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Tariq Ramadan claims consensual sex with women accusing him of rape, after previously denying any physical contact

Oct 23, 2018 1:07 pm By Robert Spencer

Tariq Ramadan’s changing of his story at this point both reveals the dishonesty of this much-lauded Islamic “reformer,” and shows that he realizes how strong the case is against him. The accusations are extremely serious, and the case is being investigated in an atmosphere of Muslim Brotherhood thuggery: one of his accusers has already been beaten and threatened.

That’s not the only violent aspect of the Ramadan case. One accuser said he subjected her to “blows to the face and body, forced sodomy, rape with an object and various humiliations, including being dragged by the hair to the bathtub and urinated on.”

Another one of his accusers said he told her he was raping her because she didn’t wear a hijab.

“Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan admits to ‘consensual’ sex with accusers,” France24, October 22, 2018:

Leading Islamic scholar Tariq Ramadan, charged with raping two women in France, claimed Monday that he had consensual sex with both of them after previously denying any physical contact.

Ramadan, a well-known TV commentator, has strongly denied accusations that he raped the women in hotel rooms as an attempted smear by his opponents.

His lawyer Emmanuel Marsigny said the Swiss academic had changed his account of what happened on the basis of text messages that have emerged between him and his two accusers.

The messages “show that the plaintiffs lied and that the sexual encounters were wanted, consensual and even sought again afterwards”, Marsigny said.

The unearthing of these messages “has allowed him to acknowledge that he had sexual relations” with the women, Marsigny said.

Ramadan, accused of raping the women in 2009 and 2012, has been in custody since February 2.

He previously insisted he had no sexual contact with his two accusers, feminist activist Henda Ayari and a disabled woman known in media reports as “Christelle”.

Ramadan was a professor at Oxford University until he was forced to take leave when the rape allegations surfaced at the height of the “Me Too” movement late last year.

The married father of four, whose grandfather founded Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, has repeatedly sought bail arguing that being in prison is making it difficult to treat his multiple sclerosis.

The courts have so far rejected his requests, ruling that he can receive adequate treatment in the prison hospital at Fresnes in the southern Paris suburbs.

Last month a computer expert working on the investigation retrieved 399 text messages between Ramadan and Christelle, whom he is accused of raping in a Lyon hotel room in 2009.

The text messages detailed his violent sexual fantasies ahead of the alleged attack.

Afterwards, the records show that he wrote to her: “I sensed your unease… apologies for my ‘violence’.”

Ramadan previously claimed he was involved in a “game of seduction” with Christelle, online and on the telephone.

But he said their only face-to-face contact was a drink in the hotel bar, describing her as a “compulsive liar”.

Ramadan’s lawyers have also provided details of his exchanges with Ayari, whom he is accused of raping in a Paris hotel in 2012.

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  1. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    What Ramadan tells the infidels in public cannot, by his own admission, be relied on.

    “Tell the infidels in public we respect your laws and your constitutions, which we Muslims believe that these are as worthless as the paper they are written on.”

    https://libertygb.org.uk/news/tariq-ramadan-respect

    • mortimer says

      Oct 23, 2018 at 10:39 pm

      Tariq Ramadan is an OBJECT LESSON for why Western women should NEVER DATE A MUSLIM.

      Bait and switch.

      • Terry Gain says

        Oct 24, 2018 at 8:52 am

        Seduce and violate,

    • Jayell says

      Oct 24, 2018 at 2:00 am

      Well, if we wanted to repay the compliment it would be perfectly justifiable to say that muslims aren’t worth the air they pollute. Just look it it in cash terms, with the negative balance in all social services worldwide.

    • f c king says

      Oct 24, 2018 at 3:29 am

      Geld him and send him home to some lovely islamic republic.

    • J D S says

      Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 am

      “Describing her as a compulsive liar” Who is the compulsive liar here? The evidence against this man shows he should never be able to be freed.

  2. Buraq says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    A ‘reformer’ who keeps reforming his story about dubious practices with women. Clown!

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm

      +1

      • mortimer says

        Oct 23, 2018 at 6:04 pm

        Yeah, even if ‘consensual’, Ramadan was a serial ADULTERER under Islamic law who should be stoned to death according to the very law code he promoted!

        Moreover, RAPING MUSLIM WOMEN is considered worthy of the death sentence, even if there is no punishment from raping KAFIR women.

        Hypocrite is the best word to describe him.

        It seems Ramadan was considered the BEST REPRESENTATIVE of Islam that they had … so what could go wrong? Ramada is a perfect example of the vehement hatred of women which is part and parcel of normative Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 23, 2018 at 6:18 pm

          Even when the rape victim is Muslim, there is rarely any punishment against male rapists under Shari’ah law.

  3. Z says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 2:11 pm

    Oh so it’s consensual? I thought it didn’t happen period!

    • mortimer says

      Oct 23, 2018 at 10:29 pm

      Yeah, the women wanted to be battered. (sarc/off)

      Control freak … like the Islamic ‘hero’ Mohammed … a real control freak.

  4. Anjuli Pandavar says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    The unearthing of these messages “has allowed him to acknowledge that he had sexual relations” with the women, Marsigny said.

    So he lied to protect his victims! What a man! Definitely the sixth pillar of Islam.

  5. Robert_k says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    Drinking in a bar? I thought Tariq was a Muslim.

    • andy mckendrick says

      Oct 23, 2018 at 3:50 pm

      Probably just a half pint of draught camels piss….

  6. DHazard says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    He has all family members, including his wife, completely bamboozled. So even if he’s found guilty in a “moderate” secular court, it won’t make any difference to his family and fans.

    What stands out is the stark contrast between the reactions of the Western media/leftists/elite/etc and the Muslim world when a famous man is accused of sexual assault. Here in the West it ruins careers and can tarnish all of their accomplishments. The accuser is encouraged and reflexively believed by most women and many men. Not so much when Muslim men are involved. The accusers are not only disbelieved but live in genuine fear.

    I wondered if there was any kind of support mechanism for Muslim women who have experienced domestic violence, run by Muslims. In the UK there is the “Muslim Women’s Helpline”. While looking that up I came across a pretty damning section headed “Cultural Barriers”, which was discussing why women don’t report sexual assault. The bootprint of Islam is all over these poor women:

    “Cultural Barriers
    Asian / Muslim women face additional cultural barriers that prevent them from seeking help such as fear of dishonoring family, shame, stigma, taboo and being rejected by the community. Also women in these communities are expected to suffer in silence. So when they ask for help from family, friends and religious leaders, they are usually advised to be patient and / or pray for their situation to change. They are also usually blamed for any problem within the family including the violence and abuse they are subjected to. This fear of blame can also prevent women from coming forward and getting the help they need. Domestic violence is therefore under reported in Asian / Muslim communities.”

    http://www.mwnhelpline.co.uk/issuesstep2.php?id=14
    Muslim Women’s Helpline UK

    • Westman says

      Oct 24, 2018 at 1:22 am

      “…it won’t make any difference to his family and fans.”

      Actually, it will. Tariq’s days of speaking engagements and faculty positions are over; not because he violated Islamic Law, rather, because he embarassed Islam amd Oxford.

      He may find that he is not safe from the “Honor Guard”, even in prison.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 24, 2018 at 5:00 pm

        Yes–Ramadan no longer appears to be the darling of the Left.

  7. Wellington says

    Oct 23, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Total scumbag is this guy. Or something even less than this, difficult though that would be to “achieve”—but Mohammedans “manage” such a lesser level than “scumbag” time and time again.

    Compounding this particular “matter” is the ever so typical Islamic denial of all wrongdoing, especially when a less-than-nothing, a kuffaar, is the subject matter, and most telling and damning to Islam as a whole, when that kuffaar is a woman, who is actually deserving of rape per the Koran in Suras 4, 23, 33, and 70 (yes, this is how truly sick the entire Islamic theological blueprint really is and why no one need respect anything about Islam).

    Islam is one wretched excuse after another of a religion, posing behind its religious veil for horrible behavior. If one has not figured this out by now, no matter how educated such a person is, then directly proportional to the cluelessness here is such a person, Muslim or non-Muslim and manifestly deficient as a human being. No exceptions. Not one damn one.

    I despise Islam as I do Nazism and Marxism. All three are totalitarian ideologies highly injurious to liberty. Frankly, if one by now doesn’t grasp why Islam should be ranked in the same category with Nazism and Marxism, that person, if an adult, is a fool. No exceptions. Not one damn one.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 23, 2018 at 10:37 pm

      Islam is conspiratorial to the core. Criminality generally uses the same basic technique that we also see in Islam … BAIT, then SWITCH.

      Ramadan presented himself as a civilized man, but as soon as no one watched him he pulled of his mask and showed the true identity of SAVAGE BEAST.

      Islam is a WOLF in SHEEP’S CLOTHING … bait … then SWITCH.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 24, 2018 at 4:04 pm

      “posing behind its religious veil for horrible behavior.”
      Tommy Robinson agrees:

      “… right there in black and white, absolute encouragement – no, a divine instruction – to act atrociously towards the rest of the world. Page after page of it. Sex slaves, the lot. The thing is horrific”.
      Tommy Robinson, in Enemy of the State

      • Michael Copeland says

        Oct 24, 2018 at 4:05 pm

        https://libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 24, 2018 at 5:01 pm

        +1

  8. A Persecuted Christian says

    Oct 24, 2018 at 6:51 am

    What a sleaze Tariq Ramadan is . This is good news that the charges are inescapable

  9. Jack Holan says

    Oct 24, 2018 at 7:33 am

    Who moved the Cheeze
    Where did the Cheeze move to this time

  10. Terry Gain says

    Oct 24, 2018 at 9:11 am

    “The unearthing of these messages “has allowed him to acknowledge that he had sexual relations” with the women, Marsigny said.”

    ………

    Too funny. Perhaps a guilty verdict will allow him to acknowledge his guilt.

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