Franklin Graham, the son of the late Billy Graham, tweeted that Allah and the Christian God are “not the same.” Following the recent jihad attack in Strasbourg, Graham warned that “radical Islam continues to be a major global threat,” an obvious point that nevertheless makes one an “Islamophobe” for stating it.
Graham disagrees with the Pope:
Referring to the Pope’s comments that Islamic attacks do not constitute a “war of religion,” Graham posted on Facebook that “I disagree that it’s not a war of religion. It is most certainly a war of religion”…. In his reproach of the pope’s interpretation of Islamic terror, Rev. Graham said that religion “is behind the violence and jihad we’re seeing in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and here in this country.”
No one has been indicting all Muslims, but there are those who are quick to call truth-tellers “racists” and “Islamophobes.” Until those who pretend to care about human rights acknowledge the abuses that are being committed worldwide in the name of Islam, there will be no moving forward in the war against the global jihad (stealth and violent), and no reprieve for its countless victims.
Three months ago, the Muslim Council of Britain, an umbrella organization for hundreds of Muslim groups, demanded that Franklin Graham be banned from the country for criticizing Islam.
“Franklin Graham: Allah and the Christian God ‘Not the Same,’” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, December 13, 2018:
Celebrated evangelical pastor Franklin Graham reacted strongly to a recent Islamic terror attack in Strasbourg, France, warning that radical Islam continues to be a major global threat.
In a two-part tweet Saturday, Rev. Graham, the son of the prominent Christian leader Billy Graham, reminded citizens that Islamic extremism has not ceased to be a menace to the world and that, contrary to popular opinion, the Muslim idea of God is very different from the God worshiped by Christians.
In the past, Rev. Graham has said that bloody jihadist attacks should not surprise anyone, since hatred and violence against nonbelievers are central to the teachings of Islam.
“Why does Islam hate so much?” Graham asked in a 2016 Facebook post. “It’s because the Quran teaches its followers to hate.”
“Jews, Christians and others are to be subdued so that Islam may ‘prevail over all religions,’” he added. “It’s all in the final chapter of the Quran—‘Kill or be killed in battle, and paradise awaits,’” he said.
Graham has been an ongoing critic of theories that would equate Islam to Christianity.
In August, 2016, Graham challenged Pope Francis for his remarks suggesting that Islamic terrorism is not religiously motivated.
Referring to the Pope’s comments that Islamic attacks do not constitute a “war of religion,” Graham posted on Facebook that “I disagree that it’s not a war of religion. It is most certainly a war of religion.”
The pope has frequently declared that all religions seek peace, and that religious beliefs cannot be the force driving Islamic terrorism. Rather than religious belief, poverty and misguided politics are the force behind jihadism, he has stated.
In his reproach of the pope’s interpretation of Islamic terror, Rev. Graham said that religion “is behind the violence and jihad we’re seeing in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, and here in this country.”
“It’s a religion that calls for the extermination of ‘infidels’ outside their faith, specifically Jews and Christians,” Graham said.
Alluding to the murder of Catholic priest Jacques Hamel in northern France by two jihadists, Graham stressed the explicit religious belief that moves Islamic terrorists to perpetrate their crimes…..
Michael Copeland says
“Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting…”
Al Baghdadi, Caliph of Islamic State
Al Baghdadi has a PhD in Islamic Studies.
The Pope has had no training in Islamic Studies
Mary Derrick Thornberry says
Islam also desires peace.
However, that will be only when Islam has conquered the world.
Guy Forester says
I think you mean “pieces.”
Lynne says
That is so true, Mary. Peace only comes when Islam rules the world and they can do it only by force.
Cunamarra says
That would depend on your definition of peace. Lack of war at the expense of Individual Rights of Life, Liberty, Property, and Equality before the Law isn’t peace. Islamic Law is not a state of peace and tranquility.
somehistory says
“T’here is no peace,’ my God has said, ‘for the wicked. (Is. 48:22; 57:21)””
satan the devil is the force behind islam. satan is the evil demon who caused the filthy, nasty, evil book to be written. satan does not want peace. satan wants to cause as much strife, trouble, and death among humans as he can before he is dealt the blow to the “head” promised to him in the Bible book of Genesis 3:15.
Even when all people of a nation are moslims, there is no peace in that nation. If moslims ruled the entire world of mankind, there would be no peace. moslims lust for war, for rape, for bloodshed.
Peace is not just the absence of war, and moslims aren’t taught how to be peaceful. They are taught a seething hate and a lust for shedding blood…because the *source* of what they are taught is satan the devil.
peter says
Kaba + allah = kabala, those are the ones you should be worried about, they have better organzation and lot’s more money and they hate you more than the muslims do
Bjorn says
Take a look around the world – ise’t it continual war where Muslims have the power …
Brendan Cleary says
The Pope’s motives are difficult to understand. What is clear, though, are the motives driving the social media. Facebook is clearly beholden to the Muslim left alliance (insane though it sounds) and censors anything even remotely “islamaphobic”. I’m now wearing the badge of a second time Fb suspendee for making observations about the atrocious migrant situation in U.K. and a recent terrorist arrest in Melbourne. In the conservative press, these comments would have earned response, attack, criticism and maybe agreement. In the Left Press, censorship! It will be a long fight.
Michael Copeland says
Islamic State agrees with Graham.
When the tomb of Christian Saint Elian was destroyed by them they explained:
“It is dedicated to a god other than Allah.”
Lydia Church says
Exactly.
If it were ‘the same god,’ then why would muslims see the need to convert everyone?
But since it’s NOT the same God, all are at odds.
Each religious book defines its god, and they all contradict, so it can’t be the same.
God does not contradict Himself.
It doesn’t matter how many descendants came through Abraham’s loins and started
a new religion, they are not ‘Abrahamic’ faiths since they are not Abraham’s God.
The Bible alone (OT & NT) contains the way we are to worship God.
And God was very picky that we do not worship Him as the heathen do, like the muslims.
ronyvo says
“If it were ‘the same god,’ then why would muslims see the need to convert everyone?”
A perfect question, Lydia.
However, if you ask an imam this question he would go around and around with stupid explanations which would lead to nothing. Takyya would be one of the tools the diabolical Koran gives Muslims to deceive the infidels and Muslims alike.
Islam is not a religion. It is the most horrific and violent political system ever existed. Similar to the ‘democratic’ party we have now.
casper111 says
In fact, Quran is a plagiarized version of bible. Mohammad had well plagiarized it some 1400 years ago.
Kepha says
As someone who is fairly familiar with the Old and New Testaments and who has read the Qur’an, I see the latter as not even a plagiarism. It doesn’t even come close to the Bible, and smacks of bits and pieces of biblical lore scrambled with Midrashic and apocryphal snippets that were probably received by hearing various Christian and Jewish interlocutors rather than reading; then all boiled together with Moe’s own imagination and Arab tribal traditions. Perhaos, at best, the Qur’an is a caricature of biblical religion made by someone who had little real understanding of it.
However, as long as Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews use “Allah” for “God”, I will quibble with Mr. Graham–but I will not argue too strenuously with him. His deeper point is that what the Qur’an an Ahadith present as their deity is not the one that a Christian finds in the Old and New Testaments.
A guy named Mo Klepto said, “God
Must find it incredibly odd!
The Christians and the Jews
Give me hisses and boos,
While the Quraysh want me under the sod!”
Raja says
Casper111,
Quran is not just plagiarized but most every event in the bible is tweaked and hijacked for the Quranic objective of lies, murder and mayhem to lure people to to the Islamic carnal paradise and its author the devil.
gravenimage says
True, Raja.
John says
That’s right ! There is only one door to heaven that door is Jesus and no other.
No Muzzies Here says
The Muslim description of Allah is incompatible with the essence of a real God. It cannot be the description of something that actually exists.
There cannot be two Gods. There can be only one. It’s inaccurate to say that “Allah and the Christian God are not the same.” That implies that there are two competing Gods.
dan christensen says
Or it implies that monotheism is a dangerous concept.
The original stone age religion was most surely “shamanism”, which has been practised for at least 40.000 years. Instead of Gods shamans operate and interact with spiritual guides in a spiritual world.
Solitary Gods were only introduced a few thousands years ago.
Ever since their introduction, these Gods have created havoc in human society.
Every God claims absolute power over everything and everybody.
Naturally these Gods then entered a competition, in which only one winner can be proclaimed.
Any Gods almighty power can only be demonstrated by victory over all other claimants to the title “Almighty God”.
What about introducing democratic rule in the heavenly spheres?
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Only a HINDU knows how very violent , devious , knavish & cruel is the so called christian god.
Gerald M Sanders says
And your evidence for this claim is?
Elisha says
LOL!! Yeah, because the Mughals and the Communists have been so good to you. Seriously, you sound like the grand buffoon of atheism, Mr Dawkins. Please, give back cricket and toddle off. Not to mention that hindu god kali with the skull necklace, severed head and knife dripping with blood. Lovely. Too bad for you Christianity is demonstrably true, if only you had the courage and humility to seek truth.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
It is precisely Ma Kali’s GRACE that made Svami Vivekananda address christian morons in Chicago that ended with a standing ovation.
The protestant christian of America had organized it with a view to establishing the supremacy of christianity like you fanatic bible thumpers , the violent crusaders.
When Svami Vivekanada called the ”WARRIOR Monk” from Bharath sat down that american protestant christian had a massive heart attack. Such is your abominable hubris. What gall to pontificate on ”humility & courage”:-((
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
//LOL!! Yeah, because the Mughals and the Communists have been so good to you//
Wipe off that smug & ugly grin by recalling 9/11 memories of what comeuppance Providence delivered to you.
gravenimage says
I see that the vicious Janakiraman Rajalakshmi is *lauding* the Jihad of 9/11. *Just sickening*. No one here is lauding the Jihadists who launched the Mumbai Jihad attack.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
We HINDUS did NOT invite a single christian moron to step into our Bharath. Get this fact into your numb skull.
It is christian barbarians who INVADED our boundaries . And others’ boundaries.
Obviously you barbarians were dumbstruck by Hindus’ Pantheon of Gods & Goddesses.
Out of sheer spite & envy started badmouthing calling us ”pagans / heathens ” yada yada.
If you had found peace in your bible , you would have remained within your own GODDAMNED countries.
Obviously that did not happen with you violent barbarians.
FYI says
The muslims came..did Hindus invite them in for Tiffin?
An estimated 80 MILLION plus Hindus were massacred by muslims in islamic Jihad,thousands of Hindu temples demolished and vandalized and your Bharath today is only HALF the size of Ancient India.
80 MILLION..
It seems you missed that..
DO read Mr Spencer’s books.
gravenimage says
True, FYI.
Elisha says
“If you had found peace in your bible , you would have remained within your own GODDAMNED countries.”
“And then he told them, “Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone.” – Mark 16:15
You embarrass yourself.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
//Please, give back cricket and toddle off//
Idiot christian , I am no fan of cricket.
On the contrary it is christian DACOITS like you who plundered & plundered all over & built your so called ”empire”. Even today it is OUR Yoga , Ayurveda & so on that you INGRATES are benefitting from.
I would be the happiest to find both cricket & christianity rendered EXTINCT.
allahscum says
I think you meant to say muslim god. Hindus have suffered horribly because of the muslims. One of the biggest genocides in history. Am certain you must have been mistaken.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Raja says
Janaki…
Your post : “Only a HINDU knows how very violent , devious , knavish & cruel is the so called christian god”.
is hardly descriptive and lacking in evidence. In India people who don’t read or learn seem to have poor understanding of God or religion.
Hindus say that they are very broad minded but some are happy to differentiate “christian god”, islamic god, hindu god and so on.
The ruling BJP recognized the difference between Islamic god and Christian God and hence reestablished full diplomatic relations with Israel in the year 2004 or 2203.
The prime minister is very close to Israel than any Islamic nation because he sees the difference in the system of faith and probably the hegemony of Islam.
BTW, God is only one just like you can have only one PM, one president one bio mother or father and so on.
Did you know that the Christian God was very harsh with His people in the old testament ( and they suffered most part of history) and also in the new testament the guiding principle is : James 5:10 & 11—
As an example, brethren, of suffering and patience, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord.
11 We count those blessed who endured. You have heard of the endurance of Job and have seen the outcome of the Lord’s dealings, that the Lord is full of compassion and is merciful.
Overall, you post smacks of ignorance and shows you in rather poor light. To me, you are a laughing stock and that a disgrace to my fellow Indians.
Raja says
Sorry for the typo:
2203 should read 2003.
and
Overall, you post smacks of ignorance and shows you in rather poor light. To me, you are a laughing stock and that a disgrace to my fellow Indians.
Should read : Overall, your post smacks of …
gravenimage says
+1
Walter Sieruk says
When Franklin Graham declared that Allah and the Christian God “are not the same” he was speaking from the Light and information found in the Bible.
For example ,the scholar as well as author, Nabeel Qureshi of the book entitled ANSWERING JIHAD who in the past was a Muslim but now a Christian had explained clearly that god of Islam is not the God of the Bible. For on page 113 in his book he informs the reader that “Islam roundly condemns worship of the Trinity [5:73], establishing in contrast its own core principle of Tawhid, the absolute oneness of God. Tawhid emphatically denies the Trinity; so much that it is safe to say the doctrine of God in Islam is antithetical to the doctrine of God in Christianity. Not just different but opposed.” Further on page 116 he elaborates that “Tawhid is antithetical to the Trinity, fundamentally incompatible and only similar superficially and semantically, Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God.” Therefore it’s fitting then to make a reiteration of the following essay on this very important subject.
There are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” pastors, who have made the outstanding claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God.
As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
KWJ says
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Simply put, the Gods are different and command different things just as Jesus in the Qur’an is not the same Jesus as in the Bible. A God shouldn’t have multiple personality disorder. If Allah commands that there he only Islam, that Christians and Jews should be subjugated, that Islam will “break the cross” as it says in the Qur’an, one is not worshipping the same God nor prophets. There’s no need to overthink any of it nor is even shirk necessary to mention.
If it were the same God Christians, Jews and Muslims worship then the Islamic God wouldn’t be hateful to Christians and Jews, and all other unbelievers. The stories of the Prophets are different, the societal rules are different…I mean, it’s just silly for people to say that Muslims worship the same God as Jews and Christians. Islam’s reasoning is that Jews and Christians had it all wrong and Muhammad is the last prophet and whatever Allah told him is correct. Thus Allah made everything and everyone, everyone was born Muslim and all non-Muslims were led astray from the “right path” and lied in the Torah and Bible. “We worship the same God” is merely Islamic supremacist thinking is all. No one of a rational and logical mind would think that. To me it’s actually a sneer and put down as the Qur’an confirms.
So, you have to question why Muslims keep saying this even though it makes them look stupid. There are many things underneath the veneer of da’wa that are insulting other faiths with their twisty religious logic that isn’t logical unless you blindly accept it. Islam makes liars out of Muslims, though some don’t really know it, and it screws up their reasoning faculties.
Anyhow, Muhammad wanted to conquer places, wanted the world to submit to Islam, at least by the End Days, jihad/expansionism was his deal to enrich himself and his ego. The rest is all rituals and rules (the sharia).
The Pope is giving ideological cover to Islam and hence it won’t modernize to the degree that Christians and Jews, on the whole, have. Islam is incompatible with modernity, plurality, self-determination and critical analysis. Laws against apostasy and blasphemy are two glaring examples of a refusal to allow free-thinking. Shame on the Pope for not calling out the truth and enabling Islam/Muslims to make people miserable.
“Good fences make good neighbors.” as poet Robert Frost said.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
What Muslims call Jihad , holier than thou christians call evangelizing / upliftment / democracyEEE / human rights ……That is all.
I have simplified it. Hindus have first hand knowledge of both.
Elisha says
“But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity.” – Micah 5:2
I wonder how the prophet Micah knew that 700 years before Christ?
nam marine says
Too many letters in your name pal. Obviously you are full of shit!
gravenimage says
It seems the increasingly appalling Janakiraman Rajalakshmi considers democracy and human rights the same as Jihad slaughter. *Good God*.
WPM says
Janakiraman Rajalaksmi wants to return to the good all days of throwing the widows on the burning funeral pile of her dead husband, the caste system, and other goodies of the past he thinks human rights and free speech are for softies. He compares Christian preachers who try to preach their religion, to Jihads who kill for their religion .When was the last time a Christian group or person said Jesus is greater in any language and went on a killing rampage in India? When was the last time a Christian preacher call for killing the unbelievers from the pulpit ? When was the last time any Christian leader called on Christians to murder adulterers ,homosexuals , Jews ,Hundis , and people of other faiths?
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
This is what is called ”atrocity literature” assiduously churned out by christian DEVILS .
I am sure you are doing the same with Muslims & ISLAM.
Thank God , Muslims have seen through you & hitting back.
All of us know what ”deep state” means. Christian DEVILS’ mission is to engineer troubles all over the world & keep selling their weapons. Sale of weapons is one of the main sources of income for you. Rest of the things are junk burgers , kentucky fried chicken etc etc , vaccines , diseases unleashing drugs. Christian devils manufacture various diseases. Which necessitates setting up of hospitals etc. Aid agencies are but evangelicals .
Watch Hollywood movie ” The Quiet American” ( Graham Greene’s story) to get a clear insight into christian devils’ ideas of democracyee , health care , upliftment blah blah.
Lots & lots of Hindus are living in Islamic Countries. We are happy & SAFE. Not facing any persecution AT ALL. Governance is EXCELLENT. I have no complaints against them.
God BLESS ARABS !! They are already BLESSED . Which is why they are GOOD.
The trouble makers are the christians. INDISPUTABLY. It is the christians who frenziedly erect churches all over. Most are vacant. It is the converted christian (indian) DEVILS who are stealthily & overtly evangelizing many WITHIN these Islamic countries too.
Svami Dayananda a Vedic BrahmaGyani ( many christians & jews have always been flocking to His various Ashrams allegedly to ”learn” Vedanta…) wrote an open letter to vatican polish john paul ii . Thae arrogant devil poop did not answer but screamed to his rabid followers
” go & plant the cross all over Asia & harvest the souls”. Then came equally wily ratzinger.
Christian devils gave orders to their agents in India to ”arrest & incarcerate” Kaanchi Ssankaracharya.
NO Muslim , no Chinaman did that to Hindus’ SEER.
It is the christian DEVILS’ who did it. And are relentlessly troubling us.
The converted christian DEVIL called samuel rajasekara reddy who was the CM of AP obedient follower of catholic antonio maino (alias sonia ghandy) of congress dynasty giving orders for The SEER’s ” arrest” subsequently got incinerated in a plane crash leaving antonio maino visibly distraught.
WPM says
Yes modern hospitals ,modern medicine are bad, keep drinking the camel piss and dunking those flies in your drink you convert. What Moslem major countries are Hindis flocking to live as first class citizens?? Yes polio vaccines are bad ,the open sewages in the streets of many third world countries {including India} and lack of clean drinking water have nothing to do with many diseases. Yes democracy is bad lets all live under Sharia law were women fear of being rape, you can have four wives, you can have slaves ,try to down play the terrorist attacks done in India by Moslems and all the “A” bombs pointed at your country from Pakistan. The 80 million Hindis kill before the West or Christians had anything to do with India a thousand years ago The ongoing unrest at the India Pakistan borders .Yes Pope Paul II when he was Pope control your countries leaders what tin foil hat are you wearing ,along with Pope” Ratziger ” who order the arrest in India?? of” Kaanchi Ssankaracharya “is that how you spell his name?
thebigW says
I notice this “Jana” guy (sorry can’t read his name on the taxi cab meter) clams up real quiet when folks here bring up how the Muslims slaughtered his Hindu people by the millions. Guess he knows who his REAL masters are, eh.
gravenimage says
Is Janakiraman Rajalakshmi fine with Muslims having slaughtered 80 million Hindus, centuries of oppression, and destroying countless Hindu temples? It sure sounds like it.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
There is a hell of a lot of televangelism in various Indian tv channels. Indescribably hideous & horrendous to say the least. Full of fake ”healings”. Mass sodomy . rapes cutely called ” sexual abuses” routinely take place in christian run orphanages , schools hostels etc.
THAT is ”christian compassion”.
Elisha says
Where did Jesus command such things? Making mistakes in the exam doesn’t invalidate the subject matter. You need a lesson in logic and theology.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
//Where did Jesus command such things?//
You are asking me ? Ask the Hindus what your evangelical agents are doing within India.
All the world over mass genocides have been perpetrated by christians.the bible thumpers.
Kepha says
Yes, I suppose it’s pretty embarrassing when the Scheduled Tribes turn to a religion that tells them they don’t have to become Untouchable Castes; or that others see there is a divine grace greater than inexorable Kharma.
Elisha says
“You are asking me ?”
Yes, as you purport to know so much. Clearly you confuse your babble with facts and the ability to answer simple questions.
Carol the 1st says
There was a petition to ban Franklin Graham from entering the UK to speak at his own Sept. ’18 Blackpool Festival. Virtue-signalers demanded this due to his supposed HATE SPEECH on the matters of Islam, homosexuality, and gay marriage.
The petition did not succeed and we can envision them standing forlornly by while their new muslim friends and co-citizens wander off to perhaps find someone “gay” to throw off a building. The sad irony of it all.
https://www.premier.org.uk/News/UK/Franklin-Graham-says-bus-ad-ban-backfired-as-thousands-head-to-Blackpool-to-hear-him-preach
CogitoErgoSum says
There is no doubt that there are Christians who fail to follow all of the teachings of Christ. Those who commit fraud and who rape and abuse children are certainly not living a Christian life. Look more closely into the words of the Bible and you will see. As for the evangelists on television, are you not able to change the channel or turn off your tv sets in India? Will mobs of Christians come to put you to death if you do? If that is so, the media here in the U.S. are failing to report it.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Why would media in US report it ?
All the money for evangelizing is coming from various christian countries. It is the catholic church which is the largest land owner in India. Followed by other denominations.
India is very much a christian colony. Education , curriculum Hindus Temples virtually everything is under the vicious control of christians.
// Those who commit fraud and who rape and abuse children are certainly not living a Christian life//
All christians are pathetic clones. This is exactly what vatican poop blabbered. When many victims of rape & sodomy ( Philadelphia , Ireland , Australia ) narrated the horrendous conduct of christian papacy the poop said ” Jeeesusss up above is weeping for you”.
CogitoErgoSum says
I think the media in the U.S. and all over the world just love to report on stories that make Christians look bad. As for what the Pope has to say, well, I heard him say only that he was not going to say anything and that the media should do its job. Okay, that’s fine – as long as the media feels that its job is to report the truth and it that it is NOT its job to persuade me to think in a certain manner they prefer, You should be free to think and say what you like also. But, are you certain that everything you are saying is the truth? I am not so certain that it is so I will continue to look for other sources of the truth. I hope you will do the same.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Indian media itself is largely owned by various christian organizations. Hence they churn out negative news about India. They know what christians are gluttonously y craving for & serve you precisely that in ample quantities.
CogitoErgoSum says
The only thing anyone should crave “gluttonously” is the truth.
Rumplestiltskin says
The interpretations of what is God can be done so any numerable amount of ways because humanity is diverse in its interpretations of what this reality is and how it is constructed. those why want those two Gods to be differented are basically dividing it into Black and White, which is the duality we all live under.
THERE WERE AND ARE GODS BUT THEY ARE NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE THEM TO BE !
So stop arguing like children over whose God is better or more friendly. This is also proof that only children fight over such idiocies as: “My god is better than your god, my god is better than yours… Yada, yada yada……
These two factions, Christianity and Islam need to stop pretending that they have the best interest of humanity in mind. Neither do because both believe that having a God to bow down to is the height of subservience, like we are supposed to be slaves to an outdated intellectual paradigm.
We must ask ourselves; Do we still need Gods to govern our lives or can we do it appropriately by ourselves, or are our animal tendencies in the way.of our grasping just what this reality is !
Elisha says
“We must ask ourselves; Do we still need Gods to govern our lives or can we do it appropriately by ourselves, or are our animal tendencies in the way.of our grasping just what this reality is !”
LOL!! Secular humanist animals (acting out in TRUE accordance with their beliefs) have slaughtered over 200 million humans in LESS than a century. This, from your grand poobah of atheistic buffoonery:
“The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows, nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music”. – Richard Dawkins [River Out Of Eden]
If the essence of our physicality “neither knows, nor cares”, explain how your worldview accounts for morality and reason.
Here’s a cluebat:
http://www.jasonlisle.com/2012/05/17/on-the-origin-of-articles/#more-97
Just keep whacking yourself until you wake up.
CogitoErgoSum says
The God in whom I believe would bow down and wash my feet clean for me. I do not think it wrong if I sometimes bow to Him. That is called love and and it is the music to which I choose to dance.
gravenimage says
It seems that Rumplestiltskin considers love and mass murder to be one and the same. Bizarre.
Kepha says
Moderns, with great consternation,
Hate divine predestination!
Economics, we know,
Or our genes run the show
Of our lives; it’s liberation!
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
For the umpteenth time you shed faux tears for ”ST , SC” ”oppressed” & I am too familiar with your spiel.
Prudent economics suggests you richest developpped soooperpoweRRR christian countries take them ALL into your own countries ; thrust FREE bibles ; offer them accommodation in vacant cavernous churches ; look after their health , feed & clothe them , give ”education” blah blah empower them & live happily.
Instead why waste aviation fuel contributing to global warming travel all over with cartons of bibles. The most ludicrous economics. You get the satisfaction of having all the allegedly oppressed repressed scheduled tribes , scheduled castes ( St & SC respectively) & whoever is willing to embrace christianity. We Hindus , Muslims & Chinese can look after ourselves , manage our Countries & resources.
There would be no need to manufacture weapons & sell , no need to engineer wars , strife , famine & various problems .
Instead it is the sight of you christian DEVILS all over Temples , all over India that is unacceptable to me.
India has long become a christian colony. From the beginning of Dec itself airport lounges are full of christian garbage like xmas trees , stars etc strewn everywhere. Please confine such christian garbage to your GODDAMNED countries. Your useless halloween , birthday celebrations , cup cakes blah blah – there is nothing Spiritual whatsoever . It is another way of profligacy…
Hindu Dharmam does NOT advocate such ridiculous orgies & debauchery.
Ralph says
John 14:6…don’t miss out!
Carol the 1st says
Is it non-“profligate” or simply Sado-Masochistic to favor the practices listed below?:
Woman-beating/acid-attacking/female roasts on funeral pyres/endless ”holy’ bloodbaths and extermination for those not of your creed/rape and coercion of the dependent or vulnerable/toying with children/selling out your daughters as child brides”/brainwashing your children toward violence and bigotry/making a time-wasting mockery of “prayer”/deceiving other successful humans in a constant effort to avoid facing yourselves and the tremendous shortcomings of your own cultural swamps…
Oops! Excuse me, but the timer just rang for the cupcakes for the church social!
Dan from ohio says
Allah the name has been traced backwards using the bible,what we find is the current name Allah was first called Lucifer ,in the garden.
nam marine says
There is NO way the God of the Bible and their clown are the same. Our God and his Son…the Christ are of love. Not hate and death like their Islam monkey!
Bring back the Crusades and end this for once and for all !
Islam is of Satan !!!
Walter Sieruk says
To further confirm the truth of the statement by Franklin Graham to be one hundred percent right when he said that “Allah and the Christian God are not the same.” is further shown valid and true are the following two essays .
First, .the God of the Bible is not really Allah the god of Islam. To explain, through the passing of time it has become widely accepted that the word “Allah” is just the Arabic word for God. This started when truth compromising Bible “translators” substituted the word Allah where the word God should have had been uses in the Arabic translation of the Bible. Furthermore, in the glossary in the book ASSASSINS! By Dr. Haha Lung it defines Allah as the “Pre-Islamic Lunar god : the god of Islam. “ Likewise, in the book entitled INSIDE ISLAM by a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Reza F. Safa on pages 22, 23 it reads “In pre-Islamic times both Allah –worship and Baal-worship involved the worship of the sun, the moon and the stars which h defines them as astral religions. [Which are condemned in the Bible, Second Kings 23:5] The crescent moon, which was the symbol of moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam.” In conclusion the Islamic god, Allah, is not the God of the Bible.
The words in brackets are my own. In addition other some other books that expose this little known truths are WHO IS THIS ALLAH ? by G..J.O.. Moshay also UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Emir Fethi Caner and THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey . There is also PHILISTINE by Ramon Bennett and ANSWERING JIHAD by Mabeel Qureshi
Second, this reality should be made more clear by keyboarding that …
First, In the Bible it gives the account of the Prophet Elijah declared “If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal be ,then follow him.” First Kings 18:21.[N.K.J.V.] In other words follow one of the other. Not both.
Second, many people say that the God of the Bible and the god of Islam are one the same. Is the majority always right? That’s not always the case. As an example the Christian pastor and scholar, Michael Youssef, who is also an Arab in his book entitled JESUS, JIHAD AND PEACE on page 69 informs the reader that “The name Allah comes from pre-Islamic times, and it corresponds to the Babylonian mane Bel or Baal. According to the Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped gods they called Allah. Both pre-Islamic Allah-worship and Baal –worship involved worship of the sun, the moon and the stars, which is why they are called astral religions. The crescent moon, the symbol of pagan moon worship, is also the symbol of Islam. It is printed on flags of many Islamic countries and placed atop minarets and mosques.” Likewise, a former Muslim who is now a Christian, Dr. Daniel Shayesteh, who used to live in the Middle East but now he lives in America . In his book ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD. On pages 7,8. Reads “Allah is the generic term for God in many Middle –Eastern cultures. Allah is identified as one of the 360 or so idols worshiped by the Arabian people for centuries before Muhammad was born. Many do not know that Allah was the good god of the Arabians. This explains the crescent moon found on minarets and mosques and the flags of Muslim nations. .. .Historic writings also identify Allah with Baal.” It’s also worth mentioning that the Bible condemns such astral religions. As in, for example, Second Kings 23:5.
Therefore, now in modern times, it may be rightly said “If Yahweh Lord of the Bible , be the one True God follow Him. Yet if Allah the lord of Islam be the one true god then follow him.” The case is very clear cut.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
@FYI ,
You are only repeating what many Hindus know.
It is the hypocrisy & double standards of christians that is amusing. Christians are as predatory & violent as the Muslims . So do not fulminate at Muslims. You are not a whit better.
In many ways I find Arabs are not that bad as hyperbolized by christians. I have been living in one such country for many years & I do hold them in esteem. Far far superior to rotten politicians of India. Arabs & Muslims have no anti Brahmin animosities.
It is christians who are incurably afflicted with venomous hatred towards Brahmins. They have coined a word called ”casteism” which came from portugese christian barbarians when they brought in their Inquisitions. It persists till date.
Muslims are NOBLER.
CogitoErgoSum says
So you would say it is more noble to collect the jizya than to pay it?
Mark Swan says
JanakiramanRajalakshmi
You seem to be either insincere or a Muslim convert.
Here, below, is just a few examples of what intelligent people,
throughout time, have said, these, do have a clear idea of
what Muslims think of Indians who are not Muslims.
The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man.
It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity
but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation.
For those who are outside the corporation,
there is nothing but contempt, slavery and enmity.
– Dr.B.R. Ambedkar
Indian jurist, economist, politician and social reformer.
Religious harmony is a desirable thing. But it takes two to play the game.
Unfortunately such a sentiment holds no position in Islamic theology.
– Ram Swarup
Independent Hindu thinker and prolific author.
An extremely large percentage of Muslims in South Asia today are
the progeny of forcible conversions and systematic rape campaigns
by marauding Muslim invaders.
– Dr. Younis Shaikh
Pakistani medical doctor, human rights activist and freethinker.
The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history.
It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a
precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture
and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading
from without or multiplying within.
– Will Durant
American writer, historian, and philosopher.
FYI says
Sorry,Mr Hindu troll,did you miss the 80 million dead Hindus.
You seem to have great difficulty understanding the concept of the deliberate,calculated,islamic mass-murder of the followers of your religion
And BTW,Jews and Christians are rated in islam WAY ABOVE Hindus..
“muslims are nobler”.Wow!
In islam you Hindus …..you don’t even count!!
Perhaps you should convert to islam:you appear to tick all the boxes…
gravenimage says
So Janakiraman Rajalakshmi believes that peaceful preaching and running orphanages are as violent as launching 34,000+ murderous Jihad terror attacks?
And it sounds as though he actually prefers to be oppressed in Dar-al-Islam than to live in democratic India.
And the claim that Muslims are not anti-Hindu is just bizarre. Pious Muslims despise Hindus.
It seems that his main desire is that he be allowed to continue to in turn oppress untouchables. Few Hindus actually think this way.
That he considers Hindu-hating Muslims to be “noble” is just appalling.
somehistory says
He defends like a “convert.”
gravenimage says
I had considered that as well, Somehistory. He sounds like one.
Carol the 1st says
Muslim saying: “There’s nothing a slave likes better than to have a slave of his own.”
Keys says
“Muslims are NOBLER” ?
How so ? Is it because muslims consider themselves to be the best of people, better than non-muslims ? Is that not similar to the Brahmins who consider themselves better than others ?
Carol the 1st says
“Stick and the carrot” for Moe’s donkeys (and they still bray proudly).
WPM says
Yes the Moslems have been very noble to you Indians over the last 69 years ,they have treated the few remaining Hindis with respect and honor in Pakistan .There is much love and honor between Pakistan and India because Islam is a very loving in its respect and honor to people of the Hindi religion right Janakiram Rajalakami .There are many Hindi Indians in America that do very well and seem happy to live in a country that has a majority of people with Christian background or belief. I do not see many Hindi people wanting to move to Moslem majority lands ,I can see why.
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
It is really very simple. The God of Christians is the True God. The “god” of moslims is a fake god, a false god, one who only aspires to be god…satan the devil.
satan has made countless people throughout the history of mankind…since the encounter with Eve in the Garden of Eden…listen to his voice and believe what he says. He has convinced countless millions to worship him.
satan the devil even tried to get Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of the One Living and True God, to “bow down and do an act of worship” to him. Jesus refused; as have millions of others before and after Jesus…in the Nation of Israel and down to today in many nations.
It’s a choice. Anyone who examines the facts can see for themselves that islam worships a false god…satan the devil. Christians worship the True God Jehovah, through His Son, Jesus Christ.
gravenimage says
Franklin Graham: Allah and the Christian God are “not the same”
……………………
Spot on!
FYI says
Yes.
The islamic koranic allah{“the best of deceivers” k3:54} is NOT the Judeo-Christian Biblical God:this is the KEY to understanding islam.
allah is violently antisemitic,antiChristian,misogynistic:he is also theologically,scientifically and linguistically challenged.
A god who can only be spoken to in 1 language.
A god who thinks Christians are polytheists because he can’t understand the Theology of the Trinity
A god who doesn’t get Irony:he CURSES the Jews{but Moses and Jesus are Jews}
Jews and Christians are really in the SAME Biblical fold:islam,given that it CURSES Jews AND Christians{koran 9:30} is outside the Biblical fold.
allah teaches muslims in his koran contrary to the Exodus 20 laws:of course he
also missed the essential 2 chief laws of Love.Koran 5 v 51 is in direct violation of God’s 2nd chief commandment.So there is no Golden Rule,no “love thy neighbor” in islam.allah couldn’t be bothered!
The God {of Israel,of Moses,of David}is the REAL DEAL.
Christians believe The God of Israel is also linked via a connection between David and Jesus.
muslims don’t get this but allah is really the god of Goliath:the Biblical God is the God of David.
muslims can “pray” to allah all they want,but as with Goliath,it won’t end well since allah is “the best of deceivers”.
That is why one can have supreme confidence in the God of Israel and His prophetic promises given{Joel 3}:seriously,it is the ENEMIES of Israel that are in trouble but of course muslims cannot see that.
Keys says
Persuasive points, FYI.
If only Allah had not said that he was the “best of deceivers”, he could have deceived many more souls.
But his pride and arrogance got the best of him again.
Renate says
Gold bless Rev. Franklin Graham!
Renate says
(Sorry, that’s meant to read God, not Gold.)
gravenimage says
+1
Renate says
God bless Rev. Franklin Graham!
Carol the 1st says
Great to see those Baptists pull through!
Carol the 1st says
Bill Warner, PhD: The Doctrine of Cowards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4WmBonQzc
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Rev Graham must be an ignorant idiot. Even mithraist christian debaters now are no longer denying that Allah is the same God who created the universe as stated in Genesis of the Old Testament when they realised that that theory of Allah as moon-god is nonsense because Christians and Jews in Arabia before Islam referred to the supreme creator of all as Allah and it is stated explicitly in the Quran that Allah created moon and sun and Allah alone shall be worshiped . mithraist christian debaters only insist that Jesus is divine son of God and he was God or part of God and Holy Spirit making one God,which Muslims reject as pagan idea not truly taught by Jesus. Some Jews before Islam believed that Ezra was the divine son of God because he died for 100 years and was resurrected and re-wrote the Torah, but the belief referred in the Quran in sura 4 vanished for long and Jews are no longer holding that belief described in the Quran in sura 4,but keep changing the scriptures where they have what is called “Rabbaical laws “,including obnoxious Talmud to satisfy their evil minds.
Ignorant Rev could not even understand that the terrorist groups are holding perverted interpretations of Islamic sources to justify their evil actions carrying out indiscriminate killings of civilian population prohibited under the Sharia rules of engagement .their actions has nothing to do with jihad fighting, which is a means of resistance against oppression and self-defence. Graham cannot deny the fact that mithraist churchmen carried out genocide killings of Muslims ànd Jews during crusade wars and in Spain, extermination of the original inhabitants of Americas by white mithraist christians, killing more than half of world Jews by mithraist christian Nazis, 15% of Algerians killed by French mithraist christians during brutal colonisation and attempt to annex algeria into France and many more atrocities being committed by mithraist christians in the name of Jesus. To say mithraist christians are peace loving people because the New Testament teaches them to love their neighbours and turn another chick to be slapped is just a myth,they carry atrocities pursuant to mithraist pagan Bible inspired by the satan, especially samuel 15:3 and book of Numbers 31:17. the evil Zionists have been carrying out mass killings of Palestinians pursuant to obnoxious Talmud whose dictates form the state policy for fascist evil Zionist State of Israel.
allahscum says
I think if you want to have a great neighbor you people may start by not wanting your neighbor dead.
Jay says
And you are a servant of the devil who hates Christians and Jews.
There are many names for God in the Bible such as Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.. and Not one reference in all of the Bible to Allah. The word Allah is not even in the Bible. Baal and Moloch are listed as idols and pagan Gods like Allah, but the word Allah is not there.
When Muslims get tired of killing Christians and Jews and when enslaving other Muslims no longer satifies their blood lust, Muslims begin killing each other. Sunni Muslims are killing Shiite Muslims daily all over the world. Muslims don’t know peace because they have rejected Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace.
Franklin Graham is spot on when he says that the god of Islam is NOT the God of Christianity.
The place where Graham is incorrect is when he says that there are peaceful Muslims. He knows better than that. Muslims murder wherever they go just like their father the devil who was a liar and a murderer from the beginning. Jesus said so. And when Jesus comes back, it’s going to be hell for all those who reject the Son of God. Literally.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrore:
Rev Graham must be an ignorant idiot. Even mithraist christian debaters now are no longer denying that Allah is the same God who created the universe as stated in Genesis of the Old Testament
…………………….
Actually, the savage “Allah” has *nothing* in common with the loving God of the Gospels. Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that a loving God is “the Satan”.
More stupidity:
Some Jews before Islam believed that Ezra was the divine son of God because he died for 100 years and was resurrected and re-wrote the Torah…
…………………….
Really, Jews have *never* said that Ezra was the Son of God–this is just more Muslim ignorance of other faiths. But no matter how ignorant they may be, they are eager to slaughter Infidels over their ignorance.
More:
, but the belief referred in the Quran in sura 4 vanished for long and Jews are no longer holding that belief described in the Quran in sura 4,but keep changing the scriptures where they have what is called “Rabbaical laws “,including obnoxious Talmud to satisfy their evil minds.
…………………….
Again, the claim that the Torah and Gospels used to be as savage as the Qur’an, until Jews and Christians “corrupted” their scriptures with things like loving your neighbor.
More:
Ignorant Rev could not even understand that the terrorist groups are holding perverted interpretations of Islamic sources to justify their evil actions carrying out indiscriminate killings of civilian population prohibited under the Sharia rules of engagement .their actions has nothing to do with jihad fighting, which is a means of resistance against oppression and self-defence.
…………………….
Ibrahim itace muhammed has said before that mass slaughter of any Infidels and their rape and enslavement constitute “self defense”.
Elisha says
“Even mithraist christian debaters now are no longer denying that Allah is the same God who created the universe as stated in Genesis of the Old Testament”
Who is the liar, if it is not the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. – 1 John 2:22
Who’s the idiot now?
“when they realised that that theory of Allah as moon-god is nonsense”
LOL!! muslims are PAGANS:
Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, “Rise up yourself, and fall on us; for as the man, so is his strength.” So Gideon arose and killed Zebah and Zalmunna, and took the CRESCENT ORNAMENTS which were on their camels’ necks. – Judges 8:21
In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, headbands, CRESCENT ORNAMENTS – Isaiah 3:18
Then He brought me into the inner court of the LORD’S house. And behold, at the entrance to the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about twenty-five men WITH THEIR BACK TO THE TEMPLE of the LORD and THEIR FACES TOWARDS THE EAST; and they were PROSTRATING THEMSELVES EASTWARD TOWARD THE SUN. – Ezekiel 8:16
Pagan islam – the Black Stone:
And when the city clerk had quieted the crowd, he said: “Men of Ephesus, what man is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is temple guardian of the great goddess Diana, and of the image which fell down from Zeus? – Acts 19:35
Pagan islam will be destroyed:
Deal with them as with Midian,
As with Sisera,
As with Jabin at the Brook Kishon,
Who perished at En Dor,
Who became as refuse on the earth.
Make their nobles like Oreb and like Zeeb,
Yes, all their princes like ZEBAH AND ZALMUNNA,
Who said, “Let us take for ourselves
The pastures of God for a possession.” – Psalm 83:9-12
The Lord ALSO WILL ROAR FROM ZION,
And utter His voice from Jerusalem;
The heavens and earth will shake;
But the Lord will be a shelter for His people,
And the strength of the children of Israel.
“So you shall know that I am the Lord your God,
Dwelling in Zion My holy mountain.
Then Jerusalem shall be holy,
And no aliens shall ever pass through her again.” – Joel 3:16-17
“The Lord will SAVE the tents of JUDAH first, so that THE GLORY OF THE HOUSE OF DAVID and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem shall not become greater than that of Judah. In that day the Lord will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the Lord before them. It shall be in that day that I WILL SEEK TO DESTROY ALL THE NATIONS THAT COME AGAINST JERUSALEM. And I WILL POUR ON THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND on the inhabitants of JERUSALEM THE SPIRIT OF GRACE and supplication; THEN THEY WILL LOOK ON ME WHOM THEY PIERCED. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.” – Zechariah 12:7-10
So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH , THE ROOT OF DAVID, HAS PREVAILED to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.” – Revelation 5:4-5
PRAISE THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST!!!
Jay says
Islam wants peace about like Adolph Hitler wanted peace. A piece of Hungary, a piece of Israel, a piece of America, a piece of Poland, a piece of England, a piece of Germany and Yugoslavia, a piece of Russia and a piece of Belgium and France for starters.
Yep, Muslims want piece alright.
Jay says
As usual, the Pope has and is leading much of the world straight to an eternal lake of fire in hell where they will never get out. He is of his father the devil also.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Jay, Rev Jay Smith in one of his debates with Dr shabir Ally from Canada conceded that Allah is the supreme creator of all, but insisted Jesus was the divine son of God and God himself together with Holy Spirit forming One God, which Dr Ally debunked. watch the debate to be found on YouTube. So, you and liar Gravenimage are suffering from mental delusion unable to understand even what is obvious. Fools!!
gravenimage says
The claim that the savage “Allah” has anything in common with the loving God of the Bible is just absurd.
Kepha says
I hope many here recognize that not all Christian leaders have fallen for the recite-the-Qur’an-in-church heresy that infects people like the Pope and the Abp. of Canterbury.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
“Jews, Christians and others are to be subdued so that Islam may ‘prevail over all religions,’” he added. “It’s all in the final chapter of the Quran—‘Kill or be killed in battle, and paradise awaits,’” [Rev. Graham] said.
At what madrassah did Rev. Graham learn his Islam? The final chapter of the Quran, chapter 114, says no such thing. Its six verses say, “Say, ‘I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, the sovereign of mankind, the God of mankind, from the evil of the retreating whisperer, who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind, from among the jinn and mankind.'” See
https://www.quran.com/114
CogitoErgoSum says
Mark, I wondered about that too. I think Graham is probably referring to Sura 9 which, if the Suras were to be listed in chronological order, would be second to last. In particular he may be thinking of verses 9:29 and 9:111.
thebigW says
Mark is wrong, chapter 114 is not “the last”. 110 is the last, chapter 9 is second to last. I can forgive Rev. Graham for calling the second to last “the final” chapter, especially when he gets the more important part dead on right, you know, the we need to be killed part.
Dave says
Unlike Pope John Paul II, this pope will most certainly be part of the fulfillment of the prophesies of Fatima. One that day he will be filled with regret.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
ALLAH is a Sanskrit word. It means MOTHER.
gravenimage says
No, Allah is Arabic, and means “the god” (al-Lah).
The Sanskrit word for mother is “Amba” or “Amma”, not “Allah”.
Mark Swan says
Thank you gravenimage.
ronyvo says
Thank you Mr. Graham, people need very much to be told THE TRUTH, which is so ignored and twisted like never before. Satan is working hard and Islam is his most powerful tool.
Please, keep the excellent work’
May our Lord Jesus Christ the ONLY God bless you.
WPM says
Allah is an ancient Arabic word you dote ,many hard core Islamic imams believe the Koran can only be understood in Arabic they always throw that out at debates with non -Moslem non Arabic speakers at debates.
gravenimage says
+1
ronyvo says
Yes WPM, but when they debate with Arabic speakers they lose and badly so. There are now tons of Arabic speakers, in the West, who are coming forward and debate the corrupt Islam. Don’t forget the X-Arab Muslims, who are excellent debaters and always win the debate easily, I listen to many of them.
As I said many times since 9/11, ISLAM IS ON LIFE SUPPORT. It took longer than I thought, butt it is definitely coming, that is the end of Islam.
fred says
It is pretty obvious that the God worshiped by all three of the monotheisms is eerily similar as Dawkins points out, “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
And where do the writers of the Quran ‘steal’ their God from… yep – you guessed it – The Old Testament. So, Graham is just flat-out wrong. He arrogantly asserts that his favorite”God’ is actually real with no proof at all, so all magical-thinking religious people need to remember you have the same evidence of the Biblical God’s existence as Zeus, Apollo, Thor, or any of the thousands of Deities that humans ever invented… ZERO!
Ralph says
WOW!!…Some day you will get a chance to explain all that to Him.
CogitoErgoSum says
Don’t forget the story about God and Elijah in 1 Kings:19:1-13. What’s up with that? The most unpleasant character in all of fiction has a wee small voice? Now that’s really scary.
gravenimage says
There is nothing in Islam about “love thy neighbor as thyself”.