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Dalia Mogahed: “They don’t need you to save them from Islam. They need your respect.” (Part Two)

Nov 3, 2018 10:00 am By Hugh Fitzgerald

Mogahed did not become a chemical engineer, nor go into business, for both of which she trained, and either of which might have been taxing. Instead, she went into the business of being a Muslim. First, she polled Muslims for Gallup. Now she polls Muslims for her Muslim advocacy group (what she calls her “think tank”) and writes about Islam and Muslims, endlessly. Islam is her business. It’s what she thinks about, writes about, speaks about, defends and promotes.

My choices may not be her choices,

Mogahed is referring to the woman guilty of “micro-aggression” by taking hostile notice of her hijab.

which doesn’t threaten me at all. If she really cares about freedom for women, listening [sic] rather than demeaning women who don’t look like her would be a great start to real progress.

Now I don’t mean to imply that Muslim women don’t face any gender-based challenges. Roughly half of Muslim American women say they’ve also experienced gender discrimination in the past year. But that’s no different from Christian, Jewish and non-affiliated American women.  Where Muslim Americans are unique is that three-quarters say they have experienced racial discrimination in the past year, and 69 percent report encountering religious discrimination during that time, as well.

So, what actually subjugates Muslim women? It’s not Islam or hijab, but instead racism and Islamophobia — assaults justified in part by a supposed desire to save them. Frustratingly, our study found that liberals, who tend to be overall friendlier to marginalized groups, are nearly as guilty of this type of patronizing prejudice as others.

Those who subjugate Muslim women are Muslim men. Period. After all, it bears repeating, they are only following the dictates of the Qur’an, and the example of Muhammad in the Hadith, when they treat women as they do. One more time: according to Qur’an 4:34, the Muslim husband may “beat” his disobedient wife. Is that famous Qur’anic verse unknown to Dalia Mogahed? What does she think of polygyny as practiced in Muslim lands? Doesn’t that devalue women? What does she think of the husband in those countries who can divorce his wife merely by uttering the triple-talaq? What does she think of Muslim daughters inheriting only half that of sons, or of Muslim women whose testimony as a witness is, in Muslim societies, worth half that of a man? What does she think of Muhammad’s consummating his marriage to Aisha when she was nine years old? And what of the Muslims who emulate the example of Muhammad, such as Ayatollah Khomeini, who married his wife when she was ten years old? Does she find anything worrying about these practices? What does she think of Muhammad’s claim that “women are deficient in intelligence’? Or would she prefer to deny that famous claim?

“I am here to say that we are not in need of “saving.” According to a study by The Institute for Social Policy and Understanding [despite its misleading name, it is a Muslim advocacy group], for which I direct research, Muslim American women are among the most educated faith groups in the country, and outpace their male counterparts in higher education.

“Among the most educated faith groups”? How many “faith groups” are there? If Muslim Americans were more educated than Christians or Jews, Mogahed would have said so. Since she did not, they clearly are not.

The majority polled also see Islam as a source of pride and happiness. The more than 40 percent of American women of the Islamic faith who say they wear hijab tell researchers they do so either as an act of piety (54 percent), to be identified as a Muslim (21 percent) or for modesty (12 percent). Only 1 percent said they wear hijab because a family member requires it.

I am not sure what faith to put into the “research” directed by Dalia Mogahed herself, but she fails to understand what even her own “facts” — assuming we accept them — tell us. 60 percent of American Muslim women apparently reject wearing the hijab. She did not ask them the obvious question: had you been pressured to wear it, and then refused to do so, or was there no such pressure? And why did you choose not to wear it? Perhaps she didn’t want to find out, much less report, the answers such a question might have elicited. Of the rest, she says, only 1 percent of Muslim girls and women “wear hijabs because a family member requires it.”

 

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  1. tony46 says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Respect?
    You mean compassion.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 3, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      No, tony, Dalia Mogahed has NO REPECT for the filthy KUFAAR, and yet, hypocritically, she DEMANDS RESPECT for Islam’s SELF-HATING WOMEN.

      Why should we ‘respect’ women who are brainwashed enough to make themselves SECOND-CLASS by kowtowing to Muslim men who are LESS EDUCATED than themselves?

      Not logical, Dalia, is it?

      Why does Islam say women may NEVER RULE OVER MEN as their manager or as their HEAD OF GOVERNMENT or HEAD OF STATE???

      A few questions like this (based on Islamic PRIMARY SOURCE TEXTS) demolish the hot, steaming, farm-fresh FALLACIES shovelled by Dalia Mogahed.

      She’s another TAQIYYA MONGER and CON ARTIST.

      • Thomas Arthur (sultan) says

        Nov 4, 2018 at 5:10 am

        Why don’t USA kick her out for the safety of Americans? If not put her into the prison. Fucking ugly bitch.

    • J D S says

      Nov 5, 2018 at 9:56 am

      She’s just been brainwashed. by the Muslim men in her life.

  2. PRCS says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 11:03 am

    Dear Dunderhead,

    Islam is based upon the BELIEF that Big Al REVEALED Qur’an, via Gibreel, to THAT Muhammad.

    For what logical reason should those your “complete way of life” so despises respect you?

  3. dan christenen says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 11:05 am

    Hijab for women is just like a condom for men.
    It functions indirectly as a means of birth control.
    Condoms for men by blocking the semen – Jihabs for women by blocking the men.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 3, 2018 at 1:18 pm

      No, dan, the veil’s purpose is FINANCIAL … to keep the money in the family via first-cousin marriage.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 3, 2018 at 4:49 pm

      That’s part of it, Mortimer–but Dan is also right that the Hijab tells Muslims who they can rape–all unveiled women.

  4. JW_Reader says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 11:34 am

    May be Dalia Mogahed does not need anyone to save her – thanks to her hijab. But western women sure needs saving – from Islam. Ask Lara Logan of CBS about what happened to Lara in Tahrir Square in Egypt (Mogahed’s birth country). Lara Logan was gang raped and suffered serious bodily harm while reporting for CBS. Mogahed should preach her ideas to her fellow countrymen and muslim brothers about saving people from Islamic aggression.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 3, 2018 at 1:21 pm

      JWR, Dalia Mogahed knows that she cannot maintain the brainwashing of other Muslim women if they talk about Islam’s extreme, Bronze-Age backwardness. They will abandon the veil and Islam.

      She is fighting her own doubts. She knows Islam is filled with inconsistencies, misogyny and amorality.

      Dalia Mogahed is experiencing cognitive dissonance, but she is not even admitting it to herself.

      • James Lincoln says

        Nov 3, 2018 at 4:41 pm

        Part of the reason that Muslims are so easily triggered and volatile is because of cognitive dissonance.

    • jule says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 4:26 pm

      You are right because disrespect & rape of women not wearing a hijab is just another form of conquest. Its like if you want to be safe, join our mafia, take the oath of death for a martyrdom or ‘betrayal’ (omerta) and follow our gangs rules. I feel embarrassed that when I was 20, traveling through Morocco in jeans and tank tops, my friend and I were so harassed that when we saw all the ‘catholic nuns’ (or so we thought at the time) were not bothered, we asked where we could borrow one of their habits to be left alone. Now I know better. It was better that we just left town, via Gibralter, (but Spain 1970s, was almost as bad with machismo). They pressured us into either being like them or else. Its another technique to Conquer. We were warned never to visit Turkey as blondes on their own were often captured for sex traffic.

  5. islamic text says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 11:46 am

    It is sunnah, because mo did it. it is form of respect
    Muhammad had sex with a dead Aunt
    • ” The Muslim legal text, al-Sharwani’s Hawashi, confirms that sex with a dead woman is not sinful or wrong according to Islamic law. This law is based on the example set by Muhammad. According to the hadith, Muhammad had sex with a dead woman before she was put in the grave.
    • The gravediggers were so embarrassed that they proceeded to bury the woman’s corpse and the prophet with dirt, exclaiming, “O Prophet, we see you do a thing you never did with anyone else.” Muhammad answered: “I have dressed her in my shirt so that she may be dressed in heavenly robes, and I have farewell intercourse with her in her grave so that the torments of the grave may be alleviated from her.” Recently a new law was proposed in the Muslim Brotherhood dominated Egyptian parliament. It would allow for “farewell intercourse” with a wife’s dead body. Obviously Muslims know very well about this demented practice by Mohammed. Postmortem sex is apparently a traditional value within Islam. Civilized people call it necrophilia and it’s a criminal act.
    Under definition of Fatawa , in Wikipedia
    In 2011-2012, Abdel-Bari Zamzami of Morocco issued a series of religious edicts that a man has the right to engage in sexual intercourse with his wife up to six hours after her death [47] despite recognizing that such an action is despicable in mainstream society, Zamzami persisted in backing his original fatwa, claiming marriage does not end in death.
    Yes and this is a civilized religion ??

  6. Raja says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 11:57 am

    Research can be very confusing as a lot depends on the wordings of the questionnaire to the respondents,

    This lady may not be the most intelligent person but she sure is deceitful enough to formulate a carefully- worded questionnaire. As long as she is NOT ashamed of Islam she will indulge in more and more taqiyya.

    It is Satan that makes her and the Muslim world believe that man must be programmed (and even forced) to do good and shun evil. But the true God says whatever your good deed you still need my grace and (your) obedience to escape transgression and the coming judgment…

  7. mortimer says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    Dalia Mogahed is conducting POLITICAL AGGRESSION, the jihad of the tongue and the jihad of the pen. Her goals are 1) to paralyze discussion of the POLITICAL GOAL of IMPLEMENTING SHARIA LAW upon the kafirs, and 2) to render the dirty kafirs IDEOLOGICALLY DISARMED and thus ideologically DEFENSELESS against her jihadic propaganda.

    According to Dalia Mogahed, no one has her permission to challenge any of her premises without being considered an UPSTART BIGOT. But who is the REAL BIGOT HERE?

    Dalia Mogahed is the bigot, but she craftily turns the tables by pretending to be a supporter of human rights. ISLAM’S JIHAD REMOVES THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES OF WOMEN AND KAFIRS.

    Dalia Mogahed is playing a very shrewd but DUPLICITOUS GAME and she is counting on the fact that no one realizes HOW MUCH SHE ACTUALLY *HATES* the FILTHY KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allah’.

    Dalia Mogahed is a hater who conceals her hate of the kafir and then accuses the KAFIRS of doing what she is actually doing, namely, to REMOVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES OF WOMEN.

    The fact that Muslim women are generally better educated than Muslim males is irrelevant and a RED HERRING. The Muslim males are still IN CHARGE due to Islam’s DISCRIMINATORY SYSTEMIC MISOGYNY and PATRIARCHY.

    Eventually, cleverer EX-MUSLIM WOMEN will shred all the SPECIOUS ARGUMENTS of Dalia Mogahed and show her to be the self-hating woman that she is.

  8. James Lincoln says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    “Eventually, cleverer EX-MUSLIM WOMEN will shred all the SPECIOUS ARGUMENTS of Dalia Mogahed and show her to be the self-hating woman that she is.”

    Mortimer, I certainly hope that your statement turns out to be true.

  9. gravenimage says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    Dalia Mogahed: “They don’t need you to save them from Islam. They need your respect.” (Part Two)
    ………………….

    Why should we respect those who embrace a creed that considers them to be deficient–and worse, that preaches conquering us and forcing us to submit to the horrors of Islam?

  10. somehistory says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    A few days ago, two young women were found in the Hudson River. They had been bound at the waist and feet with duct tape…bound together, facing each other. I thought at first reading that they were killed by a relative or other moslim due to something that was viewed as costing the family “honor.”

    Yesterday, I read that Ms. Geller thinks the same. She reported that they girls had applied for asylum, and the evil males of Saudia arabia had determined that the family return to that country.
    The two sisters had tried to escape from the family…more than once. They asked for assistance and pleaded not to be returned to their mother. They wanted to be “saved.” They deserve respect for trying to leave the evil cult of death to which their family adheres.
    The photos taken when they entered this country show both girls wearing the slave symbol on their heads…the symbol of subjugation.

    The words of this mogahed person…for some reason, her name reminds me of the snakes in the story of Rikki Tikki Tavi…should be exposed for the lies and garbage they are. Not just on these pages, but far and wide, wherever moslims are attempting to take over.

  11. Wellington says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 6:51 pm

    So, what does Mogahed think of women, Muslim or not, who don’t opt or want to wear the hijab? This, I believe, is an important question that should be asked of her since it is replete in Islamic scripture and law that good women are obedient and cover themselves (e.g., Sura 4:34).

    Yeah, well what about women who aren’t obedient (to men of course) and don’t cover themselves? Are they sluts, wanton women, deserving of Muslim men raping them? Oh yeah, “put this” query to this rank apologist for the misogynistic creed which is Mohammedanism.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 7:29 pm

      Good question, Mortimer.

  12. Arnold Jackson` says

    Nov 3, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    Anyone who wants respect needs to earn it. Muslims never earn anything but disdain.

  13. John Vic says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 1:20 am

    moslem, islam, Freedom for Women?? sorry, moslem and islam mean and always have meant OPPRESSION of Women. As under satanic islam, women are a man,s Property as Slaves for children, cleaning and sex and the Grand Mufti of Australia likened women to “Pieces of Uncovered Meat ” and 80% of the time, it is the woman,s fault if they are Raped. islam, a Satanic Barbaric Bigoted Subhuman Totalitarian Ideology whose 100% true followers of the quran are barbaric SAVAGES.

  14. BC says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 4:08 am

    “Muslim American women are among the most educated faith groups in the country, and outpace their male counterparts in higher education”.
    Among the most educated not the most educated there is a difference . I doubt she polled Chinese, Indian and Japanese women so her claim has doubtful value Many Muslim girls are married off in their teens and are not allowed higher education as that would mean them being in close proximity to young men. Definitely HARAM. I suggest that women as well educated as she is are a minority in Islam although she claims they outpace Muslin males in higher education, which does not say much for them does it?

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 7:30 pm

      Of course, Muslim women seldom have this kind of chance for a good education in the Muslim world itself. I wonder why? sarc/off

  15. Kay says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 6:39 am

    Her statement is meant to silence and disempower the truly compassionate feminists (men and women) in our country who truly value freedom for all.
    She twists their true respect, which means recognizing inherent dignity, making it out as bigotry or misguided compassion (pity). Even if she doesn’t silence the truly compassionate, she makes it less likely that others will hear them.
    Mohammedans twist the meanings of words.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 4, 2018 at 7:33 pm

      +1

  16. ronyvo says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 7:29 am

    Reading the comments here makes me feel good. Americans, who have never even heard the ugly word ISLAM, became very knowledgeable of it. I feel I should retire from my goal to expose Islam and it’s danger. Muslims are the most vicious enemy who lives amongst us.
    Since 9/12/2001 I have been writing, commenting, replying to the knowledge hungry Americans and to the severe Muslims criticism. When I started there was no sources to go to copy and paste. I had to type word for word from the Koran Hadiths and the Bible.

    My point?

    ISLAM IS ON LIFE SUPPORT, as I predicted back in 2001. It is taking longer than I expected, but it will happen, ISLAM WILL DIE.

    Keep the excellent work folks.

  17. Mirit says

    Nov 4, 2018 at 7:53 am

    Dalia is a Jewish name. Did her family convert to Islam?

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