“In Arabic, the imam made the declaration: ‘Allah is the greatest; I bear witness that there is no other God but Allah; I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.'”
In traditional Islamic theology, that makes the cathedral a mosque. In any case, this has caused an uproar in Britain, which will doubtless lead to charges of “Islamophobia” against those who are upset. Peter Howell-Jones, the dean of Blackburn Cathedral, however, agrees with those who are angry: “I don’t think this should have happened here. If people are going to call for my resignation there’s nothing more I can say or do to people to pacify them because actually I agree with their arguments.” So it was all a mistake, apparently, but it’s noteworthy that Christian professions of faith are never mistakenly sounded out in mosques.
“Row as imam recites the Muslim call to prayer during a Church of England cathedral’s Armistice concert without permission,” by Connor Boyd, Mailonline, November 18, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
An imam was filmed reciting the Muslim call to prayer in a Church of England cathedral the night before Remembrance Day.
He performed the call to worship in front of an audience of around 400 people in Blackburn Cathedral last Saturday.
In Arabic, the imam made the declaration: ‘Allah is the greatest; I bear witness that there is no other God but Allah; I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.’
It was part of a concert to commemorate the armistice and was carried out without the church’s permission.
It was part of an organised concert to commemorate Remembrance Day – but his call to worship was carried out without the church’s permission
Peter Howell-Jones, the dean of Blackburn Cathedral, has said he ‘partially agrees’ with calls for his resignation.
He told The Sunday Times: ‘I don’t think this should have happened here. If people are going to call for my resignation there’s nothing more I can say or do to people to pacify them because actually I agree with their arguments.’
The call to prayer was part of Welsh composer Karl Jenkins’ The Armed Man – an anti-war Mass – organised by Blackburn Music Society.
The second movement, which is sometimes omitted, is a traditional Muslim adhan recited in Arabic.
The dean only realised that the Muslim call to prayer was in the piece shortly before it began and didn’t want to cause upset by removing it, the newspaper reports.
Mr Howell-Jones said he never looked into the contents of the Mass because the Blackburn Music Society regularly held events at the church and no controversy had ever come of them.
It’s thought the music society asked the imam, rather than a musician, for the part on the advice of the Blackburn with Darwen Interfaith Forum….
Patsy Koenig says
“Allah is greater, etc., is proof that Muslims do NOT worship the same God as Christians. 1.) Islam asserts that Allah is greater than the Holy Trinity, and 2.) A convert to Islam must say, “There is no god, but Allah… and Mohammed is his messenger.” A convert to Islam CANNOT SAY, “There is no god, but God… and Allah is his messenger.”
Martin says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWmDh5LoVUg
mortimer says
THE SUPREMACIST PRAYERS OF ISLAM explicitly condemn Christianity and thus have no place in any Christian church.
The Words of the Adhan
The following is the Arabic transliteration and the English translation of what you hear:
Allahu Akbar
God is Great
(said four times)
Ashhadu an la ilaha illa Allah
I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
(said two times)
Ashadu anna Muhammadan Rasool Allah
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
(said two times)
Hayya ‘ala-s-Salah
Hurry to the prayer (Rise up for prayer)
(said two times)
Hayya ‘ala-l-Falah
Hurry to success (Rise up for Salvation)
(said two times)
Allahu Akbar
God is Great
[said two times]
La ilaha illa Allah
There is no god except the One God
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For the pre-dawn (fajr) prayer, the following phrase is inserted after the fifth part above, towards the end:
As-salatu Khayrun Minan-nawm
Prayer is better than sleep
(said two times)
Jennifer King says
Wrong! The words of the shahada, the pledge of faith and the adhan, call to prayer:
In the shahada first the denial: there is no God-God
then the affirmation: there is only Allah.
La ilaha illa Allah means There is no god except Allah.
In Arabic and the Qur’an, God is always Ilah. Allah is always and only Allah.
Allahu Akbar means Allah is greater.
Ilah. ʾIlāh (Arabic: إله; plural: آلهة ʾālihah) is an Arabic term used throughout the Quran in verses about Almighty God, Al-Rahman, the Beneficent.
Andy says
THE DEATH OF NATIONS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJJ1JvNN7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbzav6UITA
strongaingel says
Replace All where you have written God, and yu have it more or less corect. “God” in Arabic is “Lah”. … Th term is actually a Sumerian loan word and means “Plunderer”.
strongaingel says
Sorry; my wireless KB is playing up! What I originally meant to write (see below) is this…
Replace Allah where you have written God, and you have it more or less correct. “God” in Arabic is “Lah”. … The term is actually a Sumerian loan word and means “Plunderer”.
NOTE: IS pit/clay-pit; LAM hell/netherworld; MUS snake; LAM face/presence AL of/the; LAH plunderer are all loaned from the Sumerian lexicon.
strongaingel says
Nov 19, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Replace All where you have written God, and yu have it more or less corect. “God” in Arabic is “Lah”. … Th term is actually a Sumerian loan word and means “Plunderer”.
Carol the 1st says
I’ve had little doubt but that the “last cosmic laugh” is to be on the duped and innocent followers of Allah. Now we can see the “out” – they will suddenly be aghast and “get the insider joke” and realize his nickname ALL ALONG has been “the PLUNDERER”!
A new drama unfolds. Be ready to pull out your hankies on their behalf.
gravenimage says
Why didn’t someone–at the *very least*–pull the mike?
JW_Reader says
This whole interfaith thing is a scam to propagate Islam!
Frank Anderson says
JW Reader. according to my Jewish mother by choice, her distant cousin went to the Vatican to help get a Christian Jewish dialog started. She was very proud of the family connection and called upon me to take her as long as she could attend local events. Of course, I did with greatest pleasure.
There could not be a more vivid illustration of the teaching from Exodus, that no matter how well things start, they change. What was Possibly a real, effective effort to reduce conflict among Christians and Jews changed into what I see, and others possibly with me, as a sell-out to islam. When simple obvious truth directly from the “final, perfect, complete, unchangeable” statement of islam becomes too hot to speak in mixed company (Jews and Christians) what happens next? “There are none so blind as those who REFUSE to see.” “When the blind follow the blind, both will fall.”
Elisha says
All Jews reading this, please remember to actually READ the Old Testament:
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From everlasting.” – Micah 5:2
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King is coming to you;
He is just and having salvation,
Lowly and riding on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey. – Zechariah 9:9
Clear, FULFILLED PROPHECY. And I didn’t even touch on Isaiah 53 …
“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.” – Zechariah 12:10
Jesus Christ speaking in the first sentence, alongside His Father, who speaks in the second sentence!
The apostle Paul reminds you:
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? – Romans 9:22-24
As He says also in Hosea:
“I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”
“And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.” [Hosea 2:23]
Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:
“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.” [Isaiah 10:22-23, 28:22]
And as Isaiah said before:
“Unless the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.” [Isaiah 1:9, 13:19] – Romans 9:22-29
For THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEW AND GREEK, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? – Romans 10:12-14
And what did YHWH say through His prophet Hosea?
My people are destroyed for LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. – Hosea 4:6
The Belief in Jesus as God before Nicea – Dr Michael Heiser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Ry_uEMG-k
NO EXCUSES!
Carolyn says
Nonsense.
gravenimage says
Most interfaith dialog is fine–trying to do the same with violent, supremacist Muslims does not work.
Carol the 1st says
Frank, in the video below Roger Scruton (SIR Roger Scruton actually – knighted in the 2016 Birthday Honours for “services to philosophy, teaching and public education”) pleasantly discusses many present-day concerns regarding Islam (at one point he makes some very complimentary statements about Jews as well). He’s well worth listening to and has a most interesting biography which begins: “an English philosopher and writer who specializes in aesthetics and *political philosophy*, particularly in the furtherance of traditionalist conservative views” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Scruton
Roger Scruton on Christianity v Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHC6x367GMc
Frank Anderson says
Carol, thank you for the reference. It is most interesting and highly appreciated.
I have a short story about a lawyer-friend who died recently. When he was in law school, he had a Jewish classmate who took issue with a professor (part of the standard Socratic teaching method) about a case involving Orthodox Jews. Other classmates, not knowing him to be Jewish, took his highly informed criticism of certain practices, shunned both for several months thinking my friend’s friend to be a Jew-hater. Finally one of the “leaders” asked my friend why he continued associating with the incorrectly understood, alleged Jew-hater. My friend laughed himself silly as he told the Christian critic that the Jew-hater was actually Jewish and knew what he was talking about.
I dearly love Judaism and many friends that I know because of spending more than 20 years in their company. I am not considered Jewish by the Jewish community. Just as I am free to choose my friends, so are they. I believe I have the Ultimate Friend who has been with me all my life, even when I said He was not. I hope I have followed good paths by that inspiration at least some of the time; and admit that I have failed a lot more than I wish. To me, the teachings of Judaism represent great value in the quest for good mental health. To watch such teachings be ignored by those who do not learn from the lessons of the past breaks my heart. I can only illustrate my sadness by pointing out that I have not only heard, but recorded, many Holocaust survivors, many of whom said, “We just didn’t believe it could happen.”
Jennifer King says
Allah is not God. In Arabic and the Qur’an, Almighty God is Ilah, Al-Rahman. Allah is always Allah ‘the god’.
The shahada, the pledge of faith in Islam, denies God. There is no god but Allah.
Ezra Adamson says
What else would one expect of a polytheistic, pagan religion with which the moslem world is besotted?
somehistory says
Vomit worthy”call.” Just shows how important it is to “make sure of all things and hold fast to what is fine.”
Jay says
England is lost! PM Churchill is not resting well today! The sovereignty of England and the English citizens is at risk and diminishes a little day by day!
God save the queen!
mortimer says
Anglican priest MARK DURIE (theologian and psychologist) says CHRISTIANS SHOULD NOT OPEN CHURCHES FOR ISLAMIC PRAYER … there are MANY REASONS not to do so.
Chiefly, Christian churches should not welcome into their buildings the veneration of Isa the Islamic Jesus, who, as a true Muslim, is intended to bring about the final, VIOLENT DESTRUCTION of Christianity. By all means, let Christians show kindness to their Muslim neighbors, but the sentiments embedded in Islamic daily prayers, which curse Jews as the target of Allah’s wrath and Christians for going astray, can have no place in a Christian church – even if recited in the cadences of classical Arabic.
Moreover, the adnan is a SUPREMACIST CALL TO PRAY AGAINST JEWS AND CHRISTIANS. Muslims CURSE Jews and Christians in their authorized prayers 17 times a day. This is not acceptable in a church.
Rev. Mark Durie, an Anglican priest, is the author of “Revelation: Do We Worship the Same God?”(City Harvest International, 2010) and “The Third Choice: Islam, Dhimmitude and Freedom” (Deror Books, 2010).
mortimer says
I apologize, MARK DURIE’S PhD is in linguistics. He is a fellow of the Australian Academy of the Humanities.
Ezra Adamson says
Excellent. I had just about given up on our Anglican brothers and sisters.
Roger woodhouse says
Will Prince Charles put an end to the gradual Islamisation of England?Will he pronounce to be the ‘defender of the faith’at his coronation or will he chicken out and promise to be defender ‘of all faiths’as he once declared he would say on that occasion?Unless he does so then we can expect a further deterioration of our Christian heritage here in Britain
gravenimage says
Prince Charles is alarmingly Islamophilic.
Peggy says
The queen as a defender of the faith is very silent on this one.
God is not going to save her. It’s her duty to speak up and defend the faith so why is she silent?
The queen can burn in Hell for all I care now. She had a duty to fix this. As the head of Church of England she has a duty to save her church and yet she does NOTHING.
gravenimage says
UK: Imam recites Islamic call to prayer during Church of England cathedral’s Armistice Day concert
……………………
Using an Infidel remembrance of the defense of Britain for this foul Da’wa.
I’m glad patriotic Britons are angry.
Peggy says
As the head of Church of England and defender of faith the Queen is silent.
What a traitor.
WPM says
{ I guess Saudi money talks the Queen walks} away from any respond to cursing Christians and Jews in Islamic pray in a Church of England .She does not want to upset the overlords of Islam.
gravenimage says
She has said a few small things against Jihad–but yes, she has been largely silent, which is shameful.
Peggy says
It’s not just a matter of being silent. She allowed her church to be turned into a mosque and she is the head of C of E.
She is the top dog and can tell the bishops to cut it out.
If she, as the defender of the faith, won’t defend her church then all is lost there.
It is her duty. She doesn’t have to badmouth Islam but she does have to prevent her churches becoming mosques.
I wonder what would her predecessors say.
allahscum says
Stupidity and inaction will be the death of us. They are screaming at us that they are supreme yet they live as though it’s the 6th century. Damn them to hell, all of them and especially those that thought to bring in this pestilence.
FYI says
Abomination!
You may as well have a satanist ceremony!islamic “prayers” are not dedicated to God.
That islamic fatiha “prayer” to allah which muslims say daily INSULTS Jews and Christians.
allah is NOT the Judeo-Christian Biblical God;allah is “the best of DECEIVERS” K3:54
allah and his false prophet are deceiving liars.
These people who call themselves Christians should have a prayer service to cast out the evil demons of islamic “prayer”..
Remember that..
1 the koran CURSES Christians simply for believing in Jesus koran 9:30
2 in violation of God’s 2nd chief commandment{which like the Golden Rule,is MISSING in islam.. of course}
alalh tells muslims NOT to associate with christians koran 5: 51
There is no “love thy neighbor” in islam:There are no TWO Chief commandments in islam.
3 muslims will always BEAR FALSE WITNESS to promote islam{taqqiya,tawriya,Taysin,kitman ,darura,muruna..look these terms up]
4 Despite claiming to have written the Gospel{koran 5:47-48}and claiming it to be true, allah the liar god of islam DENIES both the crucifixion k4:157 and the theology of the Trinityk4:171{remember that allah claims he personally wrote the Gospel so by denying its contents.. allah is shown to be a LIAR}
Stop this “interfaith” nonsense:islam is both antiChristian AND antiJewish!
Frank Anderson says
FYI, from what I saw in about 20 years of interfaith dialogue among Christians and Jews, there was little harm and a lot of good for the effort. I had the honor and pleasure of taking one of my mothers-by-choice to every local meeting during that time. When it became a “trialogue” with muslims, everything went to pieces for fear of offending muslims and collaborating “religion of peace” snowflakes with the truth. When efforts to stop 2,000 years of hatred of Jews falls apart because truth has become poison, the efforts have failed. Next case (opportunity).
FYI says
Interfaith between Jews and Christians and Catholics and Protestants:that’s fine!
Interfaith with islam is NOT OK because of islam’s supremacist nature.
I would not expect any self-respecting Rabbi in a Synagogue or a Pastor in a Church to allow islamic “prayers” to be said in their places of worship.
gravenimage says
+1
Frank Anderson says
FYI, I was asked to leave because I mentioned the supremacist nature of islam. I did, not in anger, but understanding those in control were and remain beyond my influence or help; I wish better for them, but leave them in the Hands of God, who can always do better than I can at guiding them. There is no good thing that I can do for Christian, Jew, or anyone else, that is in my power to do, that I would not do, Even if it means leaving them to find their own way.
Roger woodhouse says
Anyone here remember who the ArchBishop of Canterbury is and just what his is purpose?
mortimer says
Frank, Muslims cannot deny the existence of the ESSENTIAL DOCTRINE of AL WALAA WAL BARAA which is the MOTIVE of Islam.
That central ‘motive’ of Islam is that ALLAH HATE THE KAFIR and commands Muslims that they must HATE THE KAFIR TOO.
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, I have absolutely no reason or argument to disagree with your statement.
The Rabbi, whom I learned from starting in 1993 until he retired in 2014 had been completely brainwashed in rabbinical school on the “religion of peace” dogma and adamantly refused to examine the belief, totally contrary to the Jewish teaching to ask EVERY question repeatedly. He became furious when I asked him to review several books with information he obviously did not want to see. I have dealt with many people who have issues; but none as disappointing as an otherwise laudable and honorable friend as this. I could not attend his retirement party.
As you have your themes I have mine, including Viktor Frankl’s “delusion of reprieve” where people in deadly circumstances make up rescue fantasy to survive. I never cease to be both amazed and disappointed that in Frankl’s time, there was no real alternative if one wished to endure in the death camps. Now there are, if one is willing to admit the impending danger and look for ways to deal with it other than “Convert, Submit or Die.” My Honored Rabbi lived with the lie that life under islam was not so bad for Jews a long time ago, and refused to even think about the present. He is not alone.
Muslims are not the only subjects for potential deprogramming.
Indiana Tom says
This is the real problem; and everyone goes right along with it.
Adam says
I guess everyone missed it, the article says Church of England.
What would the Church of England know of religion? It gave up on the Christ Jesus long ago.
He did not say, “you reap what you sow”. simply to hear himself speak.
gravenimage says
Someone who hates the Church of England, but seems fine with creeping Shari’ah. That says it all…
loki says
If the dean recited a christian prayer in any mosque in Britain, he would have been beheaded on the spot.
Anjuli Pandavar says
loki, and the dhimmified public would have understood “the hurt caused to Muslims” and justified the beheading as an understandable reaction to centuries of colonialism.
infidel says
NEW SUGGESTED IMMIGRATION RULES TO FREE SOCIETIES: I HUMBLY request readers of JW and also Robert to consider these suggestions as this may a go a very long way in the survival of native cultures. This suggestion is a PROMOTION/DEMOTION system…
1> When a refugee/ immigrant enters a western govt (EVEN LEGALLY), there should be 5 yr wait for Permanent Residence… Any crime and U are out…
2> Once the refugee/immigrant becomes a PR, there must be another 5 yr wait (could be as high as 10 yrs) to become citizen. Any crime and U get demoted back to Ur refugee status and any more crime, U R OUT.
3> Once the refugee/immigrant becomes a citizen, there should be another 5 yr wait for VOTING RIGHTS,.. This will prevent sleazy politicians in exploiting these fellows as their vote banks and overlooking immigrant crimes. Any crime at this stage, U lose Ur citizenship and get demoted to PR status with another 5 yr wait to reclaim citizenship.
4> Once the refugee/immigrant citizen becomes eligible to vote, there must be another 5 yrs for this same citizen to be eligible to run for elected office, Any crime at this point, the immigrant loses his voting rights and gets demoted to a citizen without voting rights and another 5 yrs of wait must be done.
5> Any crime by those refugee/immigrants who now are eligible for running for elected office stand to lose those rights and can only vote if convicted…
6> The second and third gen children of these refugee/immigrant citizens need to wait till they are 18 before they get citizenship. Until that time, they can only be PRs….Any juvenile crime and their wait period for citizenship is prolonged considerably.
7> The second and third gen children of these refugee/immigrants need to wait another crime free 3 yrs for their rights to vote and another 3 yrs for standing for elections. Any crime in these waiting periods means automatic demotion.
I’m POSITIVE that this 7 point system will go a long way in the survival of the the native culture and way of life without being disrupted by feral intolerant cultures like Islam.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Infidel, it’s important to give these issues serious thought, as you have done, and to invite debate on them. I would like to respond by mentioning what strikes me as three weaknesses in your proposal: the first is the focus on crime. Yes, indeed, it would go a long way, as you say, but it is also easy to point out that much worse crimes by members of the “native culture” do not threaten the survival of that culture. The second weakness is not addressing the uneven application of the law. For example, everyone is subject to the notion of so-called “hate speech”, a punishable offence, except Muslims, who are free to publicly recite the Qur’an, the ultimate compendium of “hate speech”, if that’s a crime. Or worse, the law stepping back and ceding territory to a completely different value and penal system. For example, in the “native culture’s” law, it is a crime murder, but you migrant is Muslim and has murdered his wayward daughter. Law in the ceded territories says that’s just fine. Finally, no crime is necessary for threatening a culture. It is not a crime to wear religiously distinctive clothing or grow religiously distinctive features (although, thankfully, there is some movement against this). It is not a crime to run a madrassa, where most of the original hardwiring for later weaponisation is done. It is not a crime to segregate men and women, It is not a crime to self-ghettoise. It is not a crime to mislead or lie about your intentions, etc., etc.
What you’re doing is laudable, and to take this further, I’d say there would have to be much greater specificity. You may know that when you apply for a visa to enter a country, you are often asked a series of questions that will have a bearing on whether you are admitted or not. Such questions may include things like: “Have you ever been a member of a terrorist organisation?”, “Have you ever been a party to genocide?”, “Have you ever been convicted for drug-dealing?” etc. It is not beyond the wit of law drafting to fashion a list of questions based directly on what the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira and The Reliance of the Traveller permit or command that are obvious crimes in civilised legal systems. For example: “Do you believe that it is legal to beat your wife?” “Do you believe a man is entitled to rape a woman who is not fully covered?” “Do you believe a woman’s testimony in court to be worth half of that of a man?” “Do you believe that anyone who leaves any particular religion should be killed?” etc. And at the end of a very long list of all these crimes, ask the question,”Please state your religion?”
Finally, warn that if it is later found that they have answered untruthfully to any of these questions, they will be immediately deported *regardless of whether they will be imperilled in their home country*, so the score is clear right up front (definitely no prison sentence), regardless of their status at the time their perjury is exposed. No one is under any pressure to commit any of the crimes Islam exhorts them to commit. If they still do so after signing their entry declaration, then they have made a wilful choice in full knowledge of the outcome.
Of course, if the immigration authorities at point of entry suspect perjury, the applicant can be detained and subjected to heightened scrutiny, after which entry is either denied, or they are admitted under very strict conditions or the are simply admitted. In other words, front-end load the system so risk is kept away from the innocent public who will be the victims of mistakes made at the immigration gate.
infidel says
Anjuli.. thanks for Ur detailed response. U say that front-end load the system and I agree. But I also would like to keep what I proposed and do the bank-end load too… With Muslims, one can never taken even the slightest of chance, lest U end up ceding Ur land and culture and hard won freedom. These Trojans are always looking for the slightest of openings..
I still believe Anjali, that there should be a LONG waiting period for new immigrant citizens for getting the voting card as well as running for office to prevent two things:
1> Unscrupulous LEFT politicians in using these new immigrants as their vote-blocs by promising them to incessantly apologize and even look the other way when these immigrants indulge in activities against the state.
2> To prevent Trojan elements from worming their way DEEP into the host society and poisonously affecting and skewing the politics of the host nation (which Muslims do)
IMHO, the RIGHT TO VOTE and RUN for office MUST BE EARNED over and above being the citizen of the land.
Anjuli Pandavar says
Sorry I’m only getting back to this now, Infidel.
Yes, I agree with you. I would be tougher on one point, though: “there should be a LONG waiting period for new immigrant citizens for getting the voting card as well as running for office” I would say “LIFE-LONG”.
How can anyone be given voting rights, let alone the opportunity to run for public office, if the support a long list of the most gross felonies, including genocide and sedition? It’s insane. As long as they are Muslims, they have, by definition, disqualified themselves.
Deborah says
In these texts, I‘ve learned an immense amount about Islam, and the suicidal tendencies of Western society/religion to ‘give in’ to It. Are these ‘dangerous’times?! Is Western society even sturdy, strong and (more than) resolute enough?! As strong as our grandparents’ generation?! The Greatest Generation?! The Generation who Worked their way out of the Great Depression, Went to War/Beat Evil on Two Fronts and went back home to raise families?! Are We the People, even Worthy?! Let us see then, if We truly are!
Ezra Adamson says
There is a perfectly rational explanation for all these tribulations: we as a people, culture and society have turned away from our first love, Jesus Christ. Need I say more?
Jayell says
“The call to prayer was part of Welsh composer Karl Jenkins’ The Armed Man – an anti-war Mass – organised by Blackburn Music Society…..The dean only realised that the Muslim call to prayer was in the piece shortly before it began and didn’t want to cause upset by removing it……..”
Cause upset to whom, exactly? Didn’t it strike this PC idiot that it might cause more upset by leaving it in? But this is what we should expect in the Islamic Republic of Calderdale (i.e., all that region of the Penines inlcuding Blackburn and Rochdale, etc), where the Pakistani muslims moved in to take up jobs in the textile mills – until the mills closed down, and the muslims found it was easier to keep the benefit offices busy rather than moving back to Pakistan, and they could get a bit of entertainment and extra cash selling drugs and raping underage English girls.
gravenimage says
This stupid piece does indeed include the Islamic call to prayer.
dan christensen says
You wonder whether the imam at the particular occasion prayed for Allah’s blessings upon the christian congregation:-(
The cathedral is now a desecrated christian church and islamic consecrated. Maybe the first church in the UK converted to mosque, on the “Via Dolorosa” from democracy to the UKaliphate.
R Russell says
I don’t want any blessings from the God of Islam, Allah,. Such ‘blessings’ are curses and I stand against them in the Name of Jesus, YHWH God.
Ray says
Possible cure? First. Sprinkle a vial of holy water from, say, Westminster Abbey, or St. Pauls Cathedral, administered by a Bishop, or top honcho in the Church of England.
Plus, exorcism might help in removing the satanic Islamic detritus. Remember, it was the Muslum Brotherhood who coined the word, ‘Islamophobia’ to prevent normal people – us, from criticism of Islam, or its Muslim cockroaches. Don’t be fooled, or silenced by that propaganda. The other word used by these evil twits is ‘bigot’ to instantly silence and criticism. Go to jihadwatch.org, for more gen and eye-popping facts. Of course, having one of that kiddie fiddling, long white dress wearing poofs in the cathedral might also require a fumigator to clean up the building.
Telh says
God has indeed left the Anglican Church.
BC says
As far as I know there is never any outreach from Muslim to Christians as the former think themselves superior to the latter. Christian clerics are not invited to preach in Muslim services so why are Muslim invited into Christian ones?
The interfaith business is like two fighters going into the ring. The Christian is saying I am going to shake hands with the Muslim and I hope we can be good mates. The Muslim is saying I am going to wipe the floor with this guy, I am going to destroy him.
Eur says
There is not reciprocity. Islam is supremacist.
Michael Copeland says
“The second movement, which is sometimes omitted, is a traditional Muslim adhan recited in Arabic.”
The “traditional Muslim adhan” is not a work by the composer, and does not involve the orchestra.
This part should ALWAYS be omitted when the concert is being given in a church.
Tom says
“Anyone who puts the human rights of terrorists before the right to life of our children has no place in power.” Katie Hopkins.
The Anglican Church of England has lost its way and is putting the feelings and rights of Islam and Muslims before the human rights of children, who are being raped and abused by Muslim gangs that prey on vulnerable children.
Allowing this call to prayer to go ahead in a Cathedral is yet one more sign of the British clergy’s total capitulation to Islam.
The clergyman who allowed this to continue, even though he realized what it was, should not only be fired, he should be tarred and feathered and sent into exile.
Angemon says
Sure – add the call to prayer of he most warmongering religion to an “anti-war Mass”. Makes perfect sense?…
Translation: he didn’t want to be called “islamophobe”.
Hal says
if the Dean made a genuine mistake and is repentant he should be forgiven, but he should make it abso;utely clear that it will never happen again/
SamB says
Look at it the other way, if this was a Bishop in a Mosque professing Jesus a billion Muslims would have been rioting, destroying cities and lives( refer to Charlie Hebdo). We have to pat ourselves on the back and marvel how constrained we were. Christianity has moved on from the Middle-Ages otherwise the imam would have burnt at the stake by now. This incident serves as a very important statement to the enemies of Christianity- the press and governments\MP’s senators. supportive of Islam. While we can still be hypocritical we are all changed people; we can still have the perspective of others without maiming them.