I spoke with Anne Marie Waters, leader of the For Britain Movement for the Forgotten Majority, via Skype during For Britain’s recent 2018 conference. Once the odious May regime is gone and sanity is restored to British politics (no, that doesn’t mean Jeremy Corbyn), I’ll address a future For Britain conference in person.
StellaSaidSo says
Good interview, Anne & Robert!
I hope that we will see great strides made by For Britain, and Gerard Batten’s UKIP, as the next UK elections loom closer. The Tories have no-one who is willing to seriously tackle the Islam question, though both BoJo and JRM would at least continue the fight for Brexit. Corbyn would convert to Islam yesterday if he thought he needed to do so to win.
Andy says
Yes, Great Video Robert & Anne! Cheers!
The People’s Vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh11RYjheUY
Savvy Kafir says
Anne Marie Waters and For Britain are exactly what the UK needs. She’s created a dream party, as far as I’m concerned. I wish we had one like it here in the States. Anne Marie is totally hostile to Islam, as all of us should be. She’s the sort of bold, fearless, well-informed leader all Western nations desperately need at this point.
And, contrary to the mainstream media’s depiction of her, she is definitely not a “far-right extremist”. She started on the left, and still is a champion of animal rights, reason, & Enlightenment ideals (as opposed to superstition) — so for a tree-hugging vegetarian heathen like myself, she & her party have special appeal.
She’s created a political party based on honesty, common sense, and a determination to defend essential freedoms, human rights, & animal rights from the life-threatening cancers of Islam & political correctness; a party all Brits should join & support in any way they can. Even if you aren’t British, please donate $$$ to For Britain, and help to spread the word.
https://www.forbritain.uk/
P.S. F*ck Wikipedia for calling For Britain “a minor far-right political party”!
Dawne says
Anyone can register with Wikipedia to correct content. I don’t have an account and am not very IT savvy, but maybe someone who is could change this to “a political party working to remove Islamic extremism from Britain”?
StellaSaidSo says
It won’t matter how many people attempt to correct content on Wikipedia, there are some pages which are off-limits, courtesy of the ubiquitous censors. I suspect this is one of them.
Hal says
The permission to take sex-slaves, in the Koran (and also Islamic law), is limited to women taken as booty in war. Therefore it is incorrect to claim that it applies to what Muslim rape gangs are doing in Britain. Robert Spencer must know this so why does he make the connection?
StellaSaidSo says
Islam divides the world into the House of Islam (already conquered) and the House of War (yet to be conquered). Islam has been in a state of war with the ‘infidel’ for 1400 years. The ‘connection’ Robert makes is correct.
gravenimage says
Hal, the idea that war has to be formally declared on an Infidel nation by some Islamic state is quite mistaken. Nowhere does the Qur’an say this.
As StellaSaidSo notes, pious Muslims consider the entire non-Muslim world to be the “House of War”–hence they can wage violent Jihad here.
What do you think Muslims are doing here when they massacre people?
Norman Moffatt says
Islam is a war with the non-muslim World, this Qur’an verse explains it for you. 8:39. Fight them until there is no more persecution, and religion becomes exclusively for Allah.
Hal says
Listening to the tape again, it seems clear to me that Robert Spencer does indeed regard the Muslim rape gangs as jihadis so his quoting the “captives of the right hand verses” as justification in their minds is appropriate. I am surprised that he does though because I have only seen evidence that shows them as criminals acting out the vicious cultural attitudes that stem from Islam rather than as jihadis.
I think the contempt for both infidels and women plus the permission to have sex with underage girls to be found in the Koran are sufficient to explain their actions. Perhaps some of the perpetrators do consider themselves to be at war with all infidels but it has never come up in court cases as far as I know, and jihadis are usually not shy about telling the kuffar why they do what they do. Evidence has come up about them telling their victims that they did what they did to them because they were infidel whores etc but not because they were at war with Britain and regarded them as booty.
Stella – The idea of Dar al-harb is much exaggerated. It started with the Hanafi school of Islamic Law, ie it doesn’t come from the canonical Islamic scriptures, and from what I can gather is taken more seriously today by counterjihadists than by Muslims.
GI – The Koran is irrelevant regarding declaring war on infidel nations. It has nothing to say either way on the subject. How could it? All decisions about when and how to wage war came from Mohammed. It only became an issue after he died so rules for declaring war were only formalised later in Islamic Law. As I understand it when there is a caliph then he can declare offensive jihad but without one Muslims can only wage defensive jihad (this is why bin Laden claimed his jihad was a response to Western aggression). Perhaps the Muslim gangs regarded themselves as waging a defensive jihad against their host country but I have seen no evidence of that, rather that they were merely criminals.
When Muslims massacre people in the West I think they are carrying out jihad, as you do.
Norman – Then you believe that all Muslims must believe they are at war with the non-Muslim world? I think Robert Spencer would not agree with you. He accepts that there are different interpretations of the Islamic scriptures.
StellaSaidSo says
@ Hal
I don’t think that the idea of Dar al-harb is ‘exaggerated’ at all. Look around you. Western countries are being invaded by hordes of Muslims, who accept benefits from the host countries, and repay this hospitality with acts of violence. I’d say that the concept is taken very seriously by Muslims.
As Mohammed is recorded as having demanded that Persian, Abyssinian, and Byzantine leaders choose between conversion or war, it would appear that the concept does indeed originate in scripture..
Malcolm Jackson says
The only way to stop the Mu-slim conquest of the UK and get a true Brexit is to vote for Gerard Batten’s UKIP..
UKIP can be on a massive winning streak with Gerard Batten as leader. With Gerard Batten running UKIP and Tommy Robinson coming aboard, UKIP could very well win the votes of over 430,000 Sikhs and 1,000.000 Hindus living in the UK. That is not to mention 4 million British Pensioners, and the many millions of non-Muslim voters who are beginning to realise what an evil cult Islam is. Of course, with our votes secret, many Muslims opposed to Islam, would vote for UKIP, as many Muslims voted for Marine Le Pen in France. UKIP and the UK can only be on a winner with Gerard Batten and Tommy Robinson.
Gerard Batten has saved UKIP.
The last thing UKIP needs is the Islam supporter Nigel Farage poking his nose in. Farage and his pal Steve Crowther, virtually wrecked UKIP by pushing UKIP support of Islam.
Good luck to Gerard Batten if he is able to clear Crowther’s Muslim 5th column out of UKIP. If Tommy Robinson becomes a UKIP member, Gerard will have succeeded in defeating Crowther, Farage and Islam.
Hector Archytas says
I am in UKIP near Machester. I came also to the conclusion that Islam purpose is to kill all unbelievers.
Believing that the earth is spheric is being an unbeliever.
Letting them taking over UK or France is giving them the technologies to kill most Hindus and Chinese. It is so not only about our right to exist.
Therefore, doing nothing because of teh freedom of Religion and faith is to be put to an end.
Emilie Green says
at 17:12, “they [the British traitor class like May, Blair, Cameron, Straw, et alia] have made it impossible for you [Anne Marie, Tommy Robinson. and other common-sense-based Britons] to have a platform in a non-violent environment”
Jack Kennedy is credited with the following, though I’m uncertain if it originated with him, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
That applies four-square in today’s British Isles. Certainly elsewhere where no a word of criticism of Islam (the mother lode of bad ideas) will be tolerated, but with particular nastiness in the Isles.
Jayell says
We’ve got to get rid of the rot that’s corrupting the UK establishment, and one of the symptoms of the disease is the now-blatant campaign (yes, there does seem to be an element of co-ordination here) to destroy the culture and identity, and therefore the indigenous people, of the UK. We have seen evidence of this in the very obvious promotion of islam and muslims in the media, the cover-up and attempted whitewash of the grooming gangs, including the infamous series of celebrity witch-hunts that were supposed to be a smoke-screen to divert attention and drag established British society to the level of the rapists, the deliberate denigration of the Christian Church (especially the Roman Catholic church) whilst suppressing all criticism of islam and its adherents, the exxaggerated promotion and celebration of anything convenient that is non-indigenous (e.g, the somewhat pointless celebration of the arrival of the MV Windrush and deliberate ignoring of the negative consequences of this event, which were actually quite numerous), the campaigns drag up the ‘slavery’ issue deliberately as means of denigratingB british history and identity (always conveniently ign oring the fatc that we OUTLAWED slavery 2 centuries ago!) and, most recently, malevolent campaigns to denigrate and insult prominent figures in British history, e.g., Winston Churchill. Deal with that lot, and we have some hope.
StellaSaidSo says
You are right, Jayell, our current dire situation is indeed the result of a co-ordinated effort, on the part of the mega-rich and mega-powerful globalists who want to destroy civilisation as we know it, with all its richness and variety, and replace it with a series of geographical regions administered by unelected bureaucrats under a One World’ totalitarian government. This plan has been in preparation for well over a century, but gained momentum in the 1920s with the confluence of a few particularly insidious ideas and trends, like the Russian Revolution, the Frankfurt School, the Kalergi Plan, and the League of Nations.
mortimer says
Stella, you named the names and the main one: KALERGI.
Question: How can Globalist banksters be ‘SOCIALISTS’ or ‘neo-MARXISTS’ ??? Answer: They can’t. They are manipulating the voters by controlling all information.
Stella is correct. It’s taking place from the top of the economic food-chain and the Left doesn’t even suspect it, so mesmerized are they with their Utopian dreams!
It’s an unholy alliance between Banksters, neo-Marxists and Muslim billionaires.
StellaSaidSo says
Thankyou, Mortimer, it is good to see more people connecting the dots.
Of course the socialism is not for the elite – their lives won’t change. Rather, it is for us common folk, the new ‘lumpen proletariat’. Except for those at the very top of the food-chain, the Left have no idea what is going on under their noses. They are ‘useful idiots’, and will doubtless be culled in large numbers, along with the rest of us in the ‘useless eater’ category, when the depopulation programs get under way.
Maran says
Totally agree, Jayell. We must continue to speak the truth and not allow the lies to stand.
mortimer says
Theresa the Appease-ah has got to go. She doesn’t understand jihad at all and pompously pontificates to those who do understand it perfectly.
How arrogant is that? UK must have a PM who understands that JIHAD is the PRIME DIRECTIVE of Islam which ALL Muslims are morally obligated to conduct in some way or other.
JIHAD is not a mere take-it-or-leave-it OPTION for Muslims, Prime Minister.
StellaSaidSo says
Theresa is a globalist, Mortimer. She supports the EU, and all that it stands for. Those of us who have read the fine print in the foundational documents know what that means.
Elaine says
Miss Theresa, knows exactly what Islam is. You are being too easy on her . She got everyone into this corrupt ideology . She needs to be gone once and for all. When she stands up in front of the world with a hija b on her head and swears Islam is a religion of peace, she is trying to convince herself she is right and if she really cared about the UK, she would admit she is wrong and hand the reigns over to someone who knows how to run a country.
StellaSaidSo says
Believe me, Elaine, I am far from ‘easy’ on Theresa May. However, she is not entirely to blame for Britain’s dire situation. It was Tony Blair who flung open the gates to the invaders.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Every time I see the dear woman my heart melts. She and her party have a mammoth fight ahead, but I don’t think there’s anyone more equipped than her to lead the fight. When Anne talks it’s like hearing my own best conscience. I share her moral outrage and apparent bewilderment over the left’s complicity, her outrage over the muslim rapes of children, the loss of freedom and their land to people who show little or no respect for their way of life. And of course we’re always worried about the next terror attack, who will be killed by the next “disenfranchised” or “mentally ill” muslim for allah? We never know. They’re always “moderate muslims” until they kill us, then they don’t represent islam, you know the story. Anyway, I adore the woman and wish her the best and her new party, too, which I believe may truly be her nation’s last hope. She has the qualities of a great leader, articulate, intelligent, patriotic, dutiful, and moral with an unyielding dedication to what she’s knows is best for her nation and people. She loves her heritage and values freedom. I don’t think of her as “anti-muslim,” I think of her as “pro-freedom” and “pro-British.” How strange that this should be considered controversial in one of the world’s greatest democracies.
Their current leaders have brought them way down the path of ruination, and they clearly have no intention of admitting or rectifying their mistake. This great social injustice has put the spotlight on some very interesting and courageous people, like Anne Waters, and Tommy, Paul Weston, and Pat Condell. Those are the people I admire, because they are good people who respect the truth and have the guts to defend human rights like it was the most important thing on earth, because it is.
From America, we love you! and know that you have many allies across the pond in this war against the tyranny and bigotry of islam.
StellaSaidSo says
Great post, Agostino AP!
mortimer says
UK politicians are not living in reality. They are suppressing factual information about Islam that anyone can verify if they look into.
The most offensive thing the UK elites do is to INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE by pompously PONTIFICATING about Islam … a subject that they have NOT themselves researched.
The elitists pronounce anathemas without having studied the Islamic CORE TEACHINGS.
That is PRESUMPTUOUS.
eduardo odraude says
Toward the end, Robert Spencer said “Throw them out.” I suspect he meant the American phrase “Thorw the bums out,” meaning that the current politicians should be voted out of office. Waters however seemed to take him as urging deportation of Muslims.
CL North says
Eduardo…”throw them out” can mean a lot of different things! Hopefully Robert Spencer reads our comments and may clarify his statement about whom to throw out of the U.K. and elsewhere.
Islam has infiltrated young and old minds alike producing centuries of murder, rape and jihad. It’s a spreading cancer that needs to be eradicated in Western nations! There is no hope for reforming Islam because the unholy Quran prohibits any changes or deletions to its Satanic verses! So-called moderate Muslims have suggested the removal of approximately 100+ violent passages from the Quran and they were not supposed by their Imams, CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Therefore, non-believers must accept the false narratives of “peaceful Islam” and mentally ill Jihadists or be labeled a racist, Islamaphobe!
Civil war and/or throwing out followers of Islam is the only solution to putting the Jihad Genie back in the bottle. These last three years of observing Mad Merkel’s infiltration of economic migrants from predominantly Muslim countries and the chaos it has created makes “throw them out” understandable & merited in light of increased rapes, murders, thefts and other mayhem conducted by military age Muslim males. They are here to conquer with violence and by the womb.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer is correct. Whenever freedom of expression is restricted, debate is impossible and valid concerns cannot be discussed leading to frustration from the disenfranchised.
The disenfranchised have no way to complain but civil disobedience.
Maran says
How do we bring the disenfranchised together? We know that the majority of people agree with us but their voices are not being heard, meanwhile Theresa May continues in total opposition and blatant disregard of the expressed wishes of the British people.
Parliament must act to oust her before she commits us to further slavery under the undemocratic bureaucrats of the EU
Molly Brown says
Americans like myself watch with keen interest at political stunts performed by Tan & Amy in London via YouTube videos. Amy is the older British woman who carried the HRM Park ordinance handbook at Hyde Park and confronted police about Muslims praying openly against HRM Park restrictions this year.
Last month, Tan prayed openly in front of a London mosque while Amy was punched/shoved to the ground by a male passerby. Indigenous citizens of Chemnitz organized a “flash mob” protest that went viral after the stabbing, murder of a German-Cuban citizen who was atttacked by migrants near an ATM machine. Non-violent protests and recorded political stunts get media attention. They tell the world how local, indigenous people (volk) are fed up with double standards and jihad violence! The most powerful images of Chemnitz protests involvied citizens carrying poster size pictures of murdered people by Merkel’s migrants! Don’t wait on your governments to change things in your country. We the people must participate in non-violent protests, flash mobs, and take political action whenever possible. Otherwise civil war is the likely outcome when no opposing voices are heard!
Tan’s political prayer stunt:
https://youtu.be/HqW4qmg0XEs
PRCS says
THAT was interesting.
Tan, as usual, was appropriately provocative.
Wonder if the lady was able to press charges against whomever punched her (hard to tell from the vid who actually did that).
As the Muslims ARE praying on PUBLIC streets, ever more of the “filthy kuffar” need to express their opposition to that by praying right in front of them!
And bring a leashed, black dog, too!
Carol the 1st says
I suspect the word “pray” is about as perverse as the word “religion” when it comes to applying the terms to Islam. Many descriptions make it sound like a “SUPPLICATION SESSION” rather than true prayer which seeks to commune, learn, and encourage moral growth. Muslims do not seem to comprehend SIN properly and thus the focus is instead upon ASKING for things:
Definition of SUPPLICATE:
intransitive verb
: to make a humble entreaty
especially : to pray to God
transitive verb
1 : to ASK humbly and earnestly of
2 : to ASK FOR earnestly and humbly
Aisha complained about Moe telling her that she, as a female, was not to cross his path as he supplicated or it would negate his “prayer”. Looking this up I came across an interesting fact about Friday mosque meetings (the ones that notoriously incite muslim males to go out and attack Christians afterward):
Google: In nearly two-thirds of American mosques, women pray behind partitions or in separate areas, not in the main prayer hall; some mosques do not admit women at all due to the lack of space and the fact that *SOME PRAYERS, SUCH AS THE FRIDAY JUMU’AH, ARE MANDATORY FOR MEN BUT OPTIONAL FOR WOMEN.*
Males of course are deemed to be “superior” and to come first but it certainly sounds like INTENTIONAL drum-beating prologues to violence (as facts bear out) from the ROP.
Walter Sieruk says
Concerning the United Kingdom and the great British intellect John Locke and the tyrannical Islamic regime of Iran ,which has been fittingly nicknamed the “mullah regime ”
it should be known that the actual word “Republic” has on origin the Latin meaning “Of the people” With the mullahs ayatollahs in so much power and even influencing the parliament of this Islamic regime is tyranny is hardly a real republic .Furthermore the ruthless gang of thugs who are the stooges of those Muslim clerics, called the “Revolutionary Guards,” those Islamic State “police” come down hard on the human rights and freedoms of the Iranian people. Therefore the people do have the right to overthrow a tyranny. This reality had even been expressed and described by men of great intelligence .For example the philosopher .John Locke. This is wisdom that mullahs and other villains in power in that Islamic tyranny don’t want the Iranian people to know about or understand
gravenimage says
Video: Anne Marie Waters and Robert Spencer at the For Britain conference 2018
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Excellent! Yes, I hope Robert Spencer can soon speak from Britain.
PRCS says
Ms. Waters notes the evolution of the British definition of Muslims (Asians, then Pakistanis).
Before Twitter banned her, another poster noted, and I supported him, as she wants to “Ban the Burqa”, that burqa and niqab are not the same, that she should make clear that BOTH should be banned, and that both are cultural interpretations of “the veil”.
She disagreed, saying that Muslim women say it’s required.
Of course, some of those Muslim women are lying to her and other are just parroting what they’ve been told all their lives.
As with the term “Asians”, the definition of “burqa” needs to evolve, too.
IMO.
Fishman says
Brits, PLEASE take your country back from the criminals and Islamic apologists that are destroying your society! Immediately implement the following steps to bring the UK back from the brink. 1) leave the EU per the referendum, the people have spoken! 2) Stop all immigration from all Islamic countries,this includes so called refugees, and cancel all current visa applications.3) Find all Muslims who have overstayed their visas and deport them.4) Investigate all Mosques and Islamic Centers for sedition and prosecute when necessary which will be most of the time.4) Imams found guilty,if noncitizens, should be deported.5)Imams that are naturalized citizens should have their citizenship revoked and be deported. 6) British law should be reestablished as the supreme law of the land and all sharia courts of any kind should be closed down. 7) Calls to prayer in the streets or any other public venue is a political act, not a religious one, and should be outlawed.8) All Muslims convicted of crimes, if non citizens,should be deported.
Reclaim your great nation and restore the rule of law before it’s too late and keep Britain british!!