He “committed jihad” by murdering three people? Oh, the “Islamophobia”! Surely Ibrahim Hooper and Pope Francis are on their way to Kazakhstan now in order to have a word with Dias Kadyrbayev, so that they can explain to him that jihad involves going to the gym and blowing milk bubbles through a straw, and has nothing whatsoever to do with violence.
“Court: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev pal offered testimony on Waltham slayings,” by Laurel J. Sweet, Boston Herald, November 22, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A college classmate of Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev offered to testify against him to federal prosecutors about his brother Tamerlan’s involvement in a triple murder in Waltham, according to stunning court documents just unsealed.
Dias Kadyrbayev, 24, may have hoped to testify against his pal as leverage.
Six days before Kadyrbayev pleaded guilty in 2014 to charges he obstructed the investigation of the 2013 Patriots Day terrorist attack, prosecutors informed Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s defense team that Kadyrbayev had divulged through his attorney he’d “learned in the fall of 2012 from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was involved in the Waltham murders,” and that Tamerlan “had committed jihad” in Waltham, the documents state.
On Sept. 11, 2011, Raphael Teken, 37, Erik Weissman, 31, and Tamerlan’s friend Brendan Mess, 25, “were bound, their throats were cut, and at least one of them had marijuana sprinkled over his body,” federal prosecutors stated in a follow-up motion that persuaded U.S. District Court Judge George A. O’Toole Jr. to bar any mention of the triple homicide at Dzhokhar’s 2015 terrorism trial….
The Waltham killings remain officially unsolved by the Middlesex District Attorney’s Office….
mummymovie says
You mean it wasnt a case of mental illness?
Andy says
ISLAM IS A MENTAL ILLNESS
Confronting JIHADIS at ISLAMIC terror site
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mvz8vhEGJc
FYI says
Avi Yemini 100…….dawah muslims 0
Do you know what really scares the dawah brigade?
Somebody who KNOWS THE TRUTH about islam,the koran and….worse!.. knows ARABIC…..
Speak Arabic to them,give them back their islamic hadiths,their koranic teachings:watch them collapse.Just see how they lose the plot when confronted by the truth about their “prophet”!!
muslims play this silly “oh but only Arabic speakers can know the koran”
{Lebanese Christians speak and read Arabic ..and many Jews do too!!}
{I would love to see somebody with a placard standing right by this jihad stand
“I have been made victorious through TERROR”
bukhari 4:52:22
Abu Dawud 4390 muhammed the mass murderer of Jews
sahih muslim 6985 islam’s plan for the Jews
Get the dawah boys to explain THAT away}
BTW do you see that dawah placard referring to Jesus?
It comes from koran 19 v 30 Maryam
{Please DO read Maryam 19 v 22-34..who knew a BABY INFANT could speak like an adult and was familiar with the Torah?}
JESUS THE TALKING BABY:Jesus is in a cradle{v 30) and ..guess what?
YES!the Baby Jesus speaks…
“he spake!Lo! I am the slave of allah .he hath given me the scripture and hath appointed me a prophet” k19 v 29-30
ahaha
Christians don’t believe that the baby Jesus could 1)speak 2)read the Torah or 3) even know what a prophet was.
But allah and his muslims think otherwise:remember that when you see that dawah sign claiming Jesus insisted on being a prophet of allah..that this bogus koranic statement from Jesus comes from a.. TALKING BABY IN A CRIB.
Andy says
Judeo-Christian Countries don’t want more Jihad murderers like Tamerlan Tsarnaev
The war on the border is real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpwl1KE9Noo
Trump Was Right, This is an Invasion!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fCcnf_kj4k
Andy says
Demographers Warn About America’s Changing Demographics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussiZcVDoaw
Indiana Tom says
On Sept. 11, 2011, Raphael Teken, 37, Erik Weissman, 31, and Tamerlan’s friend Brendan Mess, 25, “were bound, their throats were cut, and at least one of them had marijuana sprinkled over his body,” federal prosecutors stated in a follow-up motion that persuaded U.S. District Court Judge George A. O’Toole Jr. to bar any mention of the triple homicide at Dzhokhar’s 2015 terrorism trial….
Wonder what connections the Federal prosecutors had to higher government sources in all of this?
Cover up for political reasons?
Guy Forester says
Sounds like the judge is really O’Fool or just plain awful. Better check to see what Mueller and Comey had to do with this investigation. More cover up to hide the facts that someone in the know said and did nothing.
There is a reason for this, I am sure. Unfortunately we seem to have a government at war with itself over who is in charge, political parties more interested in retaining power and acquiring wealth, and judges more interested in rewriting or removing laws that do not jive with personal beliefs.
Meanwhile, you and I are taxed relentlessly to pay for wasteful and foolish government programs that never end, and wars that never end. When someone goes out and commits some massacre, despite ample warning signs, nothing is done. When the murder is committed, then you and I are told we are the cause and our rights need to be limited or removed.
Indiana Tom says
Totally agree. This just smells.
J D S says
More reasons go show the lack of knowledge of Islam by anyone in the court systems..either that or they are part and parcel of the Islamic infiltration.
gravenimage says
Actually, it is very common for judges to bar mention of previous crimes in trials so as not the “prejudice” the jury. One can agree with this practice or not, but it is not a sign that this is either inept or politically motivated. Really, it’s the norm in the United States.
Frank Anderson says
The phrase used to argue that certain true information should be withheld from the jury is that the “prejudicial effect outweighs the probative value.” The decision is made outside the presence of the jury, either in a pre-trial motion hearing, or with the jury removed from the room. If the defense somehow “opens the door” with some accidental close reference the prosecution can then demand that the remainder of the information be told. But if the prosecution breaches the order, a mistrial is declared and hopefully a new trial ordered. But, some cases have not gone to trial a second time because of the expense and uncertain outcome.
J D S says
Graven…I know this is the norm….but Islam is not the norm and judges should take that into consideration..but of course they nor anyone else in the government are going to take necessary action to stop infiltration is is lam into our world.
somehistory says
This is much like the whitey bulger case. He was a despicable criminal, but the investigator who worked his case was just as despicable. And now, bulger has been murdered in prison…after being moved there from where he was safe in a FL prison…where guards are in short supply.
The judge in this case must be cooperating with someone who has something to hide from the public. Otherwise, why go with the defense to kill the info…the guy on trial wasn’t the one who was said to be involved in the triple murder. But, perhaps he was involved.
gravenimage says
As I noted, it is quite common to bar references to earlier or suspected crimes in trials. Whether this should be the case is a separate issue.
somehistory says
Actually there are many different “rules” about allowing information in about previous crimes into a trail. Some info is not allowed at all, some is not allowed during certain parts of the trial process and some is allowed under certain circumstances.
Since the trial was not about the guy who said it, nor the guy he said it about, who was dead, this doesn’t fit the “usual” circumstances of causing the jury to automatically presume the defendant guilty because of “previous crimes.” The “previous crime” for which the dead guy had not been tried, was not said to be a “previous crime” of the guy who was on trial.
If he had committed it, some judges would have allowed it during the penalty phase. If the defendant was presented as an “honest guy,” and it could be shown by testimony that he had committed fraud…such as coming into the country or traveling with fake documents…or another crime of “dishonesty,’ then that could be used by the prosecution to disprove his claim of being an “honest guy.”
Sometimes, testimony of previous crimes are specifically allowed to show a “pattern.”
So, it depends on a lot of different things whether or not information/evidence of criminal activity can be brought in.
gravenimage says
I was thinking more of the Tsarnaevs themselves, who were still just suspected of having murdered these three men by the time of the Boston Marathon Bombing.
If the Tsarnaevs had been convicted of that triple murder, they would have been in prison and not out to commit more Jihad. in 2013
somehistory says
All of the reports I read did not show a suspicion of the older brother until after the bombing when relatives of the dead men came forward to say he knew the three men. Then, the Waltham police began to look at him, the guy who had his computer and the guy who confessed to the murders, but was killed by an FBI agent when he attacked while writing out his confession. All of this suspicion came after the bombing.
The point I made, to which you replied, was that there had to something in the judge’s mind that caused him not to allow the testimony about the dead brother…and forensic evidence against the younger one that had been developed by the time of trial…because there is no hard and fast rule about allowing evidence collected legally. Even some “fruit of the poisonous tree” can be allowed if “inevitable discovery” is shown.
If the family members and friends of the three dead men had come forward before the bombing, certainly the brothers may have been stopped before they could carry it out. But evidently they didn’t suspect the guy of murdering his “friends” until he was in the news for the bombing murders.
That was my point: that the judge had something in mind…and only he knows what it was…to disallow the testimony and the forensics against the murderer.
rubiconcrest says
Amateur detectives using what we have learned here at Jihad Watch could have put a case together shortly after the murder just simply interviewing friends of the victims. If I was a parent I would start with questions for those in charge of the initial investigation.
Phil Copson says
“…could have put a case together shortly after the murder just simply interviewing friends of the victims….”
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Remember that the police are starting from scratch, and don’t know who the victims’ friends were.
If the Tsarnaevs murdered three people, then it seems safe to assume that they are thugs who would already have had a reputation for violence. So mutual acquaintances of victim and killer don’t want to be the one who says to the police “Ask the Tsarnaevs what they know.” in case they find out who told the police about them, and take retribution.
Ashley says
Not sure of the original source to this but it sure has me scratching my head:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/110808673/raphael-m.-teken
Ashley says
Hmmm…
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2016/09/26/reniya-manukyan-wife-ibragim-todashev-indicted/
gravenimage says
Ashley, it is not unusual for families of murder victims to keep their gravesites secret, since they sometimes get sightseers.
As to Todashev’s wife, I’m not sure what the question is? It seems likely that Todashev was involved with the Tsarnaevs in the triple murder, and perhaps in the Boston Marathon Bombing, as well.
gravenimage says
Friend of Boston Marathon jihad murderer Tamerlan Tsarnaev testifies he “committed jihad” in 2011, murdering three
…………………….
Of course this was Jihad. Although at first considered to be murder in the commission of a robbery, this was soon ruled out, since quantities of marijuana and cash were found in the apartment, close at hand.
And all three victims were Jewish, two of them quite devout.
Tamerlane Tsarnaev knew all the victims well, and had quarreled with one of them, Brendan Mess, over “his lifestyle”.
This likely is a reference to him and his roommates selling weed.
More Muslim “morality” in action–minor weed dealing; beyond the pale–a savage triple murder; perfectly Halal.
merkexit says
yes, halal means immoral. islam has meant death to millions…
jihad is the root of nazi-jihad, and jihad remains after nazi.
the nazi-jihad continues.
ban jihad = ban islam.
gently but firmly open the eyes of those around you.
never submit.
never again.
Learn, teach and practice self defense.
mortimer says
Legal Definitions of Jihad from the ‘Reliance of the Traveller’ (manual of Sharia law)
– “Jihad is a communal obligation,” meaning upon the Muslims each year. [Reliance of the Traveller, Book O9.1]
Jihad is something Muslims must do against non-Muslims every year.
– RoT – O9.0: Jihad : (O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.
– RoT – O9.8: The Objectives of Jihad : The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians…
– RoT – O9.9 : The caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim (O: because they are not a people with a Book …
-The caliph (RoT – o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians
◦Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given (Jews and Christians and Zoroastrians) such as believe not in Allah. (K.9:29)
Official Definition of Jihad according to Saudi Arabia:
“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.” – footnotes on p.39, ‘The Noble Koran’, published by King Fahd Complex for Publication of the Quran, Madinah, KSA.
Michael Copeland says
“Stabbed in the neck” was how Boston police described the three victims at the time.
The Court papers above state they “were bound, their throats were cut, and at least one of them had marijuana sprinkled over his body,”
Years after the murders a Boston police spokesman said the victims’ throats had been slashed with such force that their heads had almost been severed,
“It was like something out of Al Qaeda”, he said.
And still Boston police failed to connect the dots.
See “A Triple Unsolved Murder: Unconnected Dots”, 20 May 2013, at Liberty GB site:
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/triple-unsolved-murder-unconnected-dots
Michael Copeland says
Apparently the two warnings the FBI had received about Tamerlane Tsarnaev, one from Russia and one from Saudi Arabia, had not been passed on to Boston police.
Angemon says
Due to ignorance of what they meant, because someone in the hierarchy didn’t want to be called “racist” or “islamophobe” or because someone in the hierarchy decided to cover for a fellow believer? We might never know…
Obbop says
When dealing with Moslem barbarians that violate ANY USA law within our borders especially the fiends need to be placed in front of military tribunals with civilian law not applying to the devils that desire to spread Islam across the planet. Ensure that Western standards of fairness DO apply. Our Western culture never wants to find the innocent guilty. If guilty, however, ensure the beasts can never harm any Westerner again.
rubiconcrest says
You are not the first to propose special courts be used for jihadists. I recall Walid Phares making a suggestion a number of years ago that special judges and courts familiar with Jihad should be used. I don’t think I would even trust military courts as judges there may not be any more informed than others on aspects of sharia and jihad.
sam says
Is there a reason this will not post
marc says
it was delayed as you are using a new IP or email address for manual moderation
Del says
Don’t tell Trudeau. He would quickly send a parka with a huge cheque in the pocket as another reward for a Muslim friend killing infidels.