“Imagine how amazing it would be that more people could encounter the love of Allah…”
Yes, imagine how amazing it will be when Muslims who have encountered the love of Allah conquer and subjugate the native Swedes, and force them to pay the jizya (tax) and accept the other humiliating and discriminatory regulations of dhimmitude that deny them basic rights, in accord with the Qur’an’s command that the People of the Book be made “to pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued” (Qur’an 9:29).
“Church committee votes yes to Islam: ‘Great for more to encounter the love of Allah,'” translated from “Kyrkomötet röstade ja till islam: ‘Fantastiskt att fler får möta Allahs kärlek,'” Fria Tider, December 8, 2018 (thanks to Denny):
Domestic. During the Church of Sweden’s meeting in November, the Sweden Democrats’ critical initiative on dropping calls to prayer was voted down, reports the Christian newspaper The Day. Among the arguments of the other participants was the opportunity for more people to meet the “love of Allah.”
The Church committee is the highest decision-making body of the Swedish Church.
Prior to the November meeting, the Sweden Democrats, who had 24 mandates, had suggested that the Church of Sweden should have a critical attitude towards the Islamic prayer call.
However, the motion was voted down by a large majority.
206 voted against and 26 for.
Among those who argued against the motion was Artemis Lumarker from Open Church, a nomination group within the Swedish Church.
“Imagine how amazing it would be that more people could encounter the love of Allah and God, and what we get out of the meeting with each other,” he said, according to the Day, and also claimed that SD is trying to “dehumanize” other people….
Social Democrat Isak Öhrlund explained, on the other hand, that the Church should be “a progressive and open force” in society, writes the Day, and therefore one cannot be critical of prayer calls.
Walter Sieruk says
The heads of that church in Sweden need to look into and study their Bible so that they may have a “reality check” and wake up and see as well as understand that the God of Christianity in not the god of Islam. Furthermore, there are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” pastors, who have made the outstanding claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
There is the Christian site http://www.answering-islam.org
Elisha says
“However, the motion was voted down by a large majority.”
“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.” – Matthew 7:13-14
J D S says
Like I said in an earlier post…..SWEDEN….Oops…SWEDEISTAN is DONE!
orville clift says
Sweden, we hardly knew ye.
John says
Christianity teaches that the God of the Bible is the source of all knowledge. (Proverbs 1:7).
According to Islam the source of all knowledge is the Qur’an, the Hadiths, and the Bible.The Qur’an says that the Bible is a previous revelation from God. (Surah 6:114 “…Those unto whom We gave the Scripture [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] know that it is revealed from your Lord in truth…”; Surah 5:46 “And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; (The Law of Moses) and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous.” FACT, Jesus had been DEAD for over 50 YEARS when the Gospels were Written so no way did allah give Jesus the Gospels. allah is the god of Pagan Arabia and Not The God of Jesus, Moses and Abraham. quran 4;157 “SAHIH INTERNATIONAL And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.” quran says Jesus was not Crucified or Resurrected but the Gospels in which the quran says allah gave a DEAD Jesus says He WAS Crucified and Resurrected . MASSIVE CONTRADICTION from the Fraudulent SATANIC quran. Surah 3:54 says, “Allah is the greatest of all deceivers.” How then can you trust him?
Proof that the Bible alone is true
1. If the Qur’an is true, the Bible is true. (Surah 6:114 ; Surah 6:34 ; Surah 6:115)
2. The Bible is true, and teaches that any revelation that contradicts it is false.
3. The Qur’an contradicts the Bible.
4. Therefore, the Qur’an is false. The name of Allah originated in polytheism and long before Islam ever arose. Mohammed was born in 570 and began preaching about his new religion of Islam (with Allah as its god) around 610. He gained 150 converts in his first 13 years of evangelism in Mecca and then went to Medina where he pursued physical, or combat, jihad while acquiring 100,000 converts up until his death in 632 A.D. using the name of Allah. However, the god name Allah had existed several centuries before Mohammed co-opted it as the god of Islam. Allah was a truncated form of Al-Ilah, one of the 360 pagan deities worshipped by the nomadic pagan and polytheistic Arabs at the Kaaba in Mecca before, during, and after the time of Christ.Mohammed’s father was also named Abdullah (meaning “slave of Allah”.) A tribe of Jews was called Abdullah bin Salam in the Bukhari Hadith.
Lilith Wept says
Allah is the best of decievers….Abu Bakr, who is said in the Hadith to be one of the best human beings after Mohammed, he was the Caliph after Mohammed and he believed in Mohammed right from the beginning said “ By Allah! I would not rest assured and feel safe from the deception of Allah even if I had one foot in paradise!”
This is on the website Answering Islam.
My personal belief that Mohammed suffered from seizures, epilepsy ( several incidences of him having a seizure are recorded)
And he had a seizure with hallucinations. When he came home and re,aged this to his wife , she and her cousin told him he was a prophet of Allah. So Mohammed’s validation came original,y from His rich first wife and her cousin.
Eventually Mohammed saw the respect this gave him, even though he had few followers at first, then later when Mohammed gained more followers, many of whom were warriors, he saw what benefits being a “prophet “ could give him, he took full advantage of it. I believe Mohammed’s childhood made him hate woman , and desperately need to have power over others. It made him need to have respect and wealth. Mohammed hatred being mocked or made fun of, and when he gained power he took savage revenge against those who had mocked him, made songs or poems deriding him.
Islam is satans invention. Islam oppresses people, denying them this bod fiber free will, keepingbthem closed minded. It commands that mankind deny their natural curiosity , commanded not to question their religion, and not to seek knowledge of other religions. moslems are discouraged from reading the Bible and this keeps moslems away from any knowledge of Jesus or God ….and salvation.
It causes people to worship a false god and a false prophet. And this god is derived from an idol, a god made of rock, representing the moon.
Islam has cause massive pain and suffering and death for 1400 years and it’s not ending any time soon.
Islam causes moslms to disobey the commands of God.
Islam teaches hatred…hatred of anyone who is not a fellow worshiper of Allah, and especial rabid hatred of Christians and Jews. There are no commands to love.
Allah doesn’t love his followers, he only tells them he loves what they do, and he especially loves their acts of hatred , violence and killing.
Islam promises a guarantee of Paradise to those who die while engaged in killing those who don’t believe in Islam.
Islam’s heaven is like a brothel
Islam destroys the sacrament of marriage, and the family , the building lock of a civilized society.
The false and misunderstood elements of Judaism and Christianity in the Koran make mock of these religions which worship,the true god.
Islam’s false god is a god of hatred, violence, killing and subjugation. He ommands his followers do these things in his name. His followers are his “slaves”. Allah only loves what his followers do, he never tells them he loves them.for themselves. Allah forces his believers to stay his believers, on pain of death if they leave, and on pain of death for daring to question or critisize him. The only proof or validation of Allah and Mohammed is Mohammed’s word. “ Look I am a prophet, this book which I say God dictated to me says so! “
The God of the Bible is a god of love, forgiveness, He calls us His children and tells us He loves us. And He tells us the greatest of his commandments is to love one another. If you reject this , God is saddened, but He gave us free will and accepts our rejection of Him, But is always ready to accept us back anytime. God has no penalty for questioning or criticizing him,
God promises heaven to everyone who believes that Jesus died for their sins and is the son of God. The heaven of Christians is all about being close to God, not having sex wirh ever virgin sex slaves.
Even if you don’t believe God of the Torah and Gospel, most people have some kind of a moral code, knowing what is right and what is wrong. And Islam and the things it commands moslems to do is just wrong.
gravenimage says
John, Muslims claim that the Torah and Gospels were “corrupted” by Jews and Christians, and that these scriptures were originally as savage and loveless as the Qur’an. It does not matter to them that this is utterly false.
mortimer says
Statistical Analysis of words ‘Fear’, ‘Love’ and ‘Hate’ in the Koran: ALLAH ‘HATES’ THE KAFIR
There are over 400 references in the Koran to hate, over 300 references in the Koran to Allah and FEAR, but there are only 49 references to love. Of these love references, 39 are negative such as the 14 negative references to love of money, power, other gods and status.
Three verses command humanity to love Allah and only 2 verses are about how Allah loves a believer. There are 25 verses about how Allah does NOT love kafirs (disbelievers).
This leaves 5 verses about love. Of these 5 verses, 3 are about loving kin or a Muslim brother. One verse commands a Muslim to give money for the love of Allah. This leaves only one quasi-universal verse about love: give what you love to zakat-charity and even this is contaminated by dualism since Muslim zakat-charity only goes to other Muslims. There are OVER 400 teachings of HATE directed against all disbelievers: Jews, Christians, Idolaters and Kafirs.
So much for love. HATE and FEAR are what Allah demands in the Koran.
Grace Friesen says
AMEN!! Well said!
brane pilot says
Sweden is firmly in the grip of a mass social psychosis.
There seems to be no exit at this point.
All native Swedes must dive off the cliff into the fjord.
Bill says
True. This may be my last comment on the latest milestone passed by the Swedes on their superhighway to oblivion. Pointless to react. They are finished and nothing can be done to stop it.
We have our hands full dealing with it here.
Nona says
“Pointless to react.”
You, sure as h…., better react! After they (and Europe) are completely conquered, and united, they will turn to us, in the Americas We are next!
gravenimage says
Agreed, Nona. We had *better* react.
mortimer says
The Swedes disestablished the Church of Sweden and they are establishing Islam.
Roland Tours says
@brane pilot: “mass social psychosis” or mass hypnosis as cause of Sweden’s abject capitulation to Islam. Something like that. An economically successful, politically anesthetized, homogenous society that develops a high level of trust seems especially vulnerable, like an isolated aboriginal tribe, to cynical violent invaders.
Carol the 1st says
What a “snow” job! Are Swedish religious leaders in touch with the outside world or don’t they at least have access to objective reading material? Informed people know that a mosque is a fortress that only presents itself as a church.
Rs says
No Swedish state church is firmly in the grip of communists. Sweden state church is a joke, you will not Jesus there.
revereridesagain says
Paul Joseph Watson calls this kind of insanity “pathological altruism”. I think he’s being too kind. Cooing about the “love of” a monstrous god figure whose own “scripture” portrays him as a pathological maniac filled with hatred and vengeance towards all beings who do not prostrate themselves before him and obey his every vicious command is intellectual and moral cowardice. If course these cretins don’t care about the people who will be driven to distraction by this caterwauling they will be unable to escape. If they don’t appreciate having the “love” of some god-being blasted into their ears, they can hardly deserve any consideration.
gravenimage says
+1
DHazard says
The Church of Sweden is an evangelical Lutheran denomination. It is liturgically and theologically “high church”, having retained priests, vestments, and the Mass during the Swedish Reformation (straight from Wikipedia). So they are basically Catholic Protestants and until the year 2000 they were the official state church, not kidding. Now Islam is the unofficial state church of Sweden. With this move they have adopted not only the call to prayer but FGM, terrorism, Shariah courts, death for most sexual activity, Islamic blasphemy laws and a huge bill for housing, feeding and healing people who are mostly ungrateful and, in their minds, superior to the very people they depend on for their existence. Islam does not mix well with cultures that encourage happiness, freedom of thought, spirituality, obeying non-Islamic laws. Europe and Canada – stop giving someone else’s earned money away to a bunch of angry, unskilled strangers. They will just become more resentful.
Lydia Church says
With islam, you don’t encounter any love. You only encounter the hate of allah. No further evidence should be necessary.
If you want to encounter the love of GOD, however, then you should get as far away as possible from islam, and turn to the BIBLE, and there you will find it.
And NO, the church should NOT allow ANY thing from a FALSE god, such as allah!
God was very specific that His people were NOT to be ‘open’ to any false gods (such as allah), and be 100% CLOSED to them!!! Or else they were considered as a wife who became a harlot!
And Christ will receive no harlot as His virgin bride, the church!
We must be TOTALLY CRITICAL of any islamic ‘prayer’ calls if we are to call ourselves the church!
All you will get out of ‘meeting these people’ is jihad. Then the definition of dehumanizing will take on a new, stinging effect for those who do.
Again, Sweden is getting what it is asking for… utter destruction!
It is European suicide!
“Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you…
until He has destroyed you. The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed. They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land… .”
Deuteronomy 28; 47-52
YOU ARE NOT TO DO ACCORDING TO THE OTHER RELIGION’S PAGAN GODS!
“You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do according to their works; but you shall utterly overthrow them and completely break down their sacred pillars.” Exodus 23; 24
You are to destroy their temples!
YES, ISLAM IS A PAGAN RELIGION, AND NO, IT IS NOT ‘ABRAHAMIC,’ IT IS NOT ‘THE SAME GOD,’ SINCE GOD DOES NOT CONTRADICT HIMSELF! ISLAM IS CONTRADICTORY WITH CHRISTIANITY (AND JUDAISM) IN SO MANY WAYS!
Proof: (1 of millions!)
“Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.”
1 John 2; 23
Christianity has God, islam does not have God because you need to acknowledge God the Son in order to have God the Father!!!
Repent all you in apostasy!!!
alex Reid says
Friggin’ idiots!! Try & walk down a street in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, or elsewhere in the Arab/Muslim world. with a bible, wearing a crucifix, or another non-Muslim religious symbol. See what happens to you! This tolerance is only one way & the Muslims are laughing their cocks off!
rubiconcrest says
I wonder did the church interview Muslims attempting the escape Islam? What do they have to say about the love of Allah?
Ragdoll says
*facepalm*
No. Just no, Sweden.
Anjuli Pandavar says
My dear Swedish Brothers and Sisters in Christ who are so excited about hearing the love of Allah, just to be clear, there isn’t very much. There are 6,236 verses in the Qur’an. The actual number of verses that mention the word “love” is 93 (note that there is a great deal of repetition):
Allah spells out whom he does *not love* (24)
Allah spells out whom he does love (18)
Allah rebukes the believers for loving one thing or another (19)
Allah bestows romantic, fraternal or amiable love (4)
Allah claims he can even make you love your enemy (1)
Allah commands Muslims to love him, i.e., Allah (13)
In the remaining 14 verses, the word “love” appears in the quoted words of third parties, in descriptions of love between third parties, or in a context other than an exhortation to love.
As for verses containing the word “compassion”, here the Qur’an fares a little better. Of the 9 verses in which the word “compassion” is mentioned, Chapter 90: verses 11-17 get closest to the Biblical sense of compassion. Like all Qur’anic exhortations to do good, this one ends with a threat of severe punishment for failure to comply. However, if you are compassionate, it would be because Allah placed compassion in your heart. One verse exhorts the believers to “make yourself submissively gentle to them [your parents] with compassion,” while another commands them to, “be maintainers of justice, [and] bearers of witness of Allah’s sake, though it may be against your own …parents… Allah is nearer to them both [maintainers of justice, and bearers of witness of Allah’s sake] in compassion,” and the submissively, gentle and compassionate child must now turn against its own parents to gain the compassion of Allah. The rest of the “compassion” verses are commands to *not show compassion* to infidels (that includes you, Swedish Christians), or to *guard against* compassion.
Good luck with finding Allah’s love.
gravenimage says
+1
Benedict says
The head of the Church of Sweden is not surprisingly a women: Archbishop Antje Jackelén and her motto is GOD IS GREATER (1 John 3:20.) The words taken out of its context here sounds rather familiar – especially to Muslims – and that is probably intentionally.
gravenimage says
Of course, 1 John 3:20 Has *nothing* to do with the Muslim war cry “Allahu Akbar!”. Here is the verse:
For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things.
Benedict says
More potato pancake from g.
Of cause it has nothing to do with the Muslim war cry. But if you choose three words from a verse in the Bible as your motto and these three words constitute the Muslim war cry maybe there is a hint to be found there? And I’m not the one who found it:
A Swedish journalist Sven-Olof Lööv has this to say about it:
https://www.op.se/artikel/ledare/arkebiskopens-valsprak-ar-aningslost-milt-uttryckt
Ärkebiskopens valspråk är aningslöst, milt uttryckt
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Allahu´akbar är centrala ord i islam. De betyder “Gud är större” och inleder böneutropen från moskéernas minareter. För inte så länge sedan var de nog närmast positivt laddade även för icke-muslimska besökare i islams länder. Få saker kan vara så stämningsladdade som ett böneutrop i tysta gryningen.
Det är hemskt att säga, men för den som följer Syrienkonflikten har två år med vansinnesdåd till ackompanjemang av Allahu akbar förvandlat böneorden till ett ondskans vrål.
Tillträdande ärkebiskopen Antje Jackelén har som valspråk Gud är större. Det är hämtat ur 1:a Johannesbrevet och, hävdar hennes tillskyndare, djupt rotad i kristen tradition. Det sistnämnda låter skruvat. Rimligen låter “Gud är större” främmande och rätt egenartat även för de flesta medlemmar i Svenska kyrkan.
Att texter på kort tid kan laddas med helt andra värden än de ursprungliga, lär Antje Jackelén, som kom till Sverige från Tyskland i vuxen ålder, vara välbekant med. Nationalsången Deutschlandlied är vacker och fram till Tredje riket var första strofen – Deutschland, Deutschland über alles – inte kontroversiell. Efter 1945 har ingen anständig människa sjungit den. Lika lite som Fredrik Reinfeldt skulle få för sig att saluföra arbetslinjen med devisen Arbete befriar.
…….
gravenimage says
If anyone wonders what this “potato pancake” reference is, it is my mentioning it on the “Happy Hanukkah!” story from December 2:
Happy Hanukkah to all Jewish Jihad Watchers!
(My husband and I are making potato pancakes for breakfast)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/happy-hanukkah#comment-2024953
Benedict has expressed support for the sexual horrors of Islam, including polygamy and forced marriage. So it should not surprise that he is *enraged* by this simple example of marital love and caring. He has now sneered at my husband and I fixing breakfast for each other across multiple threads. *Ugh*.
Benedict says
G: Someone might even wonder why your comment here is so beyond the point and also wonder about your marvelous ability to read something into a comment that is pure fantasy. The irrelevancies of your potato pancakes serve as an illustration to these phenomena.
gravenimage says
It was Benedict who brought up my days’ old reference to potato pancakes here. He has, in fact, been obsessed with it over the past several days.
As for the above, there is no doubt that Archbishop Antje Jackelén is a dhimmi tool–but the idea that her reference to 1 John 3:20 is actually a veiled call for Muslims to slaughter Christians seems a reach at best, and calumny at worst.
Benedict says
“but the idea that her reference to 1 John 3:20 is actually a veiled call for Muslims to *slaughter Christians* seems a reach at best, and calumny at worst.” ….
But this idea is entirely your fabrication, g. No one claims that. The issue is this: knowing that “God is greater” – “Gud är större” in Swedish – inevitable leads the thoughts of those who are familiar with the Muslim war cry “Allahu Akbar” – and these are many – to the atrocities perpetrated in the name of Allah. In this way the slogan archbishop Antje Jackelén has chosen for her service in the Church of Sweden becomes an offense to many of its members and also to many Swedes outside the church. It is a thoughtless and untimely motto chosen by an educated woman migrated from Germany to Sweden, and therefore she should have known better. No decent person sings “Deutschland, Deutschland über alles” after Hitler, and only an ignorant or malevolent person uses the words “Gud är större” without understanding or very well understanding their ambiguity.
Are you so simplistic of mind that you can’t fathom that?
gravenimage says
I don’t think the biggest problem in Sweden is quoting the Bible. Others may, of course, disagree.
boakai ngombu says
the allah god of islam (unknowable’ the best of all deceivers) is very gay, absolutely delighted, over this. it seeks to destroy faith in Christ Jesus and the church as well as destroy Judaism and Israel as it continues its quest to subjugate all..
disgusting
Carol the 1st says
Potato pancakes with sour cream are deelicious and have inspired me investigate Hannukah.
Hannukah celebrates the miracle of the Festival of Lights – a night’s supply of lamp oil provided light for eight nights; this took place during the rededication of the HOLY TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM. Pancakes are a traditional dish, serving as a reminder of the food hurriedly prepared for the Maccabees as they went into battle, along with the oil they are fried in as a reminder of the miraculous oil.
Other than a little heartburn, what’s not to like?
gravenimage says
🙂
Ren says
Should read:
Church of Sweden votes against ban on Islamic call to prayer so that “more people could encounter the HATRED of Allah”
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
The whole Western Europe is gone! And this is because of the people who populate his continent. The muslim invasion is full swing. The demographic rise is much greater than the of the native europeans. The Christianity is on its way out from Europe. These so called Christians are nit real Christians-they are false Christians who betrayed Christ 99 times over. Very soon we will eyewitness the crucial change of their social fabric. It is just a matter of time. Only the Eastern Europe will survive because those people are aware of what Islam is. They have been fighting islam for centuries.
Eurasia is here!
Indiana Tom says
so western civilization has not been fighting the muzzies for centuries?
gravenimage says
Another call for surrender, I see.
GreekEmpress says
Agree.
So sad.
Indiana Tom says
“So more people will encounter the love of Allah”.
Yes, I am sure that more people will encounter the love of Allah when the Jihadis kill them.
gravenimage says
Church of Sweden votes against ban on Islamic call to prayer so that “more people could encounter the love of Allah”
………………………
Given the hideous number of Muslim rapes and murders of native Swedes, I think all too many have encountered the “love” of Allah in Sweden…
Rufolino says
Yes Gravenimage -and it doesn’t make any difference !!
pfwag says
Are these people really this stupid? It will serve them right to get their infidel heads chopped off – in the name of loving Allah.
Thelastvirgingoat says
You have no idea Buddy Islamist’s have already infiltrated your government and judicial system better hope Trump gets RE-elected if you want to have a fighting chance.
gravenimage says
Yes-the whole of the West us in trouble–just some of us more than others.
Jennie Hanson says
Sweden, hurry up and get it over with. And close the door on your way out.
FYI says
Did the Christless Church of Sweden ever bother to read what the koran says?
allah CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ koran 9:30
Dhimmi “Christians”: the catholic “pope” frankie the heretic and lazy protestants happy to betray the one they claim to follow…..
Wellington says
Sweden has lost its collective mind. Hey, where is the traditional Swedish male, protecting wife, children and Swedish culture?
Or is this too much of a toxic masculinity kind of query? Probably—and thus dispositive of the real problem, the ultimate problem. Because, you see, evil, stupidity too, is NOT the first and foremost difficulty for civilization. Rather, the absence of effective opposition to evil and stupidity are.
And without “toxic masculinity” and similar phenomena now foolishly excoriated by the pc/mc idiots out there, for instance a realization of the greatness of Western Civilization, there is little hope that liberty and other great things like equality under the law and the capacity to apologize for past wrongdoings will prevail.
Do you get this, Church of Sweden authorities? No, you get none of this while continuing to suck up to a religion which is spiritual fascism in thin disguise and, if given the opportunity, will confine Christians to second-class, humiliating status, if even this.
Church of Sweden: You are pathetic, traitors too to both your country and your religion.
Carol the 1st says
Speaking of “the absence of effective opposition to evil and stupidity” must make all sane people consider the enormous damage the silencing of FREE SPEECH will do – PARTICULARLY TO WOMEN (listen up the Turdeau and Butts conjoined twins). We have little muscle other than our power to think, speak, and influence. Shutting down Free Speech will effectively dispossess us and “dumb and silent” we will be rather easy fodder for ideological tyrants.
O/T but Stefan Molyneux has an instructive video about the latest attempt to manipulate the plebes:
The Terrible Truth About the UN Migration Compact | by Stefan Molyneuxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQQyAS4hFx4
Carol the 1st says
Make that:
The Terrible Truth About the UN Migration Compact | by Stefan Molyneux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQQyAS4hFx4
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve posted these video on JW. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBASeEiAxDo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUTe9ZQpYk
Arthur says
Domestic. During the Church of Sweden’s meeting in November, the Sweden Democrats’ critical initiative on dropping calls to prayer was voted down, reports the Christian newspaper The Day. Among the arguments of the other participants was the opportunity for more people to meet the “love of Satan.”
The Church committee is the highest decision-making body of the Swedish Church.
Prior to the November meeting, the Sweden Democrats, who had 24 mandates, had suggested that the Church of Sweden should have a critical attitude towards the Satanic prayer call.
However, the motion was voted down by a large majority.
206 voted against and 26 for.
Among those who argued against the motion was Artemis Lumarker from Open Church, a nomination group within the Swedish Church.
“Imagine how amazing it would be that more people could encounter the love of Satan and God, and what we get out of the meeting with each other,” he said, according to the Day, and also claimed that SD is trying to “dehumanize” other people….
Social Democrat Isak Öhrlund explained, on the other hand, that the Church should be “a progressive and open force” in society, writes the Day, and therefore one cannot be critical of prayer calls.
Guy Jones says
I’m stupefied — intellectually curious and rational people (as I’m sure most Swedes consider themselves) have a voluminous and well-documented 1,400-year historical record to examine (since Islam’s inception), detailing Islamic conquests, atrocities, belligerence, cruelty and subjugation. To say nothing of the explicitly and unambiguously supremacist, totalitarian and hate-filled mandates contained within the Koran. To say nothing of myriad examples of the belligerent, violent and intolerant conduct of contemporary Muslims, both in their countries of origins and their adoptive countries.
What is at work here is a confounding, vanity-laced exercise in contemptible and indefensible historical and theological ignorance, a sort of self-congratulatory, self-emasculated pageantry of self-imposed dhimmitude.
If the Swedes are content to live under the bootheel of Islamic totalitarianism, that is their freely-made choice, I suppose. Rank stupidity cannot be cured.
Carol the 1st says
Well said.
loki says
The Church of Sweden becomes an Islamic sect. The conquest of europe is very far along indeed.
Gene says
Thousands of people “encounter the love of Allah” everyday. The lucky ones get to keep their heads and come out of it without being raped or maimed for life. We don’t need more encounters with the love of Allah. In fact the world will be a better place when Islam no longer exists.
gravenimage says
Too true.
Jayell says
The ‘love of Allah’? This is the ‘loving father-figure’-in-the-sky who encouraged his ersatz foster-son, aka the Holy Prophet Mohammed, to commit every criminal atrocity under the sun? Assuming, that is, that this wonderful ‘chosen’ spoilt brat wasn’t a touch delusional as well as criminal or just had a wonderful way of having people on in order to get hold of their goodies? Well, the only thing that we know about the ‘love of Allah’ is that it can be in short supply if you get on the wrong side of him; more like the ‘Godfather’ than the ‘Father God’. OK, so if that’s what the Swedes want…..
dan christenen says
Better encounter the wrath of God than the love of Allah – it is better for your health.
tim gallagher says
The appalling level of ignorance about Islam’s nature exhibited by the spokespeople for the Church of Sweden defies belief. “The love of Allah”!? What love? Allah’s calls for Muslims to kill non-Muslims, to kill gays, to marry underaged girls, to carry out female genital mutilation, and so on, show that Allah is satanically evil. I believe Islam is the opposite of Christianity. These Christian church spokes people are condoning evil when they call on Christians to try to get along with Islam. The idea of Christians calling on other Christians to cosy up to a vile, evil religion like Islam, which calls on its members to kill Christians is sickening. Christians should fight against evil. These types of Christians, who make the type of absurd comments like these ones, I think, just have the idea that Christians are just meant to mindlessly love everything and everyone. In the Catholic mass, there is this line, early in the mass” “Glory to God in the highest and, on earth, peace to people of good will. ” Islam has no good will that I can see. Muslims are generally not people of good will. “The love of Allah” – what rubbish! It doesn’t exist. Or maybe it exists only for Muslims. For Christians, there seems to be only hatred from Allah.
gravenimage says
+1
Brett_McS says
The call to prayer could be done with a phone app. We know they all have them.
gravenimage says
True–there is no need for the call to prayer for Muslims to know it is prayer-time–this is just Muslim supremacy.
WPM says
The call to pray in the early morning hours is like the roosters calling out that he is lord and master of the barnyard it is arrogant ,and annoying .Like block off streets so Moslems can say their prays it is forced on non-Moslems to prove Moslems are superior to them. The more you give into the bullies the more they want.
infidel says
What have these evil creatures got to do anything with love the world over..
Colin says
This is both very funny and not in the least amusing
Jingle Jihad Bells
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZsDwR59Rzc
Carol the 1st says
Sad but true. It should be posted in every relevant Christmas article we find on Jihad Watch.
Jan Favre says
Main stream church in Sweden is not Christian, but Chrislamist.
David says
Islam will be the state church there soon so makes no odds what these lunatics are doing to their country , I hope the people wake up soon to what’s happening to their country before it’s too late …
Daniel Silvan says
Many Swedes, especially women, encounter the love of Allah on a daily basis. In fact there are areas that you are guaranteed to encounter the love of Allah, but police, ambulance and firefighters avoid them for some reason.
The awful truth says
Translation: Greater love hath no man than the call of a loudspeaker.
Erl Roe says
Wow many will say great!!! and what else can we indigenous Swedish Kafars agreed to next genital mutilation wow but not the horny Swedish women … Just sanction rape of the women over the age of fifteen now that it seems the norm maybe the sanctimonious Church leaders can take the lead with the minuets calling out for more sexual abuse of the down trodden women … The wonder of multi culturaism .
Who would ever want to have to live in such a hell hole country ? the Islamics of course free sex that you can’t get in their homelands
Garnett Rope says
Those that took this vote are ignorant of islams 1400 year history and of what the call to prayer actually says. For 1400 years islam has been the scourge of the world, bringing murder, rape, conquest, stealing, jihad, lies….. the call to prayer is an “allah” only mandate, and saying that islam will dominate the world.
Haroldp says
Why is the church being nice to Muslims? Muslims aren’t nice to Christians.