“The evidence is overwhelming,” insists Lemon. But is it, really? There are several reasons why it is a false claim that “right-wing extremists” are a bigger threat to Americans than Islamic jihad terrorists. “Lemon pointed to a recent Government Accountability Office report that shows that since the 9/11 attacks in 2001, far-right violent extremists have killed 106 people in 62 attacks in the United States, while radical Islamist violent extremists have killed 119 people in 23 attacks.”
But there are several problems with this study:
1. It only counts fatalities, not people injured.
2. It doesn’t take failed plots into account.
3. If you follow the Post’s link to the Government Accountability Office, and go to page 6 of the report there, you’ll see that the count of fatalities committed by “far right wing extremists” and “radical Islamist extremists” begins on September 12, 2001. Go back one more day, and the number of Americans killed by Islamic jihadists is far, far more than the number of Americans killed by any other type of “extremist.”
4. The comparison doesn’t take into account the fact that there is a global network of Islamic jihadis. They’re found on every inhabited continent. Major jihad organizations such as al-Qaeda and the Islamic State have repeatedly called upon Muslims to murder Americans. By contrast, there is no global network of “right-wing extremists” and they have not called for the indiscriminate murder of American civilians.
This propaganda is everywhere, but all the repetition of these lies doesn’t make them true.
“CNN’s Don Lemon doubles down after saying white men are ‘the biggest terror threat in this country,’” by Lindsey Bever, Washington Post, November 1, 2018:
During a recent segment about a supermarket shooting in Kentucky, CNN host Don Lemon said that “the biggest terror threat in this country is white men.”
Lemon was speaking on live television Monday about an incident in which a white man allegedly shot and killed two black people outside a Kroger grocery store in Jeffersontown, Ky., not far from Louisville.
The incident, which is being investigated as a hate crime, occurred during the same week that 13 potential explosive devices were sent to prominent Democratic and media figures across the country and 11 people were killed in a mass shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh. White men were also charged in both of those cases.
“I keep trying to point out to people not to demonize any one group or any one ethnicity. But we keep thinking that the biggest terror threat is something else — some people who are marching towards the border like it’s imminent,” Lemon told CNN anchor Chris Cuomo, referring to the Central American migrant caravan walking toward the United States. He added that “the last time they did this, a couple hundred people came and they — most of them didn’t get into the country. Most of them got tuckered out before they even made it to the border.”
“So,” he said, “we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them. There is no travel ban on them. There is no ban — you know, they had the Muslim ban. There is no white-guy ban. So what do we do about that?”
On Wednesday, following the backlash, Lemon doubled down.
“Earlier this week, I made some comments about that in a conversation with Chris,” he said during a broadcast Wednesday night. “I said that the biggest terror threat in this country comes from radicals on the far right, primarily white men. That angered some people. But let’s put emotion aside and look at the cold hard facts. The evidence is overwhelming.”
Lemon pointed to a recent Government Accountability Office report that shows that since the 9/11 attacks in 2001, far-right violent extremists have killed 106 people in 62 attacks in the United States, while radical Islamist violent extremists have killed 119 people in 23 attacks.
He also referenced several studies, including a 2017 report from the Nation Institute’s Investigative Fund and the Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal, which found that from 2008 to 2016, there were almost twice as many terrorist incidents carried out on U.S. soil by right-wing extremists — many of whom are white — than by Islamist extremists.
It showed there were 115 incidents involving right-wing extremists and that those that ended in death were more deadly than incidents carried out by other groups.
“So people who were angered about what I said are missing the entire point,” Lemon said about his earlier statements. “We don’t need to worry about people who are thousands of miles away. The biggest threats are homegrown. The facts prove that.”…
Andy says
SHOULD WARNER MEDIA FIRE JEFF ZUCKER FOR PROMOTING ANTI WHITE HATRED?
https://michaelsavage.com/cnn-host-the-biggest-terror-threat-in-this-country-is-white-men/
Lydia Church says
Right, why isn’t he being fired for racism?
Or is that only for those who talk about blacks?
And are fired for not even making racist comments?
But just for talking about ‘blackface’?
mortimer says
WHAT A STUPID MAN … he starts saying ‘DON’T DEMONIZE’ and then, in the same breath HE DEMONIZES WHITE MEN.
What a colossal FOOL. How does such a fool as DON LEMON get a job?
How can they let him keep his job after this?
Americans who care about ONE STANDARD OF ETHICS FOR ALL should boycott DON LEMON and his NETWORK .
CNN HAS CROSSED THE LINE. We must tell their sponsors enough is enough.
j_not_a says
Even though Lemons’ shows’ ratings is dead last out of all the networks, CNN won’t fire him, he’s hard left, hates whites, is biracial and gay.
mortimer says
Agree with Lydia. I consider his words HATE SPEECH and 100% RACISM.
Andy says
Lemon head the racist at CNN should be fired!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnVM387qcQ
Jaron Joyner says
I also wonder how Don Lemon can be so Racist-And he still has a Job??Theres a lot of “Double Standards “-Going around???
Older Canadian says
Because he is black and gay? Or because he is doing his job according to CNN’ party line agenda?
Jack Holan says
Also, Robert Obama mischaracterized Nidal shooting and killing fellow soldiers. Is this listed? Then we hav the 5 Marines in Tennessee who were murdered by a Lone Wolf. Obama discarded that event too! Bush also isn’t blames less. He declared the Egyptian shooting up the ElAl LAX terminal somethingother than terrorism. The plane off our Eastern Shore that took a nose dive with the Arab Pilot screaming Allahu Akbar he had personal problems according to Government Conventioal wisdom. The Government has used every device to cover for Muslims Why. It should be what ever it is it is. Period
Joe says
If “insanity” is added to the equation, I can get to over a hundred from just memory which is only about 1 percent of the actual cases. For example, the Pulse night club attack in Florida. Loretta Lynch said, “We may never know.” Yet Omar Mateen stated exactly why he did it over and over. Yet the motive is “Inconclusive”. This attack killed over 50 people. This case is not an exception, it is how nearly all these cases are “investigated”.
gravenimage says
This is true. I have also heard Omar Mateen–a Muslim acting on the diktats of islam–described as an “angry white man”. Ludicrous.
Here’s one such stupid article:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/29/mass-shootings-white-male-fragility-capital-gazette-maryland-misogyny
Mateen is cited as one of the “white men”.
Samson Bandy says
What do you expect from a racist Back Door Man?
He should host a talk show called “Get Whitey”
CogitoErgoSum says
Lemon says we should not demonize any one group of people and then he immediately contradicts himself by demonizing one certain group of people. What? For his words to remain consistent he must think that white men are not human. Thousands and thousands of white men fought and killed each other in a bloody civil war over whether or not ALL men have the same rights in this country and it was decided that they DO. Now, those who were helped by white men to have the same rights as white men want to make white men into demons. BTW, Lemon’s current boyfriend is white. Again, I say: What? The man is a walking, talking contradiction.
gravenimage says
I doubt he even recognizes this.
Paul says
Let’s not forget, this is the same NPC piece of shit who did not think that
a bunch of black thugs kidnapping a mentally handicapped white man
and cutting him and humiliating him and making him drink toilet water
qualified as “evil” in any way.
Lemon is pure scum. Don’t forget that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5gU5FNaLA
mortimer says
BLACK CRIMINALITY IS ENORMOUSLY HIGHER IN THE US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJHJwTP40Ok
mortimer says
Blacks commit 25 times more Violent Crimes against Whites than Whites against Blacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA1mYQR3TM8
BK says
If my math is correct, the white people killed 1.7 people average per attack. The Muslim extremist killed 5.17 people average per attack. That would make the Muslims more deadly, would it not?
Mark Swan says
Nearly 200 MILLION white Americans and 62 incidents—
about 3.45 million Muslims and 19 Incidents—the 62 number
is surely less and the 19 number is surely more—but anyway
we look at it—the numbers he surely does not look at are of the
ones from his own race.
We are a Nation of more than 300 Million People–
with crime problems that are not being helped by
the Democrats, who rely on certain regional political
support.
There are certainly many serious things this Country
seems un-willing to Approach.
Gun Violence is highly concentrated in Black areas
associated gang violence involving male perpetrators…
Although random mass shootings have been covered
extensively in the media…random mass shootings
account for a very small amount of gun-related deaths…
so far…not even a percentage point.
Blacks make up 13% of the population (both sexes) but
commit 57% of gun homicides. It’s even worse since it’s
more like 6.5% of the population (males) committing
57% of the gun homicides.
The liberal Political Machine…along with media allies
may want to Imply that more Gun Control can help with
gun violence…but more laws won’t help…we have very
strict laws already in place…they, like drug laws, have
not stop this violence from growing.
We must start by admitting that some of our population
have this absolute potential.
If We can not reign in these long standing criminal gangs
they are still going to be a major source of Illegal Gun
distribution and they will aid an abet any one with the
funds…If we can not get a lid on this…WE WILL EVEN
FIND FIGHTING JIHAD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT
WOULD NEED TO BE.
This is not just about street people—these gangs are diversified
in financial investment and social and political association, they
launder huge amounts of crime money into clean money
everyone accepts.
Estimated Number of Gangs in America
2016 33,700 Known
Distribution of Gangs by Area Type Percent
Larger Cities 41.6%
Suburban Counties 25.8%
Smaller Cities 27.1%
Rural Counties 5.5%
Estimated Number of U.S. Gang Members
2016 1.4 million Known
The U.S. is located just above South America—Mexico its nearest neighbor,
it has over 3 times the murder rate of the U.S.—criminal organizations from
South America are very active in the U.S. and account for homicides here,
and many other serious crimes.
These particular gang types come through Mexico, where the cartels
rule the country.
With this taking place you can easily double the gang problem we
have in America.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/illegal-alien-crime-and-violence-
by-the-numbers-were-all-victims/
gravenimage says
Good posts, BK and Mark.
j_not_a says
Your stating black males as 6.5 % of the population of the USA would mean including the very young and the very old.
So actually it is more like roughly 3- 3.5% of the population that is commiting the majority of crimes such as rape, serious assault and murder and that is even more shocking.
j_not_a says
Your stating black males as 6.5 % of the population of the USA would mean including the very young and the very old.
So actually it is more like roughly 3- 3.5% of the population that is commiting the majority of crimes such as rape, serious assault and murder and that is even more shocking.
infidel says
All these crimes by white men are STRICTLY LOCAL Phenomenon. When was the last time a White man went on a random shooting spree in a country foreign to him. Muslims do that all the time..
Jean says
infidel.
There are many white Muslims (including Muhammad himself, see the video below), and they behave no better than the black ones. Race is wholly irrelevant here, the ideology corrupts all equally. Check out Chechen jihadis. Many of them have participated in IS atrocities in Syria and Iraq.
Don’t fall for the race discussion, it is a decoy meant to move the discussion away from the contents of Islamic ideology.
Mark Swan says
Everyone knows Islam is not a race—it is composed of multiple races—this article is
about more of the same smokescreen that attempts to detract from the Jihad that is
violence, committed by Muslims—the racist black reporter, here, tries to apply more
of the same race bating that has escalated since President Obama and his minions
had there big push. Yet, Americans of European descent have been demonized,
for many decades now, for no other reason than just being in the majority.
America needs One Law For All—it should not tolerate any special people.
Mark Swan says
Everyone knows Islam is not a race—it is composed of multiple races—this article is
about more of the same smokescreen that attempts to detract from the Jihad that is
a crime, committed by Muslims—the racist black reporter, here, tries to apply more
of the same race bating that has escalated since President Obama and his minions had
there way. Yet, Americans of European descent have been demonized, for many
decades now, for no other reason than just being in the majority.
America needs One Law For All—it should not tolerate any special people.
Mark Swan says
Sorry for the duplication here.
gravenimage says
+1
Georg says
“…since the 9/11 attacks…”
Perhaps when discussing terrorism in the United States 9/11 ought to be on the table. Just a thought.
gravenimage says
So true.
Jack L Poitinger says
Also, about 2,000 people have died since 9-11 from 9-11 related sickness, those deaths have to be put on the list since they died after 9-11 and those deaths were caused by jihadist attacks. And there is no organization or group of white males with the stated goal of killing or terrorism like there is with jihadist groups, the white males in these cases are mostly loners and some had no clear motives.
GrumpyMel says
So less then 2 percent of the population is responsible for more then 50 percent of the terror killings, yet Lemon thinks that white guys are the bigger danger? Is he a common core math graduate?
Georg says
A dangerous idiot.
gravenimage says
Actually, Muslims make up less than 1% of the population in the US.
Muslims are *many times* more violent than white men.
Fatts says
The GAO report is a farce. Let’s see an itemized list of who the “far right extremists” are.
Fatts says
CNN is officially the home of the racist black homosexual.
MSNBC must be jealous.
heks says
Don’t forget that the right-wing extremists and white supremacists have a bizarre habit of killing EACH OTHER rather frequently, and those killings typically make it into the stats for how many deaths they’ve caused. This inflates the numbers beyond those killings we actually care about, which is when they kill OTHER people.
Jean says
The stipulated contrast between ‘White’ and ‘Islamic’ is quite false. They are not mutually exclusive, so it makes no sense to compare them as contrasts.
Just to give one example: Muhammad himself. Watch the evidence here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZxH4QYLRQY
Jean says
Referring to the video I just posted:
In this sense, Mr. Lemon is technically correct that the biggest terror threat the world has ever known was a white man. It is interesting how Mr. Lemon would respond to this fact.
– Would he feel obliged to condemn Muhammad publicly for the immense suffering this particular white man has caused?
– Or would he deny that Muhammad’s deeds are evil, since Islam presently has many non-White followers who must a priori, by his racist standards, be excused?
Oh, the dilemmas of Post-Marxist theory.
Peter A says
Report by Henry Jackson Society on groups responsible for terrorism in the West in 2017.
Far-right: 20.59 per cent.
Far-left: 20.59 per cent.
Islamists: 48.53 per cent.
As for deaths;
On average, Muslims make up about 6% of the population in the West, but in terms of killings, Islamists responsible for 84.27 per cent of deaths.
Indiana Tom says
White European Man bad. Brown other man good.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Indiana Tom says
Get rid of Black and Hispanic crime stats and USA gun crime goes down to that of Finland.
gravenimage says
This is true. Our stats would be almost identical to Canada’s.
Older Canadian says
Well maybe presently, but with trudeau’s open border since january 2017 our crime rate has really escalated, or maybe it is just doing a catch up from being soft on crime over the past few decades, and kowtowing to SJWs.
gordon miller says
Lemon’s comment is ridiculous and falls under the category: “How to lie with statistics.”
terry says
Lemon’s a racist to core.
Timothy K. Toroian says
Call the guys in the white coats who carry the funny long sleeved jacket with them. And maybe a net just in case.
Richard McKenzie says
Don Lemon is a racist, a black lemon he be!
Rooster52 says
Don Lemon is a racist, a black lemon he be!
Vicky says
He is a grotesque racist and should ignored completely. His platform is that of the worst kind of racism and his vile employers are happy to give it to him. Everyone should boycott CNN until it no longer exists. It’s a bane on society.
kouldb says
Oh yes. The very white men who helped Mr Lemon become a prominent figure? Earning a good salary? Is that the men he speaks of? What about his white boyfriend, is he too a terrorist? As a woman, living in Australia. I am sick to death of people racially vilifying the same men who gave me my free nation. Who introduced equal opportunity laws. Who continue to fight for my rights to be safe. Who endlessly ensure that I am taken care of by the state should something awful happen to me like ill health. Who have built my nation. It’s infrastructure, hospitals, schools & maternity wings. Who have lobbied so that when I was younger I could have maternity leave. Men who now ensure that as I care for my ageing & frail parents. I can work from home & serve both roles. Men who are there, 24/7 protecting me, my family, my son & my nation from foreign invasions. Who have sacrificed their lives, millions of them, in battles to fight for the freedoms that I now enjoy. Men who have provided for me & my son through ensuring my nation is stable & that I can rely on services, job opportunities, university education & every. Other service I can think of. I am so very, very sick of racist, envious, contemptuous & pathetic imbeciles like Mr Lemon. Go to hell Lemon. You’re nothing but a predatory leech. And there are too many of you to count. It’s you & your ilk who are the biggest threat to our respective nations. Not white men.
Robert Rouillard says
Is this any way to unite a country?