How wonderful and broad-minded! When is the mosque going to feature a Christian priest delivering the Friday khutba?
“He will no doubt be preaching about love, peace, reconciliation and tolerance, all of which would be laudable topics for an inter-faith lecture or post-worship meditation.”
Probably. But here are some Qur’an passages that he could preach upon, which his Christian audience might find of particular interest:
Jesus is not the Son of God and belief in the Trinity is “excess”: “O People of the Book! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter anything concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and his word which he conveyed to Mary, and a spirit from him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and do not say ‘Three.’ Cease! It is better for you! Allah is only One Allah. It is far removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171
And: “It is not befitting to Allah that he should beget a son. Glory be to him! When He determines a matter, he only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35
Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they did not kill him or crucify him, but it appeared so to them; and those who disagree concerning it are in doubt about it; they have no knowledge of it except pursuit of a conjecture; they did not kill him for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
Those who believe in the divinity of Christ are unbelievers: “They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” — Qur’an 5:17 (cf. 5:72)
Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call Ezra a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
Christians who do not accepted Muhammad and the Qur’an are the most vile of created beings: “Nor did those who were given the Scripture become divided until after there had come to them clear evidence. And they were not commanded except to worship Allah, sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the most vile of created beings.” — Qur’an 98:6
Muslims must fight against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden what has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
Also, a hadith has Muhammad predicting that Jesus will return at the end of the world and break the cross, as it is an insult to Allah’s power to say that he would have allowed one of his prophets to be crucified:
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, son of Mary [Jesus] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims] as a just ruler and will break the Cross and kill the pig and abolish the Jizya [a tax taken from the non-Muslims, who are in the protection, of the Muslim government]. Then there will be abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts. (Bukhari 3.34.425)
Muslims have sometimes taken this to mean not just that crosses will be destroyed in the end times, but that they should be now. In Spain in 2015, Muslims broke into a church, spray-painted “Allah” on wall, and destroyed the crucifix. In Pakistan in 2014, Muslims destroyed a church that was under construction, and desecrated the cross. When the Islamic State occupied Mosul, it made destruction of all crosses in the city a top priority.
And here’s my favorite New Testament verse, this time referring to the Diocese of Oxford: “Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Church defends invitation to Imam to deliver Eucharist sermon,” by Marcus Jones, Premier, October 20, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The Diocese of Oxford is defending its invitation to a Muslim scholar to preach at a eucharist service.
After receiving criticism ahead of Sunday’s event, church leaders said inter faith champion Monawar Hussain will speak after the service at St Mary’s has finished.
The original advert suggested he would deliver the sermon during the service.
The invitation had received criticism from some online.
Writing on the Anglican blog Archbishop Cramner, Adrian Hilton said: “He will no doubt be preaching about love, peace, reconciliation and tolerance, all of which would be laudable topics for an inter-faith lecture or post-worship meditation.
“But by inviting an imam to preach not just a sermon, but a Eucharistic sermon, it is hard to understand how this glorifies the crucified Son of God; how it honours those martyrs who died renouncing theological error and deception; and how it respects a sacred act of divine worship which is supposed to be conducted according to the rites and formularies of the Church of England.”
In response a spokesperson for the Diocese of Oxford said: “Monawar Hussain MBE DL will deliver the University Sermon following the Eucharist at St Mary’s this Sunday. He is most welcome….
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s good that he’s speaking at the end of the service ……. so everyone will be able to leave without missing anything important.
WPM says
If it was my church I would leave before the services and make my feeling heard by a personal conversation with the pastor of what a traitor he is to Christianity.
Sons of Liberty says
I would not only leave but I would no longer be a member of that church !
Larry says
I would tell him he’s full of shit, then leave the church.
Bee says
I personally left some time ago because of these kinds of actions and other aspects of the C of E which has moved so very far away from the church that I once knew. It is so very sad.
wm1 says
Lord, deliver us from these apostate, heretical blind guides in our pulpits masquerading as priests and pastors when they’re, really, ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing!’
Joss says
Agreed – would the pastor know that according to the koran, he’d turned his church into a mosque? Would it trouble him, since he’s so ‘broadminded’?!
gravenimage says
Important point, Joss.
Charles says
WPM, Why be surprised?
Remember that this sect was founded -in order to have his serial divorces kosherized- by serial murderer English despot Henry Number Eight in the sixteenth century.
That way, he thought, he would get rid of that nasty papa in Rome.
gravenimage says
Whatever its origins, there are a lot of decent Anglicans. They aren’t all like this dhimmi.
Clive Stephen Delmonte says
The nightmare does not just go on, it gets worse and worse.
Godlessgirl says
CogitoErgoSum your name is Latin for “I think therefore I am” <I don't understand this inference. If "I" is already in the beginning of the inference then it seems like some kind of begging the question.
Plus I don't understand what the argument for the existence of thoughts entails that a soul or agent or self must exist. What is the self? What is I? Maybe there are just merely thoughts and the self is an illusion.
What is the self with no thoughts and experience?
CogitoErgoSum says
If you didn’t exist would you be able to think you didn’t exist or would someone else be thinking that you are an imaginary person who didn’t exist but who thought she did exist? In other words …. maybe you just thought me up and I don’t really exist …….. or maybe I just thought you up and you don’t really exist. Try thinking about it some more.
gravenimage says
Godlessgirl, here is more on René Descartes’ meaning of the term:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito,_ergo_sum
J D S says
Before the service, After service??What a quandary!
All ministers, Priest, Rabbis, whatever..should be preaching against Islam with every breath in their body..Not inviting Satan into their midst. Jesus is shedding tears because of what has happened to his church and NOT just because of is lam either.
wm1 says
Couldn’t agree with you more! Excellent post!
Jay says
England is lost! PM Churchill is not resting easy today!! God save the queen!
The USA and allies will not be able to save England again
This is complete insanity on parade!!
God bless America ?????????
Hugh Fitzgerald says
The Queen has not spoken, not even hinted, about the beliefs, and observable behavior of Muslims. Not a word about Rotherham or Rochdale. Nothing about the shameful behavior of the police in not taking action much sooner. Nothing about what has happened to free speech at Speakers’ Corner. Nothing about the attempt to shut down intelligent Islamocriticism, dismisingit as “islamophobia.”Is she really unaware of what is going on in her realm? Or afraid to speak out about it? She needs to address those who look to her for guidance. And she should try to live to the age of 106, in order to delay the ascent to the throne of her islamophilic,son.
gravenimage says
This is the closest the Queen has come to addressing any of this–and it is pretty weak tea:
“Queen’s Christmas message includes horrors of jihad terror attacks in London and Manchester”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/queens-christmas-message-includes-horrors-of-jihad-terror-attacks-in-london-and-manchester
mortimer says
The Queen will speak to influential people in private, but not publicly. She does not engage in politics traditionally. Whoever is behind this will not receive her royal favour.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the King spoke out over the threat of the Nazis. Surely the Queen should do the same over the threat of Islam?
This isn’t like the Queen playing partisan politics.
Peter says
The British Monarch is a Bird in a Gilded Cage. Americans think that King George III was a tyrant, when in reality he was a powerless head of state. British monarchs are bound by political conventions derived from the Magna Carta, the Act of Settlement and the decisions of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. If the Queen was ever to express a political opinion of her own it would be the end of the monarchy in Britain. You need to cut her some slack. She has done everything in her power to be an exemplar to her people during her sixty six year rein.
Wellington says
With respect, Peter, I don’t need to cut the Queen some slack. Under her tenure as monarch the UK has gone from a free nation to an essentially unfree one. Muslim immigration is in the process of ruining Britain, possibly forever. Political correctness is rampant and destructive. By now, the Queen should have risked everything, including the Crown, because her nation is profoundly sick, perhaps dying.
As I have written before here at JW, when LBJ was told by an aide that he couldn’t put the Presidency on the line, he replied, “What the hell good is the Presidency if you can’t put it on the line from time to time?” Ditto for the British Crown. Indeed, Britain could use a constitutional crisis since nothing else appears to be working to prevent the transformation of the UK into something far less than it used to be. Besides, and Baghehot, Stubbs, et al. aside, and as mentioned by Paul Johnson in his wonderful work, The History of the English People (originally published as The Offshore Islanders), Queen Victoria must have been secretly delighted when reading what she was not supposed to do because she often did it anyway. By now, the present Queen should have spoken up as the Danish Queen has (who is also bound by essentially the same constitutional restrictions that the British monarch is). For God’s sake, the UK is in crisis, so be damned with the constitutional “restrictions.” And if the Queen did speak up publicly about what has happened to her nation, just think of all in the UK who would support her. Oh yeah, time for a constitutional crisis. Long overdue.
On the specific matter of George III, I disagree that he was powerless. Pretty much from the beginning of hes reign he tried to influence events by having the Earl of Bute, his close friend, made Prime Minister (not an official title of course until the earl 20th century). Then there was the entire matter of the “King’s Friends” who were supposed to work with the King and be above politics. With a Prime Minister like Lord North, George III almost pulled this off. George III also stuck by Pitt the Younger not long after he became PM at the age of 24 when he received a vote of no confidence and yet remained in office with the King’s support. Other examples could be given showing that George III was not just a figurehead monarch (e.g., forcing the resignation of Pitt the Younger in 1801 over the matter of Irish emancipation).
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington.
Peggy says
I really can’t say how much power the Queen actually has in Britain but our GG (Governor General) in Australia who is basically Queen’s representative can sack the Prime Minister and he did sack the Whitlam government back in the 70s.
So if the government isn’t serving the country and people can’t the Queen do the same?
If her representative in Australia can, why has she less power?
Yes, the opposite can happen and the PM can remove the GG too but I can’t imagine people taking that on the chin in Britain. I really don’t believe that monarchy would cease to exist if the Queen who is the defender of Church of England speaks up about this very church submitting to Islam. Isn’t that her duty?
Besides, like Wellington said she would be even more protected by the people if she got involved.
FYI says
Idiotic C of E dhimmiwit Christians with their “Eucharist” and interfaith nonsense.
Don’t they know?Or isn’t it more likely that they don’t want to know?
“There are none so blind as those who refuse to see”
allah CURSES Christians koran 9:30
allah DENIES Christ was even crucified koran 4:157
allah MISUNDERSTANDS the Trinity completely koran 4:171
{This is ludicrous since allah claims he wrote the Gospel k3:3 ….which he confirms as being true…wherein the Theology of the Trinity is explained}
allah claims he gave the Gospel to Jesus koran 5 v 46
{But..The Gospel was not written by God…and it came into existence AFTER Christ!there was no written Gospel to give at the time of Christ…}
And note allah’s REJECTION of that 2nd chief commandment:-
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends”
koran 5 v 51
Remember that one when you are listening to a muslim at your church..
allah missed those essential two chief commandments.
Thanks to these dhimmiwit Christians like the Diocese of oxford and a pro-islam “pope” in Rome,the Taqqiya merchants are having a great time playing them for the fools they are.
mortimer says
Excellent list from FYI … Mohammed claimed that his Koran CONFIRMED the Gospel, whereas in reality the Koran CONTRADICTS, DISTORTS and RUBBISHES almost every teaching in the four Gospels.
The clergy of Oxford should be aware that when Muslims prayer in the temple of another religion, that temple automatically becomes a MOSQUE in the eyes of Muslims and they believe they have a right to take it over.
The bishop of Oxford needs to start LEADING THE DIOCESE and prohibiting HERESY from the pulpits. I don’t want to go to church and hear the DISTORTIONS, GOBBELDEGOOK and ABSURDITIES of the Koran all mixed with LARGE DOSES OF TAQIYYA.
No doubt the bishop and dean of Oxford have never heard the word TAQIYYA.
I will help them with the following:
There are SIX DIFFERENT WAYS of deception that are permissible in Islam:
1•Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam.
2•Kitman: deceit by omission.
3•Tawriya: deceit by deliberate ambiguity.
4•Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not observing all the tenets of Sharia by ‘making things easier’).
5•Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden such as drinking alcohol to exploit non-Muslims).
6•Muruna: ‘flexibility’ or temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear ‘moderate’ and blend in until Muslims are numerically strong enough to enforce Sharia.
Muslims imitate Allah ‘THE BEST OF DECEIVERS’.
Allahu khayru l-makireena – Koran. 3:54; cf. 8:30
– “Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – a former sheikh Sam Solomon
Walter Sieruk says
This error, ignorance and foolish is awful. For there are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” priests and pastors, who don’t really obey the instruction of the Bible against such folly, as in Ephesians 5:11.II Timothy 3:16. Those “Christian” clerics have even made the outlandish claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
There is the Christian internet site which replies the many different claims made by the imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam. It’s http://www.answering-islam.org
OP says
China’s Muslim vocational training camps…
The Uighur were devout Buddhists until they were forcefully converted to Islam in the 8th. century. Those who resisted were slaughtered ruthlessly by the millions, even women and children. There were thousands of Buddhist monasteries in Xinjiang that were razed to the ground by the sword of Islam, and tens of thousands of Buddhists monks were butchered like cattle with gruesome beheadings in the name of the greatest scourge in history, Islam. At least the Chinese are not beheading them, only re-educating them. For historical justice to be served they should all be forcefully converted to Buddhism which is their true heritage, and the religion of their ancestors, so cruelty taken away from them by the evil of Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8aB818iqoM
Renate says
This is what makes me think that Christians are their own worst enemies.
I know Jesus said you’re supposed to turn the other cheek if someone strikes you, but I didn’t find anything where He said to voluntarily invite someone to strike you in the first place.
Elisha says
“No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.” – Matthew 6:24
This is the ultimate test for Christians, as the love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10). Money is their motivation. They preach dead works because they are proud, therefore God gives them over to evil (2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 is VERY important).
Bottom line for EVERYONE from His mouth:
“The time is fulfilled,” He said, “and the kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe in the gospel!” – Mark 1:15
Be prepared for unseen circumstances – murder, accidents, etc
Now on the same occasion there were some present who reported to Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. And Jesus said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were greater sinners than all other Galileans because they suffered this fate? I tell you, no, but UNLESS YOU REPENT, YOU WILL ALL likewise PERISH. Or do you suppose that those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them were worse culprits than all the men who live in Jerusalem? I tell you, no, but UNLESS YOU REPENT, YOU WILL ALL likewise PERISH.” – Luke 13:1-5
Put away fleshly desires and stand in good stead
“Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” – Luke 21:34-36
God is merciful and implores ALL to repent!
Although God overlooked the ignorance of earlier times, He now commands all men everywhere to repent. – Acts 17:30
Why?
Clouds and thick darkness are all around him; RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE ARE THE FOUNDATION of His throne. – Psalm 97:2
He MUST punish sin! He BEGS you to REPENT!
Hear and give ear; BE NOT PROUD, for the LORD has spoken. GIVE GLORY TO THE LORD YOUR God BEFORE HE BRINGS DARKNESS, before your feet stumble on the twilight mountains, and while you look for light he turns it into gloom and makes it deep darkness. But IF YOU WILL NOT LISTEN, My SOUL WILL WEEP in secret for your pride; My EYES WILL WEEP BITTERLY and run down with tears, because the LORD’s flock has been taken captive.” – Jeremiah 13:15-17
The LORD is near to ALL WHO CALL ON Him, to all who call out to Him IN TRUTH. – Psalm 145:18
Please consider.
RichardL says
Christians are all different and make different mistakes.
I thought the CoE also believes in the physical presence of Christ during the Eucharist. If this is the case, they have committed a grave sin according to their own beliefs.
Renate says
It seems like heresy to invite an imam to deliver Eucharistic sermon. When you already have the Son of God, another prophet is redundant, to say the very least.
gravenimage says
The vicious Muhammed is a lot worse than merely redundant.
Jayell says
The C of E is Her Majesty’s Department of God. Any connection with Jesus Christ is entirely coincidental. So don’t be surprised if they start broadcasting the Call to Prayer at 1,000 decibels from the dome of St. Paul’s Cathedral and with any luck a thunderbolt will hit it just like one did and set fire to York Minster some years ago, after some bishop uttered a lesser profanity. At least they’d succeed where Hitler’s bombers failed in the 1940’s.
gravenimage says
I am glad that England–including my mother and aunt–stood bravely against the Nazis. I wish Britons would do the same today re Islam.
Andy says
+1 grave!
Me mum is included with standing up against the Nazis also my great Uncle Pte Lewellyn is REMEMBERED WITH HONOUR IN THE SCOTTISH NATIONAL WAR MEMORIAL
THE BLACK WATCH (ROYAL HIGHLAND REGIMENT) and THE TYNESIDE SCOTTISH.
WHO GAVE HIS LIFE WHILST SERVING HIS KING AND COUNTRY.
Andy says
Also, I should also remember the family who lost their lives while fighting the Nazis from my dad’s side of the family.
All of of us here on JW have a LOT of family members who lost their life while fighting evil.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Andy. Your family has a brave history.
My grandfather–a police superintendent in the West Midlands–was also responsible for resistance in his district had Britain been invaded. He ran regular drills with a civilian volunteer force.
Andy says
Yes, I remember mum telling me about the blackout curtains and a warden used to go around to the houses and knock on the doors of any house which had a bit of light shining thru. Possibly your relatives also recalled this to you grave.
When my dad reached England after the war, It was like paradise to him, Both my parents and myself love England and I am just like you very upset at the state of affairs of that beautiful land today. Part of our heritage.
I thought I would add this tune by Vera Lynn who is still alive at young age of 101 God Bless Her! Your relatives I think like mine loved Vera Lynn, I grew up listening to her music. My dad played her music a lot also Winston Churchill speeches that he had on LP record and reel to reel tapes. My parents absolutely loved Winston Churchill and so do I. I wish we had more men of this caliber today.
Dame Vera Margaret Lynn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vera_Lynn
Vera Lynn – When The Lights Go On Again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlFaY0s_QI
gravenimage says
Thank you, Andy. And thanks for that link.
mortimer says
Jayell, I’m betting this sort of thing gets the Queen mighty angry. Islam has never been benign towards Christianity.
The Contract of Omar has the following RESTRICTIONS on Christians which most Muslims think are still in effect :
“I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham: `In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city. When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion. We made a condition on ourselves that we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims. We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors [of our houses of worship] for the wayfarer and passerby. Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days. We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit [or betrayal] against Muslims. We will not teach our children the Qur’an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so. We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them. We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons. We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor. We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets. We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices [with prayer] at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets. We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims. We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.’ When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, `We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.”’
Jayell says
The Queen’s not allowed to do or say anything that’s not acceptable to Whitehall or else the UK’s a republic and she and the rest of them are out of a job. Don’t fooled by all the bowing-and-scraping; it’s all pure Hollywood, which is why Meghan Markel fits the bill so well. But you’ve got to stick to the script or else you might find yourself in a nasty road accident. The problem lies in who writes the scripts in Whitehall.
Craig says
Just another example why the C of E is dying. It won’t be long until it’s dead.
Kay says
Seems it’s declaring itself invalid.
Yokel says
Just like the MSM (MainStream Media), the MSC (MainStream Churches) are the enemy. One has to pick one’s church carefully if you want to find one that believes in “Christ and Him crucified” (to quote Paul in one of his letters). Broad is the way to hell, and many of the MSC are leading their flocks there. The Church of England forgot Christ a long time ago.
Marina says
I wonder what knowledge does this ape has of Eucharistic sermon ? The people attending should boycott and never give in to this madness.
mortimer says
It would be noticed if a large number of protesters were to sit in the front row and if they rose to leave when he arrives in the pulpit.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr spencer, mithraist christian evangelists have been visiting mosques for understanding each other’s position for the sake of peaceful co-existance .contrary to what you said mithraist christians preach love and tolerance, most of them preach hatred and insulting Islam including you Mr spencer.
R Russell says
Ibrahim,
I can suggest a Christian church wherever you are in the world so you can visit and join in the worship. They will love you and tell you how to get to know the Bible Jesus who, knowing you would be unable to live a pure life, died and rose again so you can get to know him.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
R Russel, I have been visiting many churches and interacting with mithraist christian scholars for exchange of ideas.i also watched mithraist christian barbarians in Lagos Nigeria wearing winged gowns jumping up and down to go to heaven. Russel, will you travel to Lagos Nigeria during Easter wearing winged gowns jumping up and down because heaven is closer there?
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
R Russel, I have been visiting many churches and interacting with mithraist christian scholars for exchange of ideas
………………………….
Does that “exchange of ideas” include Ibrahim itace muhammed telling Christians that he and his fellow Muslims have the right to rob, rape, enslave, and mass slaughter Christians who don’t submit to Islam?
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.i also watched mithraist christian barbarians in Lagos Nigeria wearing winged gowns jumping up and down to go to heaven. Russel, will you travel to Lagos Nigeria during Easter wearing winged gowns jumping up and down because heaven is closer there?
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What claptrap. There is, of course, no such Christian rite.
When I was away from Jihad Watch for a week a few months back due to computer problems, Ibrahim itace muhammed said that I must have jumped up to heaven in a winged gown. What a stooge.
Elisha says
Please, show us ONE verse in the quran that preaches peace to unbelievers!
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr spencer, mithraist christian evangelists have been visiting mosques for understanding each other’s position for the sake of peaceful co-existance .contrary to what you said mithraist christians preach love and tolerance, most of them preach hatred and insulting Islam including you Mr spencer.
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As Ibrahim itace muhammed has affirmed, the Islamic position of peaceful co-existence involves allowing Muslims to rape, enslave, and mass slaughter any Christians who do not submit to Islam.
Of course, civilized people do not actually consider this peaceful…
mortimer says
PROFESSIONAL HISTORIANS DENY THAT MITHAISM INFLUENCED CHRISTIANITY… Ibrahim is unable to understand their scholarship … he is unused to facts and logic …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE&t=589s
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link, Mortimer.
Mithraism’s influence on Christianity was entirely superficial. Christian Romans admired the pictorial tradition of their culture, which Judaism and Christianity up until that time largely lacked. So early Christian artists adopted such symbolism as the halo that was used in Mithraist images.
Likewise, early images of the Virgin and Child adopted imagery from depictions of Isis and Horus in ancient Egypt.
I wrote a paper on the subject when I was at university.
Doctrinally, Christianity has nothing in common with Mithraism, which was a martial creed popular in the Roman Army. It’s signature act of worship was violently sacrificing bulls.
The only reason Ibrahim itace muhammed keeps flogging this is he hopes if he can convince Infidels that Christianity is pagan that we will cheer Muslims slaughtering them.
Of course, not only is the assertion that Christianity is “mithraist” absurd to begin with, but we would not cheer his mass murdering actual pagans, either.
mortimer says
Yes, GI, professional historians debunked all of the claims quoted by Ibrahim in his credulous simplicity.
Wellington says
Sound post, gravenimage. Will of course be lost on the likes of Ibrahim who lives in a Mohammedan bubble that, highly likely, he will never extricate himself from.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Mortimer and Wellington.
islamic text says
Blantant Lies: Prophet Muhammad was a very peaceful man. He never hurt anyone, never hurt fly, much less killed anyone.
Mohammdens hijacking truth.
Anne says Apr 5, 2018 at 5:15 am
Mohammed was a man of his time. A Warlord’ ! If violent verses are in the Quran , and they are , Then acknowledge it ! In Jesus’s time , when he walked the earth , he spoke no violence to anyone ,. Believe or don’t believe. We have free will .
No religion is worth anything if someone is holding a gun to your head or a knife at your throat ! Islam behaves like the Mafia , making offers that you cannot refuse ! Which would be funny if it weren’t to damn tragic ..
SirHappyThe1st1 month ago
In the Quran Allah killed men, women, babies and animals in the story of Lot and Noah so what is the Muslim talking about? and why do Muslims always answer a question with a question?
NOTE: If someone had only ONE Islamic source from which to judge Islam, this would be the source. Read it cover-to-cover including the footnotes by Tabari. According to Ishaq the trouble starts even before Muhammad was born: Page 94: Ibnu’l-Hayyaban came from Syria to Mecca in order the hope of seeing the “…emergence of a prophet whose time was at hand” and was a Jewish soothsayer. He predicts the coming of Muhammad by noting the following: “His time has come, and don’t let anyone get to him before you, O Jews; for he will be sent to shed blood and to take captive the women and children of those who oppose him. Let not that keep you back from him”.]
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
the first biography of Muhammad, by the the eighth century devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, several times ordered the murders of people who have insulted him. you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
List of 43 Incidents When Mohammed Ordered or Supported KILLING
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by mohammed
ACCOUNT OF MOHAMMED’S VIGILANTE MURDERS
Please Google
Muhammad’s “Dead Poets Society”
brotherjw
PLEASE, LISTEN THIS U-TUBE VIDEO. THIS Ex-muslim provides tremendous information with references in it. HE DOES NOT SHOW HIS FACE BECAUSE HE is BEING LISTENED IN THE FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES LIKE SAUDI ARABIA AND PAKISTAN.
Published on 7 May 2008
Comments & Discussion: http://brotherpete.com/index.php?boar…
HISTORY OF MECCA http://www.historyofmecca.com
Please visit: http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3 For more on Mohammed, as bequeathed to us from the hadith.
Was Muhammad the ‘Prophet of Peace’ that his followers claim? Discover the Facts in 4 Chapters.
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Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 -900 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
[Asma Bint Marwan, a contemporary Muhammad in Medina. She was a critic of Muhammad and his Jihadists. You can find out what happened to her in the Hadith of Ibn Ishaq:
The fate of Asma Bint Marwan, Ishaq (p. 676):
“‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
So it goes, that the critics of Islam are dispatched, and goats are still butting heads. I can only think of Theo Van Gogh, or Charlie Hebdo, or any of a number of countless critics who have disappeared into the abyss of history.
Remember Obama in his 2012 UN speech: “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”. ————- Charlie
Elisha says
History of Mecca is an EXCELLENT link. Well done! Historical/archaeological evidence utterly destroys islam and attests instead to the veracity of claims made in the Bible.
GLORY TO THE LAMB OF GOD!
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.” – Revelation 22:16
Wellington says
Islam has contempt for Christianity. Hinduism doesn’t. Buddhism doesn’t. Judaism doesn’t. Sikhism doesn’t. Taoism doesn’t. Et al. Moreover, Islam seeks to subordinate Christians in this world to a Jim Crow second-class status whenever and wherever it can. No other major faith engages in this rot in their theological blueprint about Christians.
EVERY adult Christian should know that Islam denies the divinity of Jesus, asserts that Jesus was not crucified (to be found, among other places in the Islamic scripts, in Sura 4 of the Koran), that, per Islamthink, Jesus was a Muslim as were Noah, Abraham, Moses, etc. (yes, Islam is very “appropriating”), and, most important, per Islamic theology and as upheld by every major school of Islamic theology to this very day, whether Sunni or Shiite, Jesus, a staunch Muslim, will come back at the end of the world and throw all Christians into Hell for deifying Him.
Any Christian who doesn’t know all this about Islam is an ignorant Christian—and invariably any ignorant Christian is a burden to their faith, not an aid. And any Christian who does know all this about Islam and still accords Mohammedanism any respect is a very foolish Christian indeed—and foolish Christians are also of no service to Christianity. Quite the contrary, they are an impediment to their creed of choice because a Christian needs not only to be devout but informed as well—and proceed accordingly thereafter, for the good of Christianity, for the good of all mankind.
Kepha says
I’m in full agreement that the vicar of this CoE church in Oxford is a blind guide and betrayer of Christ. I am extremely appalled that an ostensibly Christian cleric would invite an imam to speak from a Christian pulpit, when the contradictions between Qu’ran and Gospel are legion.
However, Hunduism and Buddhism do indeed have contempt for Christianity. I have lived quite some time in the Far East as both a private citizen expat and as a diplomat. Christians have been attacked by militant Hindus in India; and Nepal tried to keep Christian influence out. The Boxer rebellion in China was motivated by Buddhism, and its main targets were Chinese Christians. The Sangha in Sri Lanka is intense in its hatred of Christians. The “peace-loving” Buddhists of Myanmar have been as rough on Karen, Chin, and Kachin Christians as they’ve been on Muslims.
If you adhere to the truth of A, and B contradicts it, it’s pretty hard not to have a hard attitude towards B.
Wellington says
Thanks for your reply, Kepha. When I wrote that Hinduism and Buddhism do not have a contempt for Christianity, I specifically mentioned that these religions didn’t in their theological blueprint as Islam most definitely does. Certainly Hindus and Buddhists many times have acted badly, including towards Christians, but then Christians have also acted badly over the centuries in the name of their creed, contra what their creed stands for. But I know of nothing in the theological blueprint of Hinduism or Buddhism, contra Islam, that manifests a contempt for Christianity. If so, I would be most interested in learning of it. Hope you and family are doing well.
Elisha says
“Islam has contempt for Christianity. Hinduism doesn’t. Buddhism doesn’t. Judaism doesn’t. Sikhism doesn’t. Taoism doesn’t.”
Wrong!
“He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters.” – Matthew 12:30
But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” – Matthew 12:48-50
Amen.
gravenimage says
Elisha, none of what you wrote refutes Wellington’s statement that Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Sikhism, and Taoism have no contempt for Christianity.
Indeed, Christians can generally live peacefully in all these places where the above faiths make up the majority. Not so with Islam, though.
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
DHazard says
It’s hard to love your neighbors when you are doing all the loving, when you are doing all the cooperating, when your hand is the only one held out, when your words of welcome are untarnished by their veiled animosity, when they do all the talking, when they demand unearned respect, when they are shameless and most of all, when they blame you for everything.
I can’t judge the intentions of this church and won’t. Even if it’s just for brownie points it’s still an act that springs from the idea of unity.
R Russell says
Jesus never preached unity of believers with unbelievers.
“…Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God;….”
We cannot worship together, but we can be friends – at least if the Muslims can forget taqiyya, tawriya, kitman and muruna.
FYI says
islam does not subscribe to the idea that we can all just get along and be friends.
The koran teaches that muslims must not be friends with Jews and christians or any other non-muslim creed.{koran 5 v 51}
There are no two chief commandments in islam:no golden rule,no love thy neighbor.
The koran also curses Jews for being Jews and Christians for believing in Jesus{koran 9:30}
islam’s supremacist ideology is based on the belief that muslims are superior..
the koran says muslims are “the best community that hath been raised up for mankind”
koran 3:110
And with their superiority complex they are above others…
“Oh ye who believe! take not the Jews and Christians for friends”
koran 5 v 51
The reason many muslims do not want to hear about Jesus is explained in 2 Thessalonians 2 v 10-11 and John 8 v 42-47
Jayell says
I have immense admiration for all those posting here who so expertly analyse and discuss the fine details of islamic ‘theology'(sic), but isn’t it rather like validating the craft of the dubious counterfeit artist?
gravenimage says
Jayell, it is important to know one’s enemy. That does not mean holding their appalling false creed in respect.
Carol the 1st says
dHazard wrote: “I can’t judge the intentions of this church and won’t. Even if it’s just for brownie points it’s still an act that springs from the idea of unity”
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Seeking meaningful unity with individuals might be a worthy endeavour but giving a platform to a peddler of a malignant ideology reminds me of bringing in a seasoned, chronic liar to weave nonsense to a classroom full of undiscriminating children. To do this is misleading and irresponsible. You don’t lead your flock into an obvious trap.
Warmac9999 says
No surprise. The English and American churches have been taken over by radical leftists. They are all in for the lgbtq agenda and now the Muslim agenda. The decline has been precipitous and those who are religious Christians are now in evangelical churches or unchurched.
Wellington says
Agreed. And again can be seen that the main problem is not Islam, rotten though it is, but rather modern Western Leftism which infects everything it touches, whether it be education, the NFL, the Boy Scouts, marriage, late night comedy (boy, do I miss the days of Johnny Carson), et al.
Islam is a miserable excuse for a religion but if modern Western Leftism did not exist (there’s a beautiful thought), what Islam “offers” to mankind could far more easily by handled by Western governments and societies, which governments and societies Islam only seeks to destroy,
Once again, it is crystal clear that the enemy within is far more dangerous, destructive and lethal than the enemy without. The ultimate challenge in our era? It is NOT Islam, egregious though it be; rather it is Ignorance of Islam driven by the Left and even accepted by many unthinking and uninformed people on the Right (e.g., Bush 43).
Wellington says
“be” and not “by”
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
Excellent post, my compliments.
I too, miss Johnny Carson. Watching his pre-9/11 reruns on YouTube is surreal.
Andy says
I loved Johnny Carson, I basically stopped watching the tonight show after Heeeeeerrrres Johnny with Ed McMahon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYnyPAkgyvc
Carol the 1st says
I don’t think this is a digression:
Why the NPC Meme FREAKS OUT the Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXzlG28YFAA
WPM says
I wonder what kind of “donation ” an Islamic group or individuals made to this church to have this man share space at the alter? Or was it out of shear stupidity and forced ignorance PC signaling that this church like the current Pope of the Roman Catholic church does not see the wolves in sheep,s clothing ready to devour there flock. Interfaith should not be a suicide pack for warlords ready to ransack and destroy the Christian Church in the Western World like they destroyed it in most of the Middle East. A violent faith, for violent people, who are sworn ,by their god to convert us, or have us slaves, or kill us.
gravenimage says
I doubt that Muslims gave these foolish Christians any money. Generally it is Christians giving money to Muslims. The Christians here are more likely foolish dhimmis.
gravenimage says
UK: Church invites imam to deliver Eucharistic sermon
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Uh…right. Even though Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Savior, nor believe in the Eucharist. Much worse, of course, they persecute and murder Christians on the basis of these beliefs.
Will Imam Monawar Hussain mention this? Of course not.
He’s been dishing up Taqiyya for years now.
mortimer says
The Bishop of Oxford needs to learn more about Islam and order his clergy to learn these 35 points about Islam:
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims. 35. Holy books of Islam contain more calls for violence than all other foundational religious texts.
Any Christian clergy who have NOT learned about AL WALAA WAL BARAA do not know the MOTIVATION OF ISLAM.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
makawayke says
the snakes are in the door; watch out; next will be free clinic for fgm;you people are nuts to allow these cretins in your holy places; absolutely stupid. do you not understand this is just a ploy??????
wake up
6woods says
Where do you live? The snakes are at your door as well. Have you woken up? What are you doing about the snakes?
gravenimage says
Yes–there are problems like this all over the West.
mortimer says
PEACE, LOVE AND TOLERANCE TOWARDS CHRISTIANS is NOT STANDARD ISLAM … AL WALAA WAL BARAA (Islamic apartheid) IS STANDARD ISLAM … Muslims HATE CHRISTIANS ‘for the sake of Allah’ …
ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF HATE: ‘AL BARAA’ = Islamic Apartheid, Shunning
‘Baraa’ is HATRED towards Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’…Al Bughoud or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love towards Muslims). Baraa is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the dirty kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
– from a lecture given by Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal (H.A.): “The implication of al-Baraa is that one HATES for the sake of Allah (SWT)…Al-Baraa means to recognize who your enemies are and to HATE them and EXTERMINATE them in their Endeavour to get rid of your Deen, al-Islam…Al-Baraa is to HATE the people who propagate Baatil (falsehood)—the Muslim should HATE them and (at least desire to) KILL them when the time comes.”
(Note: not ‘if the time comes’, but ‘WHEN the time comes.)
– “Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason (i.e. criticism of Islam), you can say, it is OK – even if there is NO REASON for it. You can poison, ambush and kill non-believers. You must have a stand with your heart, with your tongue, with your money, with your hand, with your sword, with your Kalashnikov. Don’t ask shall I do this, just do it.”Abu Hamza al-Masri (Egyptian born British Cleric)
– “As a Muslim, I must have hatred for anything non-Islam” – Anjem Choudary.
– “The matter is clear on this issue. It is obligatory to disassociate and absolve oneself from the disbelievers and their religion. The issue of al-Walaa wal-Baraa is from among the greatest obligations in Islaam.” (Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzan, 2005, p. 308)
– Obligation to Hate Kufaar: “With regard to matters of love and hate in the heart, the Muslims’ attitude towards non-Muslims is based on the latter’s attitude towards Allaah. If they worship Allaah and do not associate anything in worship with Him, then they love them. If they associate others in worship with Him, or disbelieve in Him, or worship others alongside Him, or are hostile towards His religion and hate the truth, then it is obligatory to hate them in our hearts.” – Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
Summary of the Sermon: A Muslim is required by Sharia law to hate the disbelievers so that he will be motivated to kill them at a later time, thus carrying out Allah’s justice against those who say Mohammed is not a prophet.
Marco Elliott says
Anglicans, you cannot say that you have not been warned.
“Do not give holy things to dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.” (Lk 7:6)
Salome says
St Mary’s is the University Church in Oxford. Every year it holds the University Sermon. It is being delivered after the Eucharist, as a separate event. It is not a ‘eucharistic sermon’. The University Sermon is a rather big affair, and sometimes touches on political topics with a view to edifying more than just the assembled congregation. None of that, however, is meant to defend inviting an Imam to deliver it. It’s still a sermon, and it should be delivered at the very least by some sort of Christian minister (if the C of E no longer has clergy fit to be invited). All very sad, but true to the way the C of E has been going.
Mark A. says
No wonder the Anglican Church is losing members at a rapid rate. Its doctrine is totally malleable.
islamic text says
Mohammed ordered the brutal, sadistic killing of Umm Qirfa, “a very old woman” by tying her legs with a
rope attached to two camels driven in opposite directions thus tearing her body (Ibn Ishak, pp.664-665).
Umm Qirfa was torn limb from limb by four camels (Rodinson, p.248). (Mortimer)
What’s the issue? Don’t you people have any respect for precedent??!! The followers of Mr. Mo. were simply following past example:
Ibn Ishaq, the first authentic biographer of Muhammad gives us the details in his Sirat Rasul Allah:
Zayd B. Haritha’s raid on Banu Fazara and the Death of Umm Qirfa
Zayd also raided Wadi-l-Qurra where he met Banu Fazara and some of his companions were killed; he himself carried wounded from the field. Ward b. Amr b. Madash one of B. Sad b. Hudhayl was killed by one of B. Badr whose name Sa’d b. Hudhaym. When Zayd came he swore that he would use no ablution until he raided B. Fazara; and when he recovered from his wounds the apostle sent him against them with a force. He fought them in Wadi-al-Qura and killed some of them. Qays b. al-Musahhar al-Yamuri killed Mas’ada b. Hakama b. Malik b. Hudhayfa b. Badr and Umm Qirfa Fatima was taken prisoner. She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter and Abdulla b. Mas’ada were also taken. Zaid ordered Qays b al-Musahhar to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly.
Ibn Ishaq 980
“And he killed her cruelly”. The cruel method used by the holy warriors of Muhammad to kill Umm Qirfa is described in Al-Tabari:
“By putting a rope into her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two….”[1]
Allah’s Messenger sent Zayd to Wadi Qura, where he encountered the Banu Fazarah. Some of his Companions were killed, and Zayd was carried away wounded. Ward was slain by the Banu Badr. When Zayd returned, he vowed that no washing should touch his head until he had raided the Fazarah. After he recovered, Muhammad sent him with an army against the Fazarah settlement. He met them in Qura and inflicted casualties on them and took Umm Qirfah prisoner. He also took one of Umm’s daughters and Abdallah bin Mas’adah prisoner. Zyad bin Harithah ordered Qays to kill Umm, and he killed her cruelly. He tied each of her legs with a rope and tied the ropes to two camels, and they split her in two.
This is yet another reminder and example of wisdom of the Christian man , Roger Williams, who was the founder of America’s State of Rhode Island. For he wisely wrote “That religion cannot be true which need instruments of violence to uphold it.”
Anywhere in the world there are moslems; there is trouble
[Muhammad on another occasion cried out, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?” One of his followers, Umayr ibn Adi, went to her house that night, where he found her sleeping next to her children. The youngest, a nursing babe, was in her arms. But that didn’t stop Umayr from murdering her and the baby as well. Muhammad commended him: “You have done a great service to Allah and His Messenger, Umayr!” (Ibn Ishaq, 674-676)]
Questions: Allah is not merciful , mohd and his allah retaliating. Allah is not all knowing, allah did not know Zaid cruel method of barbarity. There is no any example pagan used this cruel method.Jesus Christ said , “Love your enemy”did not promote retaliation.
Derek Bayliss2 years ago
The answer is simple; Muhammad could not tolerate a woman enjoying a leadership role in any society,
this much about his personal views towards Pagan women is made clear in Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219.
[2] This old woman became a target for this very reason and as some sources attest, Muhammad had ordered his people to display the old woman’s decapitated head throughout the streets of Medina.
[3] This was meant as a lesson to the Arabs and their forthcoming generations that a woman should never hold a high position in society. Unbelievable brutality by MOHAMMAD
TruthAlways6 years ago
Which is worst, the killing of frail elderly woman or sexual weening of Muhammad’s infant grandson? Prophet Muhammad HAD played with his grandson’s penis, kissed it and sucked it. Folks, believe this, it is all in the Hadiths. It’s all there.
Muhammad asked: “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” One of the Muslims, Muhammad bin Maslama answered, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” When Muhammad said that he would, Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab).” Muhammad responded: “You may say it.” Muhammad bin Maslama duly lied to Ka’b, luring him into his trap, and murdered him. (Sahih Bukhari, volume 5, book 59, number 369)
Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Mohamed’s insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty and lies to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Mohamed. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.
Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it.”
– Hadith Bukhari 5.59.369
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
Muhammad says there is to be no punishment for murdering someone who insults him
For example, in Sunan Abu-Dawud, a canonical hadith collection:
Book 38, Number 4348:
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas [a companion of Muhammad]:
A blind man had a slave-mother [a slave who bore children for him] who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He [the blind man] forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he [the blind man] took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
R Russel, I have been going to many churches for exchange of ideas, not worship the satan god they worship, just to know why they stick to that idiocy. I also observed some mithraist christians in Lagos Nigeria wearing winged gowns jumping up and down to go to heaven. will you travel to Lagos Nigeria during Easter to make a short trip to heaven because heaven is closer there?
gravenimage says
By “going to many churches for exchange of ideas”, is Ibrahim itace muhammed referring to murdering Christians?
islamic text says
‘A’isha reported that Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) cut off the hand of a thief for a quarter of a dinar rid upwards.
Sahih Muslim 1684a, Book 29, Hadith 1 USC-MSA web Book 17, Hadith 4175
Muhammad in his Quran commands that the hands of male or female thieves should be cut off (Sura 5:38).
Muhammad in his Quran commands death or the cutting off of hands and feet for fighting and corrupting the land (Sura 5:33).
Between 622 and 626, mohd conquered these Jewish tribes in Medina , and killed 3000 men
• Muhammad amputated arms (Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 81, Number 787),
• Tortured and killed unbelievers: “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, ‘If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, ‘By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.” (Al-Tabari, vol. 7, p. 133; cf. Ibn Ishaq 387)
• Perfect mo was happy enough to commit serial adultery himself and he stoned women for this sin {muslim 4206}which he himself revelled in:the old hypocrite!
• Actually Mohammedans killed a man named bin akktal in the kaba.
• Mohammed tortured people and rape
Jude Fernandes9 months ago
Muhammad also personally beheaded the men of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe. “Then they [the Jewish Qurayzah tribe] surrendered, and the apostle [Muhammad] confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. Al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka’b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900.” (Ibn Ishaq 690)
Is it the deeply spiritual value of putting hot coals on a vicitims chest
When the Muslims attacked the Jews at the Arabian oasis of Khaybar, a Jewish leader of Khaybar, Kinana bin al-Rabi, was brought before Muhammad; Kinana was supposed to have been entrusted with the treasure of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia, the Banu Nadir. Kinana denied knowing where this treasure was, but Muhammad pressed him: “Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?” Kinana said yes, that he did know that. Some of the treasure was found. To find the rest, Muhammad gave orders concerning Kinana: “Torture him until you extract what he has.” One of the Muslims built a fire on Kinana’s chest, but Kinana would not give up his secret. When he was at the point of death, one of the Muslims beheaded him. (Ibn Ishaq 511-515)
[Mohammed said: “Torture him until you extract what he has.”So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.” (Bukhari)
The “beautiful pattern” of the “perfect man”.
DHazard says Apr 4, 2018 at 6:08 pm
“Torture him until you extract what he has.” One of the Muslims built a fire on Kinana’s chest, but Kinana would not give up his secret. When he was at the point of death, one of the Muslims beheaded him.” (Ibn Ishaq 511-515)
These are the unsanitized words of a greedy, violent, heartless man as well as the immediate c compliance with his wishes by his followers.
islamic text says
After the Messenger of God conquered al-Qamus, the fortress of Ibn Abi al-Huqyaq, Safiyyah bt. Huyayy b. Akhtab was brought to him, and another woman with her.Bilal brings Safiyah and her sister-in-law to Muhammad so he can choose one of them for the night while the “Mercy of Allah” PBUH had just finished torturing Kinana to death. Upon seeing her brother’s slain body, Kinana’s young sister becomes hysterical.
The Mercy of Allah slaps her face and says, “Take this she-devil away from me.” That she-devil’s offence was to cry out upon seeing her brother’s corpse. Then this Ensaane Kaamel (perfect human) rebukes Bilal and says, “Have you no compassion, Bilal, when you brought these two women past their dead husband and brother?” she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of allah had chosen her for himself.”
[Bilal, who was the one who brought them, led them past some of the slain Jews. When the woman who was with Safiyyah saw them, she cried out, struck her face, and poured dust on her head. When the Messenger of God saw her, he said, “Take this she-devil away from me!” she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of allah had chosen her for himself.”]
Adbollah one of the 42 scribes renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
Your own core source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man
We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad also took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed, according to core Islamic texts.
The following video begins with the words “Dear Muslim,” spoken by a former Muslim who goes by the moniker “Brother Ismaa’eel.” As you will see, Brother Ismaa’eel, who is fluent in Arabic and English, displays and very clearly explains in this video the primary Islamic source texts where
https://youtu.be/bSV-0HdiFEM
Qur’an 3:151, 33:26 reveald at Muhammad’s massacre of Banu Quraizah, 7:3-4, 59:2, 8:12-13, 59-60
Muslims who BETRAY (to Q5:33) mafia godfather 47:4, 8:17, 9:14-5 allah are APOSTATES form evil ISSlam
-> 4:89 “SLAY them wherever ye find them”
The peaceful prophet who wouldn’t harm a fly, killing people himself -2671
islamic text says
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Muhammad: The Eye Gouging “Prophet” u-tube video
Published on 6 Apr 2017
Many people believe Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was a righteous and peaceful person. The average person today (ie: one who hasn’t really read the Quran for themselves or looked into other acceptable Islamic sources) ignorantly believes that “nowhere in the Quran” did Allah command Muhammad or his followers to behead, kill or hate people. Well… according to the Quran and other authentic Islamic sources, Muhammad not only hated and killed his enemies and those who disagreed with him, but he also blinded the eyes of those who committed apostasy, and those who were of the “disbelievers” (ie: anyone who wasn’t Muslim). And Muhammad did all these evil and ungodly acts all in the name of his god “Allah”.
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Cruelty like this is NEVER morally justifiable, no matter WHAT crimes were committed. Muhammad’s shocking brutality, which he displayed over and over again, is yet more proof that he was NOT called by God
Muhammad as portrayed in the sira and ahadith was simply a human MONSTER. The only reason that Muslims fail to see this is because their leaders have taught them to AVOID thinking about Islam objectively and critically. Tabari Vol.8:Page.96 (Hugo Hackenbush) Note: Jesus gives sight to blinds . Mohd blinds people
Muhammad had a rival mosque burned down, intending to kill everyone inside. The history is a cannibal feast.
Sunan Abu Da’wud Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4744:
‘Arfajah told that he heard the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Various corruptions will arise in my community, so strike with sword the one who tries to cause separation in the matter of Muslims when they are united, whoever he be.”
Foot note 4153, the English translator of Sunaan Dawud, Professor Ahmad Hasan admits that it is permissible to ‘cannibalize’ dissident Islamic group/s. He writes: ‘The Prophet (may peace be upon him) did not tolerate disunity and schism among Muslims. Therefore, he ordered that, instead of causing separation and disagreement in the community, it is better to kill the person who causes disunity.’
–Abul Kasem “Cannibalizing Islam”
• Khaama Press, November 3,11, 2017 : the militants kidnaped 85 years old lady ,initially chopped off the limbs of the elderly woman before murdering her on charges of cooperating and supporting the government in southern Helmand province of Afghanistan
and another one Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall
Hustle Loy2 months ago
Sahih al-Bukhari 5686 Book 76, Hadith 9 Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.
o Jack Diamond says July 30, 2016 at 1:02 pm
“Islam ordered death for the crimes(murder,adultery(married person) and fighting)”
• just being a kaffir. But then disbelief itself is “fighting” Islam, isn’t it
• a Muslim leaving Islam “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9, #57) But that’s “fighting” Islam too, isn’t it?
• blasphemy. Insulting the Qur’an is blasphemy. Burning a Qur’an is insulting Islam. Insulting Muhammad in any fashion is blasphemy, deserving of death. Death, death, and more death.
• “Blood, blood, destruction, destruction!” as peace-loving Muhammad proclaimed (The Pledge of Aqaba).
Let’s just deal with ‘whoever curses a Prophet, kill him’ for how Islam orders death:
“al-Husayn ibn ‘Ali related from his father that the Messenger of Allah said in respect of this matter, “Whoever curses a Prophet, kill him.
• Whoever curses my Companions, beat him.”
• “Those who harm Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Next, and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.” (33:57).
“the Prophet commanded that Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf be killed. He asked, “Who will deal with Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf? He has harmed Allah and His Messenger.” He sent someone to assassinate him without calling him to Islam, in distinction to other idol-worshippers. The cause of that lay in his causing harm to the Prophet. That indicates that the Prophet had him killed for something other than idol-worship. It was for causing harm.
Abu Rafi from Jew tribe,’ who never done any thing to harm the Messenger of Allah and muslims., 6 Men broke into his house and killed him killed while he was asleep.They went back to mohd, who examined their swords to find out who killed the man sword still has the food determined the killer..
“he ordered the killing of Ibn Khatal and his two slavegirls who used to sing his curses on the Prophet.
“It is related that a woman used to curse the Prophet and he said, “Who will save me from my enemy?” Khalid ibn al-Walid went out and killed her.
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm
Ibn Taymiyyah said:
“The First Issue: That Whoever – be it Muslim or kāfir – Swears at the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم, Then It Is Obligatory to Execute Him
As to the idea Muhammad sometimes forgave those who insulted him and Muslims now also can:
“Rasulullah sometimes chose to forgive those who had insulted him, and sometimes he ordered that they should be executed, if that served a greater purpose. But now his forgiveness is impossible because he is dead, so the execution of the one who insults him remains the right of Allaah, His Messenger and the believers, and the one who deserves to be executed cannot be let off, so the punishment must be carried out. {Al-Saarim al-Maslool, 2/438}
“Insulting the Prophet is one of the worst of forbidden actions, and it constitutes kufr and apostasy from Islam, according to scholarly consensus, whether done seriously or in jest. The one who does that is to be executed even if he repents and whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir. If he repents sincerely and regrets what he has done, this repentance will benefit him on the Day of Resurrection and Allaah will forgive him but that will not help him in the worldly life because he will still be executed.”
https://ansarukhilafah.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/the-islamic-ruling-on-the-one-who-insults-the-rasulmay-peace-and-blessings-be-upon-him/
No, Islam orders death– for Qur’an burners and for critics and mockers. From the daughter of Marwaan
to Theo Van Gogh, or Salman Rushdie or Molly Norris or Danish cartoonists or Charlie Hebdo…
Muslimwhisper8 years ago
Under Shari’a law, a prisoner is buried up to her breast, her hands restrained. Rules also specify the size of the stones which can be thrown so that death is painful and not imminent. Both men and women can be sentenced to die by stoning. In practise, however, an overwhelming number of women receive that penalty.
islamic text says
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Muslim Reformer Imam Tawhidi crimes in ISLAM u- tube
Psalm _23
Chopping head off, cooking and eating history of islam
Companion of mohd -cousin of moh khalid bin waleed , did he have head chopped off him because he refused to collect taxation money for the islamic caliph order, majority of muslim revere him, he was sword of god , sword of justice , victim was cooked and ate him
Christian Prince is doing the commentry and presenting proof mohd and his companions were real criminals
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Arahan alhaqiqat alsaraf1 year ago
I have seen some of imam tawhidi’s letest videos. He did criticise prophet muhammad.
He also read the hadith which said about the killing of 6 urkal tribe men. Tawhidi agreed that prophet muhammad himself did the killing.
Andy B1 year ago (edited)
If you watch his other content, he does condemn the actions of Muhammed. In this video, he was asking if the actions were performed by the prophet or if he ordered one of his followers to do it. He is trying to show the truth about the matter he raises eith the texts he has collected. On further note, he wants to have a hard printed copy of the original texts instead of a website or a scan so he can show it has not been altered, and that when he quotes from the text, he can prove his quotations and use full context. His lack of immediately saying that the prophet himself was a cruel and evil barbaric man with no affection for human life, isnt him not condemning him, his argument was against people calling him a liar, and him wanting to prove himself through quoting the texts.
Yes I agree some time tawhidi bent the truth a little. Like, i never heard tawhidi taking about Ali the 4th khalif. However unlike all other mohamedans tawhidi is trying to be honest. I think.
Fresh Impact Co.1 month ago (edited)
I thought Mohammed the prophet was a good man. Then I saw the hadith and now no.
If this is the true prophet’s personality and he did these things then no Mohammed is no prophet of mine.
If you are a Muslim and see these hadith and the crimes committed by Mohammed and not feel these are justified acts by a prophet then you must renounce Islam and become Christian.
Imams argue that to be a Muslim then you have to believe in the hadiths. Yet the very hadith are in direct conflict to the prophet’s before him and if you seek out people of the books before you they will tell you the lies of Islam and you will need to leave the fake religion of Islam as it is ALL lies.
Radical Muslims hurl abuse at Imam Tawhidi & Kim Vuga (Today Tonight Mirror)
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Imam Tawhidi is the one actual moderate Muslim that says Islam needs to be reformed, you can imagine how the “peaceful” religion responds to that. – I OWN NOTHING
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secular value1 year ago
Australia should look into it’s left wing politicians and media if you wish to protect your country.
I am a muslim by birth and i know how much hate and bigotry this religion is capable of.
Carole Davis1 year ago
Islam is being used by globalists as an invasion force in the West.
The Globalist group – with members like Soros, – have controlled the US presidency for the last 25 years, they have controlled the UK government since the fall of Thatcher – and no doubt have been working in Australia for about the same time.
They have manufactured wars in the Mid
East that have created the invasion we see today.
I was always under the impression that critisizm of Islam (as this Imam is doing) was considered apostasy under Sharia law – and punishable by death.
It is currently a jailable offence (under ‘hate speech’ laws) to critisize Islam in: France, Germany, Sweden, and Canada – RIGHT NOW.
I listened to a BBC Asia radio program about 2 months ago, and heard a councilman from Birmingham DEMANDING that critisizm of Islam become a CAPITAL offence under BRITISH law…. in other words, for the UK to adopt Sharia law, OVER the law of the land… only doing it in a sneaky back door manner.
Sadiq Kahn DEMANDED that the City of London become a Sharia state…
3 months ago a group DEMANDED that Sharia law be put above the State and US constitution in Austin TX.
Do you see the trend?
This process WILL be repeated in Australia.
Islam is invading, backed by many political groups and funded – and goaded by the globalists.
Globalism is the enemy of ALL humanity those supporting it should be exiled to remote places – where they can practice their form of living without disrupting the rest of the world.
Confiscate the entire fortunes of the Rocjerfella/Rothschild and their ilk.
Use the money to rebuild the countries they have destroyed on their path to attempting to reinstate the Pharonic concept of ‘government’ (.000001 at the top of the pyramid, the rest of us building the bloody thing beneath them, for a mud hut, a jug of beer, loaf of bread and some khol every day).
Jose Nico1 year ago
In Egypt a Sheikh interpret the Quran in different way asking to stop kill christian and others, this endup with 13 years in prison
Tom Graham1 year ago
This is the only way that Muslims can truly express their religion, by attempting to terrorise others. The very essence of Islam is to instil fear into the hearts of those it wants to control and manipulate. Imam Tawhidi is in great danger of his life yet he still stands up for change in Muslim community. He is by far the greater man by his actions.
Zatchooze Naut10 months ago
13 Muslim majority countries have rules against apostasy. If the majority of Muslims believe apostasy laws are unIslamic, they would rebel against their governments but they do not. They support apostasy laws.
Malcolm Jackson says
No wonder British Churches are virtually empty nowadays.
ronyvo says
I know for sure that our church will NEVER do something crazy and stupid like that. We suffered the horrible Islamic treatment for over 1400 years and STILL going on. We know better. Muslims are allowed and encouraged to lie (takyya) to deceive the infidels in order to invade them ‘peacefully.
Godlessgirl says
Why don’t you guys ever notice the peaceful Imams that have lots of followers?
gravenimage says
Do you have any examples?
Moreover, even if there were some peaceful Imams, how does this negate the almost 34,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11, or the creeping Shari’ah in places like the UK?
Moderate Muslimah says
This site is dangerous and hateful. You people attack all Muslims and demonize us.
gravenimage says
Not at all. This site is against Jihad.
Do you have a problem with your coreligionists raping and murdering us? If you do, then why not take it up with them, instead of saying that those who oppose such horrors are “dangerous and hateful”?
Carol the 1st says
NPC alert! Someone “sensitive” is feeling “dehumanized”!
Peggy says
Until you start exposing the hate and horror of Islam and work against those who live by the sword you won’t deserve anything better.
It’s people like you who attack us for exposing the hate in Islam who make us question just how many Muslims are happy for someone to do the dirty work.
We can’t trust any of you. I’m sure there are decent Muslims but how do we go about recognizing them?
You seem peaceful but can only condemn us not your own religion.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Peggy.
alex Reid says
They’re laughing their cocks off!! I bet there will be NO verses on cutting non-Muslims’ throats, enslaving non-Muslim women/children. looting etc. etc. All Sweetness & Light! What complete Bullshit! I bet a minister wouldn’t be permitted to preach in a Mosque. If there was a God, there’d be Lightening Bolts & Earthquakes, striking down these thieving, raping liars, stentorian voice booming out warning all.
Politicianophobia says
I am sure he will start his sermon by saying “La ilaha illa Allah”, and then move on to Shari’ah–Mosque and state are NOT separate, jihad, jihad, captives in jihad may executed or kept as sex slaves, 4 wives, sex with prepubescent girls, thighing, slaves, apostacy laws, blasphemy (maybe speak of Asis Bibi), cutting off hands of thieves, flogging, woman’s testimony in court of law counts for half a man’s–since she might forget-2:282-women’s minds are deficient, husbands may “HIT” their wives. He may end with “Islam cannot accept any mixing with jahilyyah, Shari’ah will prevail.” ANY BETS?
staffsgt7 says
I hope all the people stand up and leave when the imam goes to do his thing. But I don’t put too much hope in the Brits anymore. sorry but they are ok with what is going on, just as the Swedes, Germans, etc are. Oh, there might be a handful but… the Brits just seem to be without a spine.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; In a related story, Ted Bundy, and John Wayne Gacy,
will be giving a sermon on morals in the Vatican.
Politicianophobia says
+1
Manny says
OMG, this is disgraceful. This is sacrilege. Church of England is lost.
Jayell says
The Church of England was basically formed by Henry VIII to subvert the political aLpower of the Pope in England and to legitimise his (Henry’s) philandering in his purported quest for a male heir. It’s been HRH’s Department of God ever since. So it’s already been ‘lost’ for quite a long time!
Arthur says
Now that Anjem Choudary is free on parole, I think this would be an excellent sermon to which to invite him along. Then he can refute Monawar Hussein’s comments with quotes, while the both of them stand there in their nice white gowns.
>> Monawar: “Islam is a religion of peace.”
>> Anjem: “No, it’s not!”
etc.