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Cops say Muslim sisters found dead in Hudson River preferred suicide to returning to Saudi Arabia

Nov 4, 2018 8:38 am By Robert Spencer

It isn’t hard to see why they would think this way. Saudi Arabia is a Sharia state. Imagine being a woman in Saudi Arabia, having to live with men who see all this as holy writ:

The Qur’an teaches that men are superior to women and should beat those from whom they “fear disobedience”: “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34

Muhammad’s child bride, Aisha, says in a hadith that Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: ‘Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?’” — Sahih Muslim 2127

The Qur’an likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: “Your women are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth as you will” — Qur’an 2:223

It declares that a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man: “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as you choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her” — Qur’an 2:282

It allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, then only one, or one that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice” — Qur’an 4:3

It rules that a son’s inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: “Allah directs you as regards your children’s inheritance: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females” — Qur’an 4:11

It allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures “shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” — Qur’an 65:4

Islamic law stipulates that a man’s prayer is annulled if a dog or a woman passes in front of him as he is praying. “Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, ‘You have made us (i.e. women) dogs.’ I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.” — Sahih Bukhari 1.9.490

Another hadith depicts Muhammad saying that the majority of the inhabitants of hell are women:

“I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.” — Sahih Bukhari 3241; Sahih Muslim 2737

When asked about this, he explained:

“I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” — Sahih Bukhari 1052

And in another hadith:

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) went out to the musalla (prayer place) on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.’ They asked, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’” — Sahih Bukhari 304

Another statement attributed to Muhammad: “If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning.” — Sahih Bukhari 4.54.460

“Sisters found dead in Hudson River preferred suicide over returning to Saudi Arabia: Police,” by Aaron Katersky and Morgan Winsor, ABC News, November 2, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Tala and Rotana Farea, the sisters from Saudi Arabia whose bodies were found taped together in New York City’s Hudson River last week, were said to have preferred suicide over returning to their home country, according to police.

Dermot Shea, chief of detectives for the New York City Police Department, said “sources” in Virginia, where the Farea sisters had previously been living, informed investigators that the two women had been in the United States for two to three years and would “rather inflict harm on themselves and commit suicide than return to Saudi Arabia.”

“Everything that we’ve seen thus far is pointing to something other than a crime taking place,” Shea told reporters at a news conference Friday afternoon. “But we’re not ruling anything out.”

Detectives believe the women may have applied for asylum in the United States after alleging that they were victims of abuse, Shea said.

The medical examiner’s office will ultimately determine the causes of death as the investigation continues.

A witness told police he saw the women in a park on West 158th Street in Upper Manhattan on the morning of Oct. 24, while he was out exercising. They were sitting about 30 feet apart with their heads in their hands and appeared to be praying, the witness said.

The bodies of Tala Farea, 16, and Rotana Farea, 22, were seen floating along the Hudson River that afternoon, police said.

The sisters, whose bodies were loosely bound together with duct tape, were found lying on rocks near the river, fully-clothed, both wearing black jackets with fur trim and black leggings. There were no obvious signs of trauma, and detectives believe the women were alive when they entered the water, according to police.

Their bodies are believed to have washed ashore with the tide and stayed when it went out, police said.

NYPD detectives are checking to see if any surveillance cameras captured the moment Tala and Rotana Farea entered the river. They are also trying to determine whether either of them had met with any counselors or therapists in recent weeks, two police sources told ABC News.

The Royal Consulate General of Saudi Arabia in New York confirmed in a statement Tuesday that the Farea sisters were students accompanying their brother in Washington, D.C.

Police investigators have traveled to Virginia, where they conducted various interviews with relatives and other associates of the Farea sisters to learn more about them. Shea has said those interviews are “unraveling” what was going on in the women’s lives before their mysterious deaths.

Tala and Rotana Farea were, for a time, living with family in Fairfax, Virginia, but the relatives hadn’t seen them since Nov. 30, 2017, according to Shea.

After raising allegations of abuse, the sisters were placed in a domestic violence shelter in Virginia in December 2017. They went missing from that facility on Aug. 24, which was the last time they were both seen in Virginia, Shea said….

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  1. WPM says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 9:29 am

    Who duct tape them together it looks more like an honor killing. The medical officer has not ruled on the cause of death yet .Suicide would absolve the abuse these woman suffered at the hands of male members of their families .

    • Al says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 12:47 pm

      My very question: how did they tape themselves?

      It looks like the NYPD are backing down from the Caliphate…erh, CAIR.

      But they must think We, Americans are stupid!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 3:08 pm

      You are likely right–see below.

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 9:30 am

    They taped themselves together as if to say all they had in this life was each other. This is so very sad.

  3. Robert Carrillo says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Let’s face it! This THING is a “CULT”ure …A 7th Century barbaric CULT! ..And fashioned by a maniac, after his own perverted sickness..

    And, his followers are of the same ilk as those who followed Jim Jones to “Jones-town”..

    Same trash – different century….and counting.. That’s all..

    • Jerry Hello says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 1:12 pm

      Good point!

    • Barbara Vandewalle says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 2:35 pm

      All of Muhammad quotes are that men are always right and women wrong. There fore the men are justified in how they choose to treat women.
      However, all of this is completely contrary to how GOD instructs men to treat women. Man is supposed to treasure the women in his life.

  4. Paul says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 10:01 am

    According to reports they went on a spending spree before their double suicide. It it was…

    https://nypost.com/2018/11/02/sisters-went-on-massive-spending-spree-before-suicide-pact-cops/

    Troubled kids with no backup.

    Paul

    • Kay says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 10:40 am

      It’s very sad. I imagine that when the money ran out, they couldn’t see any other option.

      The family members that abused them– I hope they are sent back to Saudi Arabia.

  5. Robert Carrillo says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Very sad for these sisters..

    Very sad for OUR nation now..

  6. mortimer says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 10:09 am

    More TRAGEDIES caused by DISCRIMINATORY Sharia law.

    Islam is a misogynistic DEATH CULT in which DEATH is the SOLUTION to almost every problem.

    Motto of Jihadists: “WE LOVE DEATH.”

    -“We love death more then [sic] you love life!” – last words in PowerPointPresentation by Maj Dr Nidal Hasan to fellow military doctors.

  7. mortimer says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 10:11 am

    Manhattan’s FREEDOM was HEAVEN compared with SODDY BARBARIA’S SHARIA-RESTRICTED HELL.

  8. Wellington says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 11:02 am

    Ah, if only they had had a talk with Dalia Mogahed they would have grasped how wonderful it is for women under Sharia and would now be back in Saudi Arabia. Right.

    • abad says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 12:19 pm

      +1

    • Raja says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 8:54 pm

      To Wellington,

      +1

  9. Indiana Tom says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 11:26 am

    “Sisters found dead in Hudson River preferred suicide over returning to Saudi Arabia:
    If it is suicide,, it is understandable.

  10. Kiki says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 12:25 pm

    Those poor women. No one should ever be made to feel so desperate and afraid that they feel suicide is the only option. The part about them taping themselves together is very haunting as well…they wanted to stay together, even in death.

    I really hope their souls are being healed in heaven.

    Tala and Rotana…..rest in peace.

  11. gravenimage says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    Islam responsible for yet more death.

    • mummymovie says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 2:20 pm

      Yes, but beware: The media is trying to twist the narrative to blame it on, who else? Trump, of course.

      Don’t underestimate the pre-election lefty desperation.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 4, 2018 at 3:12 pm

        It now seems likely that this was an “Honor Killing” Will they try to blame Trump for that, as well? Probably…

        • mummymovie says

          Nov 4, 2018 at 8:43 pm

          My prediction?

          The MSM will do their best to suppress that component of the story on the grounds that “it reinforces negative stereotypes”, or some such BS.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 5, 2018 at 11:19 pm

          Probably so, mummymovie.

  12. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    No wonder those two sisters literally preferred going to their own deaths before returning to that cruel, harsh oppressive misogynist that Islamic kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
    As explained by an Arab woman who is now and American but, in times past, used to live in one of those Middle Eastern countries. For she revealed and exposed in one of her books that “The shocking reality is that most men, including those educated in the West have no objection to honor killing and the degradation of women in their countries. Across the Muslim world, even in moderate Islamic countries, women’s rights are almost nonexistent….Woman in Islam are considered unclean, deemed inferior even to dirt.” [1]

    The reality Islam is, in essence, a religion of brutally strong and vicious misogyny.

    [1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel , pages 171,172.

  13. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    This Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a Sunni Islamic kingdom, is so unreasonably cruel harsh with its Islamic law policy which is so viciously misogynist that it even has the horrible outcome of young s girls burning to death.
    For even in this twenty-first century Saudi Arabia with its odious misogyny had one night a girls dorm the had caught on fire. The girls in that dorm, naturally, ran outside to escape that fire. The Saudi police literally force those girls to back to and inside the dorm that was on fire because in their rush to escape the fire they forgot to put on their face veils. Therefore all those girls died cruel in the fire.
    This murder, Islamic government sanctioned murder, Islamic government sanctioned murder in the cruelest way possible.
    Nevertheless, the many Muslim propagandists to live in the Western nation have the blatant and outright lying gall to make the totally false claim ,to naive and uninformed Westerners , that “Islam respect women and female rights ,both girls and women” The facts of reality shoe otherwise.

  14. lisalles says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    Not believable. Can not wrap my mind around sisters duct taping themselves together and drowning themselves….they were murdered.

    • ontheridge says

      Nov 5, 2018 at 10:27 pm

      I don’t think so. If they had been deported to Saudi Arabia, they would have been taken by male relatives and married against their will, to men in their 50s, 60s or older, that already had three wives. Then they would have been raped and raped so they’d have 12 or 16 children each, and beaten for minor things. They thought, better death than that.

  15. gravenimage says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm

    It now seems that this were likely “Honor Killings”:

    “Honor killing in NYC? Circumstances of Saudi sisters’ deaths contradict NYPD’s ‘suicide’ claim”

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/honor-killing-in-nyc-circumstances-of-saudi-sisters-deaths-contradict-nypds-suicide-claim

    I had wondered about their being duct taped together….

  16. somehistory says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 3:08 pm

    The medical examiner’s report does not support the “suicide” claim by the police.

    They were taped at the feet…fairly difficult to stand close enough together that one could be taped at the waist and feet…much less for one of the persons being taped to do the taping. And then, to tape one’s waist to the other whose feet are already taped. And then….to jump off the bridge and into the river.

    Were they taping themselves together while standing on the bridge? Did they tape themselves together and then hope together to the bridge? How likely is it that they did the taping and then threw themselves off the bridge and not be seen…if in fact they were flexible enough and strong enough to do so?
    They were in the water a long time before being found.

    This, in my opinion, is a double murder committed by someone who considered that these sisters had committed an act or acts against islam.

    • Mirren10 says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 3:12 pm

      ”This, in my opinion, is a double murder committed by someone who considered that these sisters had committed an act or acts against islam”

      Exactly, somehistory. I don’t think much of Dermot Shea’s detective skills. Any detective who didn’t have an agenda would have been asking some questions.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 3:13 pm

      +1

  17. eleanor says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 8:31 pm

    this is definitely murder, honor or not; honor killings don’t count with muslims; just another warm body who wants out of the oppression and hate; so sad for the girls who wanted freedom and we failed them; failed to protect them from being murdered by their parents.

  18. Raja says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Left politicizes everything. What have they to say about this probable double murder by Islamic zealots?

    Have the scums from the Left said anything about Bibi of Pakistan, who is going through hell on earth?

    Let us discuss Islam and its nefarious designs in public, at least that can procrastinate global sharia leave alone shaming the fanatics of Islam and the left.

  19. Giacomo Latta says

    Nov 5, 2018 at 11:22 pm

    If they had enough sense to go to a domestic violence haven once then why would they not have done that again?

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 5, 2018 at 11:26 pm

      Grimly, this happens a great deal. Out of nativite or denial or passivity those threatened with abuse or even murder return home, despite the danger.

      I ran away from a violently abusive home when I was fifteen. I had the sense to stay far away. This is, sadly, not always the case.

  20. Mahendra Singh says

    Nov 25, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Two more victims of that cruel cult called Islam.

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