Hanif is a Pakistani novelist, and so it is perhaps understandable that he may wish to observe Islamic blasphemy laws, but why is the New York Times, which is supposedly a journalistic outlet in a nation that upholds the freedom of speech, validating his doing so?
“There are many versions of what led to the charges against her, but all revolve around a verbal altercation with Muslim neighbors in Punjab, an eastern province, about drinking water from the same vessel. Some Muslims won’t share utensils with non-Muslims, a belief that has more to do with (Hindu) casteism than (Islamic) scripture.”
Nonsense. It comes from this Islamic scripture: “O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean…” (9:28)
And then there is this hadith: “It was narrated that Abu Tha’labah Al-Khushani said: ‘I came to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) and said: “O Messenger of Allah, we live in a land of the People of the Book and we eat from their vessels. And we live in a land (where there is) game, so I hunt with my bow and with my trained dog and with my untrained dog.” The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “As for what you say about living in a land of the People of the Book, do not eat from their vessels unless you can find no alternative. If you can find no alternative then wash them and eat from them….”‘” (Sunan Ibn Majah 3328)
This hadith is graded by Islamic scholars as sahih, or reliable. Was it, too, a product of “Hindu casteism”? When the Muslims invaded and conquered India, they pursued a policy of unremitting hostility toward the Hindus, as I show in detail in my book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. They were unlikely to pick up theological notions from the Hindus they despised and derided as idolaters.
Hanif also says: “We can never know what she may or may not have said because repeating blasphemy is also blasphemy, and writing it down may be even greater blasphemy. So let’s not go there.”
Why not? In the United States we don’t have blasphemy laws — at least not yet. Criticizing Islam and even jihad terror will get you smeared and shunned as a bigot and an “Islamophobe,” and deplatformed and refused service, but it is technically not illegal. And contrary to Hanif’s claim, what Asia Bibi said isn’t unknown or hard to find at all. She recounted in August 2013:
I, Asia Bibi, have been sentenced to death because I was thirsty. I’m a prisoner because I used the same cup as those Muslim women, because water served by a Christian woman was regarded as unclean by my stupid fellow fruit-pickers.
Picking fruit with a group of Muslim women, Bibi was ordered to fetch water for them – and drank a bit of it herself in the stifling heat. A Muslim woman rebuked her for doing so, saying to the other women: “Listen, all of you, this Christian has dirtied the water in the well by drinking from our cup and dipping it back several times. Now the water is unclean and we can’t drink it! Because of her!”
Bibi stood up to her, responding: “I think Jesus would see it differently from Mohammed.” That drove the Muslim women into a fury, and they started yelling at Bibi: “How dare you think for the Prophet, you filthy animal!” That’s right, you’re just a filthy Christian! You’ve contaminated our water and now you dare speak for the Prophet! Stupid bitch, your Jesus didn’t even have a proper father, he was a bastard, don’t you know that. You should convert to Islam to redeem yourself for your filthy religion.”
The embattled woman stood her ground, responding: “I’m not going to convert. I believe in my religion and in Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for the sins of mankind. What did your Prophet Mohammed ever do to save mankind? And why should it be me that converts instead of you?”
For that, she was sentenced to death, held in prison for years, and now mobs in Pakistan are demanding that she be publicly murdered. And the New York Times, instead of standing for the freedom of speech, is validating the blasphemy laws that have destroyed this poor woman’s life.
“Blasphemy, Pakistan’s New Religion,” by Mohammed Hanif, New York Times, November 2, 2018 (thanks to Vikram):
KARACHI, Pakistan — After spending eight years on death row, Asia Bibi, a Christian, was acquitted by Pakistan’s Supreme Court this week. For many here it seemed like a good day. The country’s highest court had finally delivered justice and released a woman whose life has already been destroyed by years in solitary confinement. The court decision quoted Islamic scriptures, bits of letters by the Prophet Muhammad and a smattering of Shakespeare. A great wrong was righted.
And that’s why Pakistan’s new religious right, which has rebranded itself as the protector of the Prophet’s honor, has threatened to bring the country to a halt.
To describe these bloodthirsty jihadists, mad for the blood of one poor and defenseless woman, as the “religious right” is simply to defame conservative Christians in the United States by association. The New York Times’ editors knew that very well when they published this.
…Bibi probably didn’t even know what blasphemy was when she was accused of committing it. There are many versions of what led to the charges against her, but all revolve around a verbal altercation with Muslim neighbors in Punjab, an eastern province, about drinking water from the same vessel. Some Muslims won’t share utensils with non-Muslims, a belief that has more to do with (Hindu) casteism than (Islamic) scripture. We can never know what she may or may not have said because repeating blasphemy is also blasphemy, and writing it down may be even greater blasphemy. So let’s not go there….
Anjuli Pandavar says
(expletive)
Lydia Church says
Oh, you know me… I’m gonna “go there”!
It’s the muslims who are guilty of blasphemy any time they recite their beliefs.
They are the ones who dirty up everything. The women who attacked Asia
are the ones guilty of blasphemy, and Asia only spoke the truth.
The Christians are the ones speaking the truth about the things of God.
We are a royal priesthood and a holy nation under the Lord as the Bible says.
If anything the water would have become cleaner!
(All believers who truly are saved.)
To the women at the well who attacked Asia Bibi I say:
“How dare you think for God, you filthy animals!” That’s right, you’re just a bunch of filthy muslims! You’ve contaminated our water and now you dare speak for the Lord! Stupid bitches, your mohammed didn’t even have a proper father, he was a conceived as a bastard, don’t you know that? He was deceived by satan in a cave! You should convert to Christianity to redeem yourself for your filthy religion of islam!”
I will not repeat the blasphemy of the women who attacked Asia, I will simply set the record straight concerning what is true about God, which is exactly what Asia has already said.
Shame on anyone who perverts the truth backwards from what I stated above, NYT or anyone else!
ken says
Well said
mortimer says
Asia indeed spoke well, if those were her words.
Just what did Mohammed do for mankind?
The hadiths show that everything Mohammed did benefited himself and his appetites for dominance, sadism, lust, greed, robbery, necrophilia, pedophilia, gluttony and manipulation.
Mohammed’s life is the portrait of a SOCIOPATH.
jewdog says
Well now, what’s happened to this woman, as per the NYT, is really not so bad. You can blame it all on the Hindus and the Republicans. Anything else would be blasphemy.
Mac-101 says
A couple years ago Carlos Slim, the richest man in Mexico (How dirty is he?) bought up a large share of the New York Times. Now I read Soros has also bought a big chunk to spread his propaganda that he is a bleeding heart philanthropist instead of the dirty Cold Hearted financial, domestic and international terrorist that he is! Workin with the MSM to destroy Western Civilization to replace it with Satan’s NWO!
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Git out and VOTE Tuesday and bring a car full of other voters. This vote is dead serious. If these Neo Bolsheviks ever gain complete power THEY will murder Millions of Americans and Billions around da World. THEY do it every time THEY gain total power!
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G-d bless this woman. If we only had her faith. I can only imagine what she went through in 8 years in a Paki Prison! As for Hanif, no matter how Liberal THEY pretend to be, what a good neighbor THEY are, when the chips are down THEY will turn you over to the Islamic Mob!
WPM says
The New York slimes would put the blame on Trump if she is killed in Pakistan by an angry mob. It is blasphemy for the New York Time to blame Islam for any violent actions perform by Moslems ,because they are following the doctrine as written in the Koran and Hadiths. The Times follows the libtard view all ills of the world all violent actions by mobs ,terrorist groups , lone wolves ,are directly link to Trump in some way or matter. If a a giant boil appear on the ass of the chief editor of the New York Times he would blame Trump and or Trump supporters.
mummymovie says
You said it!
The New Sharia Times in impressive contortions I noticed, is even trying to set the stage to blame Trump for the purported joint-suicide of the two Saudi girls found in the Hudson. No story line is too far fetched them in this regard anymore.
Outrageous, the NYT twisting the story to shift the blame onto Hindus, and allowing information about this highly newsworthy story to be suppressed. This is not journalism.
Sickening, how the NYT, Wall, NBC, 60 Minutes, etc. all portray and prop themselves up as the persecuted “the Free Press”; as vanguards in relentless pursuit of “the Truth” toiling after it in the sacred paractice of “journalism”, and anyone who criticizes them, or suggests any less is a fascist.
What a farce!
They will stop at nothing to clean up after, whitewash, and cover for muslims and islam, and shift blame whenever possible in an attempt to keep up appearances and obscure islam’s never ending barbarism, not thinking twice about disingenuously demonizing Hindus, Christians, and even BUDDHISTS (Myanmar/Rogingya) whenever it suits that continued purpose.
Disgusting.
James Lincoln says
mummymovie,
Agree. As an experiment, I went to the library and read major mainstream media newspapers and news magazines from 30 years ago. I did the same experiment with videos on YouTube.
Although the mainstream media has always leaned left due to the sentiments of people who tend to enter journalism, their message is now nothing like it was 30 years ago.
Today, mainstream media is only good for weather reports, sports scores, Wall Street updates, etc. Any reporting that involves any sort of judgment is now very heavily biased left – totally untrustworthy.
At least we have Fox as an alternative, not perfect but way ahead of the traditional mainstream media. And of course we have websites like Jihad Watch.
mummymovie says
Yeah, the good old days, eh?
These news outlets have had their time, and their day has passed, and this is evidenced by the absolute meltdown we have watched them writhing and twisting through daily since Trump was elected. Through this, they have exposed themselves as very obviously having a common agenda: to bring down and otherwise destroy the President by finding anything they possibly can to further tarnish, smear, or tie him to by association. This is not journalism.
I’m sorry, but it very plainly is not journalism. They are not the objective arbiters of the truth they claim to be; they have lost all their credibility with regular folks, and continue to shoot themselves in the proverbial foot with their shameless, ongoing hormonal tirade and smear campaign against Trump and his supporters.
What’s worse is that they don’t seem to care! This is all about bringing down the Prez.
This goes for NBC, CBS, WaPo, NYT, Time Magazine, and many more.
It is their time to go, or relinquish and cede control to someone who will try to get these organizations back to some semblance of truly objective journalism.
Censorship and agendized omission are unacceptable.
And sadly, Fox News doesn’t really cut it, but websites like this are invaluable while the internet is still relatively free here. But the Marxist/leftist intelligentsia is now, through blacklisting and censorship, chiseling away at that, too.
Thanks for the comment, James.
R Russell says
One woman against the whole world. Please, someone allow her in.
Lilith Wept says
I read that several countries have offered her asylum…..but the mob of moslems in Pakistan is determined to kill her and they are pressuring the Goverment, judges and lawyers to keep her from leaving the country.
If Trump put pressure on Pakistan and sent a plane it’s the military to escort her and her family to the US , and granger her refugee status, asylum, , I would be happy to open my home to her and her family. She is my sister in Christ. It’s what my God would want me to do ..,it’s what Jesus would do ….
And it would make me happy to be able to help her and show her how good a life she could have in America.
And the head of every Christian denomination in America should be demanding Asia Bibi be released to the US ( they should be doing this for all Christians in oslwm lands) and they should offer sponsorship m help to find a job, house , getting them set up with stuff for daily living and helping the, deal with the US. And they should, give them money….After Obama gave money , publ8c assistance to all the moslems he a,Lowe’s to flood in our country…
I am deeply ashamed that American Christians arent doing more and aren’t making their anger at Asia’s treatment known…
Halal Bacon says
Religion of peace? What a farce,
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libertyORdeath says
It seems from her response that she knew EXACTLY what blasphemy is. She could have said something more inflammatory but she followed the example set by her religion and stuck to the facts of the matter.
This is what the Islamists were most “offended” by regarding her speech. She put them in their places and asked them a reasonable question – which for a Muslim is the worst thing u can do. Especially if u are a woman.
Fuck Pakistan!
Jaladhi says
Never ever trust a Muslim, whether he is fiction writer for NYTimes or a some fruit picker Muslimas!!
dumbledoresarmy says
The New York Times should be asked, sweetly and politely, whether they think that Muslims would be justified in publicly and judicially murdering this woman.
Ellie says
During the 1960’s as the far left activist judges, that had come out of communist/Marxist dominated Ivy League schools, were gaining majorities within the highest courts in the land the judicial landscape of the country was taken over by these elites whose sole desire it is to overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America. The decision of a handful of men, after 200 years of Christian based education, was to throw our history upside down and state that the US government is a totally secular entity based not on historical precedents but based upon a few lines in an obscure letter written by Jefferson years after he had left political office! They opened the doors of the rest of the American educational system to far left activist academics who went into that educational system and did a major purge of not only Christianity but also anything slightly related to it such as all morality, ethics, civics, as well as any form of patriotism. Instead of teaching fact based American history revisionist history thought up by these radical leftists replaced truth. Instead of preparing students to become useful citizens of this country the entire system has been dumbed down and the most archaic methods of instilling information into young minds have replaced sound methods of education.
Although we are supposed to have a totally secular educational system we have public schools not only teaching Islam but also promoting it! In areas where tens of thousands of fundamentalist Muslims from some of the most backward sharia ruled areas of the world were dropped off by the Bush and Obama administrations we now have public schools providing halal foods, foot baths and prayer rooms for Islamic students! Yet a Christian student has the threat of suspension should he/she bow their head in prayer over their food! Do you really think that this is still the same country that it was 50 years ago? The judiciary branch of our government has been hijacked by these communist/Marxist/globalists! They have been ILLEGALLY legislating through the courts ever since they went unchallenged after their takeover of the American educational system!
Because the elites of the Ivy League Schools caused those elitist schools to become the womb of the leftist movement in this country the nation has been taken over from within! It sickens me to hear how religious people say that “the nation has rejected God!” No, the nation never voted for any of the abominable changes that have taken place in this country, however, the Christian Church did sit silent as all these changes have taken place! These radically far left activists have been educating the future leaders of the country since early in the 20th century! The elites of finance and industry along with the politicians that they own have stripped this country of its wealth through the globalization of the economy! Instead of the American people being the backbone of this country huge multinational foreign manufacturing corporations, big banks and big money people now own and control over 60% of the economy! They have used our capitalist system to enrich themselves while pushing Americans into poverty! During the 60’s despite haven’t fought a world war only a little over a decade before the US Treasury actually had millions of dollars within it! Today the country is over 20 TRILLION DOLLARS in debt thanks to globalization and the illegal wars fought by corrupt presidents! The New York Times is owned by people who censor the flow of information! Our media and “entertainment” industry are now as censored as the media of the former Soviet Union and present day communist China. These traitors have built communist China into a super power that is now a threat to the US both economically and militarily! Do you hear that being spoken of in the media? Do you hear about the reason why these industries and big banks manufacture in communist China and third world countries on the other side of the globe instead of here? Is it because they are doing a service for the poor people over there??!!! NO! The labor over there has zero say in their day to day lives much less their working conditions or wages!! The workers are paid slave labor wages and work as slaves! Do you know where most of that frozen fish sold in American grocery stores is processed?? Out on a barge way out in the ocean around China where people are forced to live for sometimes years at a time! Some never see their homes again but die out there! The Chinese government was able to bid far lower on those fish processing jobs because they use slave labor! You can see beautiful China in the tourist areas but you will never see deep inside China where the manufacturing is done! China and India are now tied for the title of most polluted country in the world! Do you hear about that on the news?’ Does anybody even care! No! They have people fighting over the most stupid issues over here and can tell the most outlandish lies because they have so dumbed down the population and refused to speak the truth!
johan ives says
this woman should be offered asylum in a safe place, maybe America, as muslims have infiltrated every country at every level of government where they can snake their way in.
what a sham; pakistan should be ashamed of themselves for destroying this woman’s life and her family. this is so ridiculous it isn’t even explainable, but, of course, islam is not explainable. islam lives an unnatural way according to God’s plan for humans,;cut off women’s parts, stone women and some men, rape little boys and girls, men have no honor but it is ok to do honor killings of females, that makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? guess virginity applies to women only, right arabs??? arab men do not understand the word of honor if you slapped them in the face with it.
Kay says
New York Times?
Who is the editor?
Does Hanif have a job there? If so, why does he still have it?
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
“… because repeating blasphemy is also blasphemy, and writing it down may be even greater blasphemy.”
I’m always amazed at the sanctity that muslims and the left show allah and his demented killer prophet. How do you blaspheme such a god? with a compliment? by saying something intelligent or tolerant? That’s why I enjoyed David Wood’s Islamacize Me “mockumentary” so much, it did such a good job of stripping away that sacred veneer that surrounds their violent and retarded superstition so often called a religion of peace. I get so tired of the rest of us normal folks always having to tip toe around the dumbbell nonsense and prejudices of muslims. This whole incident with poor Bibi shows all too well just how mentally challenged some (most?) of these muslims are. It makes perfect sense to them that a woman should die because she drank some water to quench her thirst and to hold her own religious views. A true religion of god would have taught her accusers to be compassionate and pity her “ignorance” about religion. But islam is not really about compassion or spiritual discernment, it’s about power and control and conformity for a bigoted demon. But quite amazingly I’m not supposed to care that muslims are importing this insanity into my nation! I guess we’re supposed to think they suddenly become intelligent and rational the moment they step foot on our soil. Wrong, they perpetuate these prejudices generation after generation. We see this in Europe, they don’t change. They are as steadfast in their retarded beliefs as the day they arrived, they continue with their lifestyle as if we don’t even exist.
It seems impossible that people can be this narrow minded and stupid, but this is what islam teaches from childhood. And now their insanity is making their leftist sympathizers insane too, as they arrest and destroy people for simply offering opinions and facts about a brutal and retarded religion that ain’t a religion. The leftist politicians and media are like pornographic lovers in their mutual respect for all things islam. Thanks to their help islamic intolerance and intimidation has infected every nook and cranny of Western civilization. Muslims have 10’s of thousands of mosques and community centers and schools that teach the same ignorant and hateful teachings as in the worst islamic hell holes, their dinner table is a petri dish of “infidel” hate for the faithful. It’s the same bigotry that put Bibi in prison and it’s the same bigotry that put Tommy in prison too, and thousands of other people who have every right to speak against a religion that overtly threatens their existence. Thousands are dying every year for islamic intolerance and millions are suffering for the oppression it causes. When the left silences our voices about this they are complicit in the murder and suffering of millions. They are evil people in my opinion because they are working for evil. Their actions are worthy of violent take over, I am astonished at the restraint Europeans and Brits have shown for their corrupt overlords. But I reckon it won’t be like this forever. I see stormy clouds ahead, it’s going to rain heavy on their Mephistophelian heads.
WPM says
David Wood will be debating Mohammed Hijab in Queens NYC on 11/7/18 ,I am looking forward to seeing this on the internet.
Trinity VS Tawhid
A says
After reading the entire NYT opinion article, I have concluded that Robert Spencer is wrong on this one.
Although Hanif’s use of “religious right” is troubling (what happened to calling them “fundamentalists”?) he is in fact taking issue with the blasphemy laws and the influence of the fundamentalists in Pakistan. In fact, by stating that he will not repeat in writing what Asia Bibi said because putting it in print would be considered “greater blasphemy”, he is taking aim at the “religious right”.
Furthermore, Hanif wrote an opinion article. This is not from the NYT newsroom and can therefore not be presented in terms of the NYT refusing to repeat Bibi’s alleged blasphemy.
revereridesagain says
Ahem. Before we wax too virtuous over how We Would Never Allow Laws Like That To Exist In Our Legal System! explain to me why no one has been able to repeal the 17th century Puritan blasphemy law in Massachusetts, and I know people who have tried. It seems technically millions of us could still be imprisoned and fined for what we yell when we stub our toes, because other millions of devout believers in imaginary beings scream that their feelings are being hurt and to hell with our rights. (I think technically I could be fined for that ‘hell”.)
Asia Bibi is mentioned in this article, in a cautionary sense. What a situation. We have the Left defending the “right” of Muslims to criminalize “blasphemy” under Sharia, and here in the nation of the First Amendment we still have enough people with Puritan minds to keep a milder version of such laws on the books.
https://commonwealthmagazine.org/opinion/outdated-state-laws-hard-repeal/
By the way, if you want to read the US law in question just search for “Massachusetts blasphemy law”.
Terry Gain says
President Trump should privately demand of Pakistan’s leaders Bibi’s safe passage to America.
t says
I agree,Terry. I think that it’s the only way to secure her life and that of her family.
Why the whole world, apart from relatively a very few no. of people, is watching this stupidity and pure evil in silence? It’s surreal!
vlad says
I would love to see that. Prez Trump would be the ONLY man on this here planet with the intestinal fortitude to help this poor woman and her family.
Europe’s “leaders” are expelled “guts’ ready to be flushed down the gurgler.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
And if necessary, give her – and her family – passage on Air Force One, with an honour guard of American Marines. No less.
THAT would send a message to the entire Ummah, and then some.
Tom says
It appears that Islam has certainly terrorized The New York Times.
The jellyfish that are main stream media “journalists” are so afraid of retaliation by Islamic jihadi’s that they cower in the dark corners of their offices, sucking their thumbs and wimpering, allowing the threat of retaliation to gain traction.
For your own sense of pride stand up like the men and women who have fought against tyranny, even though they were afraid.
Charles says
NY Times prints its rag in the land of free expression. They understand nothing of the principles ensconced through the blood of free souls, that protect the inalienable right to do so. Arthur Sulzberger is an embarrassing, feckless little coward compared to his ancestor David Hays of White Plains who fought along side of, and was a friend of George Washington.
infidel says
It is the CRIMINAL LEFT MEDIA that gives vital O2 and nutrients to these Koranimals..
Lydia Church says
The muslim women are the ones guilty of blasphemy against God.
And anyone who agrees with them.
Asia Bibi spoke the truth about God.
Christianity is the truth.
The muslim women are the ones who dirty up the water, not Asia.
Now to rectify the blasphemy into the truth, which is addressed to the attacking women at the well:
“How dare you think for God, you filthy animals!” That’s right, you’re just a bunch of filthy muslims! You’ve contaminated our water and now you dare speak against the Lord! Stupid bitches, your mohammed didn’t even have a proper father, he was a bastard, conceived by a harlot, don’t you know that? He was deceived by satan in a cave and that is how islam was born. You should convert to Christianity to redeem yourself from your filthy religion of islam!”
gravenimage says
New York Times refuses to repeat what Asia Bibi said “because repeating blasphemy is also blasphemy”
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When has the New York Times ever recognized “blasphemy”?
And why does it consider confessing a love of Jesus to be blasphemous? Have they now accepted Shari’ah law?
Good lord…
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr spencer, what this mithraist christian lady was alleged to have uttered as contained in the charge sheet is more than such altercation between her and Muslim lady ,and in her defence she never raised the issue that the Muslim lady insulted Jesus by calling him a bastard, but Bibi insulted Prophet Muhammad. Had it been that the Muslim lady insulted Jesus by calling him a bastard she can be charged for blasphemy punishable with death because under sharia law insulting any of the prophets is punishable with death .
The conviction of Bibi was set aside by the Supreme Court on technical ground that there has been no proof beyond reasonable doubt that she uttered such blasphemous words contained in the charge sheet.
WPM says
More bullsh*t from Ibrahim itace muhammed
1-No Moslem in Pakistan has ever been charge with blasphemy against Jesus ever, name one
2-you curse and blasphemy Christians ,and the Jews in your daily prays 5 times a day
3-Even though she was found no guilty the rioting Islamics are calling for her death, her families death, the judges who ruled she is not guility death how do you feel about that should she and everyone involved be killed by a street mob. After all it was just “technical grounds”.
5-What she did was drink water from a bucket the other women picking fruit with her were going to share. She was called unclean because she is a Christian woman ,she said Christ does not think she is unclean like Islamics have been taught about Christians to be. You have called Christians women unclean on this website many times .You have curse and blasphemed Christ, the Holy Sprint, Jews, Hindus , yet you want respect and for all others and for them to say nothing about your allah Mohammed,s hand puppet god ,an excuse for raping, murdering ,slave making , unbelievers.
6-You should move to Pakistan you fit right in with the wild screaming rioting Moslems demanding a blood sacrifice to the grand moon god allah Pounding your head on the ground screaming your cursed prays to your slave master unloving unforgiving god. You would be right at home with the tribe violent , the filth, poverty that is the country Pakistan. You might even enjoy the different smells you talk about in a country that is over 90 percent Islamic the open sewer it is.
gravenimage says
The appalling ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr spencer, what this mithraist christian lady was alleged to have uttered as contained in the charge sheet is more than such altercation between her and Muslim lady ,and in her defence she never raised the issue that the Muslim lady insulted Jesus by calling him a bastard, but Bibi insulted Prophet Muhammad.
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By saying that the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed is not the Savior and for affirming her love for him; the savage Ibrahim itace muhammed believes that Muslims have the right to murder her.
And why does he consider it a good thing that this Muslim woman faced no charges for insulting Jesus? If he were really believed that insulting Jesus was blasphemous, why would he take this stand? Of course, he would not.
More:
Had it been that the Muslim lady insulted Jesus by calling him a bastard she can be charged for blasphemy punishable with death because under sharia law insulting any of the prophets is punishable with death .
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But, of course, this Muslimah has not been imprisoned for years under threat of death–only the Christian woman has. Likely in any case she would claim that she was only insulting the Christian concept of Jesus–and not the savage Christian-murdering conception of “prophet Isa”.
More:
The conviction of Bibi was set aside by the Supreme Court on technical ground that there has been no proof beyond reasonable doubt that she uttered such blasphemous words contained in the charge sheet.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed still belies that anyone who says that Muhammed is not the Savior and who loves Jesus deserves to be murdered. *Ugh*.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage ,are you still not aware that Jesus of Nazareth is the same Esa in Arabic and Eso in Hebrew?for you to call isa a vicious you are cursing the person Jesus mentioned in your mithraist Bible. So, Muslims rever only Jesus mentioned in your mithraist Bible, we don’t recognise your satan god you call Holy Spirit and cursing him is not blasphemous because Allah has cursed him.
WPM says
There is no Jesus in the Koran ,there is no Christ the savior who was crucify died for all men,s sins, who came back from the dead who is the son of God. You believe anyone who believes in him that way is violating “blaspheme Sharia law” and should be put to death .Cursing the Holy Spirit and putting people to death who believe in the Holy Spirit is OK with you ,why do you not move to Pakistan and join the wild mob of baying animals for this woman,s blood .The Jews do not believe Jesus was the son of God, they do not curse him or put people to death who believe in him as the son of God, neither do any other major religions in the world except the Islamic mob .
p h says
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
“satan god you call Holy Spirit”
This vile statement will come back to haunt you
on judgement day, when you will have to appear before
JESUS himself, and give an account of it.
Then you will be fully aware of the dawning of an awful reality for your vile words and actions but the time for repentance will be past.
Keys says
Should not all muslims who have disobeyed Allah, and thereby having disrespected him, be put to death ?
Many are more guilty than the woman who called Jesus a bastard, and you say she merits being put to death ! Hunh !
Mirren10 says
I would have *loved* to ask this Hanif some cogent questions. But there is no comment facility. I wonder why not ? 🙂
gravenimage says
It is always instructive to see what stories newspapers don’t want people commenting on…
nicholas tesdorf says
Repeating the Truth is also the Truth, the Way and the Light.
TKF says
There is no such thing as Allah, there is no such thing as a prophet and there is no such thing as blasphemy….only really stupid, ignorant, superstitious people, of whom Muslims top the list. What a bunch of babies they are.
mortimer says
IMPURITY OF THE NAJIS KUFAAR
List of things that are DIRTY for a Muslim: Urine, Faeces, Semen, Dead body, Blood, Dog, Pig, Kafir [disbeliever], Alcoholic liquors, Sweat of an animal that eats najasat [unclean things].
Defintion: najis. Specifically, Koran 9:28 says that those practicing Shirk — i.e., al-Mushrikun — are “filthy” (najasun).
Among things that are najasun (plural of najis, translated variously as “impure” or “filthy”) are the following:
*dirt
*human urine and feces
*other liquids that come out of private parts (presumably including sperm)
*excrement from animals
*menstrual blood
*dog saliva
*dead animals
*donkey’s flesh
*the foul smell that accrues on a long hem of a woman’s abaya over time from contact with the dirt
*the urine from a breast-fed baby
And these are not merely “dirty” things for physical hygiene — they directly relate to a Muslim’s “purity” during prayer.
Among the list above, for example, we see “menstrual blood” — and that is why we see these Muslim teenage girls not only segregated from Muslim boys (as is customary in general) but also segregated from the other girls during prayer — because they happen to be in the process of menstruation. And these prayers religious in nature and offensive to Western liberal tolerance of women in general and particularly during menstruation were occurring in a Toronto school.
Ren says
Did Asia Bibi say Muhammad was a scum? If she did then she was absolutely right.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ren, your satan pagan god you call Holy Spirit is the scum of all evils. you will be swimming inside the most horrible bad smells he will be emitting in the hottest lake of hellfire. Get ready!!
R. Spanier (Catholic Canadian) says
What Asia Bibi said: “I’ve never blasphemed. I’m innocent. I’ve never committed a crime in my whole life. I want to tell the whole world that I respect the Prophet…. I’m not a Muslim, but I am a good Pakistani, a Catholic and a patriot. I love my country as I love my God… Now it’s been decided I’m to be hanged… Spread the word. I believe this is the only chance I have of not dying in this dungeon. I need you. Help me.” Asia Bibi, from the book: Blasphemy: A Memoir: Sentenced to death over a cup of water (2013)
John says
This is so stupid ! You are The NY Times , you can say anything you want !
WPM says
The NY “Sharia” Times does not want to offend Islam or Mohammad, but Trump , and Trump supports are the real evil according to the many articles written as facts but are only opinions based on hurt feelings. Even a mad man who in his writing on line before he kills Jews in their house of worship in Pittsburg who condemns Trump in his eyes as a “Jew lover” is connected that it is Trump fault in the NY Sharia Times for his mayhem. Saudi Arabia kills a “reporter’ {who is a Saudi citizen} who enters its embassy in Turkey Trumps fault. Some black kid gets shot by the police in the midwestern United States Trumps fault. A wave of refugees pop up in Central America march across Mexico with no one stopping them to try to crash our border Trumps fault ! It is cloudy and raining today in New York City a depressing fall day Trumps fault! It is kind of like Islam blaming all it failures to bring ” peace and happiness ” to it mad horde of suicide Jihadist driven followers on “the Jews”. The world was a real peaceful place before Trumps election according to the New York Sharia Times ,no shootings , no terrorist attacks, no planes being driven into buildings in New York City, no people being raped and put into sex slave status in Europe. No bombing of houses of worship by the followers of Mohammed all over the world ,it all started with Trumps election ,not 1400 years of Jihad nothing to do with Islam according to the New York Sharia Times..
Brother Charles says
A RENAMING CEREMONY OF THE NEW YORK TIMES ,IT WILL NOW BE CALLED , ” THE NEW YORK DHIMMI TIMES “, NOW AVAILABLE IN ARABIC ?
brane pilot says
The problem is not these primitive savages and their mindless, violent religion.
The problem is that the West now grovels before this religion as a ‘virtue signaling’ political gambit.
This is the age of ‘feelings’ in the West, and groveling before savages makes progressive Westerners feel good about their ‘progressive values’.
Strange that there is nothing ‘progressive’ about defending helpless people from religious mobs.
alex Reid says
It is NOT Blasphemy to repeat her words!! She was acquitted, so therefore her words are not blasphemous! Absolutely pathetic how the West’s Institutions kow – tow to this Desert dogma. totally pathetic.
Lydia Church says
IF the NYT would repeat what the muslim women said, THEN the NYT would be guilty of blasphemy, just like the muslim women were guilty of blasphemy.
If the NYT repeats what Asia Bibi said, then it would be guilty of repeating THE TRUTH (which includes questioning lies).
SamB says
So, the New York Times supports Asia Bibi’s demise according to Islamic Law and they won’t protest. This is an indictment on those rational processes that makes postmodern humans in the West less than enviable. Progression of our thought and analytical skills is the building blocks of this new ethics so long as it safeguards the principles of those who defend it. The New York Times and those publications who support post modern freedom of speech-called editing out-are still fuming about Christian excesses in the 15th and 16th century. I suspect their empirical evidence still encounter such folks today but to throw out baby with water is totally irrational. With all this backstabbing we wonder what CNN, NYP and others eventually want? Muslim domination… Christian elimination?