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Netherlands: Muslim preacher says female genital mutilation is “recommended”

Oct 3, 2018 1:15 pm By Robert Spencer

'Vrouwenbesnijdenis is niet verplicht maar wel aanbevolen,' aldus een prediker in de As Soennah moskee. Het OM onderzoekt of er sprake is van een strafbaar feit. Volgens prediker Umair Bantvawala is er geen sprake van wetsovertreding. #DeNieuweMaan pic.twitter.com/LzOTg5w0r3

— De Nieuwe Maan (@DeNieuweMaanNTR) October 2, 2018

“‘Female circumcision is not mandatory but recommended,’ says a preacher in the As Sunnah mosque. The Public Prosecutor is investigating whether there is a criminal offense. According to preacher Umair Bantvawala, there is no violation of the law. #TheNewMoon”

FGM is mandated in Islamic law: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75

“Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: ‘Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.’” — Abu Dawud 41:5251

That hadith is classified as weak, but this one is classified as sahih (reliable): “Aishah narrated: ‘When the circumcised meets the circumcised, then indeed Ghusl is required. Myself and Allah’s Messenger did that, so we performed Ghusl.’” — Jami` at-Tirmidhi 108

If Muhammad had the genitals of his favorite wife, Aisha, mutilated, that is a strong endorsement of the practice from the man who is an “excellent example” (Qur’an 33:21) for Muslims.

Among the Sunni schools of jurisprudence (madhahib), the Hanafi, Maliki, and Hanbali schools teach that female circumcision is makrama for women (an honor, but not obligatory; the Shafi’i school holds that it is indeed obligatory (wajib).

(Thanks to H.)

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  1. Garfield says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    Why does Islam despise women so much?

    Also FGm is Islamic. I hate when they try to lie and squirm and say it’s merely reccomended. As if that’s any better!I

    What if there was a white supremacist cult that “recommended” CUTTING out female CLITORIS?

    Well, CNN WOULD be all over that. the headline would say White supremacists maim young girls and destroy their sexuality for sick cult!

    But since it’s Muslims we get….crickets….or We are told the religion of peace has a “custom” that you don’t UNDERSTAND so you better not QUESTION it, you dhimmi p.o.s

    The world needs to ask: what kind of “religion” wants to chop out one of the most pleasurable parts of a woman’s body?

    What kind of sick cult wants to dominate women so badly it needs to deprive them of orgasms? REALLY??????

    • Tricia Stuercke says

      Oct 3, 2018 at 3:16 pm

      Garfield…Nicely Nailed.

    • James Lincoln says

      Oct 3, 2018 at 7:54 pm

      Garfield, agree!

      As a test case, a non-Muslim should make exactly the same, word for word, recommendation in a public forum.

      Let’s see what actually happens.

      • b.a. freeman says

        Oct 3, 2018 at 9:26 pm

        +1

        it won’t be me, though; i don’t have millions of dollars with which to live while my career and life are ruined, nor do i have the funds to sue the bast**ds for libel when they ruin me. lawfare is alive and well in the u.s., and one is only safe from it if one is leftist.

  2. mortimer says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    Misogyny is legal WHEN MUSLIMS DO IT.

    • Carolyne says

      Oct 4, 2018 at 1:02 pm

      I just saw on TV that ridiculous Linda Sarsour is speaking at that nonsensical anti-Kavanaugh riot outside the Capitol Building in Washington. She, who belongs to a cult which not only discriminates against women but tortures and disfigures them, is speaking for a bunch who wish to murder their own offspring. There are a bunch of so-called celebrities there, people who speak lines written by someone else and spend much of their time preening, who want to be considered as some kind of intellects. If this group of idiots want to do something for women, they should fight against that misogynistic cult, Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 4, 2018 at 11:29 pm

        Disgusting, Carolyne–but no surprise.

  3. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    The callous statement by that Muslim cleric “female circumcision’ which s is in reality FGM. is “recommended” in Islam strongly reflects the vicious misogyny of Islam . It’s very easy for that man ,being a male, to have such a heartless Islamic way of thinking. For will never ,ever , be forced to go through such a pointless, senseless torturous ordeal of that brutal Islamic tradition

    In addition , on this awful subject of the cruel, brutal and vicious Islamic tradition of female butchery which some Muslims so inappropriately call “female circumcision.” This heinous Islamic custom of misogyny has been exposed in the book by Brigitte Gabriel which is entitled THEY MUST BE STOPPED. For on page 178 it reveals to the reader that “One of the most devastating practices to young girls of the Islamic world is female genital mutilation. Young girls have their clitoris removed without anesthesia…”
    Indeed, they must be stopped !

  4. Tricia Stuercke says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm

    Since Mohammed (Hell doth surround him) was into FGM, & our Racist American minds neither respect nor appreciate the genius & beauty of Muslim “CULTURE”, perhaps it’s our duty to politely acquiesce & support all Islamic candidates for office in the coming election…
    ONLY IF WE WANT SHARIA TO START BREAKING THROUGH HERE! Where are all the PINK-P_SSY-HAT-WEARING RAGERS ON THIS?! EVERYONE, PAY ATTENTION to all levels of government this election. We’re hearing about the brainless candidates like Ocasio-Cortez & the only lily-white Irishman named Francis O’Rourke who goes by the Hispanic “BETO” without cries of “CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!”(?). What we (purposely) aren’t hearing about are the increasing number of Muslims running for office. Remember to be on alert. Remind friends & family of the DANGER of a religion that IS a political system…a political system completely at odds with ours.

    • Jennifer says

      Oct 4, 2018 at 12:21 pm

      I couldn’t agree more with you,so far there’s a count of 90 running for public office in the United, Obama is personally grooming one in Michigan for the next presidential election in 2020,american born Pakistani ,devote member of islam, Ellison, Gilliam here in Florida is another socialist, this fgm I’m sure is being preformed on countless girls here in the United States..vote DEM out! Obama filled the white house with 300 members of islam, Brennan converted to the wahabi form of islam while working in Saudi Arabia, it is the extreme form of islam..

  5. Marina says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    Islam is garbage and so are the islamic practices

  6. gravenimage says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    Netherlands: Muslim preacher says female genital mutilation is “recommended”
    ………………………

    Umair Bantvawala should be deported.

  7. Wellington says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    More barbarism, courtesy once again of Mo’s creed.

    Larger point: All, and I mean ALL, defending Islam are part of the problem and complicit with evil. Only the degree and amount of indefensible ignorance functioning as variables.

    • 6woods says

      Oct 3, 2018 at 11:18 pm

      Indefensible is indefensible. You can’t qualify it, or quantify it as to degree. That’s my opinion, but you’re the lawyer.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 4, 2018 at 1:11 am

      Agree with Wellington. Both Muslims who do nothing to stop the misogyny and NON-Muslim politicans and voters who do not insist on HUMAN RIGHTS are guilty of collusion.

      We must stop COLLUDING with the Muslim misogynists and defend women from abuse.

      Abuse against women is the FIRST PART OF JIHAD.

  8. overman says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    “If Muhammad had the genitals of his favorite wife, Aisha, mutilated, that is a strong endorsement of the practice from the man who is an “excellent example” (Qur’an 33:21) for Muslims.”

    And yet only last night while watching an episode of the ‘Good Doctor’ (series 2 ep 2) which devoted half the show to FGM, a doctor ask’s another doctor what religion the FGM patient is. A female doctor interrupts saying ‘no religion endorses FGM’. Later, it’s all explained as a ‘cultural thing’ and part of tradition. The usual whitewash.
    l was surprised at the synchronicity of Robert’s post, though lol..

  9. tim gallagher says

    Oct 3, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    Whenever I read these types of reports, I just can’t believe that knuckle dragging Neanderthals like this creature, espousing vile garbage that seems like something from mankind’s long gone, primitive past, are actually living in modern, evolved, civilised western countries. People with views as primitive and hideous as this creature should never be allowed into modern societies. And as for the silence western “feminists” always seem to display when confronted by the vile misogyny that Islam is full of, their hypocrisy is loathsome. They seem to give a free pass to Islam while spending their time attacking members of western societies for more minor examples of misogyny. Islam, with all its barbaric rubbish in so many areas of life, needs to be kept out of all modern, western societies.

  10. dan christensen says

    Oct 4, 2018 at 4:33 am

    In islam male and female cerebral mutilation in childhood is mandatory. That is why islamic countries in general are uninhabitable for normal civilized people.

    • RichardL says

      Oct 4, 2018 at 12:31 pm

      You speak like someone who lived in a shithole. After 4 years in Eshit I totally agree with you. They are vomit-inducingly ugly and stupid.

      • StellaSaidSo says

        Oct 5, 2018 at 1:36 am

        Yep. Ugly and stupid is right. And violent. 1400 years of inbreeding will do that.

  11. FYI says

    Oct 4, 2018 at 4:33 am

    And a full frontal lobotomy and Male Genital Mutilation carried out by infidels…. is to be recommended for the islamic barbarian preacher..

  12. Buck Tucker says

    Oct 4, 2018 at 10:01 am

    Why do all you people always make it like Islam has some thing against women? The women are the ones cutting their daughters clits off, the men have nothing to do with it, I have seen it first hand. And it goes for more than just the fgm, women are the main proponents of Islam, it is a feminine religion I assure you, the men are not present in the homes, they are the same as black dads, and the women take their kids to the jihadi in chief at the local mosque because he is the only male role model figure she wants them to have

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 6, 2018 at 12:17 am

      Buck Tucker wrote:

      Why do all you people always make it like Islam has some thing against women? The women are the ones cutting their daughters clits off, the men have nothing to do with it, I have seen it first hand. And it goes for more than just the fgm, women are the main proponents of Islam, it is a feminine religion I assure you, the men are not present in the homes, they are the same as black dads, and the women take their kids to the jihadi in chief at the local mosque because he is the only male role model figure she wants them to have
      ………………………..

      Well, of course! What could *possibly* be more “feminine” than refusing to marry an unmutilated girl, wife beating, child marriage, forced marriage, forced veiling, rape, sex slavery, “Honor Killing”, and stoning women to death? sarc/off

  13. Carolyne says

    Oct 4, 2018 at 1:12 pm

    Isn’t it possible that when early man left Africa, and different tribes headed in different directions, that those who went to the Middle East then evolved at a slower rate and are now at the Neanderthal stage? If you take a close look at them, particulalyr that picture of the men yelling which is often shown here, I think you will find them to be not as civilized as those in the West. We all have minute degrees of Neanderthal DNA, 5%. or less. Perhaps they have more.

    • Stanny1 says

      Oct 4, 2018 at 6:59 pm

      We know that the IQ is actually less, much from intermarriage.

      • StellaSaidSo says

        Oct 5, 2018 at 1:39 am

        Yep. Average Muslim IQ is 85. Lower if from Africa.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 6, 2018 at 12:19 am

      Arab Christians and Jews are not like this. Yes, inbreeding does not help–but over all this has more to do with the vile ideology of Islam than with genetics.

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