Mustapha Kara-Ali is basing his claim to be above Australian law on Australian law: “The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission (ACNC) Act 2012 stipulates that when it is carrying out religious activities that are related to the practice, study, teaching or propagation of its religious beliefs, or other activities ancillary to them … Diwan Al Dawla, as a basic religious charity is not required to comply with Australian laws.”
The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission (ACNC) refutes his claim, but in any case it isn’t surprising that Kara-Ali would make the attempt. The Qur’an tells Muslims: “You are the best nation produced for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong” (3:110), and says that unbelievers are “the most vile of created beings” (98:6). So why should one of the best of people have to submit to the laws of the most vile of created beings? Note also that he calls Australian officials “monkeys,” an epithet given to the disobedient Jews in the Qur’an (7:166).
“EXCLUSIVE: Still thumbing their noses at the law: Muslim brothers haven’t demolished their illegal religious hideaway months after being ordered to tear it down,” by Stephen Gibbs, Daily Mail Australia, December 3, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Two Muslim brothers ordered to demolish an illegal religious compound north of Sydney have done almost nothing to abide by court orders made three months ago.
Mustapha and Diaa Kara-Ali were told to stop all work on the bushland hideaway at Colo in the Hawkesbury region but instead erected more buildings on the site.
On August 27 the Land and Environment Court ordered the pair to demolish and remove sheds, slabs, fences and every other structure they had illegally built on the property within 28 days.
Justice Terry Sheahan’s orders were ignored and the brothers now face jail after each pleaded guilty to four counts of contempt.
Photographs taken last Friday compared with pictures taken in August show the Kara-Ali brothers continued to undertake work at the Putty Road site after the orders were made….
Last month a lawyer for the brothers said they had removed religious signage from the property as well as flags and flagpoles. Little else seems to have been done to comply with Justice Sheahan’s orders….
The Kara-Ali brothers had previously said they would not obey Australia law and indicated they would refuse to abide by any court rulings over their religious retreat.
They refused to acknowledge legal action brought by Hawkesbury City Council and for months ignored all orders of the Land and Environment Court.
Mustapha Kara-Ali had told Daily Mail Australia he would refuse council officers access to the land, stating they were ‘Cruasaders’ and an affront to Islam.
He and Diaa refused to attend the court because they did not recognise its authority.
The brothers maintained their resolve after Justice Sheahan found they had undertaken land clearing and earthworks in breach of planning laws and had built structures without approval.
‘Because of the religious symbolism of the court, that contradicts with my religion,’ Mustapha Kara-Ali said. ‘For my religion to be free I can’t be dictated to by another religion.’…
The Kara-Alis were building the retreat under the auspices of the Diwan Al Dawla Islamic guild, which bought the property for $670,000 in May last year….
The council launched civil action against the brothers alleging they had carried out illegal land clearing and earthworks and built gates, fences and driveways without approval.
The brothers agreed they had not sought approval for the work and said they had no intention of doing so because they did not recognise Australian law.
‘My main issue is the interference between the secular and the religious,’ Mustapha Kara-Ali said.
‘What we are saying in a nutshell is the country of Australia is entrenched in secular symbolism and religious symbolism that stretches back to the time of the Crusades.
‘This means that this government is not secular. It is religious because it carries these symbols.
‘And we refuse for pagan symbols such as crosses to be on top of our lives.
‘Remove these religious symbols and we can talk about secular government. But not now. For us, this is religious freedom.’
The imam said if government bodies tried to enforce their rules upon him he would resist. ‘I tell you what, people like us will say our God is supreme.’
Dr Kara-Ali believed his guild members were being treated as ‘violent ragheads that know nothing about the world.’
‘We believe in our cause. We believe we are pioneers of religious freedom in this country.
‘It is our way to disconnect. We want to disconnect. We want to be left alone.’
The court heard the conflict turned ugly in July when three council officers attended the property to serve papers on the Kara-Ali brothers. A dashcam video tendered to the court showed the pair confront the officers.
‘Both men were repeatedly yelling obscenities from the other side of the gate, calling out, “You dogs, I step on your cross”, one of the council officers alleged.
However, Dr Kara-Ali said he and his brother were intimidated by the actions of the ‘violent monkeys’ and anyone could enter the site as long as they did not do so under a cross.
Dr Kara-Ali wrote to Hawkesbury City Council in March explaining another reason why he believed government had no authority over his group.
‘The Colo Wilderness site is a religious site that is owned by the members of Diwan Al Dawla for the carrying out of religious activities of devotion, self-discipline, ritual baptism, inter-community prayers, contemplation and religious study, he wrote.
‘The Land with its Colo River access serves as a reclusive place of worship.’
‘Members of Diwan al Dawla… live as a religious guild separated from secular lifetsyles to pursue a religious mode of worship to and an ascetic lifestyle under an oath of self-sacrifice and dedication to the purpose of Diwan Al Dawla.’
Dr Kara-Ali contended Hawkesbury City Council had no power to tell Diwan Al Dawla what to do because it is a ‘basic religious charity’ registered with the Australian Charities and Not-for profits Commission (ACNC).
‘Charities who meet the definition of Basic Religious Charity do not have to submit annual financial reports, and they do not have to comply with the ACNC governance standards which include… “Compliance with Australian laws”,’ Dr Kara-Ali wrote.
According to the imam, that also put his guild above the law….
pfwag says
Coming to America…
Elisha says
“And we refuse for pagan symbols such as crosses to be on top of our lives.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Pagan islam – the Black Stone:
And when the city clerk had quieted the crowd, he said: “Men of Ephesus, what man is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is temple guardian of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Zeus? – Acts 19:35
muslims are PAGANS:
Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, “Rise up yourself, and fall on us; for as the man, so is his strength.” So Gideon arose and killed Zebah and Zalmunna, and took the CRESCENT ORNAMENTS which were on their camels’ necks. – Judges 8:21
In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, headbands, CRESCENT ORNAMENTS – Isaiah 3:18
Then He brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house. And behold, at the entrance to the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men WITH THEIR BACK TO THE TEMPLE of the LORD and THEIR FACES TOWARDS THE EAST; and they were PROSTRATING THEMSELVES EASTWARD TOWARD THE SUN. – Ezekiel 8:16
“You dogs, I step on your cross”
Why? Sahih Bukhari 73.224 – Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (King of kings).”
Here’s why allah is SO SCARED:
These kings have one purpose: to yield their power and authority to the beast. They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones. – Revelation 17:13-14
He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and His name is The Word of God. The armies of heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and pure, follow Him on white horses. And from His mouth proceeds a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God, the Almighty. And He has a name written on His robe and on His thigh: King of kings and Lord of lords. – Revelation 19:13-17
Islam will be destroyed:
Deal with them as with Midian,
As with Sisera,
As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon,
Who perished at En Dor,
Who became as refuse on the earth.
Make their nobles like Oreb and like Zeeb,
Yes, all their princes like ZEBAH AND ZALMUNNA,
Who said, “Let us take for ourselves
The pastures of God for a possession.” – Psalm 83:9-12
The Lord ALSO WILL ROAR FROM ZION,
And utter His voice from Jerusalem;
The heavens and earth will shake;
But the Lord will be a shelter for His people,
And the strength of the children of Israel.
“So you shall know that I am the Lord your God,
Dwelling in Zion My holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem shall be holy,
And no aliens shall ever pass through her again.” – Joel 3:16-17
“The Lord will SAVE the tents of JUDAH first, so that THE GLORY OF THE HOUSE OF DAVID and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. It shall be in that day that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM. And I WILL POUR ON THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND on the inhabitants of JERUSALEM THE SPIRIT OF GRACE and supplication; THEN THEY WILL LOOK ON ME WHOM THEY PIERCED. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.” – Zechariah 12:7-10
So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH , THE ROOT OF DAVID, HAS PREVAILED to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.” – Revelation 5:4-5
PRAISE THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!
balam says
May the Lord God bless you, Elisha for this heart warming message.Thanks.
Jap says
OK, fact check time. The term PAGAN is from the romans and simply means “NO RELIGION”.
Islam is not Pagan.
It has similarities to Christianity in that it is violent, evil,bent on world domination and an abomination.
How do I know this?
Because I am Pagan and know that both Islam and Christianity have been trying for the last 2000 years to wipe us out. Nice try,,sorry,,failed! we are still here and waiting for you knuckle heads to wipe each other out.
dunroamin says
Coming FROM America. I read of a similar case in the US where a Muslim successfully turned a case of planning regulations into one of discrimination. Result was, he got to keep his illegal mosque AND won compensation.
J D S says
Yes as usual Muslims use our laws against us ..and the stupidness in government seems not to see what’s staring them in the face and kicking them in their butts.
Leon Degney says
Yes, it is unbelievable, yet they still insist on letting them in.
mortimer says
Another blond Anglo-Celtic Australian jihadist. My, my… anyone who criticizes an ANGLO-CELTIC JIHADIST must be a RACIST !
Former ethnic Irishwoman Sinead O’Connor says she is NO LONGER ‘WHITE’, so to criticize JIHADIST Sinead O’Connor is apparently ‘racist’.
I keep forgetting what is the actual ‘RACE’ in Islam … I thought Mohammed was a ‘WHITE MAN’… noticeably whiter than other Arabs… according to about 31 different HADITHS.
Andy says
WINTER IS COMING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SovZ_bD3qYc
Andy says
BRUTAL ATTACK Man punches his partner in the face and tells cops ‘it’s part of my culture to hit women’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7901575/man-hit-wife-part-of-his-culture-kirklees-brighouse/
Andy says
UKIP Leader Gerard Batten MEP and the UKIP Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvUmEgK3w8g
Angry Aussie says
Who is the blonde Anglo Celtic jihadist in this story? Both of these brothers are they typical sponges on welfare and government grants that we see here. The overnight imam, with his jihadi camp setup, Dr Kara-Ali, is an ex government advisor. He had no beard back then.
Self appointed, arrogant, supremacist, but certainly no Ango-Celtic.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/mustapha_kara-ali/home
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/act/muslim-youth-aid-program-offers-help-to-government-20140927-10mxqx.html
mortimer says
AA, just look at the two angry werewolves in the picture at top. Who are they?
Peggy says
You’re about to get angrier. When Shorten wins next year he’ll make sure that the council is put in it’s place and this “religious” compound will be left alone.
This is just the beginning of a military fort but who’s complaining?
I am filled with dread of the next election. Liberals aren’t much better but under Morrison we just might have a chance fighting this Cancer. Shorten is going to finish us off. I really believe that.
There will be many more “religious compounds” springing up.
gravenimage says
I can’t find any information on whether these tools are converts to Islam or not–but these names are not at all typical of those of converts.
As for their looks, it is possible that they are Australian converts, but they are *certainly* not blonds.
Here are some images of them:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Mustapha+and+Diaa+Kara-Ali&rlz=1C1TSND_enUS657US657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiS2q2uloXfAhUJS60KHTZwCXAQ_AUIDigB&biw=780&bih=358
Westman says
Australia’s Waco version 2.0 is in the crystal ball.
John says
You said it, Bigoted Barbaric SAVAGES and Nothing Else .
mortimer says
Quote: “Dr Kara-Ali contended Hawkesbury City Council had no power to tell Diwan Al Dawla what to do because it is a ‘basic religious charity’ …”
“The Reliance of the Traveler, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law” has a whole section devoted to the rules of zakat (ISLAMIC CHARITY), including “THE EIGHT CATEGORIES OF RECIPIENTS.” On page 272, section h8.17, one category is labeled:
“THOSE FIGHTING FOR ALLAH”
“The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster (O: but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration). They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses (O: for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. Though nothing has been mentioned here of the expense involved in supporting such people’s families during this period, it seems clear that they should also be given it).
Anjuli Pandavar says
This happened and will continue to happen, because you did not:
1. Send in a serious and highly-aggressive armed force
2. Bulldoze all the structures flat
3. Beat the perpetrators to the ground (with cameras rolling)
4. Smash their faces into the ground while tying their hands behind their backs
5. Bound them into vehicles
6. Take them to a military base
7. Get all the jihad plans and names out of them (with cameras rolling)
8. Make follow-up arrests
9. Repeat 7 and 8 as many times as necessary
8. Put them all on an airforce plane and deport them (with cameras rolling)
9. Release the arrest video and let that sink in
10. Release the interrogation video and let that sink in
11. Release the deportation video and let that sink in
12. Until you do these things, forget about getting any respect out of them. Their strategy is to wear you down to breaking point. For as long as you recoil from doing the above, they will be encouraged by what they perceive as your pathetic weakness. Be warned that it will get much worse.
Guy Forester says
Of course, if this was a group of ultraorthodox Jewish settlers, or a rather conservative evangelical Christian group, I suspect that most of the above would have occurred by now.
infidel says
BRILLIANT ANJULI… These violent creatures are just testing the waters to see how far they can stretch it and get away …
Frank Anderson says
Most of the people who write here share the experience that they are not believed, and are attacked for speaking the truth. The only way for dhimmis, collaborators, Holocaust deniers and just plain hard-headed ignorant people who refuse to learn, is to see for themselves the defiance of their laws in favor of Islamic law (Sharia) on a routine basis. This fight could be a good education for some.
I have proposed here a number of times that the First Holocaust Deniers were the Jews who failed to see what Hitler wrote, spoke and did from his very first public speech in August 1920 on to communicate his hatred of Jews. Half of Germany’s Jews got the message and tried to get out. The other half did not and paid, either through collaboration and military service, or death camps. The Koran and associated writings have proclaimed the murderous hatred of Jews for 1400 years and are still ignored by many..
Guy Forester says
Unfortunately, from what I have read, when the average Jewish person went to those so called leaders that claimed to represent the interests of the Jewish populace, they got soothing but worthless words of advice. The leadership tended to placate the Jews with the advice that if they just went along, did not protest, and followed the laws, Mr. Hitler would leave them alone.
Of course, it did not help when we had anti-Semitic political hacks placed in key government posts by the likes of FDR. He had made lots of promises to the Jewish leaders in the US in return for their votes. That turned out really well, didn’t it?
Frank Anderson says
G.F. I have been reading about Germany, particularly between WWI and II, for over 50 years. I have attended literally dozens of Holocaust events and recorded dozens of speakers who survived. My impression from all I gather is that nobody bothered with polite conversation in response to criminal complaints, almost from the first collection of Storm Troopers (S.A.). The Nazi assumed connection between Judaism and Communism had some arguable basis in fact (5 of the 7 leaders of the Communist Red Republic in 1919 Munich were Jewish). Based on what the Communists had done and WERE STILL DOING in Russia, and the reasonable conclusion they planned the same for Germany, there was not a lot of effort to separate “wheat from chaff”. Add to that local traditions of anti-Semitism, I don’t think any law enforcement officer, from bottom to top, would get particularly excited about crimes against Jews.
You might get better information from Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and the BBC program available on DVD The Nazis; A Warning from History. From there you can probably find hundreds if not thousands of history books, and dozens of programs on history channels to help see for yourself.
Ray Jarman says
Frank, you and GF may wish to view a documentary that Bill Moyers produced and narrated as part of his “Moyers’ Report” on PBS. The documentary was exceptionally honest and coming from a very liberal person, he did not provide FDR with cover for his anti-Semitism. He showed the records that between 1936 and 1946, only one thousand Jews were permitted asylum and even then the Jews were housed in a concentration camp type facility in up state New York. To this day I will never understand why the Jewish people in America and even Europe tend to be far left when one of the tenants of the far left is anti-Semitism. From Hitler to Corbyn the left have always been anti-Semitic.
gravenimage says
Frank, you are right that many Jews in Hitler’s Germany sadly were slow to see the danger, and some *never* did until it was too late–but to call them “Holocaust deniers” just as though they were Muslims or antisemitic white supremacists trying to rewrite history is, I believe, unfair.
Their historical view–and, more importantly, *motive*–was very different.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I have spent about 20 years in person in weekly services and every event conducted, with precious few exceptions, to form my opinions. I have heard and recorded survivors who tell about their families and the denial of reality that was going on during the first Holocaust. I have many of those events’ recordings saved on my computer. The present denial of muslim intentions is no different from the denial of Hitler’s intentions, with the exception that the slaughter intended and planned for now has happened before. “Those who cannot learn from the lessons of the past. . .” Jorge Santayana, The Life of Reason (1905). The Holocaust was being denied before it happened the first time because it could not be imagined. Now the second requires no imagination; only remembering how it happened and what it cost.
gravenimage says
Frank, it is true that all too few learn from history–even recent history.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I take no pleasure in my observation. When a person not only lies to others, but also to himself, that is about as serious and meaningful a betrayal as possible. What others say after the fact cannot change the fact. Their opinions, insults and lies have no bearing on the denial that should not exist among those who are the present targets. So I think, after all my exposure to the question, that my OPINION is fair, based on FACT and focuses on trying to communicate the lesson to a population of people bent on not receiving their own lessons.
Why have annual memorial services when the lessons are actively betrayed? Six MILLION people were sacrificed to teach a lesson that appears to be lost in the US community. I do not want even ONE more person to be lost for failure to see what is intended and is actively being planned and executed. It won’t be Jews only, but all who are not muslim enough for the evil, mindless zombies wielding the knives.
gravenimage says
True, Frank–people say “Never Forget”, but many of them, sadly, have already forgotten–or ignored–too much.
Emilie Green says
They’re pulling the same stuff here. But we have precedent going back to the late 19th Century.
Making demands of non-Islamic believers IS INHERENTLY part and parcel of Islam. To that extent any statute imposing duties on Muslims which are not in compliance with the Shariah, here, Australian building codes, would deny Muslims, they claim, the ability to be “fully Muslim” as that phrase is interpreted by Muslims. That is, being fully Muslim means imposing Islam on non-Muslims, not the other way around. This task is to be done until the whole world is submits. This instruction is expressly stated, more than once, by Mohammed himself in his Quran. The waging of holy war is affirmatively imposed on all Muslims. [In Islam there are two jihads: the greater struggle (or jihad) deals with personal spirituality; the lesser struggle deals with advancing Islam throughout the world by any means necessary (including force). Strangely Muslims confuse their priorities, choosing a pre-occupation with the physical, lesser jihad. Perhaps if they chose to focus on personal, spiritual self-improvement then the world might be a more peaceful place.]
This then is the problem: separating Religious Islam from Political Islam. We in the West can easily do this as such separation is part of our culture. Muslims find such a separation incomprehensible, impossible. Without Shariah, Islam isn’t Islam is the claim of Muslims.
But that world view is not the world view of the West. Separating the political from the religious can be done. If our “leaders” will assert our culture. Snake handling, once an acceptable religious practice in some American areas, is now unlawful. A larger example can be found in the admittance of Utah as one of the United States. Its admittance was conditioned upon the then-allowed Mormon practice of polygamy being legislatively banned.
We have precedent to divorce practices from belief. It can be done despite the shrieking banshee stage acts of the left and Muslims alike.
b.a. freeman says
We have precedent to divorce practices from belief. It can be done …
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Emilie, it can *not* be done. in islam, allah speaks in the quran, and his word is unchanging, always meaning the same thing. there are more than 50 ayat in the quran in which allah tells muslims that muhammed is the perfect man, and that his actions should be emulated by all muslims. the ulema therefore called muhammed the perfect man (al-insan al-kamil) and the model of conduct (uswa hasana). muhammed murdered men and raped their wives (on the same day, calling it “marriage”), “married” a little girl, ordered assassinations, kidnapped people and made them slaves, sold slaves, gave slaves to his criminal associates as gifts, kept kidnapped women as sex slaves, encouraged his criminal associates to kidnap women and use them as sex slaves, attacked unarmed people after taking them by surprise, et al., et al., …
muslims could change islam by taking muhammed out of the religion, but that would make allah a fraud, because *allah* said that muslims should do what muhammed did. if the prophet and the god are gone, where is the religion? yes, U could change islam and make it socially acceptable, but it wouldn’t be islam, and few, if any, muslims would accept it. the evil is at the core of the cult. the only way to fight the cult is to isolate its victims (muslims) so that they cannot assault civilized people. i can’t see this happening, so i see the end of civilization. probably the best that can be hoped for is a leftist dystopia that totters and crashes after 100 years of mass murder, like the soviet union, with freedom once again emerging from the ashes. since pious muslims are such good murderers, however, i suspect that they will win the coming civil wars and greatly expand the land of the ummah. let us pray that freedom can find some safe place in the horrid world of that future.
ElderlyZionist says
“Dr Kara-Ali believed his guild members were being treated as ‘violent ragheads that know nothing about the world.’”
Seems appropriate.
b.a. freeman says
😀
+1
gravenimage says
*Spot on*.
No Muzzies Here says
Listen to them when they talk. They don’t respect the laws of constitutional republics because they think their set of laws is superior.
SB says
Raze Mecca! I heard a while back, that if Mecca was destroyed, Muslims would understand that Islam is a fraud, because Allah did not exist to protect Mecca. I welcome any correction.
gravenimage says
I don’t think is would make any difference in Muslims’ adherence to their foul creed. The black stone–the center of the Ka’aba that Muslims pray towards–has been stolen, severely damaged, and possibly destroyed several times, and this has never made any difference.
Keys says
Where do these brothers get the money for materials to put up buildings, fancy high stell fences, food, etc., etc. ?
Keys says
steel, not stell.
gravenimage says
Good question.
Keys says
If they don’t have to follow Australian laws, why should any Australian follow any law ?
Frank Anderson says
Keys, if regular Aussies don’t follow Aussie law, that is exactly what the muslims want: to teach that Sharia (Islamic law) is the only law that matters.
I would not be surprised if the answer to your first question is to look at the welfare benefits they are receiving. YOU may be paying for their fun. Does that make you happy?
Keys says
De-lighted !
Much like the USA.
Frank Anderson says
We agree,
A_M_Swallow says
I am sure that welfare benefits are supporting the men but who is paying for the buildings?
Is it Saudi Arabia? Iran? Or some other organisation?
gravenimage says
At least one of them is raking in money from academia:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/mustapha_kara-ali/home
A_M_Swallow says
Hmm. Even his Biomedical Engineering masters degree sounds like he wrote a fairy story.
Keys says
gravenimage, thanks for the link.
Interesting that “Mustapha completed his Master’s degree in Biomedical Engineering at the University of New South Wales (Honours class)” …..
The Aussies better act.
Imagine the dirty possibilities these guys may be up to considering his non-recognition of the government of the people + biomedical ENGINEERING degree + “professed” muslim + extreme measures to keep others out, buildings, + …..
How many red flags are needed ?
Peggy says
I suspect that none of them are digging into their own pockets for this.
Mosques have plenty of money to finance it all.
In Australia we have this “work for the dole” thing going, meaning if you’re unemployed you either have to take courses or work anywhere the government tells you for free.
It’s usually for some charity so I don’t understand how these men have time to devote to projects like this.
Are they not required to fulfil the obligations an average Australian is? They just get the dole and nothing is asked of them?
An unemployed person has to present evidence of actively looking for work too like a diary showing how many applications they sent off and how many interviews they had.
These guys won’t have time for this if the same rules applied to them.
gravenimage says
Good points, Keys and Peggy.
gravenimage says
Muslims want to impose brutal Shari’ah law on *all* Australians.
FYI says
“Our god is supreme” says the muslim imam.
allah..
Can only be spoken to in ONE language,Arabic
Thinks Christians are polytheists since he doesn’t understand Christian Theology
{…which means he does not know what is God’s Spirit of Wisdom/origin of prophecy}
Has a prophet who was a cross-dresser{bukhari 2442} with a winged flying horse buraq.
Does not get Irony{he curses the Jews..but Moses and Jesus are Jews}
Doesn’t understand Science{30+errors in the koran}:thinks the stars are “missiles for the devils”,the Moon is a lamp and ants and babies can speak.
Who attacks the Jews for their belief that “Ezra is the son of allah” koran 9:30 when there is no such belief in Judaism.
allah the muslim god:{NOT,NEVER, to be confused or associated with the Actual Biblical God}
allah..
The theologically,scientifically and lingustically challenged god of islam who thinks Jewish prophets are muslim,MISSED the 2 chief commandments{and disagrees with the Exodus 20 Ten},claims he personally wrote the Torah{Gospel} which no Jew{or Christian} believes,preaches endless violence and hatred for non -muslims.
allah:supreme?….I don’t think so..
Thank goodness the authorities are doing something about this,Soddy-funded,mosque-building extravaganza:the muslims see it as a great triumph in the West when they get their way.It has to be stopped.
No Fear says
“Our god (i.e. Allah) is supreme”. No he is a dullard. Read the Quran and Hadith for details.
“Allah knows best” ….umm, no he does not. Science, not Islam, is the best model we have at this time.
jayell says
This case doesn’t seem to be entirely unique. About 10 or so years ago some muslims bought a dairy in Windsor, UK, and renamed it the ‘Medina Dairy’. They didn’t seem to be doing much trade in halal milk, but car parking became a bit of a problem in the area (not known as a ‘muslim’ area), particularly when strange ‘marketting events’ took place on Fridays. So the locals became a bit irritated, complained to the authorities and started holding unfriendly meetings outside the property because they suspected that it was no longer being used for quite the commercial purpose for which it had been officially bought. The muslim ‘dairy workers’ (sic) rather took exception to this implied slur on their impeccable honesty and demonstrated their earnest desire to placate their somewhat disgruntled neighbours by emerging from the ‘dairy’ to enter into amicable discussions with the neighbours, wielding iron bars and other instruments of ‘meaningful negotiation’. I believe that the police were not partucularly impressed by the marketting strategy of this ‘dairy’ and neither was the planning department of the local authority. By rights this venture should have been closed down and its directors hauled to court to explain themselves, but I don’t know what happened in the end. Maybe I should google ‘mosques in Windsor’ – I’ll probably find that there’s a £multimillion eyesore with 200 foot minarets there now, no doubt funded by the Saudi government, and no-one dares complain in case they’re visited by someone from Riyadh with a bone-saw.
Guy Forester says
Don’t worry, the guy with the bone saw will only show up if the PTB and police don’t put the protestors away like they did to Tommy R. Why import your enforcer when the dhimmi police and kapos will do it for you?
No Fear says
Thanks for that one , Jayell. Good reading.
gravenimage says
No surprise, Jayell.
simpleton1 says
Oct 6, 2006
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1299/Riots-over-mosque-on-the-Queen-apos-s-doorstep
A major problem, gangs, beatings, police, intimidation, etc..
Not sure, but it seems that a mosque was developed in Windsor, but not sure of exact site, whether the original “dairy site”?
eduardo odraude says
The people behind this compound seem to think they can set up their own independent state, with its own laws, within Australia, and do so unilaterally. Actually, what is more remarkable is that they think they can not only do that, but that they can announce they are doing it and get away with it.
Guy Forester says
Funny thing, we had some wacky jihadis set up a makeshift compound in New Mexico. The authorities only acted when it was demonstrated that a severely disabled child died or was killed there. Since then, no word, nothing. The authorities got in there and bulldozed the place flat in no time. We had another compound raided in New York state. There was a felon there with firearms. Funny thing, no word, nothing since then. I wonder what is really in these places that they find. No public statement from the LEO’s, and no follow up questions by MSM. Do you think that Acosta clown would be interested?
tim gallagher says
I guess there are Muslims who do fit in with the laws of western, “infidel” countries, although I often think that they only do so until they can build up their Muslim numbers and then they will all start to push for barbaric Shariah law to be imposed on everyone. But, when it comes to the scumbags in this report, my attitude is, “Oh, so you don’t want to pay attention to our non-Muslim laws, then bugger off out of our non-Muslim country.” One thing is for sure, and I say this as someone who lives in in Australia, we never ever have the members, say, of our Buddhist communities saying that they don’t have to obey our laws. It is always Muslims. For example, several Muslims have refused to stand for the judge in court during criminal cases. I wouldn’t let Muslims into this or any other non-Muslim country. I just don’t believe that they are worth all this endless trouble that they bring and which no other group of migrants brings. Apparently, most people still do believe that Muslims are worthwhile migrants to have in spite of the trouble they bring. Those people must be able to see some benefit to the country that I can’t see. I think the negatives outweigh any positives that some Muslim migrants bring. I do think almost all Australians would like to see far lower numbers of Muslims being let into the country.
somehistory says
Wherever they live, they break the local laws for the simple reason that they believe they are not subject to any law made by man. They feel that anything not in agreement with islam, is not applicable to them, but whatever is written for them, applies to all of mankind.
So this behavior is not surprising.
gravenimage says
And they have been at this for some time:
“‘I step on your cross’: Muslim leader in Australia says his group ‘not required to comply with Australian laws'”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/i-step-on-your-cross-muslim-leader-in-australia-says-his-group-not-required-to-comply-with-australian-laws
Australia should have bulldozed this compound long since–and then prosecuted these Muslims for not complying. If possible, they should be deported afterwards.
No Fear says
Rightly or wrongly, the Australian govt has locked up religious nutters in the past. They locked up Jehovahs Witnesses during WW2 simply because they were pacifists and refused to fight. They were hardly an active threat to the country.
somehistory says
Few people know this happened in the U.S. also. Some were arrested for going door to door.
And during WWI, some were locked up for writing and publishing a book and others for distribution of said book.
moslims certainly get a soft deal even though they are the dangerous ones who can’t be trusted not to commit terror or treason, or subversion.
gravenimage says
Australia: Muslims defy court order to demolish illegal religious compound, say they’re not bound by Australian law
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Yes–pious Muslims think that Shari’ah law is all that counts, and despise the civilized law of the “filthy Infidels”. Australia has to enforce their laws–these Muslims are not otherwise apt to comply.
simpleton1 says
Those moderates, can be pious, observant, devout, faithful, passionate, sincere, dedicated, fervent, etc..in following the guidance, sayings, actions and deeds of Mohammad as found in the koran, hadith and sira. to change from the “dar al-harb” to “dar al-Islam” where and when shariah law will naturally be enforced.
So it is a “house of war” 🙂
Jennie Hanson says
Doesn’t the Australian government own wrecking equipment?
Get out of Australia.
Al other words are superfluous.
TWG says
One word: NAPALM.
Dawne says
FGS – jail them for contempt and bulldoze the whole thing. It really isn’t hard, but the authorities are into appeasement clearly.