In reality, the riots have nothing to do with the Muslim migrants or “Islamophobia.” Nor is Macron opposed to the Muslim migrants, or “Islamophobic” by any definition of that propaganda neologism. But don’t trouble Erdogan with facts.
“France caught in its own trap of hostility against refugees, Islam, says Erdoğan,” Ahval, December 8, 2018:
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Saturday expressed his concern regarding the chaos caused by the ‘Yellow Vest’ protests in Paris, while pointing to France’s discrimination against refugees and Islam, independent news site T24 reported….
‘’The picture that has emerged shows us that Europe has failed in the lessons of democracy, human rights, freedoms,’’ Erdoğan said, adding, “Those who provoke hostility against refugees and Islamophobia have been caught in their own trap.”
Last week, hundreds of people were arrested and scores injured in violence on the streets of Paris, some of the worst clashes to take place in the French capital for decades, in the fourth weekend of anti-government protests which have turned violent. Four people have been killed as yellow-vested protesters angry at President Emmanuel Macron and France’s high taxes continue to take the streets.
Around 31,000 people were taking part in Saturday’s demonstrations, according to France’s junior interior minister, of which 8,000 were in or around Paris.
mortimer says
This globalist conspiracy is going to be defeated. We’ve had enough and people are starting to get out and protest.
gravenimage says
Alas, the demonstrators are not protesting Muslim immigration into France. I wish they were.
Westman says
Ah, but, indirectly, they are, and only beginning to realize it.
Erdogan has it completely backwards. The “refugees” are caught in a trap caused by their requirements versus contributions on top of an already stressed-to-breaking, by socialism, economy.
Macron is attempting to escape that reality by raising taxes on an economic system that will generate even less less after the taxes are imposed. France has been in economic trouble since the late 1990’s, has a declining tourist income, an increasing migrant burden, high unempoyment, and is in the position of soon being forced to cut pensions and subsidies for which there will be severe backlash eclipsing the past week.
Worse yet, a friend living there expressed to me, France is a quiltwork of “pockets of privilege” which destroys the perception of equality among the populace. The French are fed up with elite privilege and just waking up to the cost of “migrants”.
Frederick King says
So Merkle and th french president believe higher numbers of migrants from tribal zones would help this.
gravenimage says
I hope so, Westman.
Deborah says
Amen to this!!!
Lavéritétriomphera says
Yes, we are standing up for our country and we want the power back to the people. Macron must remember he is called upon to serve France and French people.
CogitoErgoSum says
Here we have another Muslim man who has reached the age where he needs to emulate Muhammad more closely. Eat poison and die, Erdogan.
Raja says
CogitoErgoSum, and he can hope for 72 voluptuous “large eyed” etc virgins.
All these Islamic apologists are shameless to the core when speaking on Islam.
The civilized world should start charging the likes of Zakir Naik so that some semblance of order can be brought to the polity. That should also be the first step in openly expressing against sharia and jihad terror..
I guess this is the only way the West can be on the OFFENSIVE against evil pol Islam.
CogitoErgoSum says
Any Muslim man who fails to eat his piece of poisoned sheep meat by the age of 62 in emulation of the “holy prophet” (who failed to see it coming) should be ashamed of himself. If Muhammad didn’t get to live longer than 62 years why should anyone else? Do the elderly think they are more deserving of a long life than Muhammad was? All Muslims older than 62 should not expect anything other than hell fire when they do finally die … and may the intensity of the fire increase with the number of years lived beyond 62. Oh, but wait …….Muslims see life as a punishment in itself and feel they must do their part in seeing that life is as miserable for everybody as possible in order to please Allah. So most of them try to stick around to help mete out the punishment as good helpers of Allah. Guess Muhammad actually got off easy … which means wishing for Erdogan’s imminent demise is actually something to be desired for his own good …. and he should desire it too. Phew …. now everybody can feel better about hoping Erdogan kicks the bucket as soon as possible. It’s like wishing him all the best. So …. die, Erdogan, die!
Renate says
Macron taxes the middle class and poor to pay for his grandiose globalist ideals while letting the elites and migrants off scot free. Of course, that’s o.k. with Erdogan.
alex Reid says
Over the past year, or so, President Erdogan has evolved more & more into a megalomaniac. He will inflict great damage on Turkey in his pursuit for further self-aggrandisement. Seeking a Balkan Caliphate with him as its head..
mortimer says
The Turkish government now has a 5% approval rating.
Raja says
Mortimer,
With all respect to you, Mohd managed a full 0 to 100% ratings through terror(in his own words-if he ever existed)
Don McKellar says
It’s almost as if Erdogan has lost his marbles! What in the hell is he even talking about? The riots are a result of the Climate Change Scam gone mad with aggressive taxation on the common man in the name of the Paris Agreement! With a strong undercurrent rejection of elitist socialism at the expense of everybody but the elite and their favourite victims. Leave it to an Islamic Supremacist to try and spin it as an attack on Islam.
Joe says
Yeah, he can’t even get his words right.
Erdogan, “Those who provoke hostility against refugees and Islamophobia have been caught in their own trap.”
He is saying to not counter Islamophobia, but that is not what he meant. And, he is their “leader”.
mortimer says
MACRON’S POWER GRAB IS BACKFIRING
The carbon taxes and the migration conspiracy are two ways the globalist 1% and their HENCHMEN want to GRAB POWER away from the middle class and crush them.
Macron falsely presented himself as a socialist, but how did a BANSKTER become a ‘socialist’? He didn’t become on.
gravenimage says
Erdogan on France riots: “Those who provoke hostility against refugees and Islamophobia caught in their own trap”
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These protests are against gas taxes–not that the French are clamoring for their government to let in more ravening Muslims.
Tamako says
The globalist were squeezing the American taxpayer for their fake global warming BS until The American President Trump saw their dirty deeds and pull the Americans out of the all these scams. Good for the Americans and President Trump. We wish there mire like him. The French people are revolting. Macron critized Trump and look at him now. These globalist just don’t learn. The Turks don’t like Christians nor Jews so what is his complaint?
FYI says
Macron and Erdy:they are like too peas in a pod.
Macron the French Globalist with his delusions of Napoleonic grandeur and Erdogan with his delusions of being a modern Ottoman sultan who dreams of a Turkish islamic caliphate.
Napoleon IV and Sultan Erdy the Not So Magnificent
lebel says
“In reality, the riots have nothing to do with the Muslim migrants or “Islamophobia.”
Well played Mr. Spencer, we’ll see if you can maintain that position given that the French equivalent of your anti-Muslim movement is slowly but surely insinuating that those causing the violence are in fact Muslim youth or even linked to the Muslim brotherhood!
gravenimage says
Once again, lebel is claiming that standing against the horrors of Jihad are “anti-Muslim”. Is he implying that all Muslims are pro-Jihad? It certainly looks like it…
Benedict says
Once again the ability of g to read a comment reveals a breathtakingly stupid or obstinate proclivity. I’m afraid the potato pancakes have replaced the empty space that used to occupy her head.
gravenimage says
Benedict wrote:
Once again the ability of g to read a comment reveals a breathtakingly stupid or obstinate proclivity.
………………………..
lebel did indeed characterize the opposition to Jihad as exemplified by Jihad Watch as an “anti-Muslim movement”. This should not surprise–he has done this many times. Does Benedict agree? It would not surprise me.
More:
I’m afraid the potato pancakes have replaced the empty space that used to occupy her head.
………………………..
One may wonder what this reference is. Benedict became enraged at my opposition to the horrors of sexual abuse in Islam, including pedophilia, polygamy, rape, and sex slavery on the “The Grotesque Immorality of Mainstream Islamic Ethics (Part 6)” thread, saying that by saying such things I “routinely attempts to deny and rob Muslims of their humanity”. He also took issue with my describing such barbarism as “disgusting” and “appalling”.
In the same post he then goes on to express disgust for my husband and I fixing potato pancakes for each other (this was on the “Happy Hanukkah!” story December 2nd)–unsurprisingly on a thread where he fails to condemn the lovelessness of Islamic marriage he is *enraged* over an instance of marital love and caring. How awful.
The exchange begins here and continues with subsequent posts:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/12/the-grotesque-immorality-of-mainstream-islamic-ethics-part-6#comment-2027977
Mark Swan says
Benedict,
Lebel said—
“In reality, the riots have nothing to do with the Muslim migrants or “Islamophobia.”
Well played Mr. Spencer, we’ll see if you can maintain that position given that
“the French equivalent of your anti-Muslim movement is slowly but surely insinuating that those causing the violence are in fact Muslim youth or even linked to the Muslim brotherhood”
So no one should say anything even if it turns out it is believed to be so.
Gravenimage said—
“Once again, lebel is claiming that standing against the horrors of Jihad are “anti-Muslim”. Is he implying that all Muslims are pro-Jihad? It certainly looks like it…”
It certainly does look like it.
Benedict said—
“Once again the ability of g to read a comment reveals a breathtakingly stupid or obstinate proclivity. ”
So what exactly reveals a breathtakingly stupid or obstinate proclivity with
what gravenimage wrote here?
CogitoErgoSum says
Muslims (who support a religion that is anti every other religion known to man) are the biggest hypocrites on Earth when they start complaining about anti-Muslim movements. They whine and wallow in self-pity about the reactions that they themselves induce in others. Self-absorbed is a word that comes to mind.
Raja says
CoCogitoErgoSum , Yes indeed Islam is anti every thing in the established world. They are the best in playing victim but in reality are ravening wolves.
If Mohd was so great why didn’t he come before Jesus?
Benedict says
What do you think, lebel? Have these riots anything whatsoever to do with Islam and Muslims in France or outside France?
Hugh Fitzgeraald says
I have been reading that today the “gilets verts”(the Greens) marched alongside the “gilets jaunes.” I don’t understand this. Isn’t Macron under fire in this case mainly for having raised the cost of gasoline? (There are many other reasons, of course, to oppose him). And isn’t raising the cost of gasoline exactly what those worried about climate change– those gilets verts — desire, so as to discourage driving, and the market for large gas guzzlers, and to encourage hybrid and electric cars? I must be missing something.
I did wonder, as many must have, about Muslims joining in the mayhem, but having talked today to people I trust in France, they assure me that so far that has not happened..
Benedict says
We can hope that, but it isn’t beyond credible that a substantial number of Muslims in Paris would find it expedient to vent their animus against the infidels when an opportunity like this presents itself.
gravenimage says
Interesting, Hugh.
vlparker says
You reap what you sow. These clowns voted for Macron over Le Pen by a 2 to 1 margin. Did they think they were going to get tax cuts from a globalist leftist? Really? I don’t know why they are rioting, they got what they voted for.
Renate says
To Muslims, everything is about Muslims &/ Islamophobia. Erdogan doesn’t even seem to consider that the French people are voicing their own concerns about their own situations.
Ernie says
That’s right Renate , your comment makes sense . Erdogan is a narcissist ; and for narcissists the universe has been created solely to fit their needs . Everything evolves around them ( they think ) . Erdogan has tunnel-vision .
Lydia Church says
If you want to be caught in your own trap, be a supporter of Macron, Merkel, or any of those other puppets of the pope’s NWO agenda and hold signs that welcome the migrant invasions, then when your daughters get raped and your grandparents get beat up, you will know it but also that it is too late to change it. Unless….?
For a quicker route to entrapment, just visit Turkey and act like a Westerner…
Deborah says
Bingo!
TrueFreeThinker says
Let’s send millions of non muslimes to Turkey and then pay them $5OOO.OO /month to not work another day in their life and keep in mind a vast majority of the muslimes are young, then let’s see if he likes it!?! It’s hilarious that it’s always muslimes calling the west islamaphobic & racist when the countries in the west are the only countries bringing in all these muslimes – what are the countries that refuse to take in any muslimes ?
gravenimage says
+1
Terra NOva says
Pls read from Gatestone institute december 8 2018:
Does the Netherlands have a problem? by Judith Bergman.
Of course they do, together with the spineless governments of Germany, France, England and the rest of them. And they did nothing, nothing. They only speak to us when they need money then they decide in their back rooms to up the taxes, We were never informed about almost anything, we have nothing to say in anything, because we, the common people don’t belong to the ELITE, and we don’t have the titles in front of our names. , we have nothing to say, only to pay!
But when the referendum came to the Netherlands for the EU, the people voted NO ! Because the common people really knew how it would end and they knew beforehand how dictatorial it would become. like the UN. Elite Corps with luxurious salaries who tatter about small things, but LEAVE THE REAL IMPORTANTS THINGS TO FESTER, they don’t want to touch them and put the weakest groups into the corner, overruled by anybody and anything, but when the tides are changing and the weaker groups get the upper hand, they switch happy along and in the end they say: but we did a good job, we avoided wars, kept everything quite and peaceful they call it and are very happy with themselves.
I have got news for you, that is not how it works, you can not even think with all you university bulls.
And you keep on saying with arrogance:
If the common people would have had a saying in this all or would have decided certain things, it would have ended in a mess.
And you know what: it ends into a big mess ! And that is your doing !!! Totally. When we voted against the EU, that was for a reason, but the government shoved it aside and did what they wanted to do, like there had not been a referendum, and since then it was decided that there will never be a referendum any more. And that is it. Most people of governments are not capable to have a place within those bodies. You allowed an enormous amount of migrants, robbers, killers, rapists, etc to dictate us and demand to be taken care of, having 3 or 4 wives, building I don’t know how many masks, praying on the streets, telling the citizens what to do, how to do it, and when, took away our freedom of speech, not allowing criticism, dragging people to courts, wanting big soms of money, false messages, always playing the victim, lying, threatening the citizens, wanting to conquer the world, putting as much terror into people and children in school, as possible.
Nice try, but we will see…..
It costs 12 German people to work for one year, to keep one migrant alive and happy, food, housing, furniture, clothes, schools, medical bills, everything, so calculate what a migrant muslim family costs with 4 wives, 16 children, etc.
I am for a place for everyone under the sun with good living conditions, but this invasions with destroying , fighting, killing, raping, etc. is too much and has been for quite some time, and now with a UN pact to punish everyone who criticises anybody or group.
Islam brings us a millennium -old WAR ON HUMAN FREEDOM AND DIGNITY.
Bankers make wars to create debts
Fed. Reserve can never be attacked. Secret s of the Fed Reserve(2 books)
Who rules the rulers?
“There’s a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot.” John F, Kennedy, 7 days before he got assasssinated.
Ever thought about that?
See, who your government is, when you dare to criticise them.
We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right mayor crisis, and the nations will accept the NEW WORLD ORDER’. David Rockefeller.
Who spent a decade saluting: Allah in Heaven, Hitler on earth.
When you deal with muslims, you deal with the spawn of Hitler.
Where they prevail, the next pogrom is not far off.
Have a nice future. Don’t worry to much and sleep well.
Carol the 1st says
“There’s a plot in this country…” speech has been debunked. JFK’s “Secret Societies Speech” does mention more worldwide undercurrents however.
Richard Kruse says
Frederick King You must realise that to say that would be “Islamophobic.” We simply can’t allow that in our media.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@level,
The wolf may lose his teeth, but never his nature. Black blocs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc seem implicated in the depredations, but they are probably not the only ones who have committed offenses.
infidel says
I’m so glad that this CREEP admits, albeit inadvertantly, that refugees are really CANCEROUS ISLAMIC TROJANS to the Greater West… Sometimes, the truth does slip out from the tongues of the most cunning and wicked.