‘The religion of Islam cannot be connected with any form of violent acts.”
Unfortunately, Islamic jihadists around the world keep connecting them.
“ISIS may draw some of their justification from the religion of Islam. That does not make it a form of Islam.”
Odd statement. Who within Islam has the authority to determine what is and is not a form of Islam? And in any case, the authoritative sources in Sunni Islam, the schools of Sunni jurisprudence (madhahib), all teach the necessity of waging war against unbelievers:
Shafi’i school: A Shafi’i manual of Islamic law that was certified in 1991 by the clerics at Al-Azhar University, one of the leading authorities in the Islamic world, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy, stipulates about jihad that “the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax.” It adds a comment by Sheikh Nuh “˜Ali Salman, a Jordanian expert on Islamic jurisprudence: the caliph wages this war only “provided that he has first invited [Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians] to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya)…while remaining in their ancestral religions.” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.8).
Of course, there is no caliph today, and hence the oft-repeated claim that Osama et al are waging jihad illegitimately, as no state authority has authorized their jihad. But they explain their actions in terms of defensive jihad, which needs no state authority to call it, and becomes “obligatory for everyone” (‘Umdat al-Salik, o9.3) if a Muslim land is attacked. The end of the defensive jihad, however, is not peaceful coexistence with non-Muslims as equals: ‘Umdat al-Salik specifies that the warfare against non-Muslims must continue until “the final descent of Jesus.” After that, “nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent” (o9.8).
Hanafi school: A Hanafi manual of Islamic law repeats the same injunctions. It insists that people must be called to embrace Islam before being fought, “because the Prophet so instructed his commanders, directing them to call the infidels to the faith.” It emphasizes that jihad must not be waged for economic gain, but solely for religious reasons: from the call to Islam “the people will hence perceive that they are attacked for the sake of religion, and not for the sake of taking their property, or making slaves of their children, and on this consideration it is possible that they may be induced to agree to the call, in order to save themselves from the troubles of war.”
However, “if the infidels, upon receiving the call, neither consent to it nor agree to pay capitation tax [jizya], it is then incumbent on the Muslims to call upon God for assistance, and to make war upon them, because God is the assistant of those who serve Him, and the destroyer of His enemies, the infidels, and it is necessary to implore His aid upon every occasion; the Prophet, moreover, commands us so to do.” (Al-Hidayah, II.140)
Maliki school: Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), a pioneering historian and philosopher, was also a Maliki legal theorist. In his renowned Muqaddimah, the first work of historical theory, he notes that “in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force.” In Islam, the person in charge of religious affairs is concerned with “power politics,” because Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.”
Hanbali school: The great medieval theorist of what is commonly known today as radical or fundamentalist Islam, Ibn Taymiyya (Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyya, 1263-1328), was a Hanbali jurist. He directed that “since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and God’s word is uppermost, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought.”
This is also taught by modern-day scholars of Islam. Majid Khadduri was an Iraqi scholar of Islamic law of international renown. In his book War and Peace in the Law of Islam, which was published in 1955 and remains one of the most lucid and illuminating works on the subject, Khadduri says this about jihad:
The state which is regarded as the instrument for universalizing a certain religion must perforce be an ever expanding state. The Islamic state, whose principal function was to put God’s law into practice, sought to establish Islam as the dominant reigning ideology over the entire world….The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state. (P. 51)
Imran Ahsan Khan Nyazee, Assistant Professor on the Faculty of Shari’ah and Law of the International Islamic University in Islamabad. In his 1994 book The Methodology of Ijtihad, he quotes the twelfth century Maliki jurist Ibn Rushd: “Muslim jurists agreed that the purpose of fighting with the People of the Book…is one of two things: it is either their conversion to Islam or the payment of jizyah.” Nyazee concludes: “This leaves no doubt that the primary goal of the Muslim community, in the eyes of its jurists, is to spread the word of Allah through jihad, and the option of poll-tax [jizya] is to be exercised only after subjugation” of non-Muslims.
In light of all this, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that Adel Salman is simply not being honest.
“‘Islam cannot be associated with terrorism’: Muslim leader fires back and denies there’s a link between barbaric attacks and religion,” by Stephen Johnson, Daily Mail Australia, November 14, 2018:
A Muslim leader has slammed a talkback radio host for suggesting there’s a link between radical Islam and terrorism.
Melbourne radio 3AW broadcaster Neil Mitchell had suggested an extreme interpretation of Islam had inspired Somali-born terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali’s Friday afternoon knife rampage on Bourke Street.
‘I certainly wouldn’t connect it to Islam. But radical Islam, yes. Obviously,’ Mitchell told his listeners.
Islamic Council of Victoria vice-president Adel Salman took exception to that statement.
‘The problem is Neil, when you call it radical Islam, you’re basically saying that the religion of Islam, there are different versions and there is one particular version that we all have a problem with,’ he said this week.
‘I don’t accept that premise. Islam as a religion cannot be associated with these forms of criminal acts.’
Mr Salman, who is also the Sunni-dominated group’s media spokesman, also suggested it was wrong to draw a link between Islam and ISIS, after Mitchell claimed ‘radical Christianity’ was linked to a ‘perversion’ of religion.
‘The religion of Islam cannot be connected with any form of violent acts,’ Mr Salman said.
‘That is just a nonsense from our perspective.
‘ISIS may draw some of their justification from the religion of Islam. That does not make it a form of Islam.’…
Peter Buckley says
Unfortunately for this clown, the world’s largest school of Sunni Islam, Al Azhar University in Cairo, disagrees. They have publicly admitted that nothing IS have been doing can be called “unIslamic”, and have refused to denounce the terrorists:
https://www.meforum.org/blogs/december-2015/al-azhar-can-t-denounce-isis-as-un-islamic-even-if
Does Adel Salman know this? Almost certainly not, but nobody is beyond education. I would recommend “tweeting” or “facebooking” (or any other means of educating this delusional, some of the following statements by muslims in Arabic:
Dr. Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Sheikh and Grand Imam of Al Azhar — and thus Egypt’s foremost authority on all things Islamic — explains why Al Azhar refuses to issue a formal statement denouncing the Islamic State of lapsing into a state of kufr, that is, of becoming un-Islamic, “infidel.”
https://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/852355
Another leading cleric at Al Azhar, Sheikh Muhammad Abdullah Nasr, also explains why IS cannot be called “unIslamic”:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1055261097823826&id=791586997524572&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fdr.nabilfayad2%2Fvideos%2F1055261097823826%2F&_rdr
Then there’s yet another spokesman for Al Azhar, Abbas Showman, saying the same thing:
https://www.vetogate.com/1374000
The list of leading clerics supporting terrorists is endless, usually supported by quoting from the “holy book”.
I am proud to say I have sent these and similar to many muslims over the years, many of whom have now left Islam , out of shame. See how easy it is?
Phil Copson says
“….Does Adel Salman know this? Almost certainly not,….”
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You’re being too kind – of course he knows it ! He entirely approves of islam being spread by any means possible, but doesn’t want to be associated too closely with it’s methods.
It’s exactly the same kind of “double-think” as exemplified by those who claim that Hitler didn’t really kill 6 million Jews, Corbyn’s love of Lenin and boot-licking of Gerry Adams, or Diane Abbott and John McDonnell’s open adulation of Mao Tse-Tung etc, which in translation means – “I haven’t got any problem with six million Jews / 3000 Irish / seven million Ukrainians/ 80 million Chinese etc, having been murdered, but I just don’t want you to know that about me….”
Jayell says
Did you mention Diane Abbott along with Corbyn, Gerry Adams, John McDonnell and Mao Tse-Tung? But the last four of those apparently had functioning intellects of some sort!
gravenimage says
I agree with Phil–Adel Salman is not a naif; he is a lying Taqiyya artist.
Jayell says
Suffice it to say that anyone who seriously believes that there is no link between islam and violence (or criminal violence, as we should say these days) has not read the Qur’an properly or at all, or/and knows nothing about the career of Mohammed, or/and suffers from some curiously selective form of amnesia, or/and suffers from some form of learning difficulty. Either any/all of that lot, or they’re lying through their teeth.
J D S says
So all those 1400 years, like Robert writes about in his new book, was all offensive and what’s going on today is defensive….
Offensive…Defensive…makes no diff it’s jihad against those who do not follow their barbarian teachings. Islam must go..Get started Mr. Government or join them. There’s the choices.
traci94 says
OMG! The lies, the lies!! I’m just basically at a loss for words.
balam says
‘Religion of Islam can not be associated with any kind of violence’ Just as PIG can not be associated with any kind of PORK PRODUCTS. How true though!!!! .
mortimer says
If Islam were a religion of peace, then no one would have to repeat every day that it is a religion of peace.
No Buddhists are leading campaign to convince the world that Islam is a religion of peace, because we all see that.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
About 50 people are killed in an average of 3 to 10 deadly jihad attacks every single day of the year.
One person has been killed by ISLAMIC JIHAD every three minutes since Mohammed began his raids 1400 years ago.
That is the definition of a RELIGION OF WARFARE against the disbelievers.
gravenimage says
So true, Mortimer. Muslims “protest too much”.
No Fear says
LOL!
Michael Copeland says
“Using deception to mask intended goals”, remember, is recommended in the Muslim Brotherhood’s “Explanatory Memorandum”.
islamic text says
… Islam and the Quran actually endorse lying and deceit. After all, Allah is the greatest of deceivers. Can you image a religious belief and holy book that promotes lying and deceit and actually gives it a name …Taqiyya? He forgot to mention the Quran is bipolar, which actually gives legitimacy to the outright lying. Therefore Islam can be considered both the religion of peace and the religion of death, violence and destruction. Islam has 1.6 billion followers….hard to fathom? Thankfully, most of these followers are passive, reformists or just plain ignorant of the religion and ideology they subscribe to….
o After 1400 years of political Islam, most Muslims are unaware of the 270/300 million deaths caused by Islam and they are completely unrepentant. .! There is no limit to the lies and hypocrisy of Muslims whether he is from the bottom rung of the society or from the very top such as this mufti from Al Azhar!!
mortimer says
Adel Salman is conducting VERBAL JIHAD when he LIES and DECEIVES about jihad.
traci94 says
OK, I said I was at a loss for words, but I’ve found some now. I just have to say that I believe that NOTHING good has ever come out of Islam (except those who come to their senses and reject it), and I honestly believe it is satanic/demonic. In John 8:44. Jesus calls the devil a murderer and the father of lies; it seems like most Muslims can not accept and abide by truth, deception is like second nature to them. And it is infuriating to have these people proclaiming lies right to our faces, thinking if they say it long enough and passionately enough that in spite of what we actually see and hear with our own eyes and ears, we will believe their falsehoods instead. And how dare they make moral equivalences with Christianity and other religions. Nothing comes close, doesn’t even touch what Islam has done and is doing in the world.
Anjuli Pandavar says
You’re too late, Adel Salman, sorry. The cat’s out of the bag. Even many who are not yet informed of or convinced about the barbaric grotesque violence of your religion, now know that there’s something seriously wrong with Islam. Blind unquestioned non-Muslim praise for Islam is increasingly left to hardcore dhimmis and even they are now finding it tough going, thanks to books like “The History of Jihad from Muhammad to ISIS”, “Feindliche Übernahme”, “Sword and Scimitar” and “Waarover men niet Spreekt” and our propensity to speak freely and debate. Books like these fly off the shelves because there’s a desperate hunger to know. Your BS has failed. Even jihad’s slickest BS-ers, like Maajid Nawaz and Mehdi Hassan, are finding themselves more and more cornered. Low-level “ambassadors” like Robert Azzi and Dalia Mogahed, so ably dismantled here on JW by Hugh Fitzgerald, are little more than fools, and yet they keep coming.
This is the biggest propaganda mistake you Muslims made. You did not reckon with a free people (but then, you don’t know any better, do you?). We are generous and compassionate to a fault, but at the end of the day, we do actually think for ourselves, we do actually value truth over lies, and we do actually seek second opinions. In short, we are not simply believers. We do not tend to see any particular source of information as its exclusive source and we do not take the first speaker to have said the last word. We are especially disinclined to defer to anyone who claims authority. So you see, Adel Salman, the kind of sheep-like response you get from a khutbah congregation you are unlikely to get from a free people. In the beginning, while we know nothing, you might think you got us because we went away nodding and saying thank you. True, there are stupid or unstable people everywhere, and you’ll even get the odd convert to Islam. But the rest of us will be back with questions that you cannot answer. And then you’re stumped.
The reason you’re stumped is because you’re not accustomed to people considering what you say and needing to be convinced. You’re only accustomed to saying it and being slavishly believed. You’re not equipped to deal with people who think for themselves, and especially people who neither fear you nor defer to you. We are neither mindless Muslims nor cowed dhimmis and no Islamic apologist, especially no Muslim Islamic apologist, can deal with that.
No doubt, jihad can and probably will do enormous damage to the world, but ultimately, you will not prevail because for the first time in your miserable 1400-year history, in your supreme arrogance and ignorance, you’ve dared to take on an entire free people. I’m sorry to break it to you, my boy, but even Allah knows nothing about how the free mind works. You are completely out of your depth here, as shown by your imagining that all you needed to do was buy a few Presidents and Prime Ministers, Chancellors and professors, media talking heads, police and politicians, the odd judge and a Pope, and the whole free world would simply fall in line behind them — wrong! That’s how things work in the House of Islam. This is the House of Freedom, our house, and you’ve overstayed your welcome.
James Lincoln says
Anjuli Pandavar,
Thank you for one of the most uplifting posts that I’ve ever read at Jihad Watch!
I only hope and pray that you are proven correct.
gravenimage says
Yes–I do believe that more in the West are starting to wake up to the threat of Islam.
balam says
Beautiful response ,Anjuli. Thanks!!
Anjuli Pandavar says
Thank you all for your kind words.
Rarely says
And the desert can’t be related to sand. After all here and there oases exist.
Gene says
“Islam cannot be connected with any form of violent acts”
Because if you disagree, Muslims will kill you and your family.
dan christensen says
But Islam can be connected with many forms of violent words. Just read the koran – there are tons of them bad words in that subtle publication.
According to the pope, evil words are a form of terrorism, because violent words kill like a knife.
Consequently the pope says two opposite things; islam is a religion of love and peace islam is terrorism as its holy scriptures contains many violent words that kill like a knife.
Papal logic is divinely illogical; maybe he is too far removed in the clouds from the uncomprehending sinners.
FYI says
“Violence is the heart of islam”
Ayatollah Yazidi
Ah! but that’s just the shias ,right?
Does salman not know his ‘holy’ koran?
Did he miss the news….for the past 1,400 years… of Godless islamic savagery?
Did he miss the bit about his “prophet” muhammad?
“I have been victorious through TERROR”
Bukhari 4:52:220
And Perfect Mo would know{Abu Dawud 4390};he was a mass-murderer.
isis are doing PRECISELY that:following muhammed’s murderous and immoral example and the Commandment-of-God violating teachings of the ‘holy’ koran.And like most fanatical muslims they wrongly imagine a great reward in paradise awaits them for…doing EVIL!
Why should muslims bother obeying God’s official Exodus 20 laws when their deceiver-god allah tells them they can be rewarded for breaking them!
muslims are taught to follow Perfect muhammed’s murderous and immoral Sunnah or example…
These apologists for the evil of islam have no place in Australia or the West.They belong to the religion of antiChrist:nothing but hate for non muslims{Al Walaa wal Baraa} and endless excuses for the murderous evil they do in the name of their false god{“allah the best of deceivers” k3;54}with his false “prophet” muhamed and their false scripture.
Michel Copeland says
“Battle, animosity and hatred“ directed from the Muslim to the infidel “is the foundation of our religion.”
Osama bin Laden, The Al Qaeda Reader
“The Management of Savagery” – title of Islamic State handbook
“Islam says: kill all of the unbelievers as they would kill you all.”
Ayatollah Khomeini, Logans Warning.
Norger says
“Melbourne radio 3AW broadcaster Neil Mitchell had suggested an extreme interpretation of Islam had inspired Somali-born terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali’s Friday afternoon knife rampage on Bourke Street.”
The broadcaster tried to dodge the obvious question of whether terrorism can, is (and for 1400 years has been) justified based on Islamic theology, by suggesting the terrorist was somehow hypnotized by that dastardly “extreme” Islam found on the internet. That wasn’t dhimmi enough for Mr. Salman. And since Mr. Salman is saying that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam, my question for him is: what’s the difference between Saudi Islam and ISIS Islam? Or do the Saudis, quite literally at the heart of the Muslim world, likewise have nothing to do with Islam? Mr. Salman and his ilk are such utterly shameless liars.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer wrote: “Adel Salman is simply not being honest.”
No, he is not being honest … he knows what the Islamic source texts say and what Sharia law says about jihad.
Robert Spencer’s book The History of Jihad is proof that MAINSTREAM Islam (representing over 90% of Muslims) has ALWAYS understood jihad as a communal duty and that is NEVER obsolete or ended.
Every Muslim is expected to support and conduct jihad in his/her own way.
ALL MUSLIMS conduct VERBAL JIHAD when the deceive the Kafirs about the meaning, motive and methods of jihad.
Adel Salman is conducting VERBAL JIHAD here by lying about jihad.
Mirren10 says
”‘ISIS may draw some of their justification from the religion of Islam. That does not make it a form of Islam.’…”
OK, Salman , so tell us *what* justification exactly ISIS draws from islam. Nah, don’t bother, we already know.
If there was a violent Christian group murdering and crucifying (which of course there isn’t), where could they draw their justification from the New Testament ? Nowhere, of course.
See the difference, Salman ?
gravenimage says
+1
islamic text says
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
the first biography of Muhammad, by the the eighth century devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, several times ordered the murders of people who have insulted him. you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
List of 43 Incidents When Mohammed Ordered or Supported KILLING
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by mohammed
ACCOUNT OF MOHAMMED’S VIGILANTE MURDERS
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Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 -900 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
[Asma Bint Marwan, a contemporary Muhammad in Medina. She was a critic of Muhammad and his Jihadists. You can find out what happened to her in the Hadith of Ibn Ishaq:
The fate of Asma Bint Marwan, Ishaq (p. 676):
“‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
So it goes, that the critics of Islam are dispatched, and goats are still butting heads. I can only think of Theo Van Gogh, or Charlie Hebdo, or any of a number of countless critics who have disappeared into the abyss of history.
Remember Obama in his 2012 UN speech: “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”.
islamic text says
Mohammed ordered the brutal, sadistic killing of Umm Qirfa, “a very old woman” by tying her legs with a
rope attached to two camels driven in opposite directions thus tearing her body (Ibn Ishak, pp.664-665).
Umm Qirfa was torn limb from limb by four camels (Rodinson, p.248). (Mortimer)
What’s the issue? Don’t you people have any respect for precedent??!! The followers of Mr. Mo. were simply following past example:
Ibn Ishaq, the first authentic biographer of Muhammad gives us the details in his Sirat Rasul Allah:
Zayd B. Haritha’s raid on Banu Fazara and the Death of Umm Qirfa
Zayd also raided Wadi-l-Qurra where he met Banu Fazara and some of his companions were killed; he himself carried wounded from the field. Ward b. Amr b. Madash one of B. Sad b. Hudhayl was killed by one of B. Badr whose name Sa’d b. Hudhaym. When Zayd came he swore that he would use no ablution until he raided B. Fazara; and when he recovered from his wounds the apostle sent him against them with a force. He fought them in Wadi-al-Qura and killed some of them. Qays b. al-Musahhar al-Yamuri killed Mas’ada b. Hakama b. Malik b. Hudhayfa b. Badr and Umm Qirfa Fatima was taken prisoner. She was a very old woman, wife of Malik. Her daughter and Abdulla b. Mas’ada were also taken. Zaid ordered Qays b al-Musahhar to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly.
Ibn Ishaq 980
“And he killed her cruelly”. The cruel method used by the holy warriors of Muhammad to kill Umm Qirfa is described in Al-Tabari:
“By putting a rope into her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two….”[1]
Allah’s Messenger sent Zayd to Wadi Qura, where he encountered the Banu Fazarah. Some of his Companions were killed, and Zayd was carried away wounded. Ward was slain by the Banu Badr. When Zayd returned, he vowed that no washing should touch his head until he had raided the Fazarah. After he recovered, Muhammad sent him with an army against the Fazarah settlement. He met them in Qura and inflicted casualties on them and took Umm Qirfah prisoner. He also took one of Umm’s daughters and Abdallah bin Mas’adah prisoner. Zyad bin Harithah ordered Qays to kill Umm, and he killed her cruelly. He tied each of her legs with a rope and tied the ropes to two camels, and they split her in two.
This is yet another reminder and example of wisdom of the Christian man , Roger Williams, who was the founder of America’s State of Rhode Island. For he wisely wrote “That religion cannot be true which need instruments of violence to uphold it.”
Anywhere in the world there are moslems; there is trouble
[Muhammad on another occasion cried out, “Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?” One of his followers, Umayr ibn Adi, went to her house that night, where he found her sleeping next to her children. The youngest, a nursing babe, was in her arms. But that didn’t stop Umayr from murdering her and the baby as well. Muhammad commended him: “You have done a great service to Allah and His Messenger, Umayr!” (Ibn Ishaq, 674-676)]
Mohammden lame excuses for committing horrific crimes:
Umm Qirfa attacked first so it was in self defense that she and her army were taken down Zaid bin Harith went on a trading expedition towards Syria and with him was the merchandise for the Companions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). While he was near Wadi’l Qura he met a party from the Tribe of Fazara of Banu Badr. They attacked him and his companions and snatched all that was with them (of merchandise).” (Sirat Halabiyya 2/192)
Questions: Allah is not merciful , mohd and his allah retaliating. Allah is not all knowing, allah did not know Zaid cruel method of barbarity. There is no any example pagan used this cruel method.Jesus Christ said , “Love your enemy”did not promote retaliation.
The answer is simple; Muhammad could not tolerate a woman enjoying a leadership role in any society,
this much about his personal views towards Pagan women is made clear in Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219.
[2] This old woman became a target for this very reason and as some sources attest, Muhammad had ordered his people to display the old woman’s decapitated head throughout the streets of Medina.
[3] This was meant as a lesson to the Arabs and their forthcoming generations that a woman should never hold a high position in society. Unbelievable brutality by MOHAMMAD
TruthAlways6 years ago
Which is worst, the killing of frail elderly woman or sexual weening of Muhammad’s infant grandson? Prophet Muhammad HAD played with his grandson’s penis, kissed it and sucked it. Folks, believe this, it is all in the Hadiths. It’s all there.
Muhammad asked: “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” One of the Muslims, Muhammad bin Maslama answered, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” When Muhammad said that he would, Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab).” Muhammad responded: “You may say it.” Muhammad bin Maslama duly lied to Ka’b, luring him into his trap, and murdered him. (Sahih Bukhari, volume 5, book 59, number 369)
Recounts the murder of a poet, Ka’b bin al-Ashraf, at Mohamed’s insistence. The men who volunteered for the assassination used dishonesty and lies to gain Ka’b’s trust, pretending that they had turned against Mohamed. This drew the victim out of his fortress, whereupon he was brutally slaughtered despite putting up a ferocious struggle for his life.
Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it.”
– Hadith Bukhari 5.59.369
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5. http://www.justislam.co.uk/images/Ibn%20Ishaq%20-%20Sirat%20Rasul%20Allah.pdf
Muhammad says there is to be no punishment for murdering someone who insults him
For example, in Sunan Abu-Dawud, a canonical hadith collection:
Book 38, Number 4348:
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas [a companion of Muhammad]:
A blind man had a slave-mother [a slave who bore children for him] who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He [the blind man] forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he [the blind man] took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace be upon him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.
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‘A’isha reported that Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) cut off the hand of a thief for a quarter of a dinar rid upwards.
Sahih Muslim 1684a, Book 29, Hadith 1 USC-MSA web Book 17, Hadith 4175
Muhammad in his Quran commands that the hands of male or female thieves should be cut off (Sura 5:38).
Muhammad in his Quran commands death or the cutting off of hands and feet for fighting and corrupting the land (Sura 5:33).
Between 622 and 626, mohd conquered these Jewish tribes in Medina , and killed 3000 men
• Muhammad amputated arms (Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 81, Number 787),
• Tortured and killed unbelievers: “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, ‘If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, ‘By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.” (Al-Tabari, vol. 7, p. 133; cf. Ibn Ishaq 387)
• Perfect mo was happy enough to commit serial adultery himself and he stoned women for this sin {muslim 4206}which he himself revelled in:the old hypocrite!
• Actually Mohammedans killed a man named bin akktal in the kaba.
• Mohammed tortured people and rape
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Muhammad also personally beheaded the men of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe. “Then they [the Jewish Qurayzah tribe] surrendered, and the apostle [Muhammad] confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. Al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka’b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900.” (Ibn Ishaq 690)
Is it the deeply spiritual value of putting hot coals on a vicitims chest
When the Muslims attacked the Jews at the Arabian oasis of Khaybar, a Jewish leader of Khaybar, Kinana bin al-Rabi, was brought before Muhammad; Kinana was supposed to have been entrusted with the treasure of one of the Jewish tribes of Arabia, the Banu Nadir. Kinana denied knowing where this treasure was, but Muhammad pressed him: “Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?” Kinana said yes, that he did know that. Some of the treasure was found. To find the rest, Muhammad gave orders concerning Kinana: “Torture him until you extract what he has.” One of the Muslims built a fire on Kinana’s chest, but Kinana would not give up his secret. When he was at the point of death, one of the Muslims beheaded him. (Ibn Ishaq 511-515)
[Mohammed said: “Torture him until you extract what he has.”So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.” (Bukhari)
The “beautiful pattern” of the “perfect man”.
DHazard says Apr 4, 2018 at 6:08 pm
“Torture him until you extract what he has.” One of the Muslims built a fire on Kinana’s chest, but Kinana would not give up his secret. When he was at the point of death, one of the Muslims beheaded him.” (Ibn Ishaq 511-515)
These are the unsanitized words of a greedy, violent, heartless man as well as the immediate c compliance with his wishes by his followers.
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After the Messenger of God conquered al-Qamus, the fortress of Ibn Abi al-Huqyaq, Safiyyah bt. Huyayy b. Akhtab was brought to him, and another woman with her.Bilal brings Safiyah and her sister-in-law to Muhammad so he can choose one of them for the night while the “Mercy of Allah” PBUH had just finished torturing Kinana to death. Upon seeing her brother’s slain body, Kinana’s young sister becomes hysterical.
The Mercy of Allah slaps her face and says, “Take this she-devil away from me.” That she-devil’s offence was to cry out upon seeing her brother’s corpse. Then this Ensaane Kaamel (perfect human) rebukes Bilal and says, “Have you no compassion, Bilal, when you brought these two women past their dead husband and brother?” she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of allah had chosen her for himself.”
[Bilal, who was the one who brought them, led them past some of the slain Jews. When the woman who was with Safiyyah saw them, she cried out, struck her face, and poured dust on her head. When the Messenger of God saw her, he said, “Take this she-devil away from me!” she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of allah had chosen her for himself.”]
Adbollah one of the 42 scribes renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
Your own core source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man
We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad also took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed, according to core Islamic texts.
The following video begins with the words “Dear Muslim,” spoken by a former Muslim who goes by the moniker “Brother Ismaa’eel.” As you will see, Brother Ismaa’eel, who is fluent in Arabic and English, displays and very clearly explains in this video the primary Islamic source texts where
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Qur’an 3:151, 33:26 reveald at Muhammad’s massacre of Banu Quraizah, 7:3-4, 59:2, 8:12-13, 59-60
Muslims who BETRAY (to Q5:33) mafia godfather 47:4, 8:17, 9:14-5 allah are APOSTATES form evil ISSlam
-> 4:89 “SLAY them wherever ye find them”
The peaceful prophet who wouldn’t harm a fly, killing people himself
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Many people believe Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was a righteous and peaceful person. The average person today (ie: one who hasn’t really read the Quran for themselves or looked into other acceptable Islamic sources) ignorantly believes that “nowhere in the Quran” did Allah command Muhammad or his followers to behead, kill or hate people. Well… according to the Quran and other authentic Islamic sources, Muhammad not only hated and killed his enemies and those who disagreed with him, but he also blinded the eyes of those who committed apostasy, and those who were of the “disbelievers” (ie: anyone who wasn’t Muslim). And Muhammad did all these evil and ungodly acts all in the name of his god “Allah”.
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Cruelty like this is NEVER morally justifiable, no matter WHAT crimes were committed. Muhammad’s shocking brutality, which he displayed over and over again, is yet more proof that he was NOT called by God
Muhammad as portrayed in the sira and ahadith was simply a human MONSTER. The only reason that Muslims fail to see this is because their leaders have taught them to AVOID thinking about Islam objectively and critically. Tabari Vol.8:Page.96 (Hugo Hackenbush) Note: Jesus gives sight to blinds . Mohd blinds people
Muhammad had a rival mosque burned down, intending to kill everyone inside. The history is a cannibal feast.
Sunan Abu Da’wud Volume 3, Book 40, Number 4744:
‘Arfajah told that he heard the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Various corruptions will arise in my community, so strike with sword the one who tries to cause separation in the matter of Muslims when they are united, whoever he be.”
Foot note 4153, the English translator of Sunaan Dawud, Professor Ahmad Hasan admits that it is permissible to ‘cannibalize’ dissident Islamic group/s. He writes: ‘The Prophet (may peace be upon him) did not tolerate disunity and schism among Muslims. Therefore, he ordered that, instead of causing separation and disagreement in the community, it is better to kill the person who causes disunity.’
–Abul Kasem “Cannibalizing Islam”
• Khaama Press, November 3,11, 2017 : the militants kidnaped 85 years old lady ,initially chopped off the limbs of the elderly woman before murdering her on charges of cooperating and supporting the government in southern Helmand province of Afghanistan
and another one Quran (3:151) – “Soon shall
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Sahih al-Bukhari 5686 Book 76, Hadith 9 Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.
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Sira:Ishaq:455 (At the Battle of Badr)
As the bodies were thrown into the well, one of the Muslims saw the body of his father thrown in. He said, “My father was a virtuous, wise, kind, and cultured man. I had hoped he would become a Muslim, but he died a kafir. His abode is Hell-fire forever.
o Jack Diamond says July 30, 2016 at 1:02 pm
“Islam ordered death for the crimes(murder,adultery(married person) and fighting)”
• just being a kaffir. But then disbelief itself is “fighting” Islam, isn’t it
• a Muslim leaving Islam “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” (Bukhari 9, #57) But that’s “fighting” Islam too, isn’t it?
• blasphemy. Insulting the Qur’an is blasphemy. Burning a Qur’an is insulting Islam. Insulting Muhammad in any fashion is blasphemy, deserving of death. Death, death, and more death.
• “Blood, blood, destruction, destruction!” as peace-loving Muhammad proclaimed (The Pledge of Aqaba).
Let’s just deal with ‘whoever curses a Prophet, kill him’ for how Islam orders death:
“al-Husayn ibn ‘Ali related from his father that the Messenger of Allah said in respect of this matter, “Whoever curses a Prophet, kill him.
• Whoever curses my Companions, beat him.”
• “Those who harm Allah and His Messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Next, and has prepared for them a humiliating punishment.” (33:57).
“the Prophet commanded that Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf be killed. He asked, “Who will deal with Ka’b ibn al-Ashraf? He has harmed Allah and His Messenger.” He sent someone to assassinate him without calling him to Islam, in distinction to other idol-worshippers. The cause of that lay in his causing harm to the Prophet. That indicates that the Prophet had him killed for something other than idol-worship. It was for causing harm.
Abu Rafi from Jew tribe,’ who never done any thing to harm the Messenger of Allah and muslims., 6 Men broke into his house and killed him killed while he was asleep.They went back to mohd, who examined their swords to find out who killed the man sword still has the food determined the killer..
“he ordered the killing of Ibn Khatal and his two slavegirls who used to sing his curses on the Prophet. Ibn Khatal was killed inside kaba a holy home of so called alla
“It is related that a woman used to curse the Prophet and he said, “Who will save me from my enemy?” Khalid ibn al-Walid went out and killed her.
mohammad killed his friend bin sarh who raise suspicion on his prophec
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm
Ibn Taymiyyah said:
“The First Issue: That Whoever – be it Muslim or kāfir – Swears at the Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم, Then It Is Obligatory to Execute Him
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Under Shari’a law, a prisoner is buried up to her breast, her hands restrained. Rules also specify the size of the stones which can be thrown so that death is painful and not imminent. Both men and women can be sentenced to die by stoning. In practise, however, an overwhelming number of women receive that penalty.
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Chopping head off, cooking and eating history of islam .
Companion of mohd -cousin of moh khalid bin waleed , did he have head chopped off him because he refused to collect taxation money for the islamic caliph order, majority of muslim revere him, he was sword of god , sword of justice , victim was cooked and ate him
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Arahan alhaqiqat alsaraf1 year ago
I have seen some of imam tawhidi’s letest videos. He did criticise prophet muhammad.
He also read the hadith which said about the killing of 6 urkal tribe men. Tawhidi agreed that prophet muhammad himself did the killing.
Andy B1 year ago (edited)
If you watch his other content, he does condemn the actions of Muhammed. In this video, he was asking if the actions were performed by the prophet or if he ordered one of his followers to do it. He is trying to show the truth about the matter he raises eith the texts he has collected. On further note, he wants to have a hard printed copy of the original texts instead of a website or a scan so he can show it has not been altered, and that when he quotes from the text, he can prove his quotations and use full context. His lack of immediately saying that the prophet himself was a cruel and evil barbaric man with no affection for human life, isnt him not condemning him, his argument was against people calling him a liar, and him wanting to prove himself through quoting the texts.
Yes I agree some time tawhidi bent the truth a little. Like, i never heard tawhidi taking about Ali the 4th khalif. However unlike all other mohamedans tawhidi is trying to be honest. I think.
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I thought Mohammed the prophet was a good man. Then I saw the hadith and now no.
If this is the true prophet’s personality and he did these things then no Mohammed is no prophet of mine.
If you are a Muslim and see these hadith and the crimes committed by Mohammed and not feel these are justified acts by a prophet then you must renounce Islam and become Christian.
Imams argue that to be a Muslim then you have to believe in the hadiths. Yet the very hadith are in direct conflict to the prophet’s before him and if you seek out people of the books before you they will tell you the lies of Islam and you will need to leave the fake religion of Islam as it is ALL lies.
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secular value1 year ago
Australia should look into it’s left wing politicians and media if you wish to protect your country.
I am a muslim by birth and i know how much hate and bigotry this religion is capable of.
Carole Davis1 year ago
Islam is being used by globalists as an invasion force in the West.
The Globalist group – with members like Soros, – have controlled the US presidency for the last 25 years, they have controlled the UK government since the fall of Thatcher – and no doubt have been working in Australia for about the same time.
They have manufactured wars in the Mid
East that have created the invasion we see today.
I was always under the impression that critisizm of Islam (as this Imam is doing) was considered apostasy under Sharia law – and punishable by death.
It is currently a jailable offence (under ‘hate speech’ laws) to critisize Islam in: France, Germany, Sweden, and Canada – RIGHT NOW.
I listened to a BBC Asia radio program about 2 months ago, and heard a councilman from Birmingham DEMANDING that critisizm of Islam become a CAPITAL offence under BRITISH law…. in other words, for the UK to adopt Sharia law, OVER the law of the land… only doing it in a sneaky back door manner.
Sadiq Kahn DEMANDED that the City of London become a Sharia state…
3 months ago a group DEMANDED that Sharia law be put above the State and US constitution in Austin TX.
Do you see the trend?
This process WILL be repeated in Australia.
Islam is invading, backed by many political groups and funded – and goaded by the globalists.
Globalism is the enemy of ALL humanity those supporting it should be exiled to remote places – where they can practice their form of living without disrupting the rest of the world.
Confiscate the entire fortunes of the Rocjerfella/Rothschild and their ilk.
Use the money to rebuild the countries they have destroyed on their path to attempting to reinstate the Pharonic concept of ‘government’ (.000001 at the top of the pyramid, the rest of us building the bloody thing beneath them, for a mud hut, a jug of beer, loaf of bread and some khol every day).
Jose Nico1 year ago
In Egypt a Sheikh interpret the Quran in different way asking to stop kill christian and others, this endup with 13 years in prison
Tom Graham1 year ago
This is the only way that Muslims can truly express their religion, by attempting to terrorise others. The very essence of Islam is to instil fear into the hearts of those it wants to control and manipulate. Imam Tawhidi is in great danger of his life yet he still stands up for change in Muslim community. He is by far the greater man by his actions.
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islam has been sugarcoated for the world, and the world did not know about its brutality. Now the truth is emerging, and it need to be spread for the safety of all mankind.
Unfortunately most people are ignorant when it comes to history
Most people don’t know that just after Muhammad’s death..
The Islamic Conquest (colonization) Of India Started Which is probably the bloodiest conquest of all time
Compared to the Crusades, the number of people died in the Crusades were 1.7 million people
But how many people died in the Islamic conquest of India ?! ..80 million people80 million
And the population of humans back then .. was only about 400 million..
But why did Muslims conquered India and Slaughtered all these people ?!
Because they wanted to spread Islam
Because India back then was full of Hindus and Buddhists .. Islam wasn’t there
But the moment Islam entered, whole cities were burned down, genocides of millions of people
And thousands of mass rapes of Hindu women
What I’m telling you is a true history, a history they won’t teach u at school
When the Islamic Conquest Of India started, the Muslim leader ( Mahmoud of Ghazni )
Which his name also was ( The Hero Of Islam ) and ( The Great Invader of India )
When he invaded Afghanistan in 1000 AD. he almost killed all the Hindus who lived there
Even to this day that area is called “Hindu Kuch” .. meaning “Hindu Slaughter”
Or when he entered Somnath on one of his annual raids, he slaughtered all people there Which was around ,50,000 people.
Or the leader of Islam “Alaul-Din Khaliji” when he entered the city of Kambayat
He killed all the adult male Hindu inhabitants, and sent their women with all their treasures to his home.
And add around , 20,000 Hindu maidens to his slaves.
It was normal for them to kill , 100,000 people in a single day.
Flagellation, Stoning, Killing, Slaughtering, Burning, and Crucifixions was the norm
Thousands of temples were destroyed to make way for mosques
Millions of women were kidnapped to be sold as slaves
Sometimes every new invader made his hills literally of Hindu skulls
He who tells you that Islam didn’t spread by sword and blood doesn’t know anything about the history of Islam
Without the hundreds of conquests, wars and millions of dead innocent people Islam could’ve vanished long time ago
“But the main point is, Islam doesn’t respond to words by killing, doesn’t respond to words by bullets”
“This lout, ignorant and stupid person should what he wants, but when it comes to Islam..“He should speak the truth”
“But he’s so ignorant and doesn’t know anything about his religion
gravenimage says
Good posts, Islamic text.
More Ham Ed says
It’s not a “tiny minority.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI_dhykU8TY
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslim leader says “Islam cannot be connected with any form of violent acts”
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And if you make such a connection, Muslims will murder you…
gravenimage says
Adel Salman also says that Infidels trying to identify Muslims at Jihad terror trials are violating Muslims’ human rights:
“Judge unreasonable for barring woman from Victorian court because of niqab, Islamic Council says”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-08/unreasonable-judge-refused-woman-access-to-court-because-of-her/9408828
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Well, If Islam can not be connected to terror and violence and he is indirectly saying that Wahhabism might be a source of entire mayhem that is going on. I once was told that wahhabism is the most severe form of islam. Sunni and shia muslims do not believe in wahhabism and they denounced it as a diabolical religion.
gravenimage says
All Islam comes from the same vicious source. I’m afraid your belief that all mainstream Muslims reject Jihad is *quite* mistaken–it is in the texts and tenets of Islam itself, and has been since the days of the “Prophet” Muhammed.
And Wahhabism only dates to the 18th century–how do you explain all of the centuries of Jihad terror before that?
Angemon says
“cannot be” =/= “is not”. I’ll just leave it at that…
Norger says
Good point. He may well have meant that dhimmitude is not optional.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noticed that as well, Angemon.
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Thank you GraveImage
There are a lot of Islamic text, unable to put in.
Son of hamas leader -Abu Mosab expose the Islamic violence in the UN. You may Google and hear him.
Sherif Gaber- an Egyptian tell the very violent Islamic conquests
At present, There are some Pakistani Journalists like Hassan Nasar and Fatah tell the very brutal history of muslim invaders in the sub-continent on Tv. .
Bill Warner -PhD has done a great deal research on barbaric Islamic conquests
In many Islamic countries, ruins of Christians,Jews, Hindus, Buddahs ‘heritages are still present for example Turkey. Where are the people?
There are others Iraqi, Saudi, Iranian, Turkish bravely talk about brutality in the islam
gravenimage says
Again, thank you. Your posts are always interesting, and quite informative.