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UK: Army launches investigation over meeting between soldiers and Tommy Robinson

Oct 10, 2018 11:19 am By Robert Spencer

“We are aware of a photograph and video of a group of Army personnel on social media and are investigating the circumstances surrounding this. Anyone who is in breach of the Army’s values and standards will face administrative action.”

So apparently the British Army’s values and standards now include appeasement and surrender to Islamization.

It is unfortunate to see the Washington Times, which should know better, referring to Tommy Robinson as a “far-right, anti-Muslim activist.” “Far-right” is a propaganda term that essentially means only “this is someone the establishment media wants you to dislike.” And it is no more “anti-Muslim” to oppose jihad mass murder and Sharia oppression of women, non-Muslims and others than it was “anti-German” to oppose the Nazis.

“British Army probing meeting between military personnel and Tommy Robinson, anti-Muslim activist,” by Andrew Blake, Washington Times, October 9, 2018:

The British Army has launched an investigation spurred by social media posts showing uniformed military personnel posing with Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a far-right anti-Muslim activist better known as Tommy Robinson.

“We are aware of a photograph and video of a group of Army personnel on social media and are investigating the circumstances surrounding this,” an Army spokesperson said Tuesday, British media reported. “Anyone who is in breach of the Army’s values and standards will face administrative action.”

The social media posts were shared through Mr. Robinson’s official accounts this week and showed him meeting several enthusiastic, smiling young men in uniform.

“A moment like this makes it all worth while,” Mr. Robinson captioned a video he shared on YouTube of the military personnel chanting him name.

“Britain’s heroes,” he captioned a similar post on Instagram….

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  1. StellaSaidSo says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Update from Tommy:

    • marblenecltr says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 4:10 pm

      The soldiers support the UK, the leaders do not; they support a very few socio- or psychopaths seeking tyranny over an earth culled of more than six billion. Prince Philip expressed a desire to become a virus to help that happen. When will your flag have a crescent and star superimposed over the crosses? Read chapters eight and nine of the Qur’an. When that writing is uttered, one hears hate speech.

      • Thomas Arthur(sultan) says

        Oct 11, 2018 at 3:57 am

        Listen I am banned in Facebook becoz I believe in freedom of speech. My father was in First World War and I love this country Very Much. I don’t blame Islam nor Muslims. It is our so-called and coward and gutless wicked policians are destroying this country. None of them got voice to stand against this evil and violent ideology name Islam which is against of mankind. But nothing is too late. Wake up and save this land.

      • J D S says

        Oct 11, 2018 at 9:55 am

        Oh there needs to be so many more “far-rightist” out there fighting against the onslaught of Islamist who are doing everything in their power to establish their stupid sharia law in the west. Many countries are just giving up without a fight.Now how stupid is that?????

        • jule says

          Oct 15, 2018 at 3:12 am

          Far right like nazigroups, white Supremacists, KKKlan will doom us to lose to Islam. They are too much like Islam with bigotry, segregation and Supersupremacist totalitarian governments. There is no way the majority of the world can or will support them. They will be the nail in our coffin.

    • Bret Worsfold says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 9:37 pm

      I’m sickened by seing what is happening in England. Please hang tough and help to save and restore your once great country. I believe Britians great potential is still there, but you will need MEN willing to take their country back. Sadly, I see the US traveling along the same path, but we’re at a cross-roads and the balance could tip either way. I for one am standing strong. I will never give in to Islamic or government tyranny.

    • carpediadem says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 2:10 am

      Stop the witch hunt against Tommy and this wicked absurdity will cease.

      Remind me again of the superiority of British culture, which has consorted with Islam for centuries?

      • jule says

        Oct 15, 2018 at 3:54 am

        This seems to be the problem. Brits have carried on this romantic view and need for oil for much much too long. They even say the Queen is related to Saudis (I guess so they will not be called racist, but equal) AND YET THEY HAVE NEVER READ THE QUR’AN in detail and perhaps know next to nothing about the construction and rules of a Gang. A Criminal Warlord Gang….much like the Italian Mafia.

  2. mortimer says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Britain is now a police state. Dissent of any kind is not allowed. Those going after this are in effect declaring that NO ONE in Briton may criticize the CRIMINALITY of MUSLIMS, no matter how vicious, bigoted or amoral the Muslims happen to behave. They are implying that FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION is dead if you make any comment about Muslims or about Islam.

    This is a return to a medieval mentality of witch hunting!

    • LB says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:34 am

      No kidding. It’s like watching the Iron Curtain being rebuilt in front of our very eyes.
      You’re not towing the party line? To the Gulag with you!

      • Bishop Guy Leven-Torres says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 11:40 am

        They have just crossed the line.

        • Gail Griffin says

          Oct 10, 2018 at 9:08 pm

          I think this may be the line that will make the true Bris rise up. The news articles all have muslims in high places telling the army how to think and what to do about this.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 9:57 pm

        I wonder what these soldiers are being threatened with?

        • trisha says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 4:17 am

          Expulsion from the military and the end of their chosen career. Drummed out of the force. Given the boot. You get the drift..

          To date, at least 2 of them have been kicked out by the UK army. Lion-hearted Tommy has guaranteed he will assist these kids financially and morally.

          The British military stand revealed as kowtowing to a complaint from the Islamic Council of Britain. The same organization in which at least one leader declared that British military personnel are legitimate targets for jihadis.

          The Islamic adviser to the UK military has jumped up screeching extremism, racism and Islamophobia, which must be rigorously disciplined. Bunch of kids, about 17 years old, accidentally run into a celebrity in a service station and jovially line up for selfies with him. Nobody’s business but their own if they support his political views.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 11:22 pm

          Just disgusting. Tommy Robinson is a true patriot and hero.

    • barbara fletcher says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:55 am

      beyond the beyond, what a mess Britain is in, always defending Muslims in this country? Religion should show that they have a love of the Creator no some dead prophet long gone back to the dust. Soon Armageddon will wipe out all false religion, including murderers abuse of women and children, plus animals, Religion will be gone.along with all that is evil on this beautiful earth, leaving ones who want peace and love of God, his Son and willing to be shown how to live the real life on a paradise earth. The Bible tells us that God cannot lie, so all will be fulfilled as stated

      • Wayne says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 10:07 pm

        You don’t get it. Who is their God who loves and demands the death of infidels or those who oppose it’s doctrine. Strike their heads off. Kill the unbelievers. Trick and lie to the unbelievers. In other words, Worship me or die. We’ve been kissed they don’t worship the same God they worship the fallen angel and they know it. About time people realise Islam were brought into the west for a specific purpose by our leaders.

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 11:05 pm

          @ eddie

          Indeed, as Christopher Hitchens observed, all religions are wrong in the same way, all the time, in that they privilege superstition over reason, but they are not all dangerous in the same way all the time. Hitchens had no doubt which religion is the most dangerous in today’s world.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 11:29 pm

          “eddie” does not care about this–he just hopes he can snow the Infidels into believing that all religions are the same.

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Oct 12, 2018 at 2:34 am

          @ gravenimage

          Apparently you missed the bit where eddie said ‘Islam is far more evil than Christianity’.

          Or perhaps you are you doing what you so often do on JW, ie deliberately misrepresenting the views of posters you don’t like.

    • utis says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 6:45 pm

      I’m not surprised by what you say about Britain. They’ve been repressing their own people for a couple of years now. But it’s the sentence, “Anyone who is in breach of the Army’s values and standards will face administrative action.” that sends a chill down my spine. It’s close to a statement by my own employers (corporate academe, not the military) right here in the U.S. heartland. The employees have to take a course (read indoctrination sermon) on repression and aggression at work. I read a sentence in my “course” very like the above. Good luck, America. When Trump is gone, we’re next.

      • Mac-101 says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 10:26 pm

        Exactly. Most major companies will fire you if they hear you complained about a Grown man with their junk swinging in your daughters or granddaughters shower room on YOUR OWN OFF TIME!

    • cc says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 9:17 pm

      And the freedom of expression of these young men? Is that not allowed?
      Is Tommy an traitor that you are forbidden to associate with or just a guy?

    • Leon Degney says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:56 pm

      I agree. From here it seems to be
      “ONWARD MUSLIM SOLDIERS”
      Fighting a jihad war
      Let us take their heads off
      See them rolling on the floor.
      The British authorities, and now it seems the military as well are hell-bent on giving the UK to Muslims.
      What a slap in the faces of the poor soldiers lying in their graves. It appears they have totally wasted their time and lives fighting for the freedoms the British citizens once enjoyed.

  3. John Stewart says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:34 am

    John Street
    ‏ @ljaway
    9m9 minutes ago

    Cowardly Police, cowardly army top brass,(aka Tommy Robinson,cowardly sky news and cowardly politicians UK Oct 2018!

    • Wayne says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 10:16 pm

      They arent cowardly. It’s a deliberate strategy. We are betrayed. Treason. Stop using language that gets them off the hook and call them out as the enemy they are before it’s too late

  4. StellaSaidSo says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:35 am

    And another from Tommy:

  5. Buraq says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:36 am

    Must watch! Tommy Robinson’s reaction to this bizarre investigation by the British Army top brass.

  6. Malcolm Jackson says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:38 am

    Comment by Vincent Ball:-

    It would be a good indication that Nigel Farage has already been bought by the Globalist Elites & is using the Brexit BS to smokescreen his real goal of Leading UKIP again & I’m quietly confident that the Patriots & UKIP Members can see through his Charade & will Vote for the Formidable & Honest Gerard Batten who voiced a long time ago his dismay at the treatment of Tommy Robinson & was the 1st Major Political Leader to Speak Out Openly about the Persecution of TR. Gerard gets my Vote Without Question & I hope everyone else will do so for the benefit of the Party & Britain.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212051570516958&set=p.10212051570516958&type=3&theater&ifg=1

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 12:02 pm

      Could be right. I always suspected that the buffoon Henry Bolton was manoeuvred into the leadership to keep the seat warm for Nigel.

    • Yokel says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 4:35 pm

      If Batten stays as UKIP leader, then I vote UKIP
      If Farage returns as leader without change to his present attitudes, then I don’t vote UKIP.
      Given Ms Treason Maybe as leader of the Tories, then they haven’t a chance of my vote!

  7. Bishop Guy Leven-Torres says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:38 am

    Sacking soldiers for chatting to Tommy. Not a good idea to piss off soldiers in the current political climate…Very dangerous indeed.It is almost as f the authorities want a civil war. What with May’s determination to keep us in the EU and the grooming scandal and now this….They must have a death-wish. Madness.

    History is littered with examples of over zealous politicians who failed to understand their situation. If they imprison of kill Tommy all hell will break loose. This is the straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back.

    • Yokel says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 4:38 pm

      Look at it from another perspective. This could well be the start of a purge of the armed forces to eliminate all the patriots, so that when the call comes for them to turn on British patriots the forces will remain loyal to the government and not the British people. After all they are trying to bribe those cashiered for drugs offences to return!

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 10:02 pm

        Chilling possibility.

      • Mac-101 says

        Oct 10, 2018 at 10:29 pm

        You unfortunately most likely correct. In the US Military ALL the Patriotic field grade officers were removed by Obama!

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Oct 12, 2018 at 2:42 am

      @ Bishop

      Yes, civil war is what ‘the authorities’ want. If they provoke enough chaos and bloodshed, they will intervene to ‘solve the problem’ by imposing martial law. Then it’s goodbye freedom and democracy (what’s left of it), hello New World Order.

  8. Guy Forester says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    Interesting to note that I have not heard any thing out of the likes of May or Corbin regarding the following:

    1. The plight of Asia Bibi in Pakistan.
    2. No mention of the soldier beheaded in broad daylight on a public street by self proclaimed jihadists.

    But, you cannot associate with anyone that opposes the grooming clubs, stabbing and drive over attacks, or such atrocities as at Manchester.

  9. FYI says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    The British Army,like its police, has gone all PC.

    I’m still laughing at those recruitment ads to encourage muslims(!)to Join.
    What about all other religions?Well,they don’t have a political agenda to rule over mankind{Dar al harb}
    Give the muslims an inch and they will steal a mile:the establishment seems to think that pandering to muslims will somehow prevent them from doing the evil things the koran sanctions and we’ll all just get along.

    “Hey STOP ..STOP the battle!…..abdullah needs to say his “prayers” to his god..you know the one that curses Jews and Christians in koran 9:30 and calls for the mass- murder of non-muslims…..go ahead abdullah…we can wait..
    guys guys…put the bacon sandwichs away…be the supersensitive snowflakes the politicians want you to be……..we don’t want a repeat of last week’s episode do we when Corporal Faisal hacked Major Carruthers to death for that cartoon which in fact wasn’t islam’s “prophet” but a scene from ALLADIN….but hey,that’s all in the past now and we are not “islamophobes” are we?”

  10. Malcolm Jackson says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    OUTRAGEOUS: Young soldier discharged from the British Army for taking a photo with me
    Inbox
    x

    Tommy Robinson via mail91.suw15.mcsv.net
    17:21 (10 minutes ago)
    to me

    Dear Malcolm,

    A few days ago, I stopped at a service station where four coaches full of British soldiers were taking a break. I said hello to the lads and some of them posed for “selfies” with me.

    It was my great honour to stand with our troops and shake their hands, even just for a few moments.

    But when the Muslim Council of the UK heard about this, they immediately demanded that the Army punish these soldiers — and to their shame, the Army did.

    These lads had their cell phones seized and inspected for “illegal” photos of me. And the Armed Forces’ official Islamic advisor, Asim Hafiz, condemned these men — before the investigation was even complete — telling reporters that “any form of racism, discrimination or extremism is taken extremely seriously and will be dealt with accordingly”.

    What racism? What discrimination?

    It was just a photo. These are proud British soldiers.

    And now I have heard that at least one of these lads has been summarily discharged from the Army — just for standing next to me and smiling.

    That’s outrageous. That cannot stand.

    These lads are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms. The least we can do is stand up for their freedom, too.

    I’m going to go down to the Ministry of Defence and hand-deliver a petition to the Chief of the Defence Staff, General Sir Nick Carter, demanding that this political witch-hunt be called off.

    I started the petition last night, and it already has more than 70,000 names on it. Please take a moment to add your name to it, too — I’d like to have over 100,000 signatures on it by tomorrow.

    Please click here, or visit http://www.StandWithOurLads.com — and forward this e-mail to your friends and family.

    These soldiers would do anything for us. Please take a minute to do something small for them.

    Yours truly,

    Tommy Robinson

    P.S. The British Army is being undermined by political correctness — but this is the worst I’ve seen. They’ve handed over decision-making to the Muslim Council. That can’t stand. Please sign the petition here, and type http://www.StandWithOurLads.com as your Facebook status!

    P.P.S. So many people have inundated that website, it might take a minute to get through — but please keep trying. Thank you!

    • Jayell says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 2:51 pm

      “But when the Muslim Council of the UK heard about this, they immediately demanded that the Army punish these soldiers — and to their shame, the Army did….”

      Right, so exactly when did a totally undemocratic and irrelevant and totally unrepresentative gaggle of self-appointed imported geriactric fossilised alien bigots legally presume any right whatsoever to dictate what or what was not acceptable civil behaviour for the British army? Answer – never, or so we have been assuming. So what the hell do the army authorities think they’re playing at? And why does the army have a ‘Muslim Advisor’ when muslims are likely to be at most 4-5% of the population and the forces? Did it ever have a ‘Jewish Advisor’ (or Jewish friends have been on the scene a lot, lot longer)? Or a ‘Sikh Advisor’? Or a ‘Hindu Advisor’? Or a Buddhist Advisor’? Or a Taoist advisor? If so, how often, if at all, did any of these ‘advisors’ presume any right to pontificate on any area of official Army policy? Could someone with some knowledge let everyone know? Because I think quite a few people in the UK would like to know who exactly is calling the shots in this place these days, bearing in mind we’re still all under the impression it’s supposed to be a Parliamentary Democracy at the behest of the British electorate! Or has someone changed the constitution?

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:13 pm

      Thanks for the additional information, Malcolm. *Terrible*.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 4:37 am

      Thank you, Malcolm Jackson, for the link to http://www.StandWithOurLads.com

      That page, unfortunately, although it urges the reader to sign the petition, does not appear to have a facility for doing so. There only is a button for “Remove signature”.

      Help needed.

  11. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 1:04 pm

    “Anyone who is in breach of the Army’s values and standards will face administrative action.”

    Okay. So where do we find a complete list of the British Army’s values and standards? Is it on a website somewhere? How many pages long is this list of values and standards? Some of my favorite Quran passages are 9:5 and 47:4. Are they compliant with the Army’s values and standards, or contrary to them?

  12. Berengaria says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    Isn’t the British Military late to the game of submission to
    islam?
    In Fort Hood, Texas, USA, during the Reign of Obama, a Muslim Major murdered numerous American unarmed Soldiers on their own Post.
    As the caskets of the Dead were in front of the Brass, one American General, Kelly, by name, I believe, proclaimed that he hoped that this incident would Not Interfere with the Military’s “MUSLIM OUTREACH PROGRAM”.
    The “General” later RETIRED, after his Moment of Truth!
    So the Brits will have to Hurry to catch up with the “MUSLIM OUTREACH PROGRAM”, Here!

    • Steve in Missouri, USA says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:41 pm

      I don’t think the military ever recognized that incident as terrorism. They called it “work place violence”.
      It made a difference to the victims and to survivors, if they would receive compensation for military related violence, such as terrorism, or just work place violence, not considered apparently to be at the same level of compensation.
      I think in 2011, representative John Carter introduced legislation that would change the designation to combat related, making the victims eligible to receive full benefits and the Purple Heart, a medal for those wounded in military conflict.
      In retrospect, authorities, including military authorities were aware of communications with people advocating terrorism in the middle East. In retrospect, probably if people had been alert, the mass shooting could have been avoided.

  13. garbut says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Tommy Robinson is a hero…..And the rank and file of the Armed Services are more than qualified to recognise a hero when they see one.
    Nuff said.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 11:19 pm

      +1

  14. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    First, the Muslim infiltration and insidious growing power of Islam in the Westerns countries may be seen in that the government of the United Kingdom is having an investigation of the meeting between the British patriot Tommy Roberson and the patriots who the British soldiers of England . This investigation not only serves as an example Muslim subversion and infiltration into the UK but foolishness and folly of some politicians comply with Muslims. A real, genuine, UK investigation be done to those many subversive Islamic organization of the nation.
    Second , we should not forget that awful , terrible treatment Tommy Robinson received for speaking out the truth about dangerous and subversive powers of Islam in England and other Western nations is shameful. That Mr. Robinson was treated in such terrible ways and this British court ruling only prove the point that many zealous Muslims, by hook or by crook, are making gains in the West for Islam.
    This is what is known as the Stealth jihad otherwise called the Muslim method of Islamic Gradualism. In contrast to the way of the violent jihad or also called the militant jihad .This non-violent form of the jihad for Islam is a very sly, insidious, subtle and deceptive way of working for the advancement of Islam.
    This Muslim scheme for achieving the goal of the Islamic agenda is as, many times, as subtly effective as it is demonically clever. Furthermore, this Islamic gradualism, in some ways, is very similar to the instruction printed in the book entitled THE ART OF WAR by Sun Tzu. Which reads “At first, then, exhibit the coyness of a maiden, until the enemy gives you an opening; afterwards emulate the rapidity of a running hare, and it will be too late for the enemy to opposes you”

    • Lodesman says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 9:05 am

      Thanks for the best explanation of the Muslim methods and intentions that I have read. If only the establishment would stop looking down on the working class and observe reality they would act to save themselves as well as ‘the lower orders’.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 11:33 pm

      Good post, Walter.

  15. PRCS says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    The reason for the “investigation” is–probably–:

    Military personnel may participate in political/social events–though not in uniform<–as doing so infers the military's endorsement of that event/situation/person (even if not the intent).

    I said probably.

  16. Ewanda says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    What a wonderful assemblage of young men who are trusting that their government will direct them in honesty to do the right thing and protect their loved ones from the barbarians coming through the one-way turnstile at the British border. Too sad for them. They are all smiling because they believe in the truths that they are standing for.

  17. Krishna says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    He just took simple photo with few army cadets
    But British leftist are paranoid that he would spread his so called far right views to entire British army

  18. Warmac9999 says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    The leadership of the UK is not unlike the leadership of any socialist country. They are driven by the fear that the suppressed populace will rise up like in the French Revolution and slaughter them in mass. They depend on the military and police to keep anarchy from spreading. This photo of the grunts with TR is their greatest fear because it demonstrates a very high level of discontent that must be stomped out. This is not unlike Hillary the Traitor talking about civility and demanding that the left take power for civility to return.

    • Yokel says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 4:49 pm

      “The leadership of the UK is not unlike the leadership of any socialist country.”
      And the present leadership is as far to the “right” as any of the “mainstream” parties is likely to get. Heaven help us if we land up with the communists of Labour in charge. In that situation, all we have seen to date will have been a children’s tea party!

  19. nicholas tesdorf says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    Frontline British Soldiers unlike the British politicians, really do know what is going on with Muslims. Many have had first-hand experience of the Umma.

  20. gravenimage says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    UK: Army launches investigation over meeting between soldiers and Tommy Robinson

    So apparently the British Army’s values and standards now include appeasement and surrender to Islamization.
    ……………………..

    Yes–including taking issue with Muslims murdering British soldiers like Lee Rigby in the streets.

    Just sickening. I hope these patriotic soldiers stand tough.

    • PRCS says

      Oct 10, 2018 at 10:39 pm

      As Western militaries are non-partisan government agencies, its members are not supposed to participate in activities or events–while in uniform–which could give the impression of bias (either for or against) by such agencies toward an event, the opinions and political positions of individuals, etc

      The NCOIC should have directed the troops to not do that, and to politely explain to Tommy why they shouldn’t.

      And, no, I’m not defending the “aggrieved” Muslims.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 11, 2018 at 12:06 am

        PRCS, that opposing Jihad is now considered “partisan” in the UK is in itself deeply disturbing.

        • PRCS says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 12:32 am

          Private citizens and military personnel–not in uniform–can oppose “jihad”.

          Relevant military rules and regulations are intended to prohibit creating the impression of favoritism; of bias.

          Same with U.S. military: no participation in political rallies/events–in uniform.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 11:36 pm

          PRCS, Tommy Robinson is not a politician. I’m not sure how appearing with him in a photo can be considered partisan.

      • Leon Degney says

        Oct 11, 2018 at 12:34 am

        How would it be different if they had taken a photo with Theresa May? Would there have been a similar uproar, seeing as she is a Muslim sympathiser?

        • Leon Degney says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 12:36 am

          Was this photo shoot a “political event?”

      • Michael Copeland says

        Oct 11, 2018 at 4:50 am

        The rules are valid.
        It needs to be pointed out, though, that Tommy Robinson has always been a staunch supporter of British troops, defending them against Islamic opposition at home.
        Tommy is also not a politician: he is a journalist.

        • PRCS says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 11:52 am

          Robinson, an activist-cum-journalist, has expressed views very much at odds with those of the British Government–to whom the troops have pledged their allegiance–and that government is at odds with him.

          Their obvious affection for him, and his for them, unintentionally placed them at odds with that government and gave “the Muslim community” another reason to complain.

        • Yokel says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 12:13 pm

          No, the British armed forces pledge their allegiance to the Crown (at present Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second). The government are her ministers. Therefore the government are NOT the armed forces boss.

          One of the reasons that the British Government is so keen to sign up to an EU Army is to destroy the allegiance to the Crown, and instead to make the armed forces subservient to the politicians as you describe.

          The same applies to the sworn Police officers. Their loyalty is to the Crown. That is why the powers that be introduced PCSOs (Police and Community Support Officers) at a lower rate of pay, with reduced powers, and most importantly without swearing any oath to the Crown. No wonder there are now more of them (it seems) than proper Police Constables.

        • PRCS says

          Oct 11, 2018 at 3:11 pm

          Yes, yes. Thank you for the correction, Yokel.

          We have a different definition of government here in the colonies!

          A rose by any other name.

  21. Steve in Missouri, USA says

    Oct 10, 2018 at 11:25 pm

    British solders and airmen have been advised not to wear their uniforms to work, or off base, following a second abduction attempt in 2016 of an airman.
    That following the murder of Lee Rigby in 2013 by two muslims of Nigerian descent who had been raised Christian but converted to Islam. Adebolajo and Adebowale ran him down with a car, then used knives and a cleaver to stab and hack him to death. Lee Rigby was wearing his uniform in Southeast London, walking down Wellington Street. He had been in Afghanistan, Germany, and was near the Royal artillery barracks.
    Adebolajo and adebowale dragged his body into the road and then told passersby that they had killed him to avenge muslims being killed. Police were called and unarmed police arrived nine minutes later and then armed police five minutes later. I think there was a gunfight and the murders were wounded and taken to separate hospitals. They later were convicted and I think sentenced to life imprisonment.
    So I’m surprised and saddened by this picture, which was evidently not taken on a military post, since it is dangerous for uniformed military personnel to even wear their uniforms off post.
    It appears the military personnel in the picture are at danger from armed terrorists when off of military posts, in danger of being murdered or abducted, and from reading the story, also are facing some kind of disciplinary action or are under investigation by the “Army” for meeting or associating with Tommy
    Robinson.
    Sam Brownback, the US Ambassador for religious freedom lobbied the British Ambassador to the United States, Sir Kim Darroch, on Tommy Robinson’s behalf after he was jailed, for live streaming I think outside the courthouse in Leeds involving the trial of Muslim men who were on trial for “grooming” young girls and women to be subjected to sexual abuse.
    This in the overall context of 700 women and girls being abused by grooming gangs around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims.
    There was a Rotherham scandal, with young women abused from the late 1980’s to 2010 when authorities failed, perhaps refused is a better term, to act on reports of abuse through most of that period.
    There was also a Rothdale child abuse scandal, carried out by a sex abuse ring.
    The Newcastle sex abuse scandal.
    The headlines, worst ever, Telford, about 150 miles SE of London, up to a thousand girls, as young as eleven, raped, sold for sex, even killed, over a period of 40 years by a gang or gangs of abusers.
    These scandals appear unfortunately, not to be isolated sex abuse of children by perverted individuals, but seem to be more systemic, a problem brought on by multiculturalism, and the laws that Parliament has passed making it against the law to criticize Islam.
    The issues with Tommy Robinson are that he violated a law, but in an attempt to expose a widespread horrible event, the systemic abuse of children and young women by organized gangs, which the British authorities refused to acknowledge as abuse, or being wrong. This is all frightening and appears to be a rot in the British social services which have been in place to protect children, but seem to have failed miserably, and now the punishments of Tommy Robinson seem to be part of a massive “coverup”.

    • Yokel says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 12:19 pm

      We shall see whether Tommy Robinson actually violated any law when his case comes up at the Old Bailey again on 23 October. In the meantime I will continue to consider that the powers that be are using “due process” as the punishment for a “crime” that usually merits harsh words from a judge, or at worst a few thousand pounds fine.

      [By the way Telford is to the North East of London]

  22. kouldb says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 1:37 am

    All because the British Islamic council called this racism & extremism. The entire British parliament & every politician. From all sides. Deserve to be blown up for their treason. And they will be. By their Muslim friends. And I for one. Cannot wait.

  23. Baucent says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 3:09 am

    The Generals should be worried. Tommy is more popular with the troops than they are. In fact the Army always had a pro EDL core. He’s from their class, he talks their language. If the Generals ever call the troops onto the streets against the citizens, they will remember that.

    And Robert’s definition of “Far Right” …” “this is someone the establishment media wants you to dislike.” is completely correct.

  24. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 6:32 am

    Re: “And it is no more “anti-Muslim” to oppose jihad mass murder and Sharia oppression of women, non-Muslims and others than it was “anti-German” to oppose the Nazis.”

    Here we go again!

    Your statement is duplicitous; here’s the real comparison:

    “And it is no more “anti-Muslim” to oppose jihad mass murder and Sharia oppression of women, non-Muslims and others than it was “anti-Nazi” to oppose the Nazis.”

    There! Fixed it for ya, Robert!

    😉

    • PRCS says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 11:58 am

      Good point!

    • Jean says

      Oct 12, 2018 at 5:52 am

      Uncle Vladdi.

      Incidentally, they have lifted this expression from the Soviet Union, where any criticism of the government or its ideology was labelled “anti-communist”. This label in itself was sufficient to pronounce a death sentence. The accusation was so wide and rubbery that any words pronounced, or any silences maintained, by the victim in the dock could be twisted into ‘proof’ of it. All that we see now has been seen before.

  25. Dan says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 7:32 am

    Julie,

    It was democrats who started and supported the KKK, right after Lincoln freed the slaves.

    After the Civil War, Democrats were lynching so many blacks the NRA was formed to TEACH African Americans how to handle fire arms to protect themselves.

    Democrat Byrd was even a grand wizard in the KKK

    Democrats arrested MLK, opposed Civil Rights Legislation, and fought against Black Americans right to vote.

    Democrats created the JIm Crow laws and enforced them.

    And Nazis stands for National Socialists, FAR LEFT.

    The only difference between Nazis and Communists, is that Nazis were for German domination of the world, where Communists didn’t care WHAT race, creed, or atheist you were, as long as you were for Communism ruling the world.

    Get YOUR facts straight.

    • jule says

      Oct 12, 2018 at 2:53 am

      No it was not. There were Northern abolitionst Dems, the Democratic Republicans, the ‘Know nothing party’ Southern Plantation Dems who became the Confederate South. Ask any Dem if they agree with a Hitler or Kkklan or White Supremacist. Those are Racist. Hitler was known for genocide, bigotry, segregation and any group with anything to do with those will cause the world to call Anti-Islamists to get squashed. Islam is the same as Nazigroups, KKKlan, White Supremacist and all bigots/racists and everyone knows it….Just like anyone who reads the Qur’an sees they are just like those bigoted groups and it Ruins everything. those groups are the reason people get banned or called a hate group because Nazitypes, Islam, KKKLan and White Supremacists ARE. All core the same. Supremacist & bigoted. Thats Why Tommy gets called far right hate group because OF the Nazitypes, Supremacist types. Why is this so hard to understand? This is like trying to explain Islam/Qur’an to Antifa. Complete illogical block that will ruin all effort to explain to the Left. They know nazifarright, KKKlan, Supremacists are nothing USA wants and never should have allowed But they cannot see yet how Islam is just like them in Core beliefs of Supremacy, segregation, Bigotry ETC.

      • Wayne says

        Oct 15, 2018 at 3:16 am

        You talk garbage. Anyone who stands up against anything that the globalists do is labelled with those terms. They are fake accusations. Grow up!

        • jule says

          Oct 15, 2018 at 3:44 am

          completely authentic. Look up the Confederates. Look up the Dems of the north. look up the DemocraticRepublicans before they split. No parties of yesteryear are like any parties of today. The only thin slightly the same is Repubs are for big business and Dems traditionally were for ag, small business and the public of ordinary people. The NEO Dems followed big Tech right into the deadly path of Big business and taking over other countries…which is what Repubs used to be famous for.

      • Wayne says

        Oct 15, 2018 at 3:20 am

        Funny thing is those calling everyone racists and Nazi’s are racists and Nazi’s. And I’m not being facetious. We must ignore and not be bothered by labels which are untrue

        • jule says

          Oct 15, 2018 at 3:46 am

          not if you want to win our freedom

  26. seabird says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 8:51 am

    That photo with the troops is a grave “threat” to the Govt. and the Monarchy (which is leading the charge of persecution/prosecution against Robinson).
    Brexit will not solve the country’s immigration problems.
    This level of arrogance, stupidity (and treason) can only be resolved by the abrogation of the Monarchy-and it needs to be done soon before the doofus Charles takes power, completely destroying the Country.

  27. Ciaran Goggins says

    Oct 11, 2018 at 1:55 pm

    I do not support Mr Robinson’s Islamophobia but I do support his right to free speech, which has been eroded. Rumours of a court martial are asinine, it takes ages, weeks. not hours.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 11, 2018 at 11:40 pm

      How is opposing Muslims beheading soldiers in the streets of London “Islamophobic”–unless you think that we should respect Muslims doing such things in the name of their faith?

  28. jule says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 2:35 am

    I agree. There may be some very nice Muslims who stay very quiet, but because of Islam and the Qur’an it is a very BAD movement. And it is preached all over the world and Mosques are a mask. It is very much like the gangs of Chicago, LA, or South America. Its a Gang and just because they SAY they are a Religion of Abraham to carry out the old Warlord Strategy does not make them a nice or peaceful Religion that we have to tolerate.
    When even our President visited, what did they do? A WAR DANCE. Laughing at us all the way. Too bad CapitalismToday, the Globalist style runs very much like them. This has to stop. Such a Shame the left cannot see how and why Corporate wants us all to Globalize and how it will hurt us. They protested NAFTA and WTO. Can’t they remember? And such a shame nazitypes, Supremacists, KKKlan etc are in this to ruin things giving people Fact to the racist, bigoted hate Jews and blacks Claim. Of COURSE THEY WILL GET NO WHERE but be an obstacle to USA Freedom (which does not mean ok to persecute, call for segregation or genocide with Supremacy of some fascist group. That is what Islam does. That is what nazitroops do, that is what KKKLan does, & today, that is what antifa does. Its like everyone has lost their minds. Why is it so hard to understand?) I feel desperate from the illogical nonsense I hear every day.

  29. Hector Archytas says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 6:20 am

    Those soldeer should better get a very young wife, got fired, stayed on welfare and benefit in a council flat and produce a huge lot of children !!!!

    Ii is the best way to save Europe.

  30. Hal says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 7:03 am

    “Britain’s heroes” indeed! But Tommy Robinson is as heroic as any! This picture does the heart good!

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