No Western country should bend its laws and abandon its principles in order to appease anyone or to suit any religious sensibilities at the expense of its women and girls. And yet this is not happening in Germany alone; many Western countries are increasingly adopting a two-tier legal system, allowing for a harmful accommodation of Sharia norms.
“German Supreme Court Rejects Anti-Child Marriage Law as Unconstitutional,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart,December 26, 2018:
The German Federal Supreme Court has made a new ruling on a child marriage case which could have implications on the way child marriages conducted legally overseas are treated in the country.
The ruling comes from a case involving a Syrian man who was separated from his underage “wife” when the pair arrived in Germany as asylum seekers in August 2015, Die Welt reports.
The pair, cousins, were married in February 2015 while the man was aged 21 and the girl aged only 14 in a marriage procedure that was done under sharia legally in Syria but was considered invalid by German authorities where the marriage age was 16 at the time.
After his “wife” had been taken into separate care due to her status as a minor, the Syrian man complained to German courts which initially granted him weekend access to her with a district court claiming the marriage had not been forced.
The case was then sent up to the Federal Supreme Court which has now ruled that the marriage between the pair should be examined on the basis of its legal status in Syria. Such cases in the future should be looked at on an individual basis, the court said, instead of a blanket refusal to recognise them — as was the procedure previously.
In Germany, protection of marriage and family are enshrined in the Basic Law, as well as the principle of equal treatment, and both could be violated under the ban on child marriages…..
Michael Copeland says
In Iran the legal age of marriage is nine lunar years, that is, eight years nine months (Civil Code no.1041).
This was inxtituted by Ayatollah Khomeini, who himself married a bride aged ten. In Pakistan imam Fall Haque Amini claims to have 200,000 jihadis ready to rise up and defend by force the marriage age of nine lunar years against any proposed change.
Will Germany recognise a wife aged eight years nine months?
Increment by increment Western laws are being eroded by Sharia, with the complicity of politicians and the judiciary, none of whom is versed in Sharia law.
revereridesagain says
There will be those of more than one religious persuasion ready to sacrifice the physical and mental health of those girls to the pregnancies resulting from their rape by their “husbands”. At least they should have the compassion to demand that they be of age when they declare that their rights have been superseded.
mortimer says
WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN NOT TO BE RAPED BY OLD MEN ???
German judges responsible for this decision should be forced to watch PEDOPHILIA MOVIES UNTIL THEY REALIZE THE HORROR OF THIS DECISION !!!
katherine says
The German judges would love it – they can’t sign up for Islam soon enough.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Legal Expert: European Court Ruling Could Open Door to Sharia in EU”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/28/legal-expert-european-court-ruling-open-door-sharia-europe/
gravenimage says
Scary.
mortimer says
I predict this will be a tipping point in German. Merkel said Islam is part of Germany. Well, guess what? Pedophilia is not a part of Germany. The Germans are going to stop this charade now.
James Lincoln says
Mortimer,
Merkel actually said “Islam belongs to Germany.”
At the present rate, Germany will soon belong to Islam.
Lavéritétriomphera says
We must not forget ex-Muslims https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7P7g8H47QkM.
Ren Ostertag says
Great video – listened to it just now!
Westman says
In applying Occam’s Razor to what is happening in Europe, it seems that Europe’s Elite have decided that the path to permanently ending wars between European nations is to lure them through economic promise, de-unify the cultures through foreign injection(and culture like underage marriage), and then force them to remain, in a single state, the EU. It appears to be the Walmart Model – kill the competition with the economy of size. Next stop, world government under the UN?
What they have ignored, glaringly, is they are trading occasional national war for eventual civil war between cultural factions that never ends. Imagine what would happen to reticent states if Juncker and Merkel had an EU army at their disposal.
The crystal ball seems to predict that Europe is inheriting the instability of the Middle East and the fuse is being lit by uncontrolled Muslim migration.
mortimer says
Westman, thanks for the astute analysis and analogies… Will the Europeans VOMIT THIS NONSENSE out before it is too late?
Belgium is the latest domino to join the resistance. Will other dominoes fall soon?
eduardo odraude says
They are not trading away occasional national wars — democracies virtually never go to war with each other, and the European states have been solidly entrenched as democracies for many decades. What they are trading away is civil rights, political rights, freedom, peace, and civilization. If the Muslim population in Europe grows large enough, it is the open, creative, free society that is going to corrode or be lost.
eduardo odraude says
Or to sum up, it is democracy that may in the end be trading away. And in exchange they will get all that comes with Islamic authoritarianism. Stagnation, impoverishment, wars, oppression of women and religious minorities, the end of free speech and the death of freedom of conscience and the crushing of freedom of religion.
Lu says
Yes – very good points. Namely this:
“The crystal ball seems to predict that Europe is inheriting the instability of the Middle East and the fuse is being lit by uncontrolled Muslim migration.”.
There’s no tipping point – all the Germans I have approached so far and opened the topic of uncontrolled immigration with them say the same thing: we need new blood countering our demographic trends.
So no sanity here. They deserve what they are aiming at, voting for and supporting (Merkel). Eine Fuehrerin eine Zukunft.
Sad but that’s just the bare naked reality of today’s Germany – and Western Europe in general.
christianblood says
The pro-islamist, hollywoodized leftists that run the West are very clearly working with the pushers of the islamic Sharee’a rules! Don’t be surprised to see full Sharee’a rules, like public beheadings, amputations, stonings and crucifixions being carried out publicly in Western streets in a decade or two! See sharee’a law in action below:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502079/Saudi-Arabia-s-kingdom-savagery-DOES-Britain-cosy-butchers.html
Indiana Tom says
You mean like in Chechnya?
I see Putin is going to have a big fuzzy muzzie conference with Erdogan and Rouhani as well.
christianblood says
Indiana Tom
No, I mean like Sweden, Germany, UK, France, Canada etc where Christian crosses are considered “offensive” and removed from churches to please muslims and where, as the article above shows, marrying underage girls are allowed…And please understand that the pro-islamist, pro-jihadist, hollywoodized, morally corrupt, LGBTQ-worshiping leftists that run your Western pro-islamist hellholes are totally banned in Russia!!!
Isn’t that why the pro-faggot, pro-islamist and hollywoodized anti-Christ West really, really hate Russia???
BTW, Muslims know their place in Russia and they will be annihilated if they raise their ugly jihadist heads there!
Watch the video below and see how Russian street boys deal with your islamist buddies in Russian streets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukBpPgHQqY0
Ernie says
All I see here is some Russian ” faggots ” – foreplay , ” christianblood “. I really wonder where your strong fascination with homosexuality comes from ” christianblood “.
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
The pro-islamist, hollywoodized leftists that run the West are very clearly working with the pushers of the islamic Sharee’a rules!
Indiana Tom replied:
You mean like in Chechnya?
christianblood replied:
Indiana Tom
No, I mean like Sweden, Germany, UK, France, Canada etc…
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christianblood has done this before–either refused to acknowledge that–as Indiana Tom notes–the Chechnya is operating under Shari’ah law on Russian soil–or in some cases actually *lauding it*.
As bad as things are in the West with awful stories like the one above, here is no part of the West that is actually operating under Sharia’ah law. Would that this were true of Russia.
And what about child marriage, since this is the story here?
I’m afraid that things are so bad in Chechnya that Muslim authorities are openly flouting Russian law against child marriage:
“Policeman’s Teen Bride Puts Chechen Marital Practices In The Spotlight”
https://www.rferl.org/a/caucausus-report-teen-bride-chechen-marital-practices/27020167.html
This case involves under-age marriage, forced marriage, and polygamy–all things illegal under Russian law, but practiced openly on Russia soil by Muslims.
And here are threats against those who dare expose this violation of Russian law:
“Russia ‘forced marriage’ reporter Milashina flees Chechnya”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32745569
It’s good that Infidel Russian police warned this journalist about the threats to her from Chechen police–but they could or would do nothing to protect her.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32745569
con’t
gravenimage says
con’t
And what is happening in Chechnya is bad enough–but what about those in Russia who are tasked with protecting such girls?
Grimly, nothing good:
“Russian Official Stirs Scandal With Underage Marriage And ‘Shriveled’ Women Remarks”
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-underage-marriage-shriveled-women/27017059.html
He is openly defending child marriage in the Islamic republics–and he’s the official who is supposed to be protecting Russia’s children.
Again, as bad as things have been in parts of the West, we haven’t seen anything like this here.
More:
BTW, Muslims know their place in Russia and they will be annihilated if they raise their ugly jihadist heads there!
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Of course, the claim that Muslims are unable to wage violent Jihad in Russia is quite false. There have been may Jihad terror attacks there, including in Moscow itself.
More:
Watch the video below and see how Russian street boys deal with your islamist buddies in Russian streets
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Of course, the claim that Indiana Tom–a staunch Jihadist–is somehow “buddies” with Jihadists for objecting to child marriage and to Shari’ah in Chechnya makes no sense.
And just because some Russians like brawling with Muslims *does not* protect Russians from either Shari’ah or Jihad there.
Ren Ostertag says
1+ !!!
christianblood says
Ernie
It is not only “LGBTQ” indecency but everything in the West is very bad and is upside down. Political-correctness, destruction of common sense, xtreme satanic feminism, postmodernist materialism, fanatical cultural relativism and radical secular physicalism have very deep roots in the hollywoodized, pro-jihadist West! The video clip below proves what I am talking about. Enjoy it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
christianblood says
gravenimage
In Russia chastity, Christian faith and patriotism is highly honored.
In the West secular fanaticism, “LGBTQ” indecency, islamo-fascism, political-correctness and cultural relativism is deeply worshiped! A big difference! See it below:
https://www.rt.com/russia/319490-chastity-faith-and-patriotism-/
christianblood says
Ernie
No, the street fight is between your islamist buddies and some Russian youth! It is true that your hollywoodized, anti-Christ, pro-jihadist satanic West hates and demonizes Russia because it sticks to its Orthodox Christian values and refuses to accept Western, postmodernist, anti-Christian moral corruption and Western pro-jihadist, pro-LGBTQ agenda! Watch as the Russian leader addresses this same subject in the clip below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4I7Cnpirw8
christianblood says
Graven
Please understand that Christian refugees are now returning to Syria as politically-correct, very weak Europe is flooded with ISIS supporters:
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=12znL76SNlY
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
gravenimage
In Russia chastity, Christian faith and patriotism is highly honored.
In the West secular fanaticism, “LGBTQ” indecency, islamo-fascism, political-correctness and cultural relativism is deeply worshiped! A big difference!
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I can *only* hope that christianblood didn’t bother to read my posts–if not, this is even worse, and he is calling polygamy and child rape *chaste*. Good God…
Certainly, he has *nothing* critical to say about Muslims flouting Russian law and taking part in forced child marriage and child rape.
More:
See it below:
https://www.rt.com/russia/319490-chastity-faith-and-patriotism-/
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This article does not address forced child marriage at all.
Does christianblood consider forcing children to marry old men who are already married to other women “chaste”? He doesn’t say.
(I will leave aside the question of whether this is a solid policy against AIDS at this point as off-topic).
christianblood says
Graven
Please understand that Christian refugees are now returning to Syria as politically-correct, very weak Europe is flooded with ISIS supporters
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/video-christian-refugee-returns-to-syria-because-europe-is-flooded-with-isis-supporters#comments
gravenimage says
Of course I know about this story–my very critical comments are on that thread from the time.
This is definitely a grim story.
It does not address child rape under Shari’ah in Chechnya, though–why is christianblood spamming a random story from last March, instead of addressing this issue?
I think I just answered my own question, sadly.
christianblood says
gravenimage
When Putin was smashing terrorists in Chechnya two decades ago, all the US and Western pro-islamist societies and governments were demonizing Putin and Russia for doing so! Do you remember that Graven???
The CIA and MI6 were even covertly helping the Chechnyan jihadists!
Now the Chechnyan federal state is stabilized and Chechnyans rule their internal affairs largely and they are allowed to follow their religion as long as they are not practicing SaudiArabian/ISIS style of barbarity that that US wholeheartedly supports! Could u give me, prove me of Chechnyan region practicing public stonings, beheadings and crucifixions like your Saudi/ISIS buddies do daily in public???
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
gravenimage
When Putin was smashing terrorists in Chechnya two decades ago, all the US and Western pro-islamist societies and governments were demonizing Putin and Russia for doing so! Do you remember that Graven???
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Actually, Putin had not taken power in Russia two decades ago–almost, but his dictatorship doesn’t stretch back quite *that* far.
So no–Putin was only involved with the tail end of the war against Chechnya. He has *certainly* enabled Shari’ah law there ever since, though.
Yes–there was criticism of Russia at the time in some quarters.
But here is US Secretary of State Colin Powell:
While visiting the Pratica Di Mare Air Force Base in Rome, Italy following the recent Moscow summit, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell answered a question concerning how he characterized the war in Chechnya by stating: “With respect to Chechnya, Chechnya is an area of enormous interest to the international community. Russia is fighting terrorists in Chechnya, there is no question about that, and we understand that. But at the same time, we believe that a political solution is really what Russia also needs to find a way to achieve. And we have always said to the Russians that in their prosecution of this campaign against terrorism, they have to make sure that the troops participating in it and other elements of the Russian armed forces and security forces have to meet the highest standards of human rights that one would expect from a civilized country”
https://jamestown.org/program/powell-says-russia-fighting-terrorists-in-chechnya-2/
(note that the date on this article is in error; Powell was US Secretary of State from 2001-2005)
This was the general tenor of the West with regards to Russia re Chechya–that the fight against terrorism was justified, but that some of the tactics were not. This seems overall a pretty reasonable stance to me.
More:
The CIA and MI6 were even covertly helping the Chechnyan jihadists!
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Uh huh…
More:
Now the Chechnyan federal state is stabilized and Chechnyans rule their internal affairs largely and they are allowed to follow their religion as long as they are not practicing SaudiArabian/ISIS style of barbarity that that US wholeheartedly supports! Could u give me, prove me of Chechnyan region practicing public stonings, beheadings and crucifixions like your Saudi/ISIS buddies do daily in public???
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Why does christianblood continue to lie about me, implying that I support Saudi Arabia, including stonings, beheadings, and crucifixions? Anyone even vaguely aware of my posting history know that this is utterly false.
It seems, though, that christianblood is *fine* with Muslims “practicing their religion” when it involves polygamy, child marriage, and forced marriage–note that he *still* will not condemn this, even after being directly asked to do so twice.
And Muslims “practicing their religion” in Chechnya goes beyond this, including wife beating, “Honor Killings”, murdering gay people in concentration camps, and even violently targeting Christians there–christianblood has never said anything critical of *any* of this, despite being asked to on dozens of occasions.
Since he is *hardly* shy about condemning others–often in the most hysterical of terms–one can only assume that he is in agreement with this barbarism.
As for sneering at the idea that Chechnya would carry out stonings or beheadings, note that Criminal Code implemented in the Chechen Republic-Ichkeriya, Article 148 punishes “anal sexual intercourse between a man and a woman or a man and a man”. For first- and second-time offenders, the punishment is caning. A third conviction leads to the death penalty, which can be carried out in a number of ways including *stoning or beheading*.
I don’t believe that these sentences have been carried out yet–but they *are* on the books, and will no doubt be carried out as soon as they are emboldened enough to do so–just as with all other aspects of Shari’ah which they have implemented so far.
As for Chechnya being “stabilized”, I really doubt that there is *anything* stable about Russia having a Shari’ah state flouting Russian law *on Russian soil*.
Ernie says
Yes, “christianblood”, and HEZBOLLAH never murdered Christians in Lebanon ofcourse , Rouhani never supplied and trained Hezbollah , never supported HAMAS , never threatened Israel , and the Russian regime never assisted Iran in any way . And the Iranian Ayatollahs regime is very nice to its own population ofcourse , ” christianblood “. The regime never oppresses , it’s very democratic . The regime never murders people , o dear , only the thought…. Sharia in Iran , they never hang people …..especially homosexuals are never hung in Iran , and SHARIA doesn’t exist in Iran .
, no , the regime is so “civilized “. Much more civilized then those evil Westerners ofcourse . And pigs can fly……….
gravenimage says
+1
christianblood says
Ernie
Your filled up with BS “deep state” imperialist propaganda and lies!
Hezbollah is an indigenous Shiite resistance militia protecting its own people from the evil allies of the US, Saudi Arabia, ISIS and Al-Qaeda!
It is because of Hezbollah that millions of Christians and other minorities in Syria are safe today from the hands of the US, Saudi and Israeli-backed head-chopping jihadists! Hezbollah protects Christians in Syria and Lebanon from the US and Saudi-backed jihadists and thank God for that! Without the presence of Hezbollah, Lebanon would have become like Yemen, Libya or Syria a long time ago!
Watch the telling photos below and see Hezbollah just doing that and I challenge you to show me a similar picture of US and its allies protecting Christians in Syria from the ISIS or Al-Qaeda jihadists!
https://02varvara.wordpress.com/2015/06/12/telling-pictures-of-hezbollah-soldiers/
Ernie says
You just keep on spouting your filthy propaganda . You’re just repeating your lies all the time . YOU ARE ABUSING THIS BLOG AS A PLATFORM FOR RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT PROPAGAGANDA . BEGONE , TROLL !!!!!!!
christianblood says
Ernie
Prove me wrong! Show me the evidence!
According to (thereligionofpeace.com) 34338 deadly islamic terrorist attacks have been carried out since 9/11. Show me a single one of them perpetrated or carried out by Iranians or Hezbollah???
Please understand this: when I say prove me a terrorist attack that was perpetrated by Iran or Hezbollah I mean show me a real terrorist attack like a suicide bombing in a mosque, a cinema, a bar, a church or a school like the one that killed 48 Shiite students in Afghanistan a few days ago! Show me Iranians and Hezbollah members beheading Westerners or Christians or Sunnis on video while screaming allahu akbar! Show me Iranian or Hezbollah terrorists gunning down people in night clubs or bombing trains, or attacking news paper offices and killing journalists, Christians, Yazidis, or tourists, or using vehicles and killing hundreds of civilians as happen in Europe for the past two years or flying planes into buildings! Show me a single one of these proven, verifiable terror attacks perpetrated by Iran or Hezbollah or please SHUT UP and stop spreading some baseless US government propaganda!
Please understand AMERICAN ACCUSATIONS AGAINST IRAN ARE unsubstantiated, politically motivated, malicious lies!!!
christianblood says
Ernie
Thousands of Lebanese Christians and Shiites unite to praise Hezbollah for protecting them against ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US! Go to mark 4:00 to see as the Christian singer (breathtakingly) repeats the words “my beloved ones” as she addresses members of Hezbollah resistance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdZgkGI5h0A
gravenimage says
christianblood has posted this before–showing dhimmis referring to kissing the feet of Muslims–something considered deeply shameful under Islam–and lauding it as showing how very much Christians enjoy being oppressed by Hezb’allah. Very disturbing.
gravenimage says
christianblood continues to spam those photos of Hezb’allah Jihadists supposedly showing respect to Christians–but of course this is not true. They are referring to the Muslim “Jesus”, whose role in Islam is to slaughter Christians in the last days.
How is *that* OK?
No Muzzies Here says
This IS the end of Western Civilization. There is no longer any way to prosecute rape of children, statutory rape, or abuse. Gone. No such thing as “age of consent” any more. Wiped out.
Add to that the silent acceptance of polygamy, and what we had of civilization is blown away by the wind of Islam.
mortimer says
What about protecting little girls from PEDOPHILIA ???
Carolyne says
One of the most basic of human traits is that we protect our young. In fact,
So do most animals. A bird will sacrifice its own life to protect its babies. Most mammals will do the same. Are Germans no longer members of the human race that they sacrifice their own children to barbarians?
FYI says
+100
gravenimage says
Fine post, Carolyne.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Germans have nothing to say about a decision like that (?), they are are too disciplined, in France we would grumble. We are just fed up with authorities who decide for us.
gravenimage says
I’m not sure I would describe this as “discipline”…
Lavéritétriomphera says
Quote by Voltaire : “Where some states have an army, the Prussian Army has a state.”. It seams Germans learn easily how to march.
gravenimage says
I meant that I don’t think that quietly bowing to the enabling of child rape is disciplined.
Lavéritétriomphera says
You are right, but child marriage is not considered as a rape by the German supreme federal court, and the Germans are silent. What concerns us is our neighbors can obey to crazy leaders and the fact they are very disciplined does not help.
However, we can always hope that Germans will respond accordingly to this unacceptable situation.
gravenimage says
I *hope* some decent Germans are protesting this.
Indiana Tom says
The case was then sent up to the Federal Supreme Court which has now ruled that the marriage between the pair should be examined on the basis of its legal status in Syria.
I see Germany just gave up their sovereignty, but they have been doing this for some time now.
jayell says
“…many Western countries are increasingly adopting a two-tier legal system,….”
A two-tier legal system means you’ve effectively got two countries on the same territory. That’s the recipe for civil war. And who’s going to get the blame when it breaks out?
somehistory says
This ruling as unconstitutional was reported on by Gatestone. In that article, are many examples of the courts in Germany deciding cases, not based on German law, but on the moslim code of *when it comes to sex with children anything goes*, and other aspects of islam’s evil code. Some involved “second wives” and inheritance.
Once a country sets aside its legal statutes in favor of islam’s code of lawlessness, justice will not longer be found. This is happening in Germany. The children are now all up for grabs. And just look at those faces in the photo. How sad they all are. How can anyone of conscience subject a little girl to such as these girls face and are experiencing.
gravenimage says
German Federal Supreme Court rejects as unconstitutional a law banning child marriage
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Just disgusting. How can Germany enable child rape?
Ren Ostertag says
Well protest to this court. NOW. Better than commenting here. This Federal Court there will hardly read this column.
All of you that have commented here and disapproved write a letter, email, fax and protest. They will pay attention. We have done so already!
Lu says
With what result? – German populace voted for Merkel overwhelmingly and repeatedly and disdain for AfD is widespread.
I am of the opinion that They the Volk have spoken clearly – they want Merkel and all what she represents.
What is the point of “protesting” now?
gravenimage says
Actually, Lu, Merkel did *not* get the majority of the German vote–far from it. It is that the opposition vote was so splintered that she still was able to win.
gravenimage says
I *have* written a letter, in my less-than-perfect German. It is ever better if Germans themselves protest this disgusting ruling.
Jan Favre says
Germany fast track to Germanistan.
Steve says
This is a clear attempt to get pedophilia recognized in Germany and Europe, Islam will be the wedge in the door as it was always intended to be. Satanists are in charge of Germany and the Eurabian Ummah, and powerful in America and the rest of the West. Islam is their battering ram and Trojan Horse to achieve the Satanic ‘Paradise’ on earth they have always dreamed of, a Hell on earth for most everyone else.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Leftopaths have turned Germany into a shithole country. Again.
infidel says
This is another CLASSIC example of how this parasite (MIS) uses host infidel laws towards its own end..
Steve says
Married Cousins ??? That should alone have raised the Red Flag of Incest and inter-related marriage which produces children with many numerous health and mental issues which a simple Google search would reveal. One only has to look at the history of royal families in Western Civilization. So now the taxpayers will be yet again stuck with paying the bill.