter’s {koran 4:11}
Ouch!
allah really doesn’t think much of women does he?
A muslima is only worth HALF a man.The muslima is the property of the man:yuk!
And of course you have to wear the hijab,being the holiest people in the world… to protect yourself from the devout muslim men:let’s not forget that rape,polygamy and pederasty{see the “prophet” muhammed}child brides ,constantly bearing false witness,Stealing{Jizya tax!}koranically-sanctioned murder,wife beating…are all fruits of the islamic world.
Such hypocrisy from the “holy” muslims!
The followers of a murderous cult based on a false god,a false prophet and a false scripture.So,was your allah out the day God gave those commandments…you know,the ones which your koran DISAGREES with?
islam has a superiority complex.muslims of course are {koran 3:111}the holiest people in the world.
All that hijab wearing,anus-cleaning,5 times a day false piety for your false god allah:
allah:the god who hates women!
Give me an atheist or a pagan woman anyday…instead of the taqqiya-tongued,fraudulently pious,”holier than thou”,simple-minded,naive muslimas,who are just not evolved or intelligent enough to see the errors and falsehoods of the “religion of peace”.
gravenimage says
+1
Elisha says
Excellent expose into the islamic mindset! If only the right people in the FBI were in places of power, Robert. If only the U.S. had strong leadership instead of Obama al-islam when you were turfed from pointing out these things.
Adam says
Let me get this right, murder, rape, torture and lying good. Open concept kitchen bad.
Cutting off heads, hands, and feet ok. Music bad.
Throwing people off buildings and being mean to animals good. Reading more then one book bad.
I’m pretty sure I won’t be taking any advise from these folks.
gravenimage says
Yep.
mortimer says
Ayatollah Javadi Amoli is spreading PURE MISOGYNY. So why do Western feminists SUPPORT ISLAM?
They are dishonest.
Millions of Iranian women DO NOT WANT TO WEAR MEDIEVAL DRESSES AND VEILS.
Older Canadian says
Yes he is so correct, it would appear the brits no longer believe their birds should stay in a cage. He should report this directly to May, and perhaps she will take the necessary steps to correct it asap. If not, when the labour party gets elected they most likely will make it a top priority without any outside intervention. Problem will be solved.