“This is the experience that we are facing in Nigeria: There exist the ‘fanatic’ Muslims — to use a bad word — just as there are also fanatic Christians.”
Is that so? As of today, there have been 33,503 violent jihad terror attacks worldwide since 9/11. How many violent attacks have there been in that span by fanatic Christians doing violence in the name of Christianity? It is commonplace to hear of violent Muslims trying to kill non-Muslims while screaming “Allah akbar.” How many violent attacks have there been by Christians screaming “Jesus is Lord”?
“Religious fundamentalism flourishes when people live in a situation of general social and economic hardship, where the government does not do what it needs to do.”
Cardinal Onaiyekan thinks that jihad will disappear if governments give money to Muslims. This has been abundantly disproven.
“Then I ask all my Muslim friends to say clearly that the discourses of Boko Haram are not the voice of true Islam!”
Boko Haram has been around for years. Does Cardinal Onaiyekan ever ask himself why his Muslim friends haven’t done this yet? Does he ever wonder why he still has to make this request in 2018? If anyone knows Cardinal Onaiyekan, please contact me at director@jihadwatch.org. I’d like to send him a free copy of my book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. In it, he would see that Boko Haram is by no means an aberration in the history of Islam. On the contrary, for 1,400 years there have been groups that behaved like it in every particular, from waging aggressive war against unbelievers to making sex slaves of non-Muslim women. From the Almoravids and Almohads in “tolerant, pluralistic” Muslim Spain to the Muslim conquerors of India, Boko Haram has abundant precedents in Islam. But few people know this history, and even fewer realize its implications. That’s why I wrote The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS — to try to prevent the same mistakes borne of ignorance being made yet again in our own age. Have you ordered your copy yet? You can still get it here.
“Cardinal John Onaiyekan Encourages Dialogue and Peace,” by Deborah Castellano Lubov, National Catholic Register, October 21, 2018:
Cardinal John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, archbishop of Abuja, Nigeria, spoke with the Register in Bologna, Italy, during a break at the 32nd meeting in Assisi, Oct. 14-16. The annual meeting was started by Pope St. John Paul II in 1986 and continued by the Community of Sant’Egidio, where representatives of different cultures, faiths and religions joined together to build “bridges of peace.”…
Your Eminence, you are not new to these annual meetings of the Community of Sant’Egidio intending to perpetuate the “spirit of Assisi.” How is the “spirit of Assisi” today?
I see the spirit of Assisi as a gift, a grace that Our Lord has given to the world. We live in such a perplexing world, with so many wars! But there are also many groups that talk about peace, whose purpose is to follow this “spirit of Assisi,” and this is encouraging!
Let’s consider the guests who came to Bologna to take part in this “Bridges of Peace” encounter; many of them have been coming for many years, and this impresses me! And not just Catholics, but also Muslims, Buddhists. … They leave for a few days all their commitments to participate in this meeting, year after year; we always find ourselves here again together every time. Some might think that it is wasting time, but for me, it is a sign of hope, knowing how to come to these meetings and find peace-seekers. The “spirit of Assisi” has given life to a community of seekers of peace, which includes everyone: Christians, Muslims, rich people and poor people …
You speak of hope even if, from 1986 onwards, religious fundamentalism has surged. Looking at what these meetings promote, the world, one could observe, seems to be going at times in the opposite direction.
This is the experience that we are facing in Nigeria: There exist the “fanatic” Muslims — to use a bad word — just as there are also fanatic Christians; they have terrible ideas, which I absolutely do not agree with. But we always say: This is the price to pay for religious freedom, to let everyone speak. But then it’s up to us to work toward necessary moderation, having a nonpartial vision of what religion is, and to do our work.
How would you describe the danger of radical religious fundamentalism in Nigeria?
It’s clear to me now. Religious fundamentalism flourishes when people live in a situation of general social and economic hardship, where the government does not do what it needs to do. … Where there is no social justice, it is much easier for a pastor or imam to tell young people: “Look, the situation you are in is this way because the religion you profess is not a serious religion. … You can convert to true Islam, the serious one,” which is obviously “their” Islam. And there are Christians among the endless sects of them in Nigeria who have problematic ideas. … As archbishop of Abuja, I can only say that this is not Christianity! Then I ask all my Muslim friends to say clearly that the discourses of Boko Haram are not the voice of true Islam! We try to move forward, launching concrete messages for a peaceful country, based on justice, even exhorting the government to do what is its duty….
CogitoErgoSum says
I ask the Cardinal: If you think Islam is so good, why are you not a Muslim?
Elee says
Perhaps b/c he’s a decent but naive man. This may actually make him more dangerous than a Muslim.
James Borona says
Or, perhaps b.s. I listened to homilies by two (2) Nigerian bishops assigned to my former Florida parish some years back. I always felt they were addressing 8-year old kids in the bush. To me, they were the quintessence of naivete.
That makes them and Pope Francisco dangerous in matters relating to Islam.
Yours in Jesus Christ.
CogitoErgoSum says
It just makes no sense. He claims to know true Islam and yet he is not a Muslim. Why? I think he is afraid if he told the Muslims the truth as to why they just might go Boko Haram on him.
mgoldberg says
He suffers most likely from Wish fulfillment syndrome.
The desire to as it were, click one’s heels and believe something is true, when it clearly has no basis in reality.
Norger says
I agree with you. Among many decent and otherwise intelligent people, there is this complete inability to even see, much less comprehend and acknowledge the connection Islam and:terrorism; misogyny; human right abuses etc. etc. To such people, the actual content of Islamic theology doesn’t matter. The fact that the vast majority of “terrorists” self-identity as devout Muslims acting in accordance with Islamic imperatives doesn’t matter. Islam’s bloody 1400 year history doesn’t matter. Current events don’t matter.
I think part of this “ ‘true’ Islam MUST be non-violent, tolerant, fully compatible with western civilization” mindset relates to the idea that all major religions can only be “good.” Christians, particularly clergy, seem to project their internal assumptions about what every religion “must” be onto Islam. At the end of the day, it’s just freakin’ bizarre to me though. It’s just the ultimate level of denial.
mortimer says
Cardinal Onaiyekan MAY BE NAIVE, as you say, but there is NO EXCUSE for him to REMAIN NAIVE about JIHADISM.
JIHADISM teaches Muslim that STRUGGLE TO SUBJUGATE KAFIRS is the DUTY OF EVERY MUSLIM.
If Onaiyekan doesn’t know that, HE’D BETTER LEARN IT IMMEDIATELY, because 2,000 Christians are MURDERED FOR THEIR FAITH EVERY YEAR IN NIGERIA !
START LEARNING WHAT ISLAM TEACHES, CARDINAL ONAIYEKAN ! 5 or 6 Nigerian Christians are murdered for their faith EVERY DAY.
jule says
Did he ever say he Read the Qur’an/Hadiths? Lots of people are naive BECAUSE they have not read the bigoted, supremacist sources. It is not just about the violence but the goal and the way to achieve it with some fact that Allah cursed Jews and they no longer are in the line of Abraham for being such bad people. Now Abraham belongs only to Islam and Islam is the One and Only True, legitimate religion. Their duty is to cover the earth and especially take everything Abraham away from Jews/Judaism and destroy the history and Memory. The think this will prove to the future that Adam, Noah,Abraham, Moses, even Jesus were really Muslim and so must everyone be. By all means available to them. ALL PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IS READ THAT DARN BOOK. It explains all the trouble and how its members are ruled by punishment, fear and terror of Allah, their families, their friends. their town, their Government. If they do not BELIEVE, they get killed.
mortimer says
NAIEVTY DISAPPEARS AFTER YOU READ THIS: AL WALAA WAL BARAA … the MOTIVE OF ISLAM … TO HATE KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’ …
ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF HATE: ‘AL BARAA’ = Islamic Apartheid, Shunning
‘Baraa’ is HATRED towards Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’…Al Bughoud or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love towards Muslims). Baraa is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the dirty kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca. – https://islamfuture.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/al-wala-wal-bara-according-to-the-aqeedah-of-the-salaf-parts-123/
-Shaykh Ahmad ibn ‘Atiq said:
“There isn’t in the Book of Allah the Exalted – after the issue concerning the obligation of tawheed and the forbiddance of its opposite (kufr=wrong belief)- any issue which has as so many proofs, nor so clearly explained, than the issue of al-walaa’ and al-baraa’.” (W-B is ‘Islamic apartheid’)
– from Sufi scholar Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624): “The honour of Islam lies in INSULTING kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to HUMILIATE them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain TERRIFIED and TREMBLING. It is intended to hold them under CONTEMPT and to uphold the honour and might of Islam.”
– from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show ANIMOSITY and HATRED towards disbelievers and NEVER support them.”
– from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”: “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as ENEMIES and HATE them because of their kufr (wrong belief), just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.”
– from [Chap.iv] “The Islaamic Concept of al-Walaa’ wal-Baraa’” by Khalid El-Gharib: “… to SHOW ENMITY to those who show enmity to Allaah and His Messenger”.
(Note: Muslims are to visibly demonstrate their ENMITY or HATRED towards the kufaar)
– from a lecture given by Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal (H.A.): “The implication of al-Baraa is that one HATES for the sake of Allah (SWT)…Al-Baraa means to recognize who your enemies are and to HATE them and EXTERMINATE them in their Endeavour to get rid of your Deen, al-Islam…Al-Baraa is to HATE the people who propagate Baatil (falsehood)—the Muslim should HATE them and (at least desire to) KILL them when the time comes.”
(Note: not ‘if the time comes’, but ‘WHEN the time comes.)
– “Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason (i.e. criticism of Islam), you can say, it is OK – even if there is NO REASON for it. You can poison, ambush and kill non-believers. You must have a stand with your heart, with your tongue, with your money, with your hand, with your sword, with your Kalashnikov. Don’t ask shall I do this, just do it.”Abu Hamza al-Masri (Egyptian born British Cleric)
– “As a Muslim, I must have hatred for anything non-Islam” – Anjem Choudary.
– “The matter is clear on this issue. It is obligatory to disassociate and absolve oneself from the disbelievers and their religion. The issue of al-Walaa wal-Baraa is from among the greatest obligations in Islaam.” (Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzan, 2005, p. 308)
– Obligation to Hate Kufaar: “With regard to matters of love and hate in the heart, the Muslims’ attitude towards non-Muslims is based on the latter’s attitude towards Allaah. If they worship Allaah and do not associate anything in worship with Him, then they love them. If they associate others in worship with Him, or disbelieve in Him, or worship others alongside Him, or are hostile towards His religion and hate the truth, then it is obligatory to hate them in our hearts.” – Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
Al-WALAA wal BARAA is STANDARD, NORMATIVE ISLAM, rather than an aberration.
mortimer says
correction “NAIVETY”
nicu says
Islam was always violent and conquered !
https://www.welt.de/geschichte/article136957923/Selbstmordattentaeter-im-Namen-des-Islam.html
I think it’s possible to translate it 🙂 It shows that radical Islam always existed – and it is based on their history that they still act like this in these days .
Moderate Muslims keep saying it’s not the true Islam , but do they fight it ? Or speak up when their brothers kill and rape ?
jule says
Only one time did I ever see a Muslim young man stop his brother from rape.
I met this guy while in Holland 1971 at the University cafeteria and he told me I ought to come to his house and his mother would make a really good Moroccan coucous for lunch. Ok, it sounded like a cultural education so I went. His mom was sitting in a chair sewing. She never looked up when he introduced me, except to glance at him sideways. His older brother was there too. So he wanted to show me something and took me to his room, slammed the door and I started Screaming & he grabbed me but I got out of the room and bolted for the front door, but it was locked from the inside. I was screaming and pounding on the apt. door and wall. The mother kept sewing. The brother just sat there but finally got up and asked….did I really want to go? Was this really without my consent? DUH….Screaming, let me out, I’m going to the polis, let me out or your Dutch neighbors will call the polis Screaming top of my lungs…so he unlocked the door and the younger brother grabbed him from behind….but I was GONE. So OCCASIONALLY a Muslim might try to do what is right but against the ‘family’ (the Umma Warlord Gang like Mafia) This is a true story from 1971. I knew nothing of Islam but learning fast…still, back in the states a few years later I did not know Muslims or Qur’an were HERE. I thought they were all over there. 1990’s I started really researching and now I know exactly what it is. I feel sorry for Muslims but only the fringe who ignore all teachings can be called moderate. Moderate is a tiny fringe who do not take the stuff seriously.
mortimer says
Thank you, Jule, for your bloodcurdling testimony. You have given a perfect example of AL WALAA WAL BARAA (hatred directed towards KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’). Part of jihad is to HUMILIATE the KAFIR … to make the kafir feel SUBDUED … nothing humiliates like rape, so it is a ‘good’ deed in Islam. There is no punishment in Sharia law for the RAPE of a KAFIR … it is a DUTY to humiliate and HATE the kafir.
Jule, PLEASE READ AND STUDY the doctrine of AL WALAA WAL BARAA and explain it to others.
jule says
Thank you, I definitely will.
gravenimage says
Jule, thank for this harrowing story–so glad you got away.
Did you report this to the police?
And your description of the mother through all this is very chilling–I have heard of similar reactions before.
jule says
Yes, I thought maybe the old mother was deaf…..but she was not blind because she was sewing.
I could only tell the University but they said since nothing happened I should just remember that I am American visiting and I since I do not know all the ins&outs, not to be so trusting or naive. They did check that he was not a student and they would put more eyes on the campus.
Wellington says
Another willfully ignorant cleric in the Christian community. By now most every adult Christian should know that in the Islamic theological blueprint there is contempt for Christianity. The Trinity is looked upon by Islam as evidence of polytheism. Per Islamthink, Jesus is one of the greater Muslim prophets before the last and greatest of the prophets, Mohammed by name, and said Muslim Jesus is going to throw all Christians into Hell at the end of the world for deifying Him. Christians, along with Jews, are described in the Koran, Sura 98.6, as “the vilest of creatures.” Wherever Muslims have dominated, Christians are pure second-class citizens in this world compared to Muslims and this dhimmi, Jim Crow-like, status is upheld to this very day by every major school of Islamic theology, for instance the four main Sunni schools—Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali and Shafi.
There is no excuse for any adult Christian any longer to think that Islam is a good thing. It most certainly is not. It is the only religion that calls for war to be made upon mankind “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39} Over one hundred verses in the Koran call for such a war. No other religion in its theory calls for war to be made upon anyone. Islam is alone in this regard as it is with its massive intolerance and proclivity for warfare and brutality (e.g., Sura 47.3 which states that when you meet the unbelievers “strike their necks,” i.e., decapitate them).
So, what’s up with this Nigerian cardinal? He is, at best, ignorantly and foolishly supportive of some good and benevolent Islam lurking out there somewhere. But it doesn’t. Never has. Never will.
Elee says
Is it possible to know less about Islam than the Pope?
Wellington says
Theoretically possible, Elee, but deuce difficult to “accomplish.”
EVERY Catholic who has any real knowledge of what Catholicism has stood for through the centuries, and I’m here referencing Catholicism at its best—the Catholicism that produced Gregorian Chant, the intellectual architecture of Erigena, Anselm, Aquinas et al., the actual and magnificent architectural creations which are Romanesque, Gothic and Baroque art, the many astounding achievements of Renaissance painters such as Fra Angelico, da Vinci, Michelangelo (the greatest sculptor too of all time), Titian, et al., cannot not conclude what a disaster of a Pope that Francis has been.
Whatever his motives, whatever he knows, Pope Francis is, and this is easily and eminently arguable, in the process of doing more harm to the Catholic Church than any other Catholic in history (even someone like Pope Leo X {1513-1521} who miscalculated on Martin Luther most terribly). Yep, Francis is “right on course” to “achieve” this; indeed, he’s this awful.
Damn shame, because a Catholic Church with its “head on right” is an important factor in insuring that the most important civilization in history respecting the advancement of freedom, i.e., Western Civilization, remains dominant and confident. Sadly, not with the present Pope can this remotely be said to be the case. Thus, beyond tragic.
Indiana Tom says
Pope Francis is from Argentina and Latin America loves Catholic Liberation Theology. Everything he does is lock step with marxis Catholic Liberation Theology.
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
Wellington says
Thank you, gravenimage.
You know, a Roman Catholic Church which has lost its way, as it surely has, does not bode well for all of Western Civilization, the pioneer of liberty like no other civilization in history. One knows and sees this or should know and see this.
And this is why I look upon Pope Francis as an enemy of liberty, which must always, to insure its survival, be accompanied by proper knowledge and common sense, neither of which Francis possesses.
Not good. Not good at all.
gravenimage says
Grimly true–the Pope is very influential–including with many non-Catholics and even non-Christians.
Michael Copeland says
“No peace can be made between us [Muslims] and the non-believers.
This what our holy book says. This what Allah says”,
Yusuf Al Qaradawi,
Spiritual Guide to Muslim Brotherhood.
As Tony Blair said, “There is a problem within Islam”.
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/extremism-–-there-problem-within-islam
mortimer says
Agree with Mr. W. The term ‘WILLFULLY IGNORANT’ certainly apply to Cardinal Onaiyekan.
I say to Cardinal Onaiyekan, “DON’T LET YOURSELF BE DUPED.”
It’s obvious Cardinal Onaiyekan is ignorant of Islam and has NOT TAKEN THE TROUBLE TO READ the Sira, hadiths and Koran, the canonical commentaries or the manuals of Sharia law. Nor has Cardinal Onaiyekan ever read a single book of ISLAMIC HISTORY, for if he had, HE WOULD HAVE NO DOUBT that Islam has a CANONICAL DOCTRINE of warfare against DISBELIEVERS merely because THEY ARE DISBELIEVERS.
As horrible as that is, dear Cardinal Onaiyekan, THAT IS THE FACT.
YOUR EMMINENCE, there is no ‘SWEETENING’ JIHAD! Jihad is horror, terror and deception non-stop until the entire CHRISTIAN CHURCH is destroyed.
YOUR EMMINCENCE, sometimes a SHEPHERD has to pull out his SLING and BOW AND ARROWS and ATTACK the ENEMIES OF THE FLOCK.
YOUR EMMINENCE, IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, YOUR EMMINENCE.
Cardinal Onaiyekan should read THE HISTORY OF JIHAD by Robert Spencer and he will soon lose his ROSE-COLOURED GLASSES !
Myrl Nisely says
Substitute the names of nearly every member of the American government for Cardinal Onaiyekan and you have the same woeful ignorance.
jule says
I think the Pope said love them until they finally love us back. Fight evil with love. Jesus wanted us to love the enemy. Just trust in God. It is very misguided, ignorant advice. And you can love your enemy and lock him up for his own good & everyone elses. Because his mind is not his own. His Humanity is hardened and destroyed by upbringing and Mosque education.
Because he has never read the Qur’an or had any dealings with gangs and rules. Remember the part that says “you may not like all WE tell you. You may not want to fight but WE know better than you. Obey’ (Paraphrased) I think the WE are supposed angels or like Genesis, creation story that refers to WE. They could also be ‘the voices’ of entities or Jinns. But a Muslims mind is not his own if he BELIEVES. Can’t talk to them, can’t make friends or make peace. no way nothing till Qur’an is exposed for exactly what it is.
mortimer says
Jule, “Be wise as serpents” – Jesus, Matt. 10.16
(“‘Lo, I do send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves, be ye therefore wise as the serpents”)
A Christian should be INFORMED and BE AWARE OF THE EVIL, PREDATORY INTENTIONS OF ISLAM.
Muslims know the KAFIRS have it coming to them.
From the Sira (official biography of Mohammed): Ishaq: 414 “If you kill us, the true religion is ours. And to be killed for the truth is to find favor with Allah. If you think that we are fools, know that the opinion of those who oppose Islam is misleading. We are MEN OF WAR who get the utmost from it. We inflict PAINFUL PUNISHMENTon those who oppose us…. If you insult Allah’s Apostle, Allah will slay you. You are a cursed, rude fellow! You utter filth, and then throw it at the clean-robed, godly, and faithful One.”
gravenimage says
Jule wrote:
I think the Pope said love them until they finally love us back.
……………..
Jule, I’m afraid the Pope is far more Islamophilic than this.
Marina says
Cardinal why don’t you read some passages from the Koran ? You are utterly clueless.
mortimer says
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
mach37 says
Thanks for the Study Guide; saves me some time in my Islamic studies. What I have found, so far is that, if the verses of the Koran that call for violence or Islamic domination of infidels are deleted, what is left is either blather, or at very most, nothing that is better than any other religion. The Koran and Islam are anathematic to this world.
A typical blathering verse: S. 64:17- “If you loan Allah a goodly loan, He will multiply it for you.”
But what would Allah ever need a loan for? Blather.
gravenimage says
Nigerian Cardinal: “I ask my Muslim friends to say the discourses of Boko Haram are not the voice of true Islam!”
……………….
Good luck with that…
Mirren10 says
Oh, I don’t know graven, there are quite a few mohammedans in masks out there, busily telling us Boko Haram, Isis, 9/11, etc, etc, is not the *true* islam ! 🙂
jule says
Like when Richard Prior skit told his wife when she caught him cheating…..’Who are you going to believe, your lying eyes or Me, the one who loves you?’
I do know some very wonderful Muslims who think they were Born Muslim but do not have to study it or bother with Mosque or Qur’an. They went to private Christian schools in India. So they are just good people with nice normal families.
mortimer says
Yes, Jule, they do not practice ALL of Islam … they ignore about 60% or more of Islam: jizzya, enslavement, conquest, going to war 3 times a year, the Pact of Omar, etc.
They are very lax Muslims, not strict, observant Muslims. They disbelieve much of the Koran, for instance, ‘The sun sets in a muddy spring’ (K.18.86).
When we meet ‘nice’ Muslims, we are seeing people who do not practice most of what Islam requires … or these people are pretending to be friendly to kafirs for some opportunistic motive.
Ibn Kathir and his commentary on chapter 3 verse 28 of the Quran:
“BELIEVERS ARE ALLOWED TO SHOW FRIENDSHIP TO THE DISBELIEVERS OUTWARDLY, BUT NEVER INWARDLY. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “We smile in the face of some people ALTHOUGH OUR HEARTS CURSE THEM.””
gravenimage says
And Mirren, a lot of foolish Infidels swallow this Taqiyya hook, line, and sinker.
Ray Jarman says
The cardinal forgot to mention the Fulani and the good muslim citizens of Jos who on many occasions have slaughtered Christians for no cause. Maybe the Christians of Lagos, River State, Eboni and other non cult states were to mount an effort to capture the government in Abuja by the ballot, a true effort to eradicate the Fulani and Boko Haram completely would ensue. The Nigerian military also needs to be paid a living wage as it is common for them to set up road stops along the major highways as well as stop points within the cities in order to beg for money. My fear is that sooner or later the people of the southern states will rise up and internecine will occur and thousands if not millions will die. My wife and I have many good friends in Nigeria and they deserve much better.
Keys says
Road blocks by the military to beg for money !
Would that begging be with an AK47 ?
Sounds intimidating – I think I’d come up with something to give them.
b.a. freeman says
… sooner or later the people of the southern states will rise up and internecine [war] will occur and thousands if not millions will die.
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already happened, Ray. remember biafra? it wasn’t pretty. the biafrans started out winning battles, but no nations wanted to help them; without access to arms, they lost the civil war. i suspect that there are probably more muslims than non-muslims living in nigeria, or perhaps the muslims are just better-armed and control the military.
Ray Jarman says
You are quiet correct about the Biafra revolt and not only did the press in the US and elsewhere write negatively about the concerns of the Christian and other non muslims such as the many Animist religions in many of the southern states of Nigeria. You are, also, certainly correct about the majority of the Nigerian population being non muslim but the political apparatus was established to favor the muslims. Also the non muslim population has many different factions and this also favors the muslims. It is said in Nigeria that if a truly honest person were to win the presidency, that person would be killed as I mentioned before that Obasanjo while president asked at a New Years’ radio talk that the civil servants not extort so much money from the people in the upcoming year. He never requested that they be honest but a little less dishonest.
One example of the corruption was when my wife and several other church members were driving to the airport from our church’s celebration of the first temple in Nigeria located in Abia were stopped just outside of Port Harcourt by the police and forced to give them money. The driver had committed no traffic offense except for being on the road. Most people in Nigeria do not trust the government in Abuja no matter who the ruling party. With all of the discord in the southern states, I do think that sooner than later, they will stand up and say “enough is enough” and rid the country of the Fulani and force the government to completely annihilate Boko Haram and its support in many of the villages once and for all. It must be remembered that most of Boko Haram’s victims have been innocent muslims in Borno State while the Fulani have conducted their slaughter of Christians simply for being Christian.
gravenimage says
Muslims victimize other Muslims as well as Infidels.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“The Open Border Activists Behind the Illegal Immigrant Caravans”
https://capitalresearch.org/article/the-open-border-activists-behind-the-illegal-immigrant-caravans/
nicholas tesdorf says
Good luck with getting a disclamer of any sort on that topic, Cardinal John Onaiyekan. You should know better by now how Muslims think.
Gerald Mucci says
Is that man mentally deficient or just influenced by the other deficients around him? Hard to figure.
Gerald Mucci says
His first mistake was having Muslim friends.
Indiana Tom says
Muslims — to use a bad word — just as there are also fanatic Christians.”
Yeah, lots of Christian Jihadis running around attacking people.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Robert Spencer might want to consider creating a http://www.brighteon.com (formerly http://www.real.video) channel.
Here are some examples of their videos:
https://www.brighteon.com/5824624994001
https://www.brighteon.com/5854066824001
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Mike Adams, the founder of Brighteon talks about the platform and its future plans:
https://www.brighteon.com/5852068967001
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
It appears to me that Mr spencer do not want hear the truth as stated by the Archbishop, he simply want connect his fiticious “jihad from muhammad to Isis “to Boko Haram phenomenone in Nigeria at all cost. Remember, Boko Haram ideology from Wahhabism that gave rise to Isis is a strange idea of Islam to Nigerian muslims. It was as a result of destruction of Libya headed by evil United States that some few Nigerians residing in Libya got indoctrinated with Isis ideology.when they came back to Nigeria they to tried sell it out to Nigerian muslims, but muslim population resisted it. The Government then intervened and the leader of Boko Haram ,Muhammad Yusuf, was killed by the security agents. His followers went into hiding carrying out attacks on security agents and Muslim population they considered as spies for the security agents. There are few christians in the areas Boko Haram rascals operate. As such their main targets are Muslims as over 98% of their victims are Muslims. The question of Boko Haram as muslim jihadi group targeting mithraist christians in Nigeria will not even arise. It was vicious mithraist christian Association of Nigeria that passed such false propagandas from the incident of Boko Haram abductions of Chibok and Dapchi school girls who comprise Muslim and Christian girls that Boko Haram is a Muslim jihadi group fighting christians in Nigeria.
mortimer says
Ibrahim, SHOW SOME EVIDENCE THAT CHRISTIANITY WAS INFLUENCED BY MITHRAISM … YOUR *CLAIM* IS UNPROVEN … YOU HAVE NO *ARGUMENT* SO YOU LOSE. YOU ARE A BIG THUG AND A COWARD … YOU MAKE UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS AND RUN AWAY … WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CRIMINAL MIND … it is … fascinating. No argument = automatic *FAIL* … Ibrahim, you lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE&t=594s
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
It appears to me that Mr spencer do not want hear the truth as stated by the Archbishop, he simply want connect his fiticious “jihad from muhammad to Isis “to Boko Haram phenomenone in Nigeria at all cost. Remember, Boko Haram ideology from Wahhabism that gave rise to Isis is a strange idea of Islam to Nigerian muslims.
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This Christian is just desperately hoping that Muslims will disavow violent Jihad–but they won’t. Ceertainly, Ibrahim itace muhammed regularly affirms that Muslims can slaughter any Infidels who don’t submit to Islam.
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It was as a result of destruction of Libya headed by evil United States that some few Nigerians residing in Libya got indoctrinated with Isis ideology.when they came back to Nigeria they to tried sell it out to Nigerian muslims, but muslim population resisted it.
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The claim that Jihad is new in Nigeria is simply risible. As another poster notes above, the Muslim attacks on Christian and animist Biafrans in the 1960s was a Jihad.
Jihad in Nigeria dates back many centuries.
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The Government then intervened and the leader of Boko Haram ,Muhammad Yusuf, was killed by the security agents. His followers went into hiding carrying out attacks on security agents and Muslim population they considered as spies for the security agents. There are few christians in the areas Boko Haram rascals operate. As such their main targets are Muslims as over 98% of their victims are Muslims.
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I am *so* tired of the idea that since Muslims regularly murder other Muslims that this–somehow–means they are less of a threat to Infidels. This is obviously false.
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The question of Boko Haram as muslim jihadi group targeting mithraist christians in Nigeria will not even arise. It was vicious mithraist christian Association of Nigeria that passed such false propagandas from the incident of Boko Haram abductions of Chibok and Dapchi school girls who comprise Muslim and Christian girls that Boko Haram is a Muslim jihadi group fighting christians in Nigeria.
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It is notable that Boko Haram let the Muslim girls go, and kept and raped the Christians. And the idea that the attack on Chibok was the only Boko Haram attack on Christians is, of course, ludicrous.
Here are Boko Haram stories at JIhad Watch:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/boko-haram
They include accounts of Boko Haram murdering a Red Cross worker and using a Christian child as a sex slave; murdering Christians and Muslims, and kidnapping Christian girls.
And his implication that Muslims don’t support Boko Haram is quite false; Muslims are also sending them children to use as Jihadists and suicide bombers.
FYI says
What friends is the Archbishop talking about?He may imagine he has muslim friends but according to allah’s koran..
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends.They are friends to one another.He among you who takes them for friends is one of them”
Koran 5 v 51
muslims are not supposed to be friends with the “infidels”.
That is due to islam’s superiority complex{koran 3:110}along with the absence of that essential 2nd chief commandment of God{missing in islam..}
Thus,there is no “Love thy Neighbor”,no Golden Rule in islam.
Dapto says
Cardinal John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, archbishop of Abuja, Nigeria, who lives and has lived in the vatican for the last 20 years has the gaul to say this.
Olufemi says
The cardinal, other Christian Islamic apologetics and their Western allies are all bewitched by the spirit of error which is a byproduct of satanic indwelling in their lives. This is the reason why they find it hard to consult and study Islamic resources to unveil the proto-nazi nature of Islam. They are always eager to romance with a cult that is opposed to the nature and character of God. Let us endeavor to pray for their deliverance so that spiritual eyes may be opened.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Olufemi, as mithraist christian barbarian wearing winged gown jumping up and down to go to heaven from the Barbeach in Lagos Nigeria you don’t know the true nature of Islam, you reproduce the concocted lies against Islam by orientalists and mithraist christian evangelist liars debunked by Muslim scholars for long. Shit!!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed keeps repeating this claptrap about Christianity–of course, there is no such rite as “jumping up to heaven with winged gowns”.
And then he says that Muslim scholars have “debunked” Christian’s concerns about Muslims slaughtering them. Yet, his corelgionists go on murdering Christians. If he *really* cared about this, why wouldn’t he take it up with his fellow Muslims?
Of course, he himself has said that Muslims have the right to slaughter any Infidels who do not submit to Islam, so this is a moot point.
dumbledoresarmy says
““Then I ask all my Muslim friends to say clearly that the discourses of Boko Haram are not the voice of true Islam!”
But they can’t, and they won’t, because… the discourses of Boko Haram are purely, classically, traditionally Islamic.
Groups like Boko Haram, Al shabaab, etc, are.. Muslim revivalist groups, reviving Islam pur et dur.
This African Christian needs to read the Quran, and the Sira, if he has not already done so. He is Nigerian, and educated; he probably has a better grasp of classical English than many English speakers; he should therefore avail himself of Muir’s and Guillaume’s translations of the Sira of Ibn Ishaq.
He needs Robert Spencer’s “The Truth About Mohammed” and “The History of Jihad”.
Perhaps a Catholic jihadwatcher might research his address, and then send him… complimentary copies.
Or he could be sent Conor Cruise O’Brien’s brilliant article, “The Lesson of Algeria: Islam is Indivisible”, from the 1990s.
O’Brien says flatly, in that article, “The jihad is back”.
He also says, “”The Prophet Mohamed did not offer his followers a chance to live in harmony with their neighbours. He taught them to fight their neighbours, if they were unbelievers, and kill them or beat them into submission. And it is futile to say of those Muslims who faithfully follow those teachings today that their actions are not ‘intrinsically related to Islam’.
“We are facing an Islamic revival.”
gravenimage says
So true, DDA.
dumbledoresarmy says
The good Cardinal also needs to read Quran 48.29, and have a good long think about whether his Muslim ‘friends’ really are or can be his ‘friends’ in any meaningful sense.
He needs to find out about al-wala wa -al-bara, Loyalty (to Muslims only) and Enmity (toward the nonMuslim qua nonMuslim) and all the verses of hate in the Quran, and the equally ugly material in the Sira and Hadiths.
Then he could warn his flock against trusting to the false smiles of Muslims deceivers.
Nero says
Itace Mohammed is not truthful I study in Maiduguri during Mohammad Yusuf fatwas to then President Yar’adua.I saw Mohammed Yusuf live in Maiduguri teaching hospital when his father was sick.BH attacks were initially against Christians but when the government introduce securities to investigate those killings they started targeting them of course now the security consist of both religions. This is what brought confusion and killing of Muslims.Bush once said “if you are not with us then….” BH backed that with……? I’m toodler here.
Olufemi says
Ibrahim Muhammed. Gone are the days when Islamic defenders and guardians could easily hoodwink and mislead by the nose their own people and the outside world. The true doctrine of Islam which had been dissimulated from public perusal over centuries is coming to the knowledge of Muslims and non-Muslims, thanks to Arabic language studies that have germinated in many Faculties all over the world. I can cite at least a dozen publications by Arabs which are been kept away from Muslims. I pray that one day and soon you come across some in your mother tongue that will change your life for ever.
mach37 says
Read the Koran and you will come to believe that Boko Haram, ISIS, Taliban and the like are the True Voices of Islam. Any who claim that moderate Islam is the True Islam are infidels.
terry says
The more they try to cover the stench of evil, the more they expose it.
Muslims are the victims of islamic chains that dictate their every move, they risk their lives if they dare to escape.
dee says
True believers of Christ follow his words and teachings. Similarly , Muslims , which are true believers , follow the quran to the letter.
Therefore it is my opinion that jihadis are the ones obeying the commands of their religion.
Like Catholics who go to Easter and Christmas mass , then hang up their crucifix for the year , the lapsed Muslims are the peaceful ones.