Netanyahu asks: “What will be the future of Islam? Will the moderates win over the radicals? Will there be a reformation?”
The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS shows that there have been many reform movements in Islamic history, and since reformers are generally dedicated to getting a movement that they believe has gone astray back in line with its core principles, the Islamic reform movements have been violent and intransigent, not peaceful.
However, Netanyahu’s statement here is one of the very few public acknowledgements that Israeli leaders, or any non-Muslim leaders, have made of the fact that what Israel and the free world faces is not a quarrel over land or some other political problem, but is at heart a religious war. That is an extremely positive development, as policies should always be based on reality rather than fantasy, and our policies regarding Islam and jihad have been based on fantasy for decades. Maybe this is a sign that things are changing.
“PM Netanyahu Shocks Everyone with the Honest Truth about Gaza,” by Avi Abelow, Israel Unwired, November 28, 2018:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shockingly reveals the honest truth about the war taking place today with Gaza and around the world. Other world leaders will hate that he said this but he said the truth. While the rest of the world is still in denial, PM Netanyahu wastes no time in defining today’s war around the world as a religious war with Islam. No Western leader wants to admit that, but PM Netanyahu says it, and boy does he say it. In response to a question from a journalist during a Q&A session, PM Netanyahu just laid the truth right out there.
It’s Not About Gaza
Prime Minister Netanyahu made absolutely clear that the conflict with Gaza, the Palestinian Authority, Hizbullah, Al-Queda [sic], ISIS, Iran etc. are all one and the same. They are part of a religious war that some hundreds of millions of Muslims are waging against all of us, not just Israel.
He was quite clear that the war being waged against us all, all around the world, is the same. Hundreds of millions of Muslims are waging a religious war. Not all Muslims around the world, but enough for it to be a major problem for all of us freedom loving citizens of the world.
The problem is that most non-Muslims deny this fact. They don’t even want to go there. It is inconceivable to them that we would be having a religious war in the year 2018. And that is why the Muslims are winning because they are the only ones fighting the war with nobody stopping them….
PARTHA SARATHI CHANDRA says
What are moderate Muslims doing in this regard? Are they serious? Why are they silent when jihadis are warming up?
christianblood says
(…Netanyahu: “What we see in Gaza is a small manifestation of a larger problem of radical Islam…)
Then, why are you aiding and treating Al-Qaeda jihadists in Syria, jihadists that are even more dangerous than Hamas? Why are you so hypocritical Mr. Netanyahu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io4hcNZEePU
gravenimage says
As I have noted scores of times, Israel offers medical treatment to *everyone*–including Muslims waging Jihad against them.
christianblood constantly uses Israel’s charitable medical treatment of non-Israelis to condemn them.
And christianblood is a great supporter of the Jihad against Israel. Here he is all over this thread, lauding Hizb’allah’s Jihad museum:
“Hizballah operates ‘Museum for Jihadi Tourism’ in South Lebanon”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/09/hizballah-operates-museum-for-jihadi-tourism-in-south-lebanon
christianblood says
gravenimage posted
(…Israel offers medical treatment to *everyone*–including Muslims waging Jihad against them…)
NONSENSE! Like the US, Saudi Arabia, UK and France Israel spent billions of dollars on jihadists in Syria and Israeli officials openly confirm this on many occasions! A few months ago and with the urge of Trump and Trudeau Israel evacuated hundreds of “White Helmet” Al-Qaeda operatives from Syrian borders where they were about to be routed by the Syrian army! Watch Netanyahu himself speaks about this evacuation of these jihadists! Was evacuating hundreds of Al-Qaeda, head-chopping “White Helmets” terrorists from Syria’s borders also a humanitarian gesture or was it saving a large number of allied jihadists from certain death???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMuPzxXoEk
christianblood says
gravenimage
(…ISRAEL Secretly Armed and Funded 12 Syrian ‘Jihadist’ Groups- Israeli Media Reports…) More below:
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/syria/in-syria-israel-secretly-armed-and-funded-12-rebel-groups-1.6462729
gravenimage says
It’s quite true that Israel offers medical treatment to everyone.
Here are just one story:
“Hamas exploits entry of sick Gazans to Israeli hospitals to aid jihad cell plotting mass murder of Israeli civilians”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/hamas-exploits-entry-of-sick-gazans-to-israeli-hospitals-to-aid-jihad-cell-plotting-mass-murder-of-israeli-civilians
In fact, there have been many cases of Muslims paying back such humanitarian treatment with attempted Jihad terror attacks.
Phill Violette says
There are no moderate Muslims, they are all in on it!
infidel says
And what U see in Kashmir too… Ps add this too to Ur statement Mr Netanyahu
Andy says
Off Topic
George Soros’ Open Society Gets Kicked Out of Turkey!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5earopEPTy8
Andy says
What’s REALLY in the UN Migrant Compact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KA_SzIc1DA
Malcolm Jackson says
It will be a great day, if ever, when the UK’s Muslim ‘useful idiot’ Nigel Farage listens to Mr Netanyahu and learns the truth about the evil cult of Islam.
Barbara Collins says
How do we stop this? Seems every country now has Muslin’s. Even though they may be quite and friendly IF their leaders began killing and etc’ they, (even ones that has pretended to be our friend) will turn against us and kill. God is watching and waiting for Christians to turn to Him for salvation and knowledge of what to do in these troubled times, but we depend on the Government to do this. Those in our Government aren’t Christians. All they’re looking for is more power over “We The People”.. Pray people! Get on your knees and ask God to guide us and keep us safe in these troubled times. Ask Him how do we protect our families and self. Let us come together and talk about theses ungodly people and pray God will destroy them. Our pastors are quite concerning this danger. Bring this up in your churches, God is powerful and all knowing. He’s the same God that David depended on in war. He loves His people and we must put more trust in Him.. Please join me in fervent prayer for America and Israel and all Christians across the world. Netanyahu was placed in Israel’s Government by God and I believe he may have knowledge given to him by God. I pray that God will Bless America and Israel and protect us that love Him……..Won’t you join me? And remember Israel in your prayers. Doing so keeps God blessing America..
FYI says
islam is the religion of antiChrist.
1.It preaches hatred and violence,denies Christ and even denies God’s Wisdom
{koran 4:157,koran 4:171}
2.There are no two chief commandments in islam{found in Judaism and Christianity}No Golden Rule.
In fact,in violation of the 2nd chief Law we have allah telling muslims NOT to get along with Jews and Christians koran 5v51
3 the allah of the koran{“the best of deceivers” koran 3:54} is NOT the Biblical God!
4 muslims may want a global caliphate for allah gained by war,deceit,evil,enslavement and endless violence…but the Actual God already owns the world..remember that!
5 Bearing FALSE WITNESS to promote islam is the norm…taqqiya,kitman etc
The muslim dawah,who try to convert the misguided to islam,make false claims about Jesus to lure in the easily deceived..
I wish pastors and priests of ALL Christian denominations would read the Signs of the Times and respond seriously.
Matthew chpt 24,containing the prophetic teachings of Jesus Christ clearly predicts an apparent decline of Christianity BEFORE a time of Justice.
Matthew chpt 25 refers to those who ignore the prophetic warnings{the foolish bridesmaids}To have “oil for your lamp” means to know,understand and take seriously the reality of what is taking place.
Israel too is significant…Joel 3..and since allah is NOT the God of Israel it will not go well for the enemies of Israel if they think they can destroy it.Of course muslims don’t realize that their allah is NOT the God of Israel.
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Good news too:after the time of Trial{2 Thessalonians 2},comes the administration of God’s Justice{2 Thessalonians 1 v 5-10}.Christianity is not going to disappear.
What we have is the separation of the Wheat from the chaff which will culminate in the time of God’s Justice:everything you need to know,be you catholic or protestant,in regards to understanding the prophetic signs ….. is already available and clearly written down in the Bible…
If anyone is a religiously observant Jew or an authentic Christian,whatever you do in these times of trial,KEEP within the Biblical fold and adhere to God’s 10+2 chief commandments.
islam is NOT in the Biblical fold-{it CURSES Jews and Christians koran 9:30 and preaches contrary to God’s Exodus 20 laws:and of course there are no two chief commandments.No love for God or man in islam!)-islam is outside the ballpark and stuck in the 7th century
christianblood says
FYI posted
(..islam is the religion of antiChrist..)
True and so is liberal secularism! Liberal secularism led by the US and Islamo fascist jihadism led by Saudi Arabia are united at their (Anti-Christ) root! They are the two sides of the same satanic system!
gravenimage says
Actually, christianblood is fine with the horrors of Islam in Iran and with Hezbollah–he has demanded that “God bless Hezbollah!” many times.
Mr. Maxwell S. J. Fenton says
I understood we are at war unawares when I first began studying Islam at university three decades ago.
It moves in decades and centuries rather than lifetimes, it’s incredible but appears to draw in all the world’s fools, either through actually submitting or apologising and appeasing, even imprisoning those who speak truthfully about its machinations.
I wager it’s a wrathful, cosmic chaos, unleashed by a Meccan village idiot onto an unsuspecting world.
jewdog says
I hope Pope Francis has read this speech.
Norger says
Unfortunately It wouldn’t make a bit of difference if he had. Many, perhaps most, non-Muslims (the Pope most definitely included) simply “don’t even want to go there,” as Mr. Abelow points out in this excellent article. There is this deeply ingrained, moral certainty that it is just “wrong” to even consider the possibllity that Islam—being a a major religion—may pose a threat to society at large. even as the jihadists themselves openly declare, over and over again they are slaughtering innocent civilians in the name of their religion. The Pope is an appeaser, a terrorist enabler, a dhimmi. He’s a moral coward, a disgrace.
Emilie Green says
It really is hard for so many to admit the truth about Islam. Islam and its behaviors were born in the 7th Century. And are still there.
Today’s Muslims, like the Muslims of yesteryear, take the instructions of the Qur’an to heart. When that book says to kill the unbelievers should they refuse/reject Islam, then kill the unbelievers is what’s to be done.
“We don’t do that sort of thing anymore,” claim the willfully blind. Maybe Western cultures don’t, but Muslims do. Many who say such foolish and ignorant things might be remembering (from distant high school history classes) to the extremely bloody sectarian Thirty Years War (1818-1648) (which many view as a Catholic v. Protestant sort of thing), arguing that armed collisions among Christians is not seen anymore (conveniently forgetting The Troubles in No. Ireland, among others). It’s true that the breathtaking horror of the Thirty Years War has not been repeated among Christians, but the horror of religiously-motivated murders have continued unabated by Muslims.
Prabh says
Off-topic but v. important: in Canada the so-called “first nations” are being influenced by islam just like mestizos of centralamerica are taking up islam.
This is very dangerous for all non-muslims, especially the DharmiArya communities and our sympathizers, well-wishers and friends.
Be careful everyone: b dharmically correct -politically correctness and virtue signalling is for slaves.
Note: Actual Whites and Actual Sikhs ENDED all forms of slavery. Yet, Actual Whites and Actual Sikhs are being damaged the most by jihadists and their various miscreant allies through political correctness and misuse of language.
Speech is sacred. I Never regard Profit MohaMAD as ‘white’ – his followers have blood on their hands and Mohamad’s damaged followers all have the blackest of hearts. Profit MohaMAD is Teacher of Demons: his followers are rank materialists who wish to own (through hook or crook) all land, gold and women. For Dharmics Gold is Sacred Substance – Lord Brahma Composed Of Gold.
Prabh
Prabh says
note: woman cannot be owned – where woman and girls are dishonoured entire lineages come to an end. (Dharmic Law 101) Osho predicted ending of lineages. We are living in dangerous times. Please everyone stay safe and be vigilant at all times.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
It’s not like Netanyahu is saying “welcome to the club” to other Infidel nations far from the Holy Land. Not at all. He’s saying you’re already in the club whether you like it or not, and something must be done to stop the slide into the creeping mass of Sharia.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, APF.
Mark Swan says
Truly, we need to recognize soberly that the West is, indeed,
at war. Unwittingly, perhaps, with the entire “Islamic World”—
as they sometimes describe themselves.
Already, many surveys show that since the U.S.-led invasions
of Afghanistan and Iraq, Muslims almost universally have seen
the war against terrorism as a war on Islam.
After a cost to the U.S. of more than $2 trillion, after the
immeasurable suffering, countless executions, beheadings,
rapes, starvation, torture and nearly 500,000 people dead in
Iraq from war-related causes since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion,
the United States and her allies have largely abandoned
the region.
Little-noticed, amid the military escalation, is that the U.S.
has abandoned its decades-old “two front” strategy, in which
the nation kept itself prepared to fight, for example, a war in
the Mediterranean at the same time as another war in the Pacific.
This strategic change may portend real change in the not-too-
distant future, as the U.S. Pulls back in Asia, Europe and
The Middle East.
The caliphate is esteemed by ordinary Muslims. For most,
its revival is not an urgent concern. Many immediate
issues for Muslims are more pressing. But Muslims regard
themselves as members of the umma, or community of
believers, that forms the heart of Islam. And as earthly
head of that community, the caliph is cherished both as
memory and ideal.
.
The goal of reuniting Muslims under a single flag stands at the
heart of the Islamic ideology. In language evoking the Cold War,
President Bush had cast the conflict in Iraq as the pivotal battle
ground in a larger contest between advocates of freedom and
those who seek to establish ‘a totalitarian Islamic empire.
This is essentially the case, a Caliphate is entirely likely
with the Caliph coming from either Egypt or Saudi Arabia,
these two countries plus others can unite under such a Sunni
concept. A Caliphate may mean more trouble to Europe
than any where else—if Caliphate leadership there provokes
this sleeping Giant, Europe may not remain so restrained.
We may be witnessing history here—Europe could easily become
a Formidable Power—under the right pressure and leadership.
The massive attempts at immigration combined with Muslim-
inspired terrorist acts and the subsequent disruption for
Europe seem to be leading to greater conflicts between
Arab Nations and Europe in the years just ahead.
When the Europeans finally admit that Muslims hate them,
they will become more decisive in diplomacy and certain
not to allow any choking off of energy supplies—even
with Russia or anyone else backing it—the Middle East
Leaders had better know this now, rather than later.
Walter Sieruk says
Gaza is part of the whole picture of this awful conflict. To be even more clear the term “awful conflict” is to refer the this war between the forces of Islam and State of Israel. To explain this awful conflict in a better way, It may rightly be said the this is a war between the forces of Islam and Israel which exists because of the Will of God. As Psalm 135:4 reads “For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself. Israel for His special treasure.” [N.K.J.V.]
It should be made known that the Muslim terror organizations, Hamas , Hezbollah, P.I.J. etc. are all fated to fail in their Islamic agenda of destroying the State of Israel and replacing with Islamic “state.” The reason that they will lose in the end and lose hard is because the members of those jihad terror entities are striving against the Will of God. The members who compose those Islamic terror groups might be too ignorant to know this, nevertheless the truth is the God had given all this land that now composes the State of Israel, including all of the West Bank, to the Jewish people. This may be found in the Bible, as seen in, for example, Genesis 28:13-15. 35:10-12. Deuteronomy 32:48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. In other words the Jews have tall this land by Divine Right. Furthermore, the Jewish people should have this land by historic rights as shown in First Kings 4:20,21, 24,25. 8:55, 56. Still, in all fairness, there is one way for the Muslim members who make up Hezbollah, Hamas and the P.I.J. to convince God to change His Mind about being so much for Israel and then cause Him to turn His back on Israel and then have that nation be no more. That way is for the members of the jihad origination to gather together and then change the laws of astrophysics, including those laws of astrophysics the control the sun, the moon and the stars. For God had declared in His Word, the Bible, in Jeremiah 31:35,36. “Thus saith the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day and the ordinances of the moon and stars for a light by night…The Lord of host is His name. If those ordinances depart from before Me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before Me forever.”
Tom says
This is not a war about religious doctrine, if it were then we would be fighting 1.7 billion Muslims. This is a geopolitical war being waged by over 300,000,000 radical Muslims who want to impose their ideology on all the people of the world.
The propaganda of Islam being a “religion” of peace has been swallowed, hook, line and sinker, by the left and by politicians, of all stripes, who have been influenced by the covert operatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, who have entrenched themselves within political parties and have gained positions of influence within those parties.
Although a minority, estimates are that 20% of Muslims are radicalized, within the Muslim population, the sheer number of those working covertly (politically and within mosques) and overtly (Jihadists, migrants, ISIS type organizations) is overwhelming our political and cultural systems, especially considering that we who have educated ourselves to the threat that radical Islam poses, are few and that the vast majority of our fellow citizens are like the frog in the pot, being cooked without realizing it before it is too late.
Our only hope is that the populist nationalism that is rising will increase as more people awaken to the imminent threat that radical Islam poses to our very existence.
gravenimage says
Tom wrote:
This is not a war about religious doctrine, if it were then we would be fighting 1.7 billion Muslims.
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Tom, the majority of Muslims world-wide want the imposition of Shari’ah law–and the purpose of Jihad is to impose Shari’ah law. And Islamic law *is* on the basis of religious doctrine.
Most Muslims also seek the utter destruction of Israel.
I think it is more accurate to say that not all Muslims are actively engaged in Jihad; *very* few actually oppose it.
Norger says
I would add that those so-called “radicals” are not at all shy about telling us that from their standpoint, this is a “war; and that this war (i.e. jihad) in fact all about religious doctrine. Apart from the core of so-called “radicals” or jihadists, there are some number of Muslims who may not themselves participate in jihad terrorism, but who nonetheless support it, actively or passively. There are no doubt also some number of Muslims who are indifferent. Finally there are some number of Muslims who oppose jihad terror, actively or passively. From all appearances, the number of Muslims who actively oppose jihad terror is virtually non-existent.
gravenimage says
So true, Norger.
FYI says
Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jews,ever since the time of Solomon and David…and allah certainly knows of David.
“And Solomon was David’s heir” koran 27:16 as allah reminds us.
“And there were gathered together unto Solomon his armies of jinn and humankind,and of the birds,and they were set in battle order” koran 27:17
jinn?Or.. is allah thinking of Tolkien’s Orcs?
“Till,when they reached the valley of the ants,an ant EXCLAIMED O Ants!”Enter your dwellings lest Solomon and his armies crush you,unperceiving”koran 27:18
Yes…TALKING ANTS…O Ants!…..
Between muhammed’s human-headed flying winged horse-donkey Buraq and the black stone of mecca that someday will.. speak….{Jami at-timidhi 9:961}and the TALKING INFANT JESUS{koran 19:30}…what can we believe about allah’s ‘perfect’ book?
Did allah write ..the Lord of the Rings?
“We verily gave unto Tolkien the hobbit…”
gravenimage says
The Hobbit is actually a very moral story–so “Allah” had nothing to do with it.
Walter Sieruk says
That question /statement spoken by Natanyahu which was “What will be the future of Islam ? Will the moderate win over the radicals ? Will there be a reformation ? “To analyze and answer that statement of the question in two parts.
To answer the first part of the question “What will be the future of Islam ? Will the moderate win over the radicals ?” The reply this this it should be made clear that with Islam the terms “Radical” and “moderate” is actually a misuse of terms. This is because what In the Islamic mindset in the Muslim Middle East as well as in Indonesia and other Muslim controlled counties what many non-Muslims view as “radical and “extremist” the Muslims of those places in the world see as “Normal” and even Devout and committed to the Cause of Islam”. Likewise they view those who many no-Muslims see as “Moderate Muslims” those of the Islamic worldview and non-devout and non –committed Muslims. The violent jihadists even see them as “hypocrites.” Therefore, this explains the jihadist chant of those jihad-minded Muslims in different Islamic terror organizations. When they chant out loud “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” Meaning Death to people who and not Muslims and people who are non- jihadist Muslims.
To answer the second question statement which is “Will there be a reformation ?”
On the topic of a reformation within Islam, a very different yet possible valid and true view on this had been explain by the Christian, Nabeel Qureshi ,who was in the past was a Muslim .He wrote in his book which is entitled ANSWERING JIHAD wrote about the suggestion “that Islam needs a reformation .What they may not realize is that radical Islam is the Islamic reformation. This might sound shocking, but consider: Just as the Protestant Reformation was an attempt to raze centuries of Catholic tradition and return to the canonical text, so radical Islam is an attempt to raze centuries of traditions of various schools of Islamic thought and return to the canonical text of the Quran and Muhammad’s life. This desire to return to the original form of Islam can be seen not only in the words of Sayyid Qutb, but also in his method. He focused almost entirely on references to the Quran. it is true also of the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS today, whose publications and proclamations are punctuated by references to the Quran and Hadith literature. Radical Muslim organizations are explicit in their aim to reform Islam.” page 75. Further on pages 79,80 the author makes his case clear by writing that “Radical Islam is the Islamic reformation . The endeavor to modernize Islam and make it relevant to the twenty -first century is called progressive Islam. Progressive Muslim thought leaders, though few in number and limited in influence are present and are working to recreate Islam’s religious framework from within. Indeed, that is what it would take for Islam to become devoted to peace – not reformation but reimagination. “
Rachael Montague says
Finally the truth. So sick of leaders beating around the bush when it comes to Islam. Islam is a cult that kills/enslaves people who won’t join, kills those who leave, and directs its followers to take over the world by deceit and violence. Sorry kuffar- Islam is not going to toss the Koran/Hadiths/Sunnah to “reform” into something else. #IslamIsTheProblem
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr spencer, you mean mass killings of Palestinians pursuant to obnoxious Talmud is not a religious war?. Remember, according to mithraist pagan Bible in Samuel 15:3 and evil talmud ,the evil Jews have been mandated by the Satan in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods of evils to erase other races from Palestine to settle there ,and today this is exactly what fascist evil zionists have carrying out on palestinians for resisting illegal occupation of their land. In Islam, there is no prescription for annihilation of a race for another race to settle, jihad is a means of resistance not to exterminate the oppressor but check his excesses. so, the leader of all evils Netanyahu should reform the obnoxious Talmud pursuant to which he is slaughtering Palestinians as part of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to annex Palestinian land. wicked scums of evils!!
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr spencer, you mean mass killings of Palestinians pursuant to obnoxious Talmud is not a religious war?.
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All the Israelis do is defend against Jihad terror attacks by Muslims. There is no mass killing of Palestinians.
More:
Remember, according to mithraist pagan Bible in Samuel 15:3 and evil talmud ,the evil Jews have been mandated by the Satan in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods of evils to erase other races from Palestine to settle there ,and today this is exactly what fascist evil zionists have carrying out on palestinians for resisting illegal occupation of their land.
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Where to start? There is nothing in either the Bible or the Talmud about “Ashera hero gods”. This ancient near eastern Goddess has nothing to do with Judaism at all.
Then, the Jews have lived in the Holy Land for over 3,000 years Claiming that this land belongs to invading Muslims is ludicrous. But then, Ibrahim itace muhammed hs said before that no land ever invaded by Muslims can ever be ruled by the rightful inhabitants ever again.
More:
In Islam, there is no prescription for annihilation of a race for another race to settle, jihad is a means of resistance not to exterminate the oppressor but check his excesses.
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“His excesses”–in other worlds, the democratic state of Israel. And even this is false–Muslims do not just want to destroy civilized Israel; Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews.
More:
so, the leader of all evils Netanyahu should reform the obnoxious Talmud pursuant to which he is slaughtering Palestinians as part of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians to annex Palestinian land. wicked scums of evils!!
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This has nothing to do with the Talmud, of course. What Ibrahim itace muhammed is saying here is that Netanyahu and the rest of the Jews should supinely roll over for their murder at the hands of his savage coreligionists.
gravenimage says
Netanyahu: “What we see in Gaza is a small manifestation of a larger problem of radical Islam”
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Except for a small quibble over his use of the term “radical”, Netanyahu is spot on.