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UK: Police told to “reflect upon the community impact” and “trauma” for Muslims of terror investigation

Oct 12, 2018 4:57 pm By Robert Spencer

Ever the victim. This is the rule: in jihad attacks, the first victims are Muslims. And even a non-Muslim official, Max Hill QC, here plays the game. This will, of course, hinder efforts to combat the spread of the jihad ideology in Muslim communities in the UK, but there aren’t any such efforts anyway, so all is well, and all manner of thing shall be well, until the whole fantasy structure collapses and there is blood in the streets due to the folly of Theresa May and her cronies.

“Police Must ‘Reflect’ on Impact and ‘Trauma’ of Manchester Attack Investigation on Local Muslims,” by Liam Deacon, Breitbart, October 11, 2018:

Police have been told to “reflect upon the community impact” on Manchester’s “large Muslim population” caused by their investigation into last year’s attack in the city, where children and their parents were massacred by a local Muslim extremist.

Max Hill QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, revealed that at least one local Muslim woman had been paid compensation and claimed many had been “inconvenienced if not traumatised” by the manhunt for suspects linked to the Manchester arena attack.

Twenty-three people were killed, including the attacker, and 139 were wounded, more than half of them children, when a suicide bomber struck a pop concert in the arena in May last year.

The killer was later revealed as Salman Abedi, 22, from a prominent family in the city’s Libyan asylum seeker community with strong links to the local Didsbury Mosque, where his father sometimes led the call to prayer.

The mosque had hosted sermons where preachers allegedly called for “armed jihad” and the mosque aimed to spread Salafism, a hard-line Islamic school of thought also followed by al-Qaeda and Islamic State.

In his annual report on the operation of the terrorist acts in 2017, Hill praised the police for the “thoroughness and rigour of an investigation” as they hunted for suspects after the attack.

He also revealed the operation “involved collateral damage so as to necessitate the payment of compensation to one arrested person”.

Specifically, a woman was arrested and her property searched because she was living next to a home that was linked to the attack. She was said to have been in the “wrong place at the wrong time”.

“This was a dynamic and urgent investigation involving multiple premises,” Hill said. “There were legitimate public safety issues; Jtac [Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre] had increased the national threat level to critical in the days after the attack.

“However, it is important to avoid the collateral damage [the woman] experienced, and this has been accepted as a learning outcome for SIOs [senior investigating officers] and police teams in future.”

He said “police should consider and reflect upon the community impact of a large-scale investigation, centring as it did on particular areas of Manchester with a large Muslim population.

“Good community policing, as well as good counterterrorism policing, demands that real efforts are made to work within and with local communities, where many blameless residents will have been inconvenienced if not traumatised by the regular appearance of police search and arrest teams on their street or in their home.”…

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  1. R Russell says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Sharia gets closer every day in the UK

  2. mortimer says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    So… the HELL with indigenous Britons and the fear and LOATHING THEY feel !!!

    Max Hill is only concerned with the feelings of Pakistani immigrants who DESPISE the ENGLISH and want them HUMILIATED!

    Max Hill must really HATE THE WORKING CLASS in Briton.

  3. Indiana Tom says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    I totally agree in that Muslim Jihad Terrorists might be upset upon having police investigations occuring in their midst. To sooth relations with Muslim Jihadis the police should focus instead on all those evel English people who are complaining about the terrorist attacks. The jihadis should have free reign to do as they see fit. This will ensure warm relations between the jihadis and the native populace.
    England is amazing.

  4. A_M_Swallow says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    If you cannot do the time do not commit the crime.

    The police need to reflect on the real trauma the British people are suffering as a result of Jihad attacks. A few interrogations of Imams will persuade them to stop encouraging the attacks. The Imams may also reveal the identities of recruiters and bomb makers.

  5. FYI says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    All religions are equal before the Law but islam is more equal than others.. its evil sharia law,its halal animal cruelty and its antisemitism must be tolerated …..otherwise it’s just “racism”

    All people of religious beliefs are equal before the Law but moslems must have more equality than others…otherwise it’s just being “islamophobic”

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm

      Two-tier Theresa will see to it.

  6. A_M_Swallow says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 7:18 pm

    Women rarely organise things in Muslim societies. Imams and Mullahs organise things. Be very suspicious of Muslim clerics on police committees – they are probably there to spy on and sabotage the police.

    • pragmatist says

      Oct 13, 2018 at 6:00 am

      No! Definitely.

  7. gravenimage says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    UK: Police told to “reflect upon the community impact” and “trauma” for Muslims of terror investigation
    …………………

    Now coming: UK: Police told to “reflect upon the community impact” and “trauma” for criminals of criminal investigation.

    Note that there is *no* concern for the trauma of the *actual victims* of this Jihad terror attack.

  8. gravenimage says

    Oct 12, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    And this is no the first time that dhimmi tool Max Hill has “graced” the proverbial pages of Jihad Watch:

    “UK govt’s ‘terror watchdog’: ‘Fundamentally wrong to attach the word terrorism to any of the world religions’”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/uk-govts-terror-watchdog-fundamentally-wrong-to-attach-the-word-terrorism-to-any-of-the-world-religions

    “UK anti-terror chief: UK is ‘integrating,’ not prosecuting, Islamic State returnees”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/10/uk-anti-terror-chief-uk-is-integrating-not-prosecuting-islamic-state-returnees

    There are, sadly, quite a number of other idiotic stories.

  9. pragmatist says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 5:49 am

    How could someone as stupid as this Max Hill character seems to be, be appointed to the post he occupies? Twenty-two innocents were slaughtered, a further one hundred and thirty-nine were injured, and he is worried that those living in the area of the investigation were ‘inconvenienced’, ‘collaterally damaged’ and ‘traumatised’ by the presence and actions of the investigators.

    We are talking here, for goodness sake, of one hundred and sixty-one directly affected victims, with presumably a correspondingly large number of indirectly affected family and friends. Somehow it doesn’t seem to have penetrated Mr. Hill’s thick skull that these people might have been just a little bit ‘inconvenienced’, ‘collaterally damaged’, or ‘traumatised’ by this event. No of course not – his first priority is to protect the sensibilities of and to avoid offence to the local Muslim community. He also revealed that ‘at least one’ Muslim woman was paid compensation for being ‘inconvenienced and traumatised’ during the investigation. I would like to know, there may well be, if there is any mechanism in place to compensate the actual victims of this crime who suffered a damn sight more than inconvenience at the hand of this savage.

    • Anne Smith says

      Oct 13, 2018 at 6:13 am

      Max Hill QC is now to become the Head of the Crown Prosecution Service. More left wing rubbish no doubt will emerge and possibly the CPS will hold back on prosecuting Islamic rapists, thugs and terrorist in case it inconveniences them.

      • StellaSaidSo says

        Oct 13, 2018 at 6:36 am

        It has crossed my mind that this dude may be among the estimated 30% of the British judiciary who have connections with paedophile rings. Head of the CPS is a perfect job for such an individual.

  10. Jayell says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 6:00 am

    “Max Hill QC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, revealed that at least one local Muslim woman had been paid compensation and claimed many had been “inconvenienced if not traumatised” by the manhunt for suspects linked to the Manchester arena attack….”

    23 people were a bit more than just ‘traumatised’ by the muslim attack in Manchester. They were killed. And no doubt a few thousand more have been ‘inconvenienced’ since.
    And quite a few more people have been terminally ‘traumatised’ or otherwise ‘inconvenienced’ on London Bridge and Westminster Bridge, not to mention on the underground on 7/7.
    And over a thousand young girls have been somewhat ‘traumatised’ in Rotherham, and just a few more inTelford, not to mention the rest all over the UK. Perhaps we should consider a bit on compensation for that lot? And perhaps it should come out of the bank accounts of muslims and muslim organisations responsible for introducing this perverted criminal rubbish inot the UK?

    The

    • Anne Smith says

      Oct 13, 2018 at 6:11 am

      I am not sure Mrs May would agree with you We in UK have yet to hear her speak one word on the thousands of rapings and paedophile attacks on young girls. She claims in most of her (rubbish) speeches that she feels strongly about “burning injustice” but not, it seems, in the case of those who are victims of Islamic doctrine and oppression.

      Instead we are treated to homilies on how much these gentlemen have contributed to our country

      • Jayell says

        Oct 13, 2018 at 10:11 am

        I”nstead we are treated to homilies on how much these gentlemen have contributed to our country…”

        They’re about 4-5% of the total population at the moment – hardly very significant numerically, and therefore not likely to make much of an economic contribution even if they averagely active. However, of that number, about 64% (male and female) aren’t economically active and living off the taxpayer through benefit payments. So that reduces the positive things somewhat and pushes up negative.They are also over-represented in the prison system by a factor of between 400-500%, and prisoners can cost up to £40,000 p.a. to maintain in jail, so the figures get grimmer still. Add to that legal, insurance, health and other restitution costs consequential to any muslim atrocity, and that means more than a few £millions on top of the rest. Perhaps May was refering to a ‘contribution’ in strictly minus vales?

        • StellaSaidSo says

          Oct 13, 2018 at 10:21 am

          +1

          Then consider the birth rate, and calculate the numbers in 10 years, 20 years…

        • Jayell says

          Oct 13, 2018 at 4:23 pm

          Muslims are able to breed like locusts in the UK and get away with it at the moment because of the established welfare policy, which was designed to support honest British citizens who respected the rules of British cultural values and were expected to demonstrate a sense of responsibility towards their country and their fellows. It’s taken some time for the bad news to sink in, but I believe at last an increasing number have got the message that we unfortunately now have amongst us a thoroughly nasty, malignant demographic parasitic infection which has become evident in (a) the reduction of valued public services because excessive demand in certain benefit areas is using up all the cash, and (b) a severe shortage of social housing causing indigenous British familes to either not have their own housing or to have to rent inadequste properties from extortionate private landlords – whilst a strangely inordinate number of islamic ‘single mothers’ use up the stock of larger council properties to house to house their herds of wildebeasts. We are now getting calls to limit family allowances strictly to TWO offspring, and I’m sure that there must be some legal grounds to investigate the circumstances of certain of these ‘single parent families’ with a view to recovering maintenance costs from certain identifiable ‘absent fathers’ who seem to have their ‘fingers’ (sic) regularly in several different pies – as the saying goes! Maybe that might do at least something about a certain population explosion.

      • Joss says

        Oct 13, 2018 at 4:46 pm

        Yes, she isn’t nicknamed “Sharia May” without very good reason!

  11. Malcolm Jackson says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 6:31 am

    Gerard Batten must be leader of UKIP.
    UKIP is now totally divided.
    Who does UKIP Bedford support? Gerard Batten or
    We have 2 UKIPs.
    There is the Islam supporting UKIP of Nigel Farage and Steve Crowther, which is happy to see the UK enslaved by Islam.

    Luckily we have the Patriotic UKIP of Gerard Batten which wants to preserve a 1000 years of British History and remain a free, democratic and sovereign Kingdom.

    It is time that UKIP split apart.

    The UKIP of Gerard Batten and the vast majority of UKIP members should be allowed to thrive free of Nigel Farage and Steve Crowther’s Islamic 5th Column and interference.

    The UKIP of Nigel Farage and Steve Crowther should go its own way to wither and die.

  12. Malcolm Jackson says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 6:32 am

    Nigel Farage has sold out to Islam. Thank Goodness Nigel Farage is no longer leader of UKIP.
    Farage told activists that the party was right to oppose Islamic extremism “but if dealing with Islamic fundamentalism becomes a battle between us and the entire religion, I’ll tell you the result: we’ll lose. We will simply lose.”

    Adding: “We absolutely have to get that Muslim majority living in many of our towns and cities on our side, more attuned to Western values than some pretty hardline interpretations of the Qur’an.”

    https://www.rt.com/uk/429477-farage-batten-ukip-robinson/

  13. Baucent says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 7:16 am

    “.. where many blameless residents will have been inconvenienced if not traumatised by the regular appearance of police search and arrest teams on their street or in their home.”…

    Those blameless residents probably need to stand up and drive the jihadist out of their community. Then they wouldn’t have those Police visits.

  14. No Muzzies Here says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 8:19 am

    Theresa May is just preparing for the time when the UK openly becomes the United Caliphate of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Bow down, oh you subjects, and accept your new masters.

  15. Jayell says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 9:28 am

    Hello Anne Smith. I am also in the UK, which is why I’m concerned about all the £millions of UK taxpayers’ money that’s been wasted on clearing up the messes created by muslim crimes and atrocities and then further compounding the insult by paying THEM compensation because of the so-called (non-existent?) ‘trauma’ and ‘inconvenience’ resulting directlyf rom their own collective misdemeanours and atrocious behaviour. Quite frankly, when it comes to matters of ‘trauma’ and ‘inconvenience’, the muslim community (which is NOT in the UK by invitation) owes the wider UK population a not-so-small fortune in compensation which should be paid through its own resources via islamic institutions. There is a precedent for this in the islamic practice of ‘jizzya’, whereby by non-muslims have to pay ‘holy protection money’ for the privilege (sic) of living in an islamic country. Whilst there is just about as much economic justification for the ‘jizzya’ as there is for the sizeable sums of money paid to the likes of Al Capone and the notorious Kray twins (of London’s East End) so that people could run their businesses without ‘mysteriously catching fire’, a cursory survey of the NHS, emergency services, police, court and insurance costs relating to the 7/7, Manchester Arena, Westminster Bridge and London Bridge, etc. etc. etc., atrocities would provide enough evidence to tax UK mosques into bankruptcy. And that’s before we start considering the rights of Mr. Average Joe Public for ‘infringements to liberty’ and ‘hurt feelings’!

  16. Kay says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Why aren’t the claims of unity and solidarity also applied to trauma inflicted. Everyone is impacted by the trauma of the murder of children— some more so than others, and not necessarily those Mohammedans who were not directly involved.
    These aims at not attempting to stop crime are horrible. Mohammedans seem to be becoming a class protected from normal laws. In other areas. Antifa acts to preclude the law and to set up their own. We are moving toward being ruled by thugs.

  17. DHazard says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    Muslims don’t have to feel anything when they are exposed to the fact that their religion and their God support the systematic rape of non-Muslim children. All they have to do is give up Islam. Problem solved. You don’t need a Queen’s Council to hold your hand, but you may have to change your name, move and disown your family.

  18. terry says

    Oct 13, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Muslims are always the eternal victims as they continue to slaughter unbelievers in the name of their cult.

    Pardon me if i’m numb to their eternal whining.

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