When they conquered India, Muslims were benevolent and tolerant, right? That’s what Rutgers Newark professor Audrey Truschke would have you believe.
“When Hindus and Muslims lived in harmony,” by Aijaz Zaka Syed, Saudi Gazette, August 19, 2017:
AT a time when the Muslims are being hunted like animals on the benign watch of the BJP, two brave new books revisit a time when they ruled the country. The Hindus and Muslims lived in harmony under Muslim rulers, including under the powerful Moguls, argues Audrey Truschke of Stanford University, an authority on South Asian culture and history.
In her fascinating book, Culture of Encounters: Sanskrit at the Mughal Court, Truschke suggests that the heyday of Muslim rule, from the 16th to 18th centuries, had been one of “tremendous cross-cultural respect and fertilization and not religious or cultural conflict.”…
The ‘Culture of Encounters’ was followed by another groundbreaking tome on perhaps the most controversial figure in Indian history. Aurangzeb: The Man and the Myth is another brave attempt to understand the life and times of the last great Mogul emperor who ruled for nearly half a century and whose reign covered the length and breadth of India including Afghanistan and parts of Mynamar.
“The Aurangzeb of popular memory bears only a faint resemblance to the historical emperor,” notes Truschke as she seeks to clear the cobwebs that have always clouded his image. She sifts fact from fiction and the man from the many myths that have grown around him over the centuries, thanks to biased telling of history as part of the British colonial project.
She dismisses the myth that Aurangzeb had been driven by religious zeal and his rule was defined by the oppression of Hindus….
In my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, I introduce you to the real Aurangzeb, beyond these ridiculous academic myths, in his own words and the words of eyewitnesses to his deeds. Aurangzeb in 1670 issued this decree: “Every idol-house built during the last 10 or 12 years, whether with brick or clay, should be demolished without delay. Also, do not allow the crushed Hindus and despicable infidels to repair their old temples.”
A Muslim historian, Saqa Mustad Khan, writing just after Aurangzeb died in 1707, reported that in January 1680, Aurangzeb “went to view lake Udaisagar, constructed by the Rana, and ordered all the three temples on its banks to be demolished.” The following day, “Hasan Ali Khan brought to the Emperor twenty camel-loads of tents and other things captured from the Rana’s palace and reported that one hundred and seventy-two other temples in the environs of Udaipur had been destroyed.” Later that year, “Abu Turab, who had been sent to demolish the temples of Amber, returned to Court…and reported that he had pulled down sixty-six temples.”
Bakhtawar Khan, a nobleman during Aurangzeb’s reign, was also pleased, noting that “Hindu writers have been entirely excluded from holding public offices, and all the worshipping places of the infidels and great temples of these infamous people have been thrown down and destroyed in a manner which excites astonishment at the successful completion of so difficult a task.”
You won’t learn all this at Rutgers, or most any other American university. They’re too busy teaching academic fictions such as those retailed here by Audrey Truschke, and warning their students about “Islamophobia.” But you can get the truth in The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS is the only comprehensive one-volume history of jihad in the English language, including not just the jihad in Europe but in India, Africa and elsewhere, drawing primarily on accounts of eyewitnesses and contemporary chroniclers. Arm yourself with the truth against the prevailing disinformation. Order here now.
Angemon says
I know that fiction requires suspension of disbelief, but there’s only so much suspension one can produce…
Wellington says
Seconded, Angemon.
Instructive how so many in our time want to sanitize Islam, even make it a victim, of most any wrongdoing, presently or through the ages. Invariably, I have found such sanitizing very much wrapped up with the denigration and non-appreciation of Western Civilization, the ONLY civilization to pioneer true freedom AND with the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings, neither of which attributes the Islamic world has ever manifested—even to this very day.
Well, when has a totalitarian ideology apologized for anything? The dearth of liberty, humility and a true dedication to the truth mitigates against this in the extreme by any totalitarian ideology such as Islam (or its “cousin,” as exists in present-day authoritarian Russia and China).
Glad to see you back, Angemon. Very glad, since your rapier intellect is, to say the least, quite helpful in combating what Islam intends for us all.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington.
I’m glad to see Angemon back posting, as well, and missed him when he was gone.
Andy says
Where it ALL WENT WRONG!
“Diversity” in the UK, Islam, PC Insanity, BETA MALE Piers Morgan, & TRUMP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FBa4W80N1s
Andy says
Common Sense Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AtOw-xyMo8
mgoldberg says
The do not apologize for anything. In fact, they turn it around with ‘turnspeak’ as Joan Peters noted years ago.
Reminicent of the early days oof the Soviet utopia’, when the NY Times writer Walter Duranty won his nobel prize for reporting on the marvelous experiment of soviet collectivization of farms.
The reality was that almost 4-5 millions of Russians died, perished due to that ideology and the breadbasket that it was was no more. So what did they do? Why they erased the names of the dead from the records, and that’s how they got rid of the evidence.
Duranty never got his Pulitzer rescinded nor would the Times do so. Duranty was a communist propagandist and like all the others, never apologized let alone understood the depth of what he excused. Nor did the Times.
And here we are- with some Lib professor bloviating about the generosity of muslim rule. So… the 60 or more millions murdered thru the last 800 yrs or so, just moved on along, and never existed- how very generous of her. But what disturbs me is that we don’t demand
retraction of such teachings by forcefully demonstrating the falsity and the results of those lies. Mind you, I’m not sure how to proceed, but the issue come down to not allowing lies to be told without verbal repercussions, such that the rest of the populace is not lulled into sleep .
WPM says
The new York Times have not change their true mission statement still pulling for the overthrow of Western Civilization except using the red green alliance to do it!
Bhushan says
What atrocities has Western civilization apologized for? The colonization and plunder of Latin America, Africa and Asia? Orchestrated disasters such as the Bengal famine in India?
Roland says
The West has amply, if not completely, documented it’s own crimes and tried to make some amends. No evidence of that from Islam.
j_not_a says
Test
Lilith Wept says
It’s Islamic propaganda, to make sure moslems are constantly portrayed as “poor persecuted” people , percuted for their religious beliefs. They know America was founded by people fleeing religious persecution. And we have been a place of refuge for millions of people fleeing religious persecution since, as well as all kinds of persecution…This is embedded deep in the America psyche. So Moslem and The Liberals, and globalists and moslem apologists really push this concept of moslems ( and Islam) as persecuted, “hunted like animals” So to of trigger that American desire to protect the underdog, to stand up for those than can’t stand up for themselves and to provide a safe haven for them.
They have to keep this up and not allow too much time to pass without yet another case of discrimination, persecution or Hate Crima against Moslems and Islam. They need to keep pushing that button. They have to keep that in the news!
But the problem for Islam is that so many people are seeing through this , seeing it for what it is, a tactic to allow moslems and Islam to gain the protection and trust of Americans so that then, Islam can safely spread, protected by the First Amendment. And the protected by that American desire to protect those that need protecting.
People are seeing the evidence playing out around the world, the behavior of moslems and comparing that with what Moslems claim. This evidence of Moslem persecution is everywhere, in this modern age of instant communication, cell phones and social media, it can’t be hidden…..
Some are looking into those alleged instances of discrimination and persecution future …to find that it’s moslems that are the perpetrators, or that there’s is no evidence to back up a moslems claim of some kind of discrimination or active persecution. People are seeing that these cases while initially sounding sensational, just don’t pan out , and there is little or no evidence to support these claims.
And looking at statistic in America, it’s Jews that have the highest instances of persecution , hate crimes and discrimination….not Moslems as they claim.
I am seeing hopeful signs….that maybe the West, or some of it at least, is waking up to the threat Islam poses. And that the only way to stop islam is to not allow any moslems into your country or stop protecting Islam as a recognized religion. It’s my hope that western countries will recognize that Islam is a political ideology with religious aspects, and that its basic core doctrine commands are not on,y not compatible wirh Western laws, freedoms and rights but that the basic commands of Islam pose a serious real threat to the security and safety of western countries and their citizens. That Islam will never assimilate . And that to eliminate that threat we have to recognize that Islam is not just a religion , like Judaism or Christianity, or any other major world religion, it can not coexist peacefully and equally with any other faith ( and never has) that as long as we allow Islam the same protection as all other religions, Islam will continue to do everything it can to become dominate , to obliterate all other faiths, all our enlightened Western culture, thought ,individual freedoms and our God given Rights. And that the only way to stop this Islamic juggernaut is to declare that Islam is not a recognized religion under the law., it has no legal protection , support or recourse. In the past we stopped the Islamic invasion of Europe with an army , with Spears and swords…Now we must protect Europe again from an Islamic invasion but this time we must use the law, with words and the courts.
Tony says
Moslems – Work make you free! Just remember where that comes from.
BC says
One can only wonder at how these charlatans get jobs as professors and if anybody supervisers their teaching. I expect if anybody questioned her ideas he/she would be immediately branded and islamphobe
esther says
BC—-there is a larger MUSLIM population in New Jersey. I am old—-
and experienced, in my youth—-lots of interaction with both groups in
New Jersey. —Muslims are VERY SURE of the MUSLIM VERSION of
history——Hindus act shy and Gandhiji like. I developed a sense that
MAHATMA really screwed the hindu mind in his desperate attempt to
placate muslims
J D S says
Profs should be smart not dumb but it appears that this Rutgers Prof
has not studied up on her history and it also appears that when it comes to Islam there are too many educators that fall into this category. Is all of this just part of their plan to infiltrate Islam into our daily society using fiction, or are they really dumb?
mortimer says
Islamic conquest of India. Bloodiest in the history of World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMY2YV9WucY
Gurjant Singh says
Being of Jewish background Audrey Truschke seems to suffer from Stockholm syndrome. What she writes about Aurangzeb is not only offensive to Hindus but it completely falsifies Sikh history.
Aurangzeb got the 9th Guru of Sikhs executed. He is the biggest villain for Sikhs. I don’t know where she is getting her history from and why she is so interested in spinning it.
Indian left supports this kind of vacuous scholarship to rile majority Hindus of India.
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam Gurjant,
I don’t know about the jews (well not that much except that our prophet SAW was poisoned by the jewess Safiyah after the conquest of Khaibar. Points to note are that 1) he very gently and kindly took Safiyah as a wife, which is very honourable position… and 2) ordered the torture and beheading of her husband Kinana at Khaibar. Now obviously Kinana kept a very tight leash on her … giving her no freedom at all… and in all likelihood she was probably glad to see the back of him.
Also what could be more honourable than to receive seed from the prophet.. unfortunately she was wound up by other women who were jealous to not also receive seed and equally provided the poison too. You know that after he ate the meat …he survived for 3 days whilst others died within an hour or so … this was the staying power of our prophet SAW.
Only then did was the edict given to clear people who poison of the ME… before that it was all good.
I also read some Sikh history … turns out the hindoos where no real friend of the Sikhs either. They only wanted protection but offered nothing much in return, wasn’t the minister in Akbar’s court a hindoo, did the not the hindoo hill rajas attack the Sikhs… and then after they were defeated… like the cowards that they are asked help from the muslims to help.
Never forget the hindoo is the enemy within…
More Later …
Rezali
WPM says
Sure killing all adult males in the village and raping the females selling the children into slavery was an act of tolerance at Khaibar invasion .Killing unarmed farmers who surrendered caught going unarmed at dawn to work their fields was an act of mercy in your Islamic eyes. With nothing in fact in history about the relationship of “Kinana ” to his wife “Safiyan” you make up your own facts ,but that is what Islam is about making things up to advance their cause their religion ,an excuse for their violent behavior. The Moslems were killing, raping, destroying ,all who would not bow down to Islam before Mohammed,s death, pagans , Jews and Christians alike .
gravenimage says
The appalling Rezali Mehil wrote:
Salaam Gurjant,
I don’t know about the jews (well not that much except that our prophet SAW was poisoned by the jewess Safiyah after the conquest of Khaibar. Points to note are that 1) he very gently and kindly took Safiyah as a wife, which is very honourable position… and 2) ordered the torture and beheading of her husband Kinana at Khaibar. Now obviously Kinana kept a very tight leash on her … giving her no freedom at all… and in all likelihood she was probably glad to see the back of him.
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There is, of course, absolutely no indication that Kinana “kept a tight leash” on his wife–and the claim that she probably wanted to see her husband–and all of her male relatives–slaughtered is grotesque.
And claiming that the “Prophet” Muhammed raping Safiyah the very night he murdered all of her loved ones as putting her in a “very honourable position” is just sick.
Moreover, many people assume that her given name was Safiyah–but this is not the case. As is made clear in Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2988: ‘A’isha said: Safiyyah was called after the word safi (a special portion of the Prophet).
In other words, her name means “booty” or “plunder”. Pretending that she was honored is ludicrous.
There is a later Muslim fable saying that she actually had had a dream about the moon and that this meant that she wanted Muslims to rape her and murder her husband and family.
But this actually conflicts with the Hadith, which say that MUhammed’s companions had kept watch outside the tent all night with drawn swords because they did not trust Safiyah because Muhammad had just slain her husband the previous day. Why would this be the case if she was thrilled to have the “Prophet” rape her?
Some claim that Muhammed saved her from becoming a slave–without, of course, ever mentioning that he was the one who enslaved her to begin with.
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Also what could be more honourable than to receive seed from the prophet..
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Ewwwwww! Of course–who wouldn’t want to be raped by murderous Muslims?
But then, Rezali Mehil has approvingly written of her Muslim uncle kidnapping and raping her Hindu aunt in Pakistan, Muslims love rape.
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unfortunately she was wound up by other women who were jealous to not also receive seed and equally provided the poison too. You know that after he ate the meat …he survived for 3 days whilst others died within an hour or so … this was the staying power of our prophet SAW.
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Well, this is really bizarre. Firstly, Muhammed was not poisoned by Safiyah, he was supposed to have been poisoned by Zeynab bint Al-Harit–another one of the victims at Khaybar.
She poisoned him for having murdered her father, her uncle, and her husband.
Then, he didn’t survive for three days, but for four years. He is said to have been in pain for the rest of his life, though.
But there are no Islamic texts that claim that Safiya took part in this, despite her terrible suffering. Safiya actualy outlived Muhammed. Is Rezali Mehil just making this crap up on her own now?
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Only then did was the edict given to clear people who poison of the ME… before that it was all good.
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What is Rezali Mehil babbling about now?
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I also read some Sikh history … turns out the hindoos where no real friend of the Sikhs either. They only wanted protection but offered nothing much in return, wasn’t the minister in Akbar’s court a hindoo, did the not the hindoo hill rajas attack the Sikhs… and then after they were defeated… like the cowards that they are asked help from the muslims to help.
Never forget the hindoo is the enemy within…
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As always, Muslims desperately hope to get the victims of Muslims to turn on each other. Nice try, Mohammedan…
esther says
Gurjant—–Audrey needs a discussion with my hubby—–he was born a dhimmi in
shariah shit hole——a really classical dump—very shariah adherent. His community
of jews lived in that land for more than 1000 years before islam got there—–ALL GONE
NOW. Why is your community so quiet about the problems of Sikhs in the Pakistan ruled
part of Punjab? Time to speak up——get a clue from NIKKI
gravenimage says
Esther, I’m glad your husband escaped.
ash says
i think this lady professor is just a ignorant or getting paid by Islamic groups to spread false propaganda,i insist re do her research and come up with true historical facts i assure she will discover Muslims were cruel towards non Muslims back then same as now..
gravenimage says
The History of Jihad explodes prof’s claim that Hindus lived in peace under Muslim rulers in India
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One of the biggest lies of all. Hindus have suffered more under Muslim conquest than any other people–and that is saying a great deal. Audrey Truschke is either an ignorant fool or something much., much worse.
Here’s a good review of her whitewash of Mughal king Aurangzeb:
“Aurangzeb was a bigot not just by our standards but also by those of his predecessors and peers”
Audrey Truschke’s biography of the king fails to demolish the conventional view of the Mughal emperor.
https://scroll.in/article/856178/aurangzeb-was-a-bigot-not-just-by-our-standards-but-by-those-of-his-predecessors-and-peers
Roland Tours says
i’m surprised that they can get away with this at Rutgers Newark. There is a large Indian population, mostly Hindu, in New Jersey. Don’t they complain?
WPM says
There is a large and growing Moslem population to the north of that area in New Jersey. Just as the Jews of Brooklyn put up with the growing population of Moslems there causing unrest using political Jihad ,no one wants to offend the Moslems or non-Moslem PC correct useful idiots. In India they put up with PC correct Hindus running the show for years in England ,France ,Germany you have PC secular rulers. It is not an excusive Hindi thing, it seems to cross all societies , Christian, Jewish Hindi ,and people who are secular atheist ,the OWG people want us to be culled bring down our numbers ,Islam is the instrument they will use to get the results they want. They want to crush all ethical religious practices except Islam ,they want Sharia law to replace secular laws ,they want all non-Moslems dead or enslaved .The OWG want a much smaller world population ,with less diversity of belief ,culture ,and the government control in the hands of a few people. It is easier to govern a smaller less cultural enriched people who are afraid ,less knowledge , free speech not permitted ,free though punished , a serf or slave mentality enforce .The OWG people want to use Islam as an instrument that would bring this about, the trouble is that they can not control or tame this monster (Islam) and cage it after it gets into power.
livingengine says
“Professor Goldman’s email clearly repudiated Truschke’s tweet, which had claimed that his translation of Valmiki’s Ramayana contained abusive words used by Sitaji against Lord Ram. It’s not that such claims needed any more refutation than seeing how false they were when verified with Valmiki’s original version. What Professor Goldman’s email, however, did quite clearly is that it exposed Truschke’s act of passing the buck of a blatantly flawed translation of a specific shloka to another scholar.
In many ways, what Truschke did on social media was actually an academic equivalent of spreading fake news (attributing words to Valmiki and Professor Goldman that they never wrote). ”
“The objections raised on Truschke’s tweet were never about her “interpretation” — there can be many interpretations and indeed many of them exist. . . Among other things, the scope for multiple ways to tell Ramayana has been provided by the interplay of anthropomorphism and divinity in the epic.
Truschke’s dishonesty pertains to mixing subjective interpretation with “loose translation” of the great poet’s work. ”
“With a series of obfuscations, Truschke evaded some key questions: how can interpretation be an excuse for what she had claimed in her tweet to be a “loose translation”? What type of translation allows a scholar to add colloquial words to the original text — words that neither existed in Valmiki’s Ramayana or in Goldman’s translation? She neither had any answer to these questions nor did she accept the blunder. Instead she accused the “Hindu Right” of stifling “interpretation””
“In her work Aurangzeb – The Man and the Myth (Penguin Random House, 2017), she had very thin historical material to support her revisionist attempt at the horrors of Aurangzeb’s rule. As Girish Shahane has pointed out, even Truschke’s argument of not judging the Mughal king by modern standards doesn’t stand historical scrutiny (he was a bigot for his times too).
Ironically, Truschke seems quite keen on applying standards of modern-day feminism to mythological characters and religious texts in Hinduism. Be that as it may, it is her prerogative to do so and she can very well interpret Ramayana as she likes. What, however, isn’t acceptable is that such ideas distort the “translations” she cites and sometimes robs it of the context too.”
– The Unscholarly Dishonesty of Audrey Truschke
https://www.newslaundry.com/2018/04/30/the-unscholarly-dishonesty-of-audrey-truschke
Krishna says
Yeah the Muslim invadersb lived peaceful among Hindus by counting dead Hindu heads
ash says
This is very true…..Yeah the Muslim invaders lived peaceful among Hindus by counting dead Hindu heads every day…….
Keys says
From the informative bacon of truth, the “Saudi Gazette”: “…two brave new books revisit a time when they (Muslims) ruled the country… .” What a coincidence that the beheaditors would notice and bring to light such obscure, unpopular writings
Looks like some “professors” have been comissioned and paid by some Saudis to write such things – all planned jihad of the pen. Flush them down the “Saudi Toilet” and wipe your left hand of the whole thing.
Laura says
‘bacon of truth’ indeed.
JW_Reader says
Audrey Truschke’s book on Aurangzeb has a rating of 2.8 on Amazon. As of Nov 2018, 50% readers gave it 1 star. If I were Audrey, I would give up. “Scholars” like Audrey are recruited more for their political views rather than their intellectual abilities. Failure to see the evil in one of the most monstrous ruler in world history is really despicable.
gravenimage says
+1
Edmund Carey says
You wonder now and then, do you not, how these people get to be “professors” in the fist place? I’m beginning to think that the only test they have to pass is one in political correctness. Knowledge doesn’t seem to have much to do with it.
duh swami says
‘I love those aggressive verses cuz they are mine, mine, mine, and not thine, thine, thine…So you die and I get your stuff…Hows that for respect and tolerance?
Ren says
Aijaz Zaka Syed is another muslim liar. I’m not surprised as taqiyah (deception) is part of islam.
sidney penny says
“You won’t learn all this at Rutgers, or most any other American university. They’re too busy teaching academic fictions such as those retailed here by Audrey Truschke, and warning their students about “Islamophobia.” ”
Rutgers Newark professor Audrey Truschke probably will not reply to any of the matters that Robert Spencer raised
trueprogressive says
What you see in Saudi Arabia, Iran and other parts of the world run along avowedly “Islamic” lines is what you get, always have got and always will get when the precepts of Islam are put into full practice. There is a massive propaganda campaign underway to convince the western public otherwise, which includes presenting a rose-tinted view of life for subject non-Muslims in historical situations of Islamic domination like Mughal India, the Ottoman Empire and Spain under Arab-Berber Muslim colonialist occupation in the long centuries following its perfidious seizure by Muslim invaders from North Africa. The horrendous atrocities committed by Muslim invaders during their invasions of these countries are barely, if at all, touched upon – unlike atrocities committed by European Christian armies during the Crusades which are dwelt upon in all their gruesome detail and for which Muslims everywhere (including lands which were not even Islamic at the time) are deemed entitled to bear an eternal grudge (and in the minds of some to exact an eternal “revenge”).
Another arm of this propaganda campaign is public exhibitions of Islamic art, architecture and cultural and scientific accomplishments in the lands historically conquered by the Muslim Arabs in order to counter any negative perceptions of Islam in the western non-Muslim public mind that results from jihad terrorist attacks and whatever of the awful reality of the lives of non-Muslims in present-day Muslim majority situations like Pakistan and Egypt that manages to slip through the information filter of the BBC and other western media organisations.
And, of course, Muslim-ruled India, Spain etc were “multicultural” and therefore by definition wonderful in the minds modern western leftists and other “progressives” in academia, the media and elsewhere who see in “Al-Andalus” an early realisation of their own “multicultural” dreams rather than the Saudi-style sharia hell-hole it actually was and which will be the real-world outcome for their own countries if they persist in their mindless infatuation with open borders and uncontrolled immigration, and continue to rabidly denounce as fascists and “Islamophobes” anybody who takes issue with their deranged agenda.
Brian hoff says
The reason robert spencer attack Dalia Mogahed os that she is traveling around america giveing than talk on Faith Courage and Freedom which upset people like robert who believe that muslim have no legal right in america as they arenot christian.
Bill Quest says
Brian go cover your houris ……
gravenimage says
This story is about the dishonest Audrey Truschke, not Dalia Mogahed.
Is “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–fine with the oppression and murder of Hindus? Certainly, he says nothing critical about it.
And Robert Spencer, of course, has *never* said that non-Christians have no right in America–this is completely untrue.
What “DefenderofIslam” is bothered by is that Muslims don’t have the right to wage violent Jihad in the United States, which he considers a core part of his vicious faith.
In fact, Jihad Watch has not covered Mogahed’s ludicrously titled talk,”Faith, Courage, and Freedom” at all. It is coming up December second at the Islamic Center of El Paso, which I believe is used by a base by “Brian hoff”.
This is sponsored by the Muslim Legal Fund of America, which is mostly about defending Jihadists and initiating “Lawfare” stealth Jihad.
They have been involved in cases defending Sami Al-Arian, who was convicted of funding Jihad terror; defending Enaam Arnaou, who was convicted of funding Jihad terror, including his working as a fundraiser for Osama bin Laden; and defending The Holy Land Foundation, convicted of funding Hamas. The trial against the Holy Land Foundation was the largest terror-funding trial in U.S. history.
*This* is what “Brian hoff’ characterizes as “courage and freedom”. *Ugh*.
f c king says
She is a liar. Muslims killed any millions of Indian infidels. The tore down temples, and used broken idols as sidewalks to their mosques.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
what does Mr spencer mean by “contemporary chronicles “?Mr spencer is not learned on scientific historical investigations, how could his work based on Legends and hearsays documented as chronicles by biased Hindu barbarians be superior to that of the experts like this erudite scholar on history? As such his book “history of jîhad Muhammad to Isis “remains a fiction no matter how he advertises it
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed, like all pious Muslims, does not believe that the victims of Islam have any right to so much as complain about being persecuted by Muslims.
But–too bad for Ibrahim itace muhammed–many of these sources are actually Muslim ones–Muslims love to brag about oppressing and brutalizing the Infidels.
As for Audrey Truschke, she *herself* confirms that many of Mughal ruler Aurangzeb’s policies were particularly harsh to the Hindus. How does Ibrahim itace muhammed account for this?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
what mr spencer meant by “contemporary chronicles “?He means his fictitious book based on Legends and hearsays documented as chronicles by biased Hindu barbarians is superior to the works of experts who relied and cogent and irrefutable historical evidence supported by archeological evidence ?
WPM says
What evidence or archeological evidence have you brought to this site to counter any facts here ,sticking your finger in your ear pulling it out and declaring your ear wax gold does not make it so.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Check the sources relied upon by the learned professor, they are all supported by archeological evidence,while the sources relied upon by Mr spencer are based on Legends and hearsays documented as chronicles, non is supported by archeological evidence.
gravenimage says
Is Ibrahim itace muhammed so ignorant that he believes that the history of Aurangzeb–which is only three hundred years old–relies on archaeology? What a moron.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
wpm, check the sources relied upon by the learned professor, they are all supported by archeological evidence, while the sources relied upon by Mr spencer are based on Legends and speculative stories, not supported by archeological evidence.Note: In scientific historical investigation 3 sources namely Legends or oral accounts, Historical documents and archeological evidence, have to concur.
Keys says
Itace, you imitate your founder, Allah, proud and arrogant as “the greatest of deceivers”.
How can anyone believe anything you post !
WPM says
Still name the sources Ibrahim itace Mohammads ballbag sources to discard or disprove what Robert Spencer puts on this website
What archeological digs have you named
What facts or history have you brought to the table of truth on this website
The sun setting in a muddy pool at the end of the day sinking to the bottom
The earth is the center of the universe
Wiping your ass with rocks
Running around a Pagan Temple that looks like a woman,s private parts and throwing stones at it
Worshipping a religion that is part Christianity
Part Jewism
A large part Pagan
That is a mission statement to hate all three as a ;large part of its displace abortion of the word of God or Gods or Mohammed worshipping ?
WPM says
Robert Spencer is calling her on her facts ,he is can do that. If some one wrote a book ,started an American tour promoting that book that Hitler did not kill millions of Jews in Nazi Germany and places the Nazis invaded that person would be called out for that also. You are entitled to your feeling you own that ,you are not entitled to your own private facts with no basic roots in reality or history you can not make up your own “facts” to appease some groups or peoples. If some one wrote a book saying Christ was a war lord who commanded his followers to kill unbelievers had an American tour promoting that book they would be called out on making up their own private facts. Faith Courage and Freedom do not entitle or encourage making up false history, false facts ,to appease or not offend other people.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
keys, you are imitating your satan god you call Holy Spirit who is the father lies in telling lies. Employ my service to use one Chinese style to kick your one-eyed Satan god on top of his head to get him running away from you so that you can be cured from lying.
WPM says
Kicking the air proves not points, bringing facts to the table brings points .Boasting ,trash talking , is cheap and easy ,I would not employ your service to scrap gum off the sidewalk or pick trash up from the side of a highway without screwing it up .Stop sticking your finger in your ear and declaring your ear wax goal and bring some facts to the website .
gravenimage says
*This* is what Ibrahim itace muhammed thinks constitutes facts.
Not that he cannot cite anything that WPM said that is not factual, and is not even able to get his name right.
Dr. Strangelove says
As I recall, Arthur Wellesley, later the Duke of Wellington, drove the islamosavages out of India and the people were grateful.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
TRUTH is dead.
George W Bush famously proclaimed that “Islam is peace,”
not because it’s true, but because truth hurts.
Keeping the peace and preventing feelings of shame and embarrassment through historically accurate teachings may insight retaliatory violence (Jihad).
gravenimage says
Truth is very much alive here are Jihad Watch.
Sunil Nagar says
The authors like Audrey Tawdry won’t utter a word about atrocities of ISIS against Yazidis but utter garbage about Mughals about which she has no clue. The fact is Mughals were illiterate and opium addicts right from babur down to Shah Jehan and incapable of any creative work. They got power only through typical al-taqiya and some luck. They forcibly took control of Rajput buildings like taj mahal, red fort, buland darwaza etc. and gave their own name. Aurangzeb killed Shivaji’s son Sambhaji in most brutal way. Mughal rule was unmitigated disaster but Saudi funded Audrey won’t mention it.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
keys, you imitate your satan god you call Holy Spirit- who is the father lies and evils- in lying. Employ my service to use one Chinese style to kick your interested Satan god on top of his head to get him running away from you so that you can be cured from lying.
gravenimage says
More spam…
infidel says
Just check how much Saudi petro dollars are backing this mad lady.. and U will get Ur answer..
Keys says
Yes, jihad of the pen most likely commissioned and paid for (probably in cash) by the Saudis; and written by a Dhimmi professor to seem objective, so as to make the religion of lies and death seem like the religion of peace.
All part of the multi-pronged, devilish plot to make the entire world Mohammadan extinguishing life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness from mankind.
mortimer says
3 million killed in 1971 Genocide by Pak Army in Bangladesh Bengal East Pakistan
“…… we were told to kill the Hindus and Kafirs (non-believer in God). One day in June, we cordoned a village and were ordered to kill the Kafirs in that area. We found all the village women reciting from the Holy Quran, and the men holding special congregational prayers seeking God’s mercy. But they were unlucky. Our commanding officer ordered us not to waste any time.”
-Confession of a Pakistani Soldier
________________________________________ During the Bangladesh Liberation War, it is estimated that between 400,000 and 600,000 women and girls were sexually assaulted by the Pakistan armed forces and the Al-Badr (“the moon”) and the Al-Shams (“the sun”) militias that supported them.________________________________________
1971 FATWA TO RAPE BENGALI WOMEN = 400,000 RAPED BY PAK ARMY
“During the war, a fatwa in Pakistan declared that the Bengali ‘freedom fighters’ were Hindus and that their women could be taken as the ‘booty of war’.[ Herbert L. Bodman, Nayereh Esfahlani Tohidi 1998, p. 208.] Imams and Muslim religious leaders publicly declared that the Bengali women were ‘gonimoter maal’ (war booty) and thus they openly supported the rape of Bengali women by the Pakistani Army. (“BANGLADESH GENOCIDE 1971 – RAPE VICTIMS Interview”. YouTube. 15 December 2009. Retrieved 2 June 2013.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iGn_ziM9EA – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDYVejJ7OGg
________________________________________REPORT OF AMERICAN CONSUL
On May 14th, (American) Consul Archer Blood sent a telegram to Washington entitled “The Hindu Slaughter.” He wrote that “the army’s standard pattern in its operations is to have soldiers enter villages, question the citizens as to where the Hindus live, and execute the males.”
On May 19th he informed Washington that “a young Western Pakistani officer (a fighter pilot by profession) admitted that the army is conducting a systematic killing of the Hindus.” The officer justified the actions, saying, “the Hindus are enemies and we must cleanse East Pakistan,” and that, “the killing is conducted under the auspices of jihad, a holy war.” Blood added that “in some instances Pakistani soldiers boasted that they came to East Pakistan to kill Hindus.”
________________________________________Rape in East Pakistan – Confession:
West Pakistanis thought they were a ‘pure’ breed (or pure Muslims) that’s why the people from West Pakistan did a lot of discrimination in East Pakistan.
They (Bengalis) weren’t given high positions anywhere; they were treated like second grade citizens in their own land.
When protests started which were actually happening from late 60s. Pakistan army made harems for mass rapes so that the girls give birth to ‘pure’ offspring.
Whether a 7-year-old girl or an 80-year-old, no one was spared. Some young girls were kept tied to trees and they raped them many times a day.
The women, who were married, were disowned by their families and they did mass suicide. I could add the pictures but that would be chilling.
When the Red Cross reached to aid after India won 1971 war, they did abortion of many girls and they were given respect in society as brave ladies.
What Bangladesh has seen is nerve wrenching. Rape of 250,000 women.
sidney penny says
Negationism in India: Concealing the Record of Islam
by Koenraad Elst
If you read this book by Koenraad Elst you will understand that this is exactly what Rutgers Newark professor Audrey Truschke is doing. Concealing the record of Islam in India.
This record of Islam in India is often recorded by India’s own historians, that is Muslim historians.
See Elliot and Dawson
The History of India, as Told by its Own Historians- 8 Volume Set: Volume 3
The Muhammadan Period by Henry Miers Elliot and John Dowson
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/8185990956/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0
Negationism in India: Concealing the Record of Islam
by Koenraad Elst
Andre says
This professor is referred to as an authority on East Asia. Has anyone looked at her work; examined her primary sources, her argument methodology? She will probably be quoted extensively given her position and university. The extremist comments about the NY Times et al..are not valid or helpful if one is trying to convince the undecided or uninformed. There are a number of comments here that provide real contributions to the discussion ie. additional information or references for further reading.
sidney penny says
I do think that the professor Audrey Truschke would have read this book or replied to its content and this book debunks her view.
https://www.amazon.in/Hindu-Temples-Happened-Islamic-Evidence/dp/8185990948
Hindu Temples – What Happened to Them is a two-volume book by Sita Ram Goel, Arun Shourie, Harsh Narain, Jay Dubashi and Ram Swarup.
The book restricts itself mainly to the study of Hindu temples destroyed and desecrated and converted into mosques and khanqahs without overlooking Muslim’s ideology of iconoclasm; here and there, it also mentions other theological props and concomitants of the iconoclastic ideology.
gravenimage says
The weird thing is that Audrey Truschke does affirm that Muslims destroyed Hindu temples–but then downplays its importance.