If Ali Erbaş really wants to end “Islamophobia,” here is how he and his fellow Muslims could accomplish it. They could call upon Muslim individuals and groups to:
1. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
2. Renounce definitively, sincerely, honestly, and in deeds, not just in comforting words, not just “terrorism,” but any intention to replace Western constitutions (or the constitutions of any non-Muslim state) with Sharia even by peaceful means. In line with this, clarify what is meant by their condemnations of the killing of innocent people by stating unequivocally that non-Muslim civilians, including Israelis, are innocent people, teaching accordingly in mosques and Islamic schools, and behaving in accord with these new teachings.
3. Teach, again sincerely and honestly, in transparent and verifiable ways in mosques and Islamic schools, the imperative of Muslims coexisting peacefully as equals with non-Muslims on an indefinite basis, and act accordingly.
4. Begin comprehensive international programs in mosques all over the world to teach sincerely, and again transparently, against the ideas of violent jihad and Islamic supremacism.
5. Actively and honestly work with Western law enforcement officials to identify and apprehend jihadists within Western Muslim communities.
If Muslims did those five things, voila! “Islamophobia” would vanish! But it ain’t gonna happen.
Why are people suspicious of Islam? In my book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, I show that jihad groups are by no means an aberration in the history of Islam. On the contrary, for 1,400 years there have been Muslim who waged aggressive war against unbelievers, oppressed non-Muslim communities, and made sex slaves of non-Muslim women. From the Almoravids and Almohads in “tolerant, pluralistic” Muslim Spain to the Muslim conquerors of India, today’s jihadis have abundant precedents in Islam. But few people know this history, and even fewer realize its implications. That’s why I wrote The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS — to try to prevent the same mistakes borne of ignorance being made yet again in our own age. Have you read it yet? You can still get it here.
“‘Efforts should be intensified to combat Islamophobia,'” Anadolu Agency, November 10, 2018:
Head of Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate Ali Erbaş on Friday called for intensified efforts to combat increasing Islamophobia in Europe….
“It seems that one of the most important areas of joint cooperation now in the European arena is doing efforts to eliminate the Islamophobia spread either by the enemies or by those from us who do not know the purpose of this religion,” Erbas said.
Jayell says
The opinions of European citizens is none of Turkey’s business – in fact it’s none of the European governments’ business either, or doesn’t the Turkish government realise that? So this is a non-starter for that reason alone. However, since these people are talking about something that doesn’t exist any way, the whole thing is academic. In any case, the way things are going, what sort of co-operation should we we be having with Turkey?
JW_Reader says
No worries. More people know of Islam, more the so called “Islmaophobia” will propagate. And then there are Al-Qaida, ISIS, Boko Haram, etc doing the PR work for islam to the rest of the world. So, no matter, what the politically correct leaders tell us, every one will come to know Islam will bring:-
1) Homophobia,
2) Misogyny
3) Hatred for everything Un-Islamic
4) Hatred for almost everything decent
5) Middle age savagery
6) Retrogression to the medieval era
and the list goes on….
mortimer says
Yes, JWR, here is the list of Worst things about Islam: 1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims. 35. Holy books of Islam contain more calls for violence than all other foundational religious texts.
J D S says
It is taking longer than I originally thought to send Islam to oblivion.
I thought that ISIS,AL QAIDA, BOKO HARAM, HAMAS etc would have shown the world just what Islam actually is and Islam would just fade into obscurity..but WRONG.
WHY??? Mostly because of world leaders stupidity and those in Islam who have let fear keep them from speaking out against what these groups are doing to Islam…..but but but…
Islam has used FEAR from its inception to advance it’s teachings..First, FEAR when muhammad found that throngs were not flocking to his newfound religion. So he used the other source that has held Islam in place and that source is FORCE.
So FORCE AND FEAR are the mainstays of Islam and that is two other reasons Islam has not fell apart since the terrorist arm of islam has been brought more into the limelight.
Eventually I think the world will wake up to just what Islam’s agenda actually is. There may be much blood in the streets though, before this happens. God save us from ourselves.
Lauren Hermann says
J D S, I couldn’t agree with you more. But as I have said several times before, if 9/11 didn’t wake up the Americans, nothing will.
This cancer has metastasized to every continent in the world except Antarctica. And islam is NOT a religion; it is a theocratic political system. Would we be tolerant of Nazi-ism had the Nazis called it a religion? I think not. Yes, there will most likely be blood in the streets, but I am sure the the US will not give up without a vicious fight to preserve our way of life.
SweetOlBob says
A “phobia” is a fear. The term “Islamophobia” alludes to being afraid of islam.
Knowing about islam, and its stupid practices, and its uncivilized, murderous commands, and its inhuman treatment of women, and its penis driven laws, IS NOT FEAR !
It is only the self protective, basic inclination to rid the world of the filthy cult !
Hating the inbred, violent action of muslims whose brain has snapped is NOT FEAR !
I am not “afraid” of the terroristic actions of inbred muslims who follow the commands of their dirty book. If it happens to me, so be it !
But I can guarantee that I’ll give my very best effort to return the favor ……. IN SPADES !
jule says
Forgot one extremely important change for Muslims: To stop hateful, bigotry to Jews. To Recognize Israel as a State and Judaism as a legitimate Religion of Abraham with all their historical sites returned. Strike from the Qur’an all the warlord BS of Jews being apes and pigs, cursed by Allah, Enemies of Allah & Muslims or being in any way inferior to Muslims. To Negotiate with Israel and to have everlasting peace with Israel. Otherwise…….all people will continue to find great fault with Islam/Qur’an/Muslims. Is that plain enough?
Martin says
Logic 101:
If a phobia is an irrational fear of something, and if fear of Islamic terrorism is rational, then Islamophobia is illogical because it is a rational fear.
mortimer says
FALLACIES 101: “ISLAMOPHOBIA” is a Straw Man Fallacy …
“Islamophobia” is the Strawman Fallacy, a distraction strategy, a table-turning propaganda term, a Frankenword, a Cheap Shot or Conflation or Righteousness Fallacy or a ‘Definist Fallacy’ or a Question-begging strategy to distract people from discussing JIHAD terrorism, and to preclude debate about Islamic terrorism.
“ISLAMOPHOBIA” is a propaganda term whose purpose is to disarm non-Muslims ideologically. ISLAMOPHOBIA is a verbal trick designed to make people feel it is immoral to discuss JIHADIC TERRORISM, to brush off their valid concerns and render non-Muslims ideologically defenceless against jihadic aggression. (All jihad is political aggression.)
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mortimer, the solution for genuine cooperation between muslim world and mithraist christian west is to employ my service to use one Chinese style to have a free kick on top of Satan’s (Holy Spirit) head to get him running away from mithraist christian west for them to stop lying against Islam and Muslims that causes misunderstanding. But mithraist christians feel that without such lies, mithraist christianity will vanish and Islam triumps.
gravenimage says
In other words, the only genuine “cooperation” between Muslims and Christians is for Muslims to violently wipe out Christians.
This is how pious Muslims like Ibrahim itace muhammed see things…
No Fear says
“Nazi leader urges Europe to eliminate Naziphobia”. Nazi leaders feel that anyone who refuses to submit should die, and if you are phobic about that then it is YOUR fault.
alex smythe says
Ibe: have you read Robert Spencer’s “The History of Jihad”? If so, can you logically refute anything that he (and his sources) state in it? I myself have recently purchased it, and am in the process of reading it right now. If you don’t want to shell out money for it, then try reading it at a library or borrowing a copy of it, if possible.
re: martial arts. It’s important for Western women and girls to learn Kung Fu, and also other martial arts (Karate, Krav Maga, or whatever) to help protect themselves not only from native non-Muslim rapists, but also against more newly-arrived Muslim rapefugees and groomers. In India, many women are currently taking martial arts due to the high rates of sexual assault and other violent crimes from local men (be they Hindu, Muslim, Sikh or whatever).
jule says
Ibrahim: Who are the WE in the Qur’an. All through the book, sentences start with WE said to the angels:”Bow down to Adam”
WE said:O Adam! You and your wife live in the Garden”
WE delivered
WE divided
WE appointed
WE did forgive
WE gave Moses
WE gave you the shade of clouds
WE have provided for you
It goes on and on like that. So who is WE. It is not angels because it says Behold, We said to the angels.
WE is all through out the whole book…so who is WE?
mortimer says
The cult of Mithraism did not influence Chrisitanity and came after it. Mithraism resembles Islam… a male warrior cult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE&t=594s
mortimer says
Right, Ibrahim, when you are dictator you can ‘KICK’ people you disapprove of and then murder hundreds of millions and then DENY that you murdered them and PRETEND it never happened.
Ibrahim, you are observed.
jule says
Mithra has nothing to do with Christians. We never even heard of Mithra so I looked it up and it was spread by the Ancient Roman Empire, which ruled Persia even for awhile. The killing sacrifice of a bull was big deal for this ‘Mystery Cult’ and temples were built all over wherever Pre Christian Rome or Greece conquered. I think ‘Mithra’, that way of saying it, is the Akkadian language used in many countries with Mithra. Persia to most of Europe, Levant etc once under Rome had most of these Temples were later destroyed by Christians After they were organized. How do you put Mithra and Christians together when they opposed each other? Like I say, most of us in the West don’t even know what you are talking about with ‘Mithra’. What IS that? we wonder.
gravenimage says
Jule, Ibrahim itace muhammed is hoping he can get people to believe that Christianity is actually a pagan faith, so that he can (as he sees it) justify Muslims slaughtering Christians.
somehistory says
The oic has been working on this…the ‘no criticism of islam” since they met with hillary clinton back in 2011.
They have a lot of headway since then. Many “western” countries have enacted laws that fine and imprison those who say anything…truth or not…about islam if moslims think what is being said is criticizing islam or moslims.
This guy from turkey just wants it to be absolute, no exceptions. There is to be no freedom to speak the truth about islam. Fines, prison, and death are all in the mix when moslims consider the consequences of speaking the truth about their evil cult and code of evil behavior..
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Alex smythe, I have evaluated the sources relied upon by Mr spencer, especially on the alleged mass killings by Muslim rulers in India, and found that they were all based on Legends or speculative hearsays documented as chronicles, not supported by archeological evidence. One Hindu barbarian at this site , relying on Mr Spencer’s fictitious book ,asserted that muslim rulers killed more than 250 million Hindus while the whole population of India at that time was less than 200 millions, how did Hindu barbarians managed to survive and multiplied to more than 1billion now?
WPM says
250 million over the course of centuries to about a million a year ,it had ups and downs in the rate of killing . It greatly slow down when the British took over India not just because for humanity reasons ,but trade and commence are hamper when Moslems are killing ,robbing the local Hindus who would rather trade, work and make things, plant crops .Moslem living peaceable with other religions is the real legends, and fairy tales of history still pushed today to further the Islamic agenda .Moslems are quick to destroy any Temple ,or church,, burn any book, destroy any artwork they come across in their war on anything not Islamic, kill or enslave non-Moslems that has been documented .It also the thing to do by the instructions in the Koran ,Hadiths , and by Sharia law .If they lack the numbers for outright warfare they try to get books, and other information that explains Islam real nature ban and critics silenced. If you look at India, and Pakistan both free from British rule in the 1940s India has made great strides into starting to enter the first world in trade, manufacturing ,banking, and Pakistan is still stuck in tribal warfare within itself because of Islam. Pakistan is a backward bywater ,that has to depend on outside sources to keep it solvent and stable.
J D S says
Ibrahim…you are brainwashed by a non being that never has been been proven to have existed .
jule says
People believe the myths of Mohammed and Jinns but doubt the legends of Islam against Indians? Do those people know ‘Pakistan’ was ripped out of India by the Brits 1947 and given to Muslims. 300,000+ Indians had to relocate or be killed (are still being killed) and Kashmir is STILL India. Pakistan is a sewer today, running with BS and blood, killing Hindu, Christians, and anyone for made up ‘rules’ as an excuse. Oh, does that sound angry? Gee, does that sound like I might criticize the excuses these people use called Islam for doing what they do to others? For body bombs, ‘martyrs’, for burning people alive & murderers of women and children for old tribal offenses from thousands of years ago AND CALLING IT FOR RELIGION? Might I be ANTI what they teach? You can bet on it.
mortimer says
Ibrahim, in 1971 alone, MUSLIMS killed 3 MILLION HINDUS in Bangladesh … 400,000 Hindu women were raped by Pakistan army … 1971 FATWA TO RAPE BENGALI WOMEN = 400,000 RAPED BY PAK ARMY
“During the war, a fatwa in Pakistan declared that the Bengali ‘freedom fighters’ were Hindus and that their women could be taken as the ‘booty of war’.[ Herbert L. Bodman, Nayereh Esfahlani Tohidi 1998, p. 208.] Imams and Muslim religious leaders publicly declared that the Bengali women were ‘gonimoter maal’ (war booty) and thus they openly supported the rape of Bengali women by the Pakistani Army.
jule says
Thank you for the video on Mythras. As we knew, Mythras has nothing to do with Christianity.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Jule, you don’t even know that the plural pronoun “we ” refers to majestic pronouncement as single Entity above all?we don’t have divine plurality like pagan mithraist christianity with 3 entities or persons making one God.
WPM says
You should be the last person to give grammar ,or spelling lessons on this website. With your nonsense about kicking Holy spirits ,vague misspelled ranting, grammar mistakes ,in ass clown Moslem fashion .Allah cannot visit the house he built in this world according to your Koran , he needs his angels to visit Mohammed to past information ,devil spites whispering into an illiterate,s ear. Why of all people to choose to lead the people to “Heaven” would God choose an illiterate , thieving , raping , murdering ,child molesting ,violently disturbed man ? That man should lead a violent war against anyone who would not accept his slave master God? That he would slander the Jews , Christians ,and violently try to kill or enslave them?That the Jews and Christians should accept third class citizenship in Moslem held lands or face death .
FYI says
“we don’t have divine plurality”
Sorry,are you talking about yourself{ ibby#1,ibby#2}?You sound like the moslem Gollum.
One Ninja Japanese-style kick might help…and correct the cognitive malfunctions of the islamic troll’s primitive mind…
jule says
You make absolutely no sense and WE does not mean one unless is meant many are the ingredients making the one or everything included inside the one or the one is everything together. WE does not mean singular. We is plural. Plural is more than one. The only way you could make sense of it is to say a bit of the Greatest one resides in the many. All the many are made from the ONE….like pieces of a shattered mirror, or exploded star or all from the same source. WE is PLURAL. Plural is two or many many. Its only ONE if all the many make into the ONE, not separate from the one. Then all the many say WE.
mortimer says
WILL THEY ELIMINATE *KAFIR-O-PHOBIA” … the HATRED of KAFIRS ‘ for the sake of ALLAH’ ???
ISLAM HAS A CANONICAL DOCTRINE OF HATRED directed against the DIRTY KUFAAR …
Muslims are obligated :
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the dirty kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
HATRED OF KAFIRS (all non-Muslims) is NORMATIVE ISLAM, rather than an aberration.
mortimer says
Religious leader Ali Erbaş believes …
1) KAFIR-O-PHOBIA is ‘good’
2) ISLAM-O-PHOBIA is ‘bad’
3) IT ISN’T ‘PHOBIA’ or ‘HATRED’ … when we MUSLIMS DO IT!
Wellington says
More deceptive self-pity from a Buttlim (again I will note I often call Muslims “Buttlims” because they have managed to “achieve” the most ridiculous posture of praying in the history of religion, i.e., with their asses, their butts, in the air).
Islam fails at everything—liberty, equality under the law, women’s rights, a true Golden Rule for all, the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings {for instance, the far more horrible record the Islamic world “owns” on black slavery than does the West}, considering music haram, considering fine wine, fine beer and great Scotch and vodka haram, romantic love, any kind of love, and even the way prayer is engaged in by Buttlims, replete not only with asses in the air but often with zebibahs as well—yes indeed, it’s a very long list of Islam’s many failures. I have noted only a sampling and no more.
I despise Islam. Why, I would ask anyone, should I not?
Westman says
Well, uh, uh, uh…..
There are some nice people born into it who never had a choice for anything better?
Naw…I guess this is like saying there were nice people dominated by the ideologies of Stalin and Pol Pot. Any ideology that depends on coercion and censure is a failure that ultimately cuts the hamstrings of its society.
Islam can never return to its “golden era” because power in the world no longer belongs to physical strength. The best Islam army can be destroyed by an unbelieving woman pushing a button; all due to cooperative advancement of the unbelievers. Cooperative advancement does not exist in Muslim society because it requires abandoning tribalism and creating multi-nation cooperation.
Islam is so far behind that the non-jihad portion of migration to Europe is a case of, “We can’t beat them, and it will never get better here, so let’s go get what we can.” If not for Saudi Arabia building mosques in Europe, many Muslims would be leaving Islam.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington, you mean you don’t feel it when the satan mithraist christians Call Holy Spirit is having anus sex with you while you are busy fucking your horrible bad smelly lady raising up your butt? Get a piece of cloth to cover your butt while in action.
jayell says
Mr Muhammed, yet again you excel and surely earn your place amongst the immortal poets of the public convenience cubicle. One day I am sure we will all hope to see the most holy writings of your reverred religion inscribed upon the paper products to found therein, for which they will certainly be put to a most fitting use.
Westman says
“…spread either by the enemies or by those from us who do not know the purpose of this religion..”
When Christians don’t know the purpose of their religion, they don’t go to church or worry about heaven/hell/paradise or commit violence in the name of God. We call them, lapsed, inactive, etc.
Now Ali Erbas tells us that when Muslims “from us(Muslims)” don’t know their religion, they go to the Masjid, pray fervently, read the Quran and Sunnah intently, and get some notion that they are to violently punish unbelievers in the name of Allah and achieve Jannah as a martyr. And, to think there are hundreds of millions of them who, like this, don’t know their religion!
Well, get cracking Ali! You’ve got a big job ahead getting those ignorant of Islam to stop reading the Quran and Sunnah, and for certain, get them to stop going to those Mosques where the have been losing their knowledge of Islam.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Westman.
Terry Gain says
Islam fails at everything—liberty, equality under the law, women’s rights, a true Golden Rule for all, the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings {for instance, the far more horrible record the Islamic world “owns” on black slavery than does the West}, considering music haram, considering fine wine, fine beer and great Scotch and vodka haram, romantic love, AND A RATIONAL ATTEMPT TO BE A RELIGION.
Wellington says
Well, Terry, there is nothing I know of in American law per the American Constitution and Supreme Court decisions since the Marbury v. Madison case (1803), when the Supreme Court set itself up as the ultimate arbiter of what is constitutional—and thus what is legal and what is not—that judicially requires a religion to be “a rational attempt to be a religion” in order to be considered a religion for First Amendment purposes. If you do, please enlighten me of such a case.
Oh yeah, do so. I aver there is none, but perhaps you know more about American constitutional and statutory law than I do. Your turn.
jule says
Not to your point but If a ‘religion’ does not follow the other guidelines of the Constitution, it cannot Be in this country. First Amendment or not, it has to fit the other conditions. Not Everything can be ‘religion’ just because someone says it is.Especially, it cannot step on the rights of others or call itself Supremacist. America has no Supremacist or dictator or King, Nor special tribes or clans or gangs or inequality. Anything that does, cannot fit and if allowed will eventually destroy the core of why we were established. Equality. (that is also why nazigroups do not fit, or Supremacists or KKKlan & no way does Islam fit when you know what it is and what it wants)
Carol the 1st says
We all know “the law can be an ass” – which just goes to show its rulings can’t stop Terry from being absolutely right!
gravenimage says
Turkey’s religious affairs top dog: Important area of cooperation with Europe is efforts to eliminate Islamophobia
……………………
Erdogan does not want Infidels to be able to expose how violent Islam is–and all too many dhimmis in the EU appear to agree with him.
jule says
If Islam did not kill, punish or censor apostates or anyone who will not BELIEVE them, they would cease to exist. Thats why they HAVE to censor, punish or kill with the hit list. How else can this false warlord gang continue? It must conquer using these techniques against the ‘Islamophobes’ who they are taught to hate/criticize and bully.
And it is not just ‘Arabized’ Sunni but Shia as well. And Shia (and Arab Sunni) is spreading throughout South America with Iran even having a propaganda HispTV channel in Spanish for years. In early days, many of the slaves sent to South America were forced converted when captured by Arab slave traders.
rubiconcrest says
What to a Muslim is “Islamophobia’ is to us ‘Freedom of Speech’. The Islam genie is out of the bottle and cannot be put back.
Wellington says
Agreed.
Anjuli Pandavar says
So this seventh-century relic presumes to lecture *us*?
Wellington says
Seconded.
DHazard says
It’s the smear that hides the fear, the fear any semi intelligent Muslim or leftist journalist must have had; that there is something deeply and fundamentally wrong with Islam.
The person who invented the words “Islamophobia” and “Islamophobe” has done more to further the cause of terrorism than the Muslim Brotherhood. It has become so all inclusive that even quoting the Quran, under the right circumstances, can earn you the smear.
Fen Polder says
Islamophobia is an oxymoron.
If a phobia is an irrational fear of something, and if fear of Islamic terrorism is rational, then Islamophobia is illogical because it is a rational fear.
jewdog says
This is my recent letter published in the Jerusalem Post (11/7) on Turkey:
Dear Editor,
A recent news article by Seth Frantzman (“Washington’s crises in eastern Syria as Turkey shells Kurds”) discusses the increasingly problematic dilemma of NATO ally Turkey working at cross-purposes to our goals. This crisis will only worsen as Turkey continues its devolution into extremism.
One consequence of this extremism has been racially motivated nationalism which has manifested itself in violent suppression of our Kurdish allies, pro-western moderates whose help has been so crucial in the fight against ISIS. In addition, the Kurds provide valuable stability to the areas they control; attacking them undermines our basic strategy in Syria.
Another consequence has been Turkey’s quiet effort to aid ISIS in Iraq. According to Iraqi general Aref al-Zebari, in an October 25th report in Breitbart, Turkey has permitted foreign agents to pipeline support to the remaining, recently defeated ISIS fighters in Mosul to help them regroup.
As hard as it is to accept, Turkey can no longer be considered a reliable ally and should be expelled from NATO. We should cut off all military aid to Turkey, withdraw our bases and cease intelligence sharing. It is crystal clear that Recep Erdogan is hell-bent on transforming Turkey into a Sunni version of Iran. As future confrontations will be inevitable with such a state, we could come to regret having helped arm it.
Sincerely yours,
Jewdog
jule says
Exactly true. Should have been cut out years ago and I cannot figure out Why it hasn’t been Done. Because of Germany? Because of ‘little Turkey in Germany plus immigration? But it will have to be done.
jewdog says
Why? I can think of two reasons: Inertia and insecurity. The West lacks confidence in itself, and the bureaucrats in NATO are bureaucrats.
jule says
Yes, you are right again. Passive, lazy, cowardly, insecure, unrealistic wishful thinking, helpless, hand-wringers with no intelligent leadership.
Jack Holan says
ROBERT, the sad joke of this Ali,One who spreads the blasphemy laws of Sharia to Europe by using National Governments to accept responsibility for Islamophobia whatever this subjective crime is conjured up to be. Ali would certainly never allow you to present The History Of Jihad that might create an environment for serious research and critical thinking. Both are strongly discouraged in Theocratic or otherwise Despotic Regimes. At some point the Spirit Of AttaTurk will rekindle the strong desire of the People to separate from Erdogan Ali and the rest with the Military using its power to to assert the defining role of retuning Turkey to a quasi-Democracy.
Fred says
Just posting this link about Florida terror cases.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/prominent-terror-cases-with-ties-to-florida/2282146
Wellington says
Sometimes, and to some degree defensible, it is difficult to wrap one’s head around just how retrograde and despicable Islam really is. The presumption is made, to some extent understandable, that all major religions must be OK overall. But this, ultimately, is an erroneous presumption and Islam serves as the sterling example of this understandable, but nonetheless profoundly unfortunate, error.
Oh yeah, grant Mo’s creed the status of a religion, let it be legal, let it be allowed, but also be sure to note that it is a wicked religion and never should it be accorded any respect in our time, anymore than Nazism is, which secular totalitarianism, as opposed to the spiritual totalitarianism that Islam clearly is, should also be kept legal as a testimony, a la Jefferson, to how informed and free societies can tolerate even those belief systems which would end freedom if only given the chance.
To do so in free societies respecting Islam, i.e., proffer the idea that Mohammedanism is a good belief system, as nauseatingly mentioned by deficient Westerners such as May, Trudeau, the current piss-ass excuse for a Pope, still the Clintons, still the Obamas, Trudeau, Macron, et al., is to invite most directly and terribly the destruction of the only major (or minor for that matter) civilization which keenly, most originally and highly laudably tied itself to the development, exploration and limits of freedom, i.e., Western Civilization.
And which civilization is the ONLY civilization that can be excoriated in our time with little to no consequence, and which stupid excoriation alone should be a signal to all of sense and knowledge that the rest of the world, and certainly the Islamic world, does indeed protest way too much. These others, i.e., non-Western civilizations and societies, have to protest against the West because none of them, not one damn one, have had any real acquaintance with liberty as has the West. But the West need not, should not, must not, allow itself to be devoured on an altar of tolerance so broad that it will result in the end of tolerance. Just as the American Constitution is not a suicide pact, neither should liberty be. Surely.
By now, all who are informed know all this which I have just written. It ain’t rocket science here, “merely” common sense and indicative of a proper moral compass and basic knowledge. Alas, this trinity of wisdom seems to be in shorter supply with each passing decade. Islam, Antifa and other retrograde belief systems are banking on this increasing dearth. Surely.
Carol the 1st says
So many casually knock our little old non-combative Christianity – but here’s a better idea of what it has produced and protected:
The Catholic Church Built Western Civilization | Duke Pesta and Stefan Molyneux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-eUnj1ATMc&t=2546s
David Grisez says
There are problems with this word “Islamophobia”. This word does not describe any phobia type mental illness. Instead this word was apparently developed for the main purpose of putting a derogatory label on people who endeavor to accurately and truthfully point out the problems of Islam and criticize Islam. This word is an attempt to suppress accurate and truthful discussion about Islam.
somehistory says
The word was coined by the oic. For the very purpose you state in your last sentence above.
rubiconcrest says
Exposing Islam to the light of day is what Islam fears. The greater it’s fear the louder the screams, ‘Islamophobia’. A tidal wave of public opinion is building and Islam knows it cannot be stopped. It has taken 17 years but it is growing. Those who died on 9/11 and all the rest from service men to civilians have not died in vain.
gravenimage says
test
infidel says
What about the Khafir-o-phobia spouted by this vile creature and his likes regularly.. Nothing about that..!!
Michael Copeland says
“…. the purpose of this religion” – Ali Erbas
Osama bin Laden explains:
“Battle, animosity, and hatred—directed from the Muslim to the infidel—is the foundation of our religion.”
The Al Qaeda Reader, p. 43.
infidel says
Can U imagine how the world would have been, if one or two Islamic countries were the actual superpowers and not USA anc China that we see in reality. The world would have then plunged into eternal darkness and war. The super power Islamic countries would have made sure to arm all the smaller Islamic countries with deadly weapons of mass destruction and made them attack and destroy all their non-Muslim neighbors. And there would be NO UN.. Only..IN (Islamic nations) and no non-Muslim countries can become the member of this IN but all non Muslim countries must pay JIzzya to IN annually. And these are the same Islamic nations today that talk about freedom and democracy and Islamophobia at the UN… What stinking hypocrisy..!!!
islamic text says
Please Google
Blatant Lies: Prophet Muhammad was a very peaceful man, human right champion, feminine, never hurt anyone, never hurt fly, much less killed anyone.
Mullah mafia & Mohammdens hijacking truth.
Anne says Apr 5, 2018 at 5:15 am
Mohammed was a man of his time. A Warlord’ ! If violent verses are in the Quran , and they are , Then acknowledge it ! In Jesus’s time , when he walked the earth , he spoke no violence to anyone ,. Believe or don’t believe. We have free will .
No religion is worth anything if someone is holding a gun to your head or a knife at your throat ! Islam behaves like the Mafia , making offers that you cannot refuse ! Which would be funny if it weren’t to damn tragic ..
SirHappyThe1st1 month ago
In the Quran Allah killed men, women, babies and animals in the story of Lot and Noah so what is the Muslim talking about? and why do Muslims always answer a question with a question?
NOTE: If someone had only ONE Islamic source from which to judge Islam, this would be the source. Read it cover-to-cover including the footnotes by Tabari. According to Ishaq the trouble starts even before Muhammad was born: Page 94: Ibnu’l-Hayyaban came from Syria to Mecca in order the hope of seeing the “…emergence of a prophet whose time was at hand” and was a Jewish soothsayer. He predicts the coming of Muhammad by noting the following: “His time has come, and don’t let anyone get to him before you, O Jews; for he will be sent to shed blood and to take captive the women and children of those who oppose him. Let not that keep you back from him”.]
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
the first biography of Muhammad, by the the eighth century devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, several times ordered the murders of people who have insulted him. you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
List of 43 Incidents When Mohammed Ordered or Supported KILLING
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by mohammed
ACCOUNT OF MOHAMMED’S VIGILANTE MURDERS
Please Google
Muhammad’s “Dead Poets Society”
brotherjw
PLEASE, LISTEN THIS U-TUBE VIDEO. THIS Ex-muslim provides tremendous information with references in it. HE DOES NOT SHOW HIS FACE BECAUSE HE is BEING LISTENED IN THE FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES LIKE SAUDI ARABIA AND PAKISTAN.
Published on 7 May 2008
Comments & Discussion: http://brotherpete.com/index.php?boar…
HISTORY OF MECCA http://www.historyofmecca.com
Please visit: http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3 For more on Mohammed, as bequeathed to us from the hadith.
Was Muhammad the ‘Prophet of Peace’ that his followers claim? Discover the Facts in 4 Chapters.
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Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 -900 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
[Asma Bint Marwan, a contemporary Muhammad in Medina. She was a critic of Muhammad and his Jihadists. You can find out what happened to her in the Hadith of Ibn Ishaq:
The fate of Asma Bint Marwan, Ishaq (p. 676):
“‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?’ Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?’ Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet’s wishes. That very night he crept into the writer’s home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.’ Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?’ ‘No,’ the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.’”
So it goes, that the critics of Islam are dispatched, and goats are still butting heads. I can only think of Theo Van Gogh, or Charlie Hebdo, or any of a number of countless critics who have disappeared into the abyss of history.
Remember Obama in his 2012 UN speech: “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”.
Kasey says
Meanwhile in Australia, its PM opens up on Islam after the horrific attack in Melbourne last Friday.
https://free-speechfront.blogspot.com/2018/11/muslims-are-outraged-as-australian-pm.html?fbclid=IwAR1J1i2WaDMZXW2T9Mh2p4T_bb0S9fDop3kWHCrLkE1O_pfzOS7ltautbF4
Ren says
How about promoting islamophobia?
Solidspine says
Best way to eliminate this so called Islamophobia (which does not exist)
is to eliminate our number one enemy –
islam.
Wonderful if it were done today.
Resistance is not futile says
Most of the negative sentiment towards muslims stems from islam and what it means for non muslims and the west. Islam is not compatible with our way of life, if you need proof just look at the reaction of muslim men when they find out their teen daughters are living a western lifestyle. I always say the women get raped and the men get gang beaten and stabbed, ofcourse a generalization but with some truth in it.
Paddy OConnor says
In short-“Bend over and do what you are bid”.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
welligton, you mean you don’t feel it when the satan mithraist christians Call Holy Spirit is having anus sex with you at the back while you are busy fucking your horrible bad smelly lady raising up your butt ? Always get a cloth to cover your butt
Carol the 1st says
Ibby…That marshmallow on Ali Erbas’ head isn’t serving as a very effective butt plug for his putrid brain:
Head of Turkey’s Religious Affairs Directorate decries “…Islamophobia spread either by the enemies or by those from us WHO DO NOT KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THIS RELIGION.”
What an absolutely insane rationalization for ongoing Islamic evil – and sanctifying it via some farfetched fantasy of pie in the sky purpose somehow dependent on little old you! Will it take nuclear war for the world to be rid of this ludicrous 1400 year-old curse?!? GET OVER YOURSELVES! CLOWNS!
gravenimage says
This is the caliber of thought one has come to expect from pious Muslims here…
Hudson says
A phobia is an irrational fear of something. If you speak out against someone or something that causes mass murder, violent attacks against innocent people, repression of women, rape gangs, etc, that not an irrational fear. It’s being a responsible citizen that is willing speak the truth, regardless of who it offends.
On the other hand, if a person sees these types evils perpetrated on their fellow citizens and says nothing, denies it’s happening, and instead defends the perpetrators, that’s called being a treasonous coward.