David Wood and I discuss the shameful recent handling of the Asia Bibi blasphemy case in Pakistan.
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Kathleen Wallacesays
A lot of non-Muslims believe what Muslims say because they just can’t believe that Islam is not like other religions. You can tell them the truth about Islam but they just don’t believe you.
eduardo odraudesays
That’s kind of how it was with communism. A surprisingly large number thought maybe it wasn’t that bad. If you tried to explain that there was no freedom in the Soviet Union, such people (usually Democrats) would say things like, “well, that only affects a few intellectuals, the average Soviet citizen doesn’t care,” or “if the people in Russia didn’t want communism, they would change it,” and statements of that kind. Well, yes, they managed to change it, after 70 years or so of catastrophe.
A lot of people just take freedom for granted. So they are not vigilant about it. And because they are not vigilant, they never get to the point of really being able to imagine that many other nations have no freedom and have to live differently than we in the US do. So when you try to point out threats to freedom, many people just ignore and dismiss you. We just have to keep self-educating and keep trying to educate others. The Citizen Warrior website has a book — Getting Through — on methods of persuading and warning people about the totalitarianism of Islam. What’s needed isn’t just facts, but also various kinds of tact and psychology.
eduardo odraudesays
Excellent dialogue between Robert Spencer and David Wood.
gravenimagesays
+1
gravenimagesays
Video: David Wood and Robert Spencer on Asia Bibi vs. Sharia
…………………
I hope we are able to get her and her family out of Pakistan.
FYIsays
The prophet’s recommended medicinal health tonic..?
Camel wee.
“The climate of Medina did not suit them,so the prophet ordered them to go to the herd of camels and ordered them to drink their milk and URINE”
Sahih bukhari 8:82:794
Sahih muslim 16:4130
Kesslersays
Brilliant discussion, thank you!!!!
Robert, I miss watching you debate the opposition – are you no longer persuing this or is nobody willing to debate you anymore?
What a bunch of wusses. If these Muslim apologists actually had any legitimate points to make, they would be thrilled at the chance to put an “Islamophobe” in his place.
Of course, these idiots got tired of Robert Spencer mopping the floor with them.
underbed catsays
The sharia resistance”.( mob rule) this is awful…..she has suffered enough..Islam is not tolerant this has to be known.
The resistance is orchestrated, ignorant and deadly. Was Paddock resistance following sharia , were the leftist calling for it, who was arrested, detained and recently nervously interviewed.
underbed catsays
Asia Bibi is beautiful….and very brave….I don’t know how anyone survives living under sharia law.
gravenimagesays
Good news!
“Pakistan: Asia Bibi, Christian woman acquitted of blasphemy, flown out of the country”
And now Pakistan is denying she has been allowed to leave…
Save Europesays
I would be so happy if every Pakistani Muslim left the UK. They have brought no positive attributes here.
BCsays
This is out of date as she now is being allowed to leave with her family according to recent reports. Praying in any case is a complete waste of time as ‘god’ even if he existed is clearly, as 2000 years have shown, not in any way interested in what goes on with humanity. Christianity is not the answer either, it is no use saying “Jesus said this or that” as nobody knows what he said . We are told he said many things but only by very unreliable sources. What is needed in the 21st century is to put away primitive myths and legends of every kind
Jeansays
BC.
Exactly how will you teach anyone ethics without the use of myths?
WPMsays
to BC
So by your logic she Bibi should have renounce her Christianity and would be left alone by the Moslems in her Moslem country that is your solution ? Its all out of date anyway all people should renounce their faiths ,they are all the same right, Islam ,Christianity , Jewism . Of all the major faiths only Islam is out murdering people to this very day as its main mission statement to convert and terrorist people to follow Sharia law which makes non-believers even atheist like you to have a choice be murdered , convert or be a slave under Sharia law. Christianity does not have any Sharia type law on its books for non-believers ,nether does Jewism .You can think praying is a waste of time, but putting Christianity, Jewism ,in the same basket as Islam is wrong .Just saying people should reject their faith and all problems would go away is wrong. Communism believes in no God (the state is their god} , Nazism believes in no real God (the Nazi god is race base nationhood worship} both these systems kill millions in the 20th century.
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Kathleen Wallace says
A lot of non-Muslims believe what Muslims say because they just can’t believe that Islam is not like other religions. You can tell them the truth about Islam but they just don’t believe you.
eduardo odraude says
That’s kind of how it was with communism. A surprisingly large number thought maybe it wasn’t that bad. If you tried to explain that there was no freedom in the Soviet Union, such people (usually Democrats) would say things like, “well, that only affects a few intellectuals, the average Soviet citizen doesn’t care,” or “if the people in Russia didn’t want communism, they would change it,” and statements of that kind. Well, yes, they managed to change it, after 70 years or so of catastrophe.
A lot of people just take freedom for granted. So they are not vigilant about it. And because they are not vigilant, they never get to the point of really being able to imagine that many other nations have no freedom and have to live differently than we in the US do. So when you try to point out threats to freedom, many people just ignore and dismiss you. We just have to keep self-educating and keep trying to educate others. The Citizen Warrior website has a book — Getting Through — on methods of persuading and warning people about the totalitarianism of Islam. What’s needed isn’t just facts, but also various kinds of tact and psychology.
eduardo odraude says
Excellent dialogue between Robert Spencer and David Wood.
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
Video: David Wood and Robert Spencer on Asia Bibi vs. Sharia
…………………
I hope we are able to get her and her family out of Pakistan.
FYI says
The prophet’s recommended medicinal health tonic..?
Camel wee.
“The climate of Medina did not suit them,so the prophet ordered them to go to the herd of camels and ordered them to drink their milk and URINE”
Sahih bukhari 8:82:794
Sahih muslim 16:4130
Kessler says
Brilliant discussion, thank you!!!!
Robert, I miss watching you debate the opposition – are you no longer persuing this or is nobody willing to debate you anymore?
Robert Spencer says
No one has been willing for quite a long time.
vlad says
One cannot dispute the TRUTH.
gravenimage says
What a bunch of wusses. If these Muslim apologists actually had any legitimate points to make, they would be thrilled at the chance to put an “Islamophobe” in his place.
Of course, these idiots got tired of Robert Spencer mopping the floor with them.
underbed cat says
The sharia resistance”.( mob rule) this is awful…..she has suffered enough..Islam is not tolerant this has to be known.
The resistance is orchestrated, ignorant and deadly. Was Paddock resistance following sharia , were the leftist calling for it, who was arrested, detained and recently nervously interviewed.
underbed cat says
Asia Bibi is beautiful….and very brave….I don’t know how anyone survives living under sharia law.
gravenimage says
Good news!
“Pakistan: Asia Bibi, Christian woman acquitted of blasphemy, flown out of the country”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/pakistan-asia-bibi-christian-woman-acquitted-of-blasphemy-flown-out-of-the-country
gravenimage says
And now Pakistan is denying she has been allowed to leave…
Save Europe says
I would be so happy if every Pakistani Muslim left the UK. They have brought no positive attributes here.
BC says
This is out of date as she now is being allowed to leave with her family according to recent reports. Praying in any case is a complete waste of time as ‘god’ even if he existed is clearly, as 2000 years have shown, not in any way interested in what goes on with humanity. Christianity is not the answer either, it is no use saying “Jesus said this or that” as nobody knows what he said . We are told he said many things but only by very unreliable sources. What is needed in the 21st century is to put away primitive myths and legends of every kind
Jean says
BC.
Exactly how will you teach anyone ethics without the use of myths?
WPM says
to BC
So by your logic she Bibi should have renounce her Christianity and would be left alone by the Moslems in her Moslem country that is your solution ? Its all out of date anyway all people should renounce their faiths ,they are all the same right, Islam ,Christianity , Jewism . Of all the major faiths only Islam is out murdering people to this very day as its main mission statement to convert and terrorist people to follow Sharia law which makes non-believers even atheist like you to have a choice be murdered , convert or be a slave under Sharia law. Christianity does not have any Sharia type law on its books for non-believers ,nether does Jewism .You can think praying is a waste of time, but putting Christianity, Jewism ,in the same basket as Islam is wrong .Just saying people should reject their faith and all problems would go away is wrong. Communism believes in no God (the state is their god} , Nazism believes in no real God (the Nazi god is race base nationhood worship} both these systems kill millions in the 20th century.