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After NY Times, BBC run Islamic apologetics, “Islamophobia” prof claims Muslims “aren’t given platform in the media”

Nov 22, 2018 11:37 am By Robert Spencer

Imagine wasting your life being an expert on “Islamophobia,” a propaganda term meant to intimidate people into thinking it wrong to oppose jihad terror. In earlier ages, Todd Green would be penning tomes about how opposing the Nazis makes you a bigot who hates all Germans, or opposing the Salem witch trials meant you were soft on the threat of witchcraft. He and other “Islamophobia” “experts” make their living slandering and defaming those who oppose jihad terror, which will only have the effect of enabling more jihad terror. How they can live with themselves, as the body count steadily rises, is beyond me.

More below.

“Dr. Todd Green Speaks on Islamophobia in the United States,” by Brianna Synder, Milligan Stampede, November 21, 2018:

Dr. Todd Green, associate professor of religion at Luther College and nationally recognized expert on Islamophobia, visited Milligan to lecture on the issue. Briana Snyder, staff reporter for The Stampede, sat down with Dr. Green to further discuss this topic, as well as his background….

Snyder: In your own words, what is Islamophobia?

Dr. Green: I define Islamophobia as fear, hostility and hatred of Muslims or Islam that is rooted in racism

What race are Muslims and Islam again? I keep forgetting.

and that manifests itself in discriminatory, exclusionary and violent practices targeting Muslims and those perceived as Muslims….

By that definition, my colleagues and I are not “Islamophobes,” despite Green’s routinely libeling us with this label, as we do not support any violence against Muslims or those perceived as Muslims, and support no discriminatory or exclusionary measures against Muslims, but only reasonable measures to protect people against jihad terror and Sharia oppression. What’s more, I have no fear, hostility, or hatred of Muslims or Islam. There are Islamic tenets that contradict the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, the equality of rights of women, the equality of rights of non-Muslims. There are Islamic tenets enjoining violence against non-Muslims. Doesn’t Todd Green oppose those? If so, is he himself an “Islamophobe”? Or does he support all this violence and oppression?

Snyder: Why should we not ask Muslims to condemn terrorism?

Dr. Green: There are three reasons why we shouldn’t ask Muslims to condemn terrorism. The first is that asking Muslims that question wrongly assumes that Islam is the cause of terrorism. That is a false assumption to make.

Not really. In the first place, terrorists themselves say they are committing their acts of violence because of Islam. A few examples:

“Jihad was a way of life for the Pious Predecessors (Salaf-us-Salih), and the Prophet (SAWS) was a master of the Mujahideen and a model for fortunate inexperienced people. The total number of military excursions which he (SAWS) accompanied was 27. He himself fought in nine of these; namely Badr; Uhud, Al-Muraysi, The Trench, Qurayzah, Khaybar, The Conquest of Makkah, Hunayn and Taif . . . This means that the Messenger of Allah (SAWS) used to go out on military expeditions or send out an army at least every two months.” — Abdullah Azzam, co-founder of al-Qaeda, Join the Caravan, p. 30

“If we follow the rules of interpretation developed from the classical science of Koranic interpretation, it is not possible to condemn terrorism in religious terms. It remains completely true to the classical rules in its evolution of sanctity for its own justification. This is where the secret of its theological strength lies.” — Egyptian scholar Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd

“Many thanks to God, for his kind gesture, and choosing us to perform the act of Jihad for his cause and to defend Islam and Muslims. Therefore, killing you and fighting you, destroying you and terrorizing you, responding back to your attacks, are all considered to be great legitimate duty in our religion.” — Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his fellow 9/11 defendants

“Allah on 480 occasions in the Holy Koran extols Muslims to wage jihad. We only fulfil God’s orders. Only jihad can bring peace to the world.” — Taliban terrorist Baitullah Mehsud

“Jihad, holy fighting in Allah’s course, with full force of numbers and weaponry, is given the utmost importance in Islam….By jihad, Islam is established….By abandoning jihad, may Allah protect us from that, Islam is destroyed, and Muslims go into inferior position, their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligation and duty in Islam on every Muslim.” — Times Square car bomb terrorist Faisal Shahzad

“So step by step I became a religiously devout Muslim, Mujahid — meaning one who participates in jihad.” — Little Rock, Arkansas terrorist murderer Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad

“And now, after mastering the English language, learning how to build explosives, and continuous planning to target the infidel Americans, it is time for Jihad.” — Texas terrorist bomber Khalid Aldawsari

All of these, of course, may be dismissed as “extremists,” although they were also all devout Muslims who were determined to follow their religion properly. One finds the same thing, however, when one turns to the authoritative sources in Sunni Islam, the schools of Sunni jurisprudence (madhahib):

Shafi’i school: A Shafi’i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates about jihad that “the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” It adds a comment by Sheikh Nuh “˜Ali Salman, a Jordanian expert on Islamic jurisprudence: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)…while remaining in their ancestral religions.” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.8).

Of course, there is no caliph today, and hence the oft-repeated claim that Osama et al are waging jihad illegitimately, as no state authority has authorized their jihad. But they explain their actions in terms of defensive jihad, which needs no state authority to call it, and becomes “obligatory for everyone” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.3) if a Muslim land is attacked. The end of the defensive jihad, however, is not peaceful coexistence with non-Muslims as equals: ‘Umdat al-Salik specifies that the warfare against non-Muslims must continue until “the final descent of Jesus.” After that, “nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent” (o9.8).

Hanafi school: A Hanafi manual of Islamic law repeats the same injunctions. It insists that people must be called to embrace Islam before being fought, “because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith.” It emphasizes that jihad must not be waged for economic gain, but solely for religious reasons: from the call to Islam “the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war.”

However, “if the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax [jizya], it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” (Al-Hidayah, II.140)

Maliki school: Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a pioneering historian and philosopher, was also a Maliki legal theorist. In his renowned Muqaddimah, the first work of historical theory, he notes that “in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.” In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.”

Hanbali school: The great medieval theorist of what is commonly known today as radical or fundamentalist Islam, Ibn Taymiyya (Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyya, 1263-1328), was a Hanbali jurist. He directed that “since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and God’s word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought.”

This is also taught by modern-day scholars of Islam. Majid Khadduri was an Iraqi scholar of Islamic law of international renown. In his book War and Peace in the Law of Islam, which was published in 1955 and remains one of the most lucid and illuminating works on the subject, Khadduri says this about jihad: “The state which is regarded as the instrument for universalizing a certain religion must perforce be an ever expanding state. The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God’s law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world….The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state.” (P. 51)

Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad. In his 1994 book The Methodology of Ijtihad, he quotes the twelfth century Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd: “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.” Nyazee concludes: “This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation” of non-Muslims.

Then there are the violent passages in the Qur’an itself, exhorting Muslims to wage war against non-Muslims:

“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)

“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)

“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)

“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)

“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)

“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)

“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)

“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)

“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)

“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)

How have Muslims throughout history understood these passages? They took them as meaning “My jihad is trying to make ends meet. My jihad is getting a great education,” right? Unfortunately, the historical record is not quite so full of laughter and sunshine. Find out how Muslims throughout history have actually understood the Qur’an’s exhortations to warfare in my book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, which you can order here.

To be sure, there are some tolerant verses in the Qur’an as well — see, for example, sura 109. But then in Islamic tradition there are authorities who say that violent passages take precedence over these verses. Muhammad’s earliest biographer, an eighth-century Muslim named Ibn Ishaq, explains the progression of Qur’anic revelation about warfare. First, he explains, Allah allowed Muslims to wage defensive warfare. But that was not Allah’s last word on the circumstances in which Muslims should fight. Ibn Ishaq explains offensive jihad by invoking a Qur’anic verse: “Then God sent down to him: ‘Fight them so that there be no more seduction,’ i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. ‘And the religion is God’s’, i.e. Until God alone is worshipped.”

The Qur’an verse Ibn Ishaq quotes here (2:193) commands much more than defensive warfare: Muslims must fight until “the religion is God’s” — that is, until Allah alone is worshipped. Ibn Ishaq gives no hint that that command died with the seventh century.

The great medieval scholar Ibn Qayyim (1292-1350) also outlines the stages of the Muhammad’s prophetic career: “For thirteen years after the beginning of his Messengership, he called people to God through preaching, without fighting or Jizyah, and was commanded to restrain himself and to practice patience and forbearance. Then he was commanded to migrate, and later permission was given to fight. Then he was commanded to fight those who fought him, and to restrain himself from those who did not make war with him. Later he was commanded to fight the polytheists until God’s religion was fully established.”

In other words, he initially could fight only defensively — only “those who fought him” — but later he could fight the polytheists until Islam was “fully established.” He could fight them even if they didn’t fight him first, and solely because they were not Muslim.

Nor do all contemporary Islamic thinkers believe that that command is a relic of history. According to a 20th century Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh ‘Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid, “at first ‘the fighting’ was forbidden, then it was permitted and after that it was made obligatory.” He also distinguishes two groups Muslims must fight: “(1) against them who start ‘the fighting’ against you (Muslims) . . . (2) and against all those who worship others along with Allah . . . as mentioned in Surat Al-Baqarah (II), Al-Imran (III) and At-Taubah (IX) . . . and other Surahs (Chapters of the Qur’an).” (The Roman numerals after the names of the chapters of the Qur’an are the numbers of the suras: Sheikh ‘Abdullah is referring to Qur’anic verses such as 2:216, 3:157-158, 9:5, and 9:29.)

Most scholars who study terrorism will conclude that a lot of the primary forces driving terrorism are political or social. (Examples include: real or perceived U.S. military occupation or western imperialism, social exclusion/discrimination in Europe or the United States.) Religion might be used as the justifier, but it’s not the cause.

Green’s argument founders on the fact that Islamic terrorism is far older than “real or perceived U.S. military occupation or western imperialism, social exclusion/discrimination in Europe or the United States,” and in fact can be found throughout 1400 years of Islamic history. The proof, in immense detail, is in The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS.

The majority of terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

That isn’t true, either.

The second reason is that asking Muslims to condemn terrorism ignores the many instances in which Muslims do condemn terrorism, and its not hard to find lots of examples of Muslims condemning terrorism (He suggests a simple google search). Third, finally, and most importantly, the reason we shouldn’t ask Muslims to condemn terrorism is because in our obsession with Islam and terrorism/violence, we divert attention away from our own violent past and our own violent complicity today in the world order. You can take every major category of violence that we attribute to ISIS from persecution of religious minorities to slavery to attempted genocide, and you discover that all of those categories apply to our history as well. We project onto Muslims a kind of violence that we assume has nothing to do with us when, in fact, it has everything to do with us, and until we stop being distracted and start coming to terms with our own sins, take the log out of our own eye, as Jesus might have said, we will never be able to figure out terrorism, what drives it, and how to counter it.

Why did these practices end in the free world but not in the Islamic world?

Snyder: Why is it that we don’t often hear Muslims speaking about Islamophobia, but rather members of secular or other religious communities?

Dr. Green: It’s not because Muslims aren’t doing these things. It’s because they aren’t given the platform or the attention in the media in many cases for their voices to be heard….

In the last two days, the New York Times ran two pieces of Islamic apologetics by Muslims. The BBC also ran a piece defending Islam. No platform? That’s ridiculous beyond measure.

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  1. mortimer says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    Dr. Todd Green is clearly insincere or else he would schedule a debate and REFUTE IN PUBLIC the concerns and critiques about Islam raised by ISLAMO-CRITICS.

    The CONCERNS ABOUT ISLAM ARE OBJECTIVE. They are: 1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims. 35. Holy books of Islam contain more calls for violence than all other foundational religious texts.

  2. Diane Harvey says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    “and nationally recognized expert on Islamophobia”

    I wonder if he has a special signet ring and an Official Expert Membership Card for this very, very special designation.

    • Rufolino says

      Nov 23, 2018 at 4:43 am

      “Recognised expert on Islamophobia” ?? Is this a joke ?

  3. mortimer says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    Muslim apologists recently GOT A PLATFORM at the NEW YORK TIMES.

    Whaddya think, GREEN? Does NYT count as a PLATFORM FOR MUSLIMS in your studious opinion or do you need something BETTER?

    Todd Green is clearly an insincere shill and propagandist who works for someone affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    YOOHOO, DR. GREEN !!! DEBATE ROBERT SPENCER or be considered a CONMAN by all intelligent people.

  4. Jaladhi says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    Ha, ha, ha,..”Muslims aren’t given platform in the media”!! What crap!! Muslims have the biggest platform in the media because of their daily terror attacks, murders and rape…

  5. Angemon says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 12:48 pm

    and nationally recognized expert on Islamophobia

    That and 5 bucks get you a coffee at Starbucks…

  6. lisalles says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    Green is a socialist/communist who really needs to move to Pakistan…..if he truely is an expert on islam, good or bad, he needs to live his life in a muslim country for a few years and then come back.

    • James Lincoln says

      Nov 22, 2018 at 5:44 pm

      Correction, he should move to Pakistan and NOT be allowed to return to the United States.

  7. melek-ric says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    “How they can live with themselves, as the body count steadily rises, is beyond me.”

    Todd Green is likely either a crypto-Muslim or so deeply in the pocket of his Saudi paymasters that he might as well be a convert. Given that the rising body count indicates that Islam is winning, which is pleasing to Allah, Green and his ilk are apparently able to quash whatever vestigial feelings of revulsion and regret they may have at the deaths of unbelievers by considering them Kuffar harbi.

    As such they are unavoidable casualties of the ascendancy of Islam as well as the authors of their own fate by having rejected the call to Islam, which has by now been deemed universal by the ulema via modern communications methods. Ignorance of the true religion is no longer an excuse.

  8. jihad3tracker says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    PLEASE — Every reader here take a few minutes from our extended holiday to find an email path to this “educated” idiot, and run his arse through the wringer of reality. If you are very short of time just write an explanatory sentence followed with the URL hot link copied as Robert’s titled post. And be sure the subject line of your email to him is neutral — not demeaning — so it will actually be opened.

  9. Elisha says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 5:48 pm

    Who says money can’t buy love?

  10. FYI says

    Nov 22, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    islamophobia..as defined by Green..

    “I define islamophobia as fear,hostility and hatred of muslims or islam that is rooted in racism”

    islamophobia ..as defined by someone intelligent..

    “A word created by FASCISTS
    And used by COWARDS
    To manipulate MORONS”
    Christopher Hitchens

    How ignorant Dhimmiwit idiots like Green ever get into Academia is a mystery..no wonder the universities and colleges are now centers of manufactured ignorance!

    Those who use the term “islamophobia”,according to someone who was actually intellectually gifted,Mr Hitchens….are fascists,cowards and morons.

  11. gravenimage says

    Nov 23, 2018 at 1:07 am

    After NY Times, BBC run Islamic apologetics, “Islamophobia” prof claims Muslims “aren’t given platform in the media”
    ……………….

    Ludicrous. The media constantly panders to Islam, and gives Muslim Taqiyya artists a platform all the time.

    • Ernie says

      Nov 23, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      “Ludicrous . The media constantly panders to Islam , and gives Muslim Taqiyya artists a platform all the time .” That’s right Gravenimage ; and mister Todd Green is one of these fine Taqiyya artists himself in my opinion . He might not be a muslim himself , but he is lying for the advancement of that evil DEEN . I think this man is just one of those many traitorous opportunists hanging ouround in the academia…….. The money and fame must be really sweet . Disgusting .

      • Ernie says

        Nov 23, 2018 at 3:41 pm

        ” ouround ” should be around of course ; sorry !

  12. Larry A. Singleton says

    Nov 23, 2018 at 2:04 am

    Just posted a comment on Green’s YouTube page:

    “The Fear of Islam: A Conversation with Todd Green”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=R2i8M7DmaJ8

    Wonder if he’ll respond.

    • KWJ says

      Jan 18, 2019 at 10:08 am

      I don’t see your post there so he may have deleted it or it went to his Spam box. I shall comment because his idea that Islamophobia is rooted in xenophobia and racism is bunk. By his definition the first Islamophobes were the Meccans, Muhammad’s own clan, his uncle Talib, then the Jews. Ibn Ishaq spells out what went on and it is the same as today; Muhammad stirring up disharmony in the community, insulting their gods, insulting their ancestors saying they were in the hellfire, and rhe Qur’an says what they were saying to him. Finally, Muhammad says to them “I will bring you slaughter” which he eventually did. His men drew first blood too.

      They were racist or xenophobic as they were of the same race and clan. Today there are Muslims in Iran, Morocco, Egypt, Indonesia who “fear” sharia law and Arabization and it’s not hard to figure out where that push and money is coming from as countries get harsher. Likewise, President Sisi of Egypt who overthrew Muslim Brotherhood Morsi, said, “They would change our culture,” and a politician said,”My daughter can go out alone at night, I don’t want to go backwards.” Women dress as they please there. While Egypt does have blasphemy laws and often the police look the other way when things are done to the Coptic Christians, Sisi recognizes the problem and has to deal with all the MB fanatics.

      Also, ex-Muslims from Islamic countries are being called Islamophobic! Are they racist and xenophobic? That’s preposterous. As far as “hostility,” well, Muslims then should be called secularphobic, Western civilization phobic, Christian phobic, Jewophobic, Hinduphobic, homophobic, ethnophobic, etc., for they have complained about these things for centuries and even preach it within Western countries. Green is as mendacious Muslims who do not take responsibility for the problems and image they create. Obviously an honest Muslim would say something like, “They have free speech laws, it’s no wonder they would be hostile to Islam and sharia law-we are trying to force our laws on them in their own countries,” and things like that. But they don’t do that. To this day I’ve only read and listened to TWO Muslims say of Westerners regarding the mass immigration of Muslims, “How do you think they feel?” TWO! A Saudi woman and a young Egyptian.

      The American mainstream media gives no voice to ex-Muslims since that would screw up the dishonest narrative.

      Muslims get tons of newspaper time from the Washington Post, Huffington Post, New York Times to my own state’s newspapers. That is another preposterous thing Green said, as Robert pointed. Also, in England Muslim organizations have condemned terrorism yet how many mosques have had terrorist or terrorist supporters as members? In England some have stocked weapons and even trained them to fight in Afghanistan-that mosque the British drove a van into some Muslims was a case of that.

      Green is repeating what British Muslim Sadakat Kadri has said in his book that Theodore Darymple reviewed…about the root of Islamophobia, that “many of its assumptions are just xenophobia and racism repackaged.” Again, that doesn’t make sense for the people living in Islamic countries who don’t like Islam…they don’t have a fear of strangers or foreigners regarding their own people.

      Darymple notes that in Britain, neither Sikhism nor Hinduism has evoked anything like the same reaction as Islam.

      Sadakat Kadri also says, “Discriminatory, exclusionary and violent practices targeting Muslims and perceived Muslims.” Practices or incidents? To them exclusionary is not letting them do everything they want to do such as sharia law practices.

      Todd Green also remarks about “professional Islamophobes” which CAIR considers Robert one. How are these people different than Green writing his books and giving speeches? He’s a professional Islamoapologist and propagandist then.

      It is Muslims who need to confront their own history and current issues due to Islam and their own faults. Since many Muslims go on about what we did with Indians and slaves yet not mention their own slavery trade and imperialism, it is they who must admit these things…we’ve done enough of that. It doesn’t seem like Arabs have learned anything about the Barbary Pirates/Barbary Wars either.

      Green goes around to colleges. The dishonesty and lack of original thinking is a sad commentary on learning and knowledge and how it has devolved. It is the opposite of everything my teachers told us…to strive for knowledge, and as a professor of Philosophy of Education said to us, knowledge is understanding the nature of things; that you can’t really know a tree without understanding it’s nature-what it’s all about. Thus, you can’t really understand Islam nor terrorism without understanding the nature of Islam. Also a problem is the lack of logical and evidentiary thinking. Green exhibits none of this. He makes absolute statements leaving out examples that defy his statements. He is perpetuating feeble and narrow thinking-another scourge on education. He is also dismissing ex-Muslims and lax Muslims. Perhaps he’s just yet another paid liar. To that I say, once you sell your soul to the devil, you’re not getting it back. Maybe if you repent and admit your lack of integrity, you can redeem yourself somewhat. I’m not religious but it’s an apt metaphor. If he already converted to Islam, he’ll get Paradise for working for Allah (and who is paying him). Watch him talk on video…he has odd facial expressions.

  13. dan christensen says

    Nov 23, 2018 at 2:57 am

    So after 1400 years of constant hostility and warfare, islam is suddenly turned into a religion of peace and love.
    With so many muslims drawing money from christians in the west, it is natural that the muslims look at christians with more benevolence and try to hide their hatred and inferiority complexes.
    After all, you are a bad shortsighted farmer, if you kick the cows you are milking. As long as the cows do not understand that somebody is stealing their milk, they acquiesce – dumb animals.
    Billions of dollars are every year transferred (much of it illegally) from west to east. Indeed an advanced development aid.
    That is christianiphobia.

  14. infidel says

    Nov 23, 2018 at 7:59 am

    How much petro dollars does this GREEN WORM suck in to speak like this??

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