Not jihad, as far as the available information goes.
“Tattooed trenchcoat-wearing gunman, 29, identified after massacring twelve people during student night at country bar: Suspect kills himself after hurling smoke grenades onto dance floor and killing cop in California,” by Connor Boyd For Dailymail.com and Jennifer Smith, Dailymail.com, November 8, 2018:
Twelve people have been killed at a country music bar in southern California after a masked gunman wearing all black opened fire on crowds of college kids before taking his own life with a semi-automatic handgun.
The shooter has been named as 29-year-old Ian Long. Witnesses described him as a heavily-tattooed white man who was wearing a black trench coat and a black bandanna at the time.
He stormed Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks on Wednesday at 11.20pm. He first shot the bouncer then opened fire on the crowds of youngsters who were there to enjoy a night of line dancing and country music.
As dozens ran for their lives, hid beneath pool tables and used bar stools to shatter the windows to escape, the shooter continued firing his Glock .45 that was legally bought in Ventura County.
He also threw smoke grenades to confuse the crowds.
When the first police officers arrived at the scene three minutes later, the gunman shot one of them multiple times before shooting himself. By the time SWAT teams arrived, he was dead. The sheriff’s sergeant who was shot later died in hospital. He was Ron Helus, a 29-year veteran.
In total, 13 are dead; 11 people inside the bar, the sheriff’s sergeant and the gunman. The gunman was 29 and drove his mother’s car to the bar to carry out the attack….
pemba says
Lunatic with gun.
We pray for all victims. their families and their friends.
mortimer says
THIS IS the M.O. of *LIFESTYLE* jihad… opposing the unchaperoned mingling of the opposite sexes, unveiled women, music, dancing and alcohol … so many sins against Sharia law all in one room.
We have seen this sort of LIFESTYLE JIHAD MANY TIMES before around the world.
Was the assailant wearing a JIHAD BEARD WITH CLIPPED MUSTACHE as required by discriminatory Sharia law?
Quote: “Thousand Oaks was ranked the third-safest city in the United States this year, according to the data analysis website Niche.” Now, jihadists can get to us almost anywhere.
Every place can be the frontline of jihad.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, no reason to think that this was Jihad.
Maria says
Heavily-tattooed…wearing a black trench coat and bandanna…
Did they strip him after he was dead? How can you identify a man as heavily-tattooed if he’s wearing a trench coat?
mortimer says
The Borderline Bar and Grill opened in 1993 and advertises itself as ‘American Traditional’ and a “haven for country line dancing folks of all ages.” It says it’s hosted many famous acts including The Beach Boys.
Was this attack connected with the election of conservative Republicans? If conservative Republicans are the targets, this would be the place, similar to the attack against white conservatives in Las Vegas by Stephen Craig Paddock at a country music concert.
Square dancing is the official dance of the United States.
Sam says
“Square dancing is the official dance of the United States.”
I love this phrase!
Prabh108 says
The whole morning I have been having similar thoughts as yours Mortimer. It seems to me this is some sort of revenge attack (election results/lifestyle jihad). And yes, I also was reminded of the Las Vegas atrocity. Note also the yoga studio attack of Florida a few days ago. We are living in very dangerous times – stay safe and remind your family and friends to be extra vigilant.
Prabh108
Elisha says
Mark 1:15
Benedict says
The religion of whiteness strikes again.
CogitoErgoSum says
Isn’t it customary to blame mental illness first?
gravenimage says
Only with Muslims…
common sense says
Per Mortimer this was politically motivated 100% and possibly a Jihad attack by a recent closet convert which as well documented often enter into extreme Muhammadism. Stockholm syndrome is occuring with some soldiers that serve in the ME. An Islamic patsy of sorts that im sure our enemies are blessing if true.
Jews and republicans are indeed being targeted, harassed, assaulted and killed.
So much the easier for someone with pstd not that I feel sorry for the murderer only for the lives lost and the Marine Corp.
gravenimage says
At this point it seems highly unlikely that this was Jihad.
common sense says
Probably not, either way just tragic.
MoHamwithBacon says
Do you whackos hear yourselves?
You spend all day on this website and nothing has changed.
You spin deeper and deeper into madness.
Anton Filipenkov says
Leaving such replies here indicates you’re the one having some mental issues.
gravenimage says
No, not all terrorism is Jihad.
But it seems that “MoHamwithBacon”–his username notwithstanding–would prefer us to ignore those 34,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11. Bad dhimmis…
BARBARA BROOKS says
People with PTSD should not be allowed to have guns for years! Maybe if this fellow had gotten good support for his PTSD he would not have shot people, even though he was a “really mean guy”.
common sense says
Something fishy about a soft target at a country music bar and mass shootings it just looks political. It could have been just the closest populated scene I have no idea where he lived our what other place may have as many people. I mean why carry this out in such a place?
The shooting at the synagogue is straight forward we understand why as demented as it is.
We need to stop these massacres.
common sense says
Also over 600 assaults and battery on Trump supportes and now antifa at Tucker Carlson’s house.
To be fair that race baiter Don Lemon was also assaulted not and not attacked but by one man.
Rufolino says
When I heard he had a full beard etc I wondered if he was possibly a convert, and that this could be jihad.
But so far no actual evidence suggests that it was.
Unless some Islamic connection appears, this shocking story doesn’t belong on this site.
Why is it here ?
common sense says
With respect. Eye witness accounts of “a middle eastern looking man with a beard” and because Islamic attacks are so prevalent and grotesquey covered up we have to keep digging until it’s ruled out.
Is this the same man? Did he convert to Islam? These are answerable questions.
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I keep seeing this and the first reports were screen shotted that the man yelled something before the attack. What was it that he said?
I’m not running any suggestions I want to know.