It is unclear on what grounds the High Peace Council (HPC) could declare the Taliban’s jihad un-Islamic anyway, as warfare against unbelievers is a well-established principle in the Qur’an and Sunnah, and particularly so when that warfare can be cast as defensive. The High Peace Council will probably issue a deceptive document that relies on U.S. officials’ ignorance of Islam. Still, it is noteworthy that the Taliban would be concerned enough about this conference to issue this call.
“Taliban Urge Clerics Not to Attend ‘Anti-Jihad’ Meeting,” by Ayaz Gul, VOA News, September 29, 2018:
The Taliban have denounced Afghanistan and Pakistan for planning to convene a major bilateral conference of religious scholars in a bid to declare the Afghan insurgency as un-Islamic.
An Afghan delegation composed of officials and clerics is visiting Islamabad and holding talks with Pakistani counterparts to prepare ground and an agenda for the proposed conference of “ulemas,” or clerics. The deputy head of the government-appointed High Peace Council (HPC), Atta-ur-Rehman Saleem, is leading the Afghan delegation….
“The Islamic Emirate [the Taliban] calls on religious scholars in Afghanistan and Pakistan not to attend the meeting and fall victim to America’s plots and desist from indirectly cooperating with American invaders,” said a Taliban statement issued Saturday.
It alleged the United States is plotting Afghan clerics’ meetings with counterparts in other countries to try to build religious opposition to the insurgent group’s “ongoing jihad,” or holy war, against foreign “occupation” of the country….
Some religious groups in Pakistan have long voiced support for the Taliban and publicly defended the Afghan insurgency as Islamic jihad. Kabul believes leaders of these groups could use their influence to help reduce violence and promote an Afghan political reconciliation process.
mortimer says
Jihad is in fact HATED by most Islamic countries if the jihad is happening close to home or at home. It’s ironic that Muslims generally DON’T WANT TO CONDUCT JIHAD … they just want to play silly bugger games with the dirty kufaar.
It seems that the coolness towards jihad is a sign that Muslims don’t actually believe that jihad is DUTY for them.
Most Muslims are limiting their jihad to VERBAL JIHAD, namely, they are DENYING and DISINFORMING about the meaning, motive and methods of jihad.
Muslims are practicing OBSTRUCTIONIST jihads and ANTI-FREE SPEECH JIHADS around the world, but they are reluctant to put their lives and livelihoods at stake by practicing KINETIC, MILITARY JIHAD.
NON-JIHADIST Muslims are demonstrating that they only HALF BELIEVE in Islam.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, it is not that Muslims reject Jihad–it’s just that rulers in Muslim countries don’t want to face a Jihad *against themselves*.
J D S says
The only good thing that could come out of this HPC is that clerics could say, would be….We denounce any and all jihad.
gravenimage says
Taliban calls on Muslim clerics not to attend meeting to declare their jihad “un-Islamic”
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More threats from the “religion of peace”–even against Muslim clerics.
StellaSaidSo says
Muslim clerics have never been exempt from jihad threats.
gravenimage says
No, they haven’t–if they are “other sect” or considered lax Muslims.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
How could Mr spencer preempt that the Islamic scholars have no ground to declare terrorist activities by Taliban and other terrorist groups as unislamic considering the fact that he is not learned on sharia regulations governing the conduct of jîhad fighting?Note :mr spencer shares the same perverted interpretations of Islamic sources, which are glaring from his articles at this site and his fictitious book “jîhad from Isis to muhammad “.
gravenimage says
The repellent Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
How could Mr spencer preempt that the Islamic scholars have no ground to declare terrorist activities by Taliban and other terrorist groups as unislamic considering the fact that he is not learned on sharia regulations governing the conduct of jîhad fighting?
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Of course, Robert Spencer does not say this–he says it is unclear on what grounds this could be done.
Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed does not say on what grounds this could be done, either–in fact, he has *affirmed* that Muslims have the right to murder both Infidels and the insufficiently Islamic.
He does not appear to have any ideological disagreements with Jihadists like the Taliban–he just considers them rivals to his own Jihad thugs.
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Note :mr spencer shares the same perverted interpretations of Islamic sources, which are glaring from his articles at this site and his fictitious book “jîhad from Isis to muhammad “.
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If Ibrahim itace muhammed *really* considered Jihad savagery “perverted”, he would take it up with the hordes of his coreligonists waging Jihad today, instead of spouting Taqiyya here at Jihad Watch.
And what is “fictitious” about Robert Spencer’s book–many of which accounts are taken from Islamic sources. Note that he cannot cite a single point.
Is Ibrahim itace muhammed pretending that Muslims haven’t been waging violent Jihad against the Infidels for almost 1400 years now? What baldfaced dishonesty.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage,it means you like Taliban to continue with their rascality for your armed robber evil United States to continue with international brigandage destroying Muslim nations to steal. But even savage mad devil Trump cried that the cost/loss in such banditaries higher than gain by $7 trillions. Are you happy with that because it conforms with genocide commanded in your mithraist pagan Bible inspired by the satan In Samuel 15:3 and other verses of genocide?
FYI says
“mithraist” pagan Bible inspired by satan
Oh you mean the one allah says he wrote..
THE BIBLE… THAT allah SAYS hE WROTE?
YES,THAT BIBLE.If you say the “pagan Bible was inspired by satan” you are ..
attacking allah and saying that ….allah is satan.
“….As he revealed the Torah and the Gospel”
koran 3:3
“And verily we gave unto Moses the Scripture{the Torah}”
koran 2:87
{So allah personally wrote the Torah?Let’s see:was it in Arabic?No,Hebrew.When Moses and Jesus prayed to God what language did they use?Well,it wasn’t arabic was it?!Yet allah only responds to..Arabic,not Hebrew{koran 41:44}
“Lo! this is in the former scrolls:The books of Abraham and Moses”
koran 87 v 19
“We bestowed upon Jesus the Gospel”
koran 5 v 46
{…Which is funny as the Gospel did not exist at the time of Jesus;it came AFTER and yet allah claims he himself wrote it.Christians don’t believe however that GOD Himself wrote the Gospel{or the Torah}…..yet allah thinks he did…}
And since allah claims to have written the Bible himself,those who attack “that which allah hath revealed ” i.e that “mithraist” Bible, are CURSED by allah as Evil..
“Whoso judgeth not by that which allah hath revealed.such are evil-livers”
koran 5 v 47
Clearly the primitive,islamic brain is not sufficiently evolved enough to get Irony or the sheer stupidity in constantly attacking “that which allah hath revealed”:The Bible.
The islamic brain of the Godless,demonic, savages of the Taliban or isis would have great difficulty in understanding Exodus 20/the whole point of the Torah.
And since there are no TWO CHIEF commandments in islam{..allah completely missed them..}such hate-filled,commandment-violating,murderous savages think they are free to do evil and hate because the koran,the book of error,says so.
The whole point of the Torah/Gospel is to OBEY,not violate the laws of God!!
To realize that it is a sin AGAINST God to murder and that koran 2:191 is a command to do evil
would be beyond the reasoning faculties of such devoutly muslim savages,those children of “allah the best of deceivers”.If anything was inspired by the satan,”the father of lies and the best of deceivers” it was your false “holy” book,false god{“allah the best of deceivers”},false self-confessed liar “prophet”{Al tabari 6:111}
and your murderous religious cult that is islam,”the religion of peace”.
Remember that muslims who attack that “which allah hath” written,the BIBLE,are under allah’s curse.Take it up with the author if you have a problem with the Bible
allah:the one who claims he wrote the Bible{Torah,Gospel}koran 3:3
Will the islamic troll be able understand that?
Nope.
don vito says
itace,” rascality for your armed robber evil United States to continue with international brigandage destroying Muslim nations to steal” then, “But even savage mad devil Trump cried that the cost/loss in such banditaries higher than gain by $7 trillions.” I fail to see what was “stolen”. Since the USA gave $7 trillion more, than was allegedly “stolen”. More like gigantic charity to saracen nations. What moslem nation has been “destroyed”? Afghanistan?, No. Iraq? No. Syria? No. Pakistan? No. Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Jordan, etc? No, none are destroyed all are still islamic wacko. -(-60) itace.
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Liar Gravenimage,it means you like Taliban to continue with their rascality for your armed robber evil United States to continue with international brigandage destroying Muslim nations to steal.
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How does my opposing Jihad mean I support the vicious Taliban? What crap.
I said that Ibrahim itace muhammed does not oppose them on ideological grounds–as is obvious here.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that Infidels are engaged in “international brigandage” by not allowing Muslims to enslave us.
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But even savage mad devil Trump cried that the cost/loss in such banditaries higher than gain by $7 trillions.
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What is Ibrahim itace muhammed babbling about here?
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Are you happy with that because it conforms with genocide commanded in your mithraist pagan Bible inspired by the satan In Samuel 15:3 and other verses of genocide?
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This is, as always, absurd. No Jew or Christian is murdering people because of Samuel 15:3.
Muslims regularly slaughter people based on the vicious diktats of the Qur’an and model of the “Prophet”, though.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has said that he wants to personally take part in the genocide of the Jews–so this is nothing but projection here.
Joe says
If you knew how to write, someone might take you seriously. You should learn to read and write. It is not that hard.
gravenimage says
I think that Ibrahim itace muhammed’s being illiterate is, sadly, the least of it.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Bd Burke,it is your satan god you call Holy Spirit who is sexual perverted as homosexual having anus sex with you filthy mithraist christians while you are busy fucking your horrible bad smelly ladies .scums of horrible bad smells!!
gravenimage says
This is so ludicrous, Ibrahim itace muhammed had to post it twice.
Linde Barrera says
To FYI-As per your 7:02 am comment of Oct.2, 2018 to Ibrahim Itace Muhammed; RIGHT ON! WELL SAID! PLEASE KEEP IT UP TO COUNTER IBRAHIM’S VILE AND TWISTED WORDS.
gravenimage says
+1
And good to see you posting again, Linde. Hope you are well.