It is clear in the video that he is referring to violent jihad. And he rebukes those whose sensibilities are jarred by the violence and inhumanity of Islamic law: “Your feelings have no value, no worth, in light of the Quran and Sunnah. If you don’t believe and understand that, then maybe Islam is not the religion for you.”
“NY Cleric Ibn Muneer: Islam without Jihad Is Like Honey without the Sweetness; Don’t Apologize For Speaking the Truth about Jihad, Jews, and Christians,” MEMRI, December 5, 2018:
During a December 5, 2018 class that was streamed live on the Hadith Disciple YouTube channel, New York cleric “Mufti” Muhammad Ibn Muneer said that while there are different types of martyrs in Islam, one should not confuse any of them with the martyr who was killed in battle, who holds the highest status of martyrdom. He warned the audience not to treat lesser forms of Jihad, such as seeking knowledge and giving da’wa, as if they are equal to fighting for the sake of Allah. Ibn Muneer said that when a Muslim makes a comment about Christians or Jews, such as saying that the Jews have earned Allah’s wrath, he may face repercussions such as being called an extremist or terrorist. He also said that trying to remove Jihad from the Quran and the Sunnah is like “removing sweetness from honey.” He added: “Your feelings have no value [or] worth in light of the Quran and Sunnah. If you don’t believe and understand that, then maybe Islam is not the religion for you.” The class was held at Masjid Ahlis-Sunnah Wal-Jama’ah in Queens, New York. Ibn Munner, who was born in Philadelphia and whose Hadith Disciple YouTube channel has over 10,000 subscribers, recently went on a speaking tour at several mosques in the United Kingdom. During the tour he appeared on the “Freshly Grounded” podcast, which also has over 10,000 YouTube subscribers.
Following are excerpts:
Mufti Muhammad Ibn Muneer: Now, the question is what is meant by a “martyr”? [Is it] the martyr who dies from defending himself? [Is it] the martyr who dies from being burnt alive? The martyr who dies from being drowned? [Is it] the martyr who, as we mentioned in the sermon, who was killed by his stomach, his belly, or his insides?
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Does this hadith, or the hadith about the martyr, because obviously the book of Islamic jurisprudence is based off of the hadiths… Does it apply [to these types of martyrs]? We say: No! Even though they are called “martyr” or “martyrs” – they are not of the same level as the martyr of the battle – the one who died on the battlefield. [Does] everyone understand this? It is very important to understand and not to mix these things up. The one who dies on the battlefield is of the prime highest level. Even though the others are called “martyr,” they are not on his level of “martyr-ism,” like he is. This goes to show you the virtue of Jihad for the sake of Allah. Not like those who try to make it like everything else, right? “This is Jihad, too, and seeking knowledge is Jihad, too, and giving da’wa is Jihad, too, and spending…” [These things are] a type of Jihad, but do not try to make that [the same as] qital – fighting. There is a difference between the two, and unfortunately there are many of us who do this. May Allah help us and protect us all. Obviously, the consequences and the repercussions, et cetera… Being called an extremist and a terrorist… The list goes on and on… The problems that will come from you saying certain things.
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You make a statement or a comment about this, about that, about the Christians, about the Jews… What do they do? Huh? They get a problem. “We have to edit the video, Sheikh. We have to make the video private, Sheikh, because you mentioned that the Jews are those who earned Allah’s wrath. You said that the Jews are those who earned Allah’s wrath and they are jealous – we can’t publish the video.” What is this? And what’s next? The next thing that bothers them, or irritates them, or is politically incorrect, we take that out, we don’t mention that, and we don’t talk about… What is this? When does it stop, the neutering of the Muslim, spading his courage? When does it stop?
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Trying to take Jihad from the Quran and the Sunnah is [like] trying to take sweetness out of honey.
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It is not illegal to have a gun and it is not illegal to have security. [If] someone tries to burn our house down, or blow up our mosque, or rape one of our women… We are going to defend ourselves.
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I am sorry if I made a problem for your da’wa center of you [Islamic] center, but the truth is… I am not apologizing for that.
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You never have to apologize if you speak the truth. So if you give factual information from the Quran and the Sunnah, there is no clarification that you have to make. There is no… “What’s your statement on Facebook or Twitter?” I don’t have no statement. I am not talking about one group or one person – does everyone understand this? Whether it is a college, whether it is Canada, whether it is the UK, wherever it is. There is no apologizing for the truth.
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[People say:] “You can’t say that there is slavery in Islam. You can’t say that a woman can be a concubine in Islam. You can’t say that! What about this woman that was raped, and this woman…” What does that have to do with the Quran and the Sunnah? Your feelings have no value, no worth, in light of the Quran and Sunnah. If you don’t believe and understand that, then maybe Islam is not the religion for you.
eduardo odraude says
“sweetness out of honey”
wetness out of water
Jim says
Finally, an imam with some balls. And people will still disbelieve Islamic intentions.
melek-ric says
More and more imams are beginning to shed the skin of taqiyya, because they realize it’s no longer necessary. They recognize that Islam is now strong enough (and the Kuffar weak enough) that the truth will advance it more effectively than deceit.
Anjuli Pandavar says
I don’t read it this way. I see taqiyya as failing. Initially, Islam’s spokespersons were blunt and direct about Islam to the infidel, as they’ve always been to Muslims, both in the West and in the Dar al-Islam. But this time they needed the infidel’s complicity, and went on a charm offensive, hence taqiyya. This worked to the extent that it created large swathes of Westerners who, contrary to what Muslims say to themselves about themselves, insist that Islam is a religion of peace and Muslims are these poor hard-done-by people under constant “Islamophobic” attack.
But many infidels and ex-Muslims have, for some years now, been taking the trouble to study the Qur’an, the Sira, the Hadith and Shari’a for themselves and are both publicising their findings, and worse, engaging every instance of taqiyya and Islamic apologetics head-on, using nothing other than real events and the very sources that Muslims have forever been relying on without question, and other infidels are taking note. Worse than this, and rather calamitously, *Muslims* are taking note. Every piece of taqiyya now backfires and those who practise it make daily fools of themselves. Even where infidels can’t quite put their finger on it, their senses are now sharp enough for them to smell a rat. Within 24 hours, the claim or action is all over the Internet garnering strings of comments. Comments that Muslims read. One of the strongest forces for apostasy from Islam is precisely the time lapse between beginning the process of taking over the West and the eventual imposition of Dhimmitude. Up till the last historic jihad wave (the Ottoman genocide of the Armenians), jihad meant a swift army of bloodthirsty killers descending on a people before they could do anything about it. Most learnt the real horror of Islam from their direct experience of dhimmitude, instantly imposed, by which time it was, of course, too late.
This is what’s unique about the current jihad: the intended dhimmis have time to learn what Islam has in store for them before Islam is in a position to stop them from doing so. What is worse, Islam is exposed to criticism and ridicule unheard of during its entire 1400 year history till now. It has no mechanism for dealing with this. From individuals to whole nation-states and even groups of nation-states are pushing back against Islam while Islam *has no army* capable of going out there and subduing all, although Muslims talk as if they have. The Israelis have a joke: “What is the smallest book in the world? ‘Great Arab Victories’. What is the biggest book in the world? ‘Great Arab Victory Speeches’.” There’s a lot of truth in that, painful truth, if you’re proud of being a Muslim and believe yourselves “the best of people”.
When this puffed-up little “Mufti” urges his fellow-Muslims not to apologise, it is not because they speak the truth about Islam, but because their lies about Islam have been exposed, and they end up on the defensive about the exposed truth of Islam. This is unheard of. It has never been the case in the entire history of jihad that Muslims have had to explain anything to anyone, let alone fumble around apologising for the very things their Muslim pride and arrogance are premised on. When this idiot rebukes his too-human-for-Islam coreligionists to not apologise for the truth of Islam, what he’s actually saying is “stand and fight!” How weak must a Mufti be when his last resort, his final clincher, is, “maybe Islam is not the religion for you.”? Isn’t Islam the big-balls religion that cuts your head off if you want out? I see weakness here, my friend, weakness.
Emilie Green says
“Trying to take Jihad from the Quran and the Sunnah is [like] trying to take sweetness out of honey.”
He said it. He said what we counter-jihad have been saying over and over. Violence and force are inherent to Islam. But for saying the exact same thing he’ll be praised, and we’ll be banned from Facebook, et al.
“If you don’t believe and understand that, then maybe Islam is not the religion for you.”
That’s for sure. Islam is not the religion for people of good will who seek harmony.
Logic&Reason says
“You never have to apologize if you speak the truth. So if you give factual information from the Quran and the Sunnah, there is no clarification that you have to make.”
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The very definition of an ideologue. Base your world view on a supremacist, god-divined war that you insist is yours to win. Nice.
Westman says
Did anyone notice the subtle hint to this ideologue when someone placed a running hour glass on the desk?
Watch it again and look for the hour glass. Still blowing the milk out my nostrils. The audience may approve of what he is saying yet still be tired of hearing the passionate rhetoric of a young motor-mouth..
Westman says
Anjem Choudary V2.0 or a budding Anwar al-Awlaki? The crystal ball predicts a troubled future and apologist denials.
Victory in Christ says
Here it is again. He just came out and said what islam is. He told the truth of the call to jihad. So why is the UK and Euroarabia ignoring this? Why is the U.S. so slow at accepting this and dealing with it? Apparently the U.S. and the West want to be lied to about this. The West sure has changed from the culture that took out Hitler.
There was that muslim brotherhood manifesto that was captured some time back. their goal is to turn the U.S. into Beirut. Brigette Gabriel has spoken and written on this subject. If the U.S. keeps putting its’ head in the sand on islam, they might get their wish.
Necrophage says
They’re not ignoring anything. They are FACILITATING it. Allowing Muslim parasites into the West destroys cultural cohesion, taxes the economy, and creates civil unrest. All of these stressors give the governments the excuse to exercise more totalitarian control on the natives while the animals run amok.
dan christensen says
“Trying to take Jihad from the Quran and the Sunnah is [like] trying to take sweetness out of honey.”
Jihad is the islamic license to kill. The quaran and the sunnah recognize the inherent islamic lust for disposing of infidels, if they disapprove of conversion to islam.
For homicidal maniacs a license to kill is like sweetness in honey.
Tom says
To follow the logic of this Imam, and generally what is taught in Islam, if a martyr who dies in battle performing Jihad is the ultimate form of sacrifice and must be revered, then surely those who fight and kill the martyr must also be revered for they are also fighting for a cause, survival.
Of course we all know that this isn’t so with muslims. Only muslims can be holy in their jihad against all who do not believe in Islam and whenever a perceived slight, whether real or imagined, is said or done against muslims or Islam then they, by default, become the victims.
This is of course because muslims see themselves as the only ones worthy of any respect or right of existence, and because of this they are blind to any other persons rights or feelings.
This is why they use our social conscience so well and why they have control over so many in the west who use “feelings” alone as their moral compass.
The left are duped, not only by western globalist politicians, but also by Islam into believing that muslims are victims, and that they must be protected from those who would do them harm, when it is the Islamic muslims who are actually the aggressors, using the mask of victim.
The path to defeat Islamic jihad is not through violence, but through a political cleansing of our own western countries. This is beginning with the rise of populist nationalism and a grass roots movement of yellow vests.
The political destruction of the left and globalist parties and the installation of patriotic governments is by far a greater weapon of defeat for Islam than all the military confrontations in recent decades.
Islam depends upon our social conscience to undermind our countries. The left and globalists are the weapon that is used to achieve this, and the trigger that controls all of this is the Islamic Muslim Brotherhood.
Destroy the Muslim Brotherhood control in our systems and we can defeat the Islamic jihad.
FYI says
Slavery in islam?
Certainly,muneer’s “prophet” muhammed was happy to indulge in the practice:
he was the owner,buyer/seller and murderer of..ehrm… BLACK slaves.
SAHIH MUSLIM 3901 two black slaves sold for the price of one..
see Sahih bukhari #7263,#6161,#7142
“ahmad ibn sulayamin ,sahnun’s companion said
whoever says that the prophet was black was killed.
The prophet was not black”
Ash Shifa
The idiocy of these islamic clergy:any time they say “pbuh” to their prophet,they are PRAISING a white man {Sahih bukhari #63} who was an owner of,and trader in, BLACK slaves…
“maybe islam is not the religion for you” he says,without getting the Irony of it.
somehistory says
So, a message to all of the appeasers and “not all moslims are terrorists” spokesmen….You don’t need to apologize for telling the truth about islam!
When someone such as Ms. Geller, Mr. Spencer, Mr.Ibrihim,…tell the truth about islam and the intentions of moslims the world over…don’t ask them to apologize for telling the truth.
And don’t try to silence them…the truth is necessary. Truth matters. No one should apologize for speaking truth about islam. This can’t be emphasized enough.
This moslim “don’t have no statement.” But, for once, one has spoken the truth everyone can hear…islam is all about killing and raping and slavery and torture.
Blangwort says
As an aside, taking the sweetness out of honey is actually quite simple: drop in some brewer’s yeast, water, and perhaps a few spices and you’ll have mead. The sweetness will be converted to alcohol.
But what does he care? He’s a Muslim and he is not supposed to drink the stuff anyway. Maybe he’s giving his congregation a dog-whistle instruction to do just that? I’d be laughing myself silly if that were true.
Dave says
Maybe Islam is not the religion for anyone? Well, no, it DEFINITELY IS NOT! It appeals to the basest instincts in men, and gives them carte blanche to commit disgusting acts of depravity, and this bloke thinks it is all okay.
WPM says
Islam=raping ,murdering , thieving ,slaving, lying,supremist cult , which refuses to adjust or scale back on its 1400 year crime wave.
Battle says
So-Called “Mufti” Muhammad Ibin Munee another ignorant. His hatred against opposers of Islam Moslem killing of Christians and Jews, especially Christians and Jews, is clear.
BC says
So why is he not being prosecuted? I am sure if anon Muslim said anything even half, or even 1% as inflammatory about Muslims or the quran they would be already on charges of hate crime. No there is one law for infidels and one law for Muslims
Obbop says
Observing the 85 IQ son of Mohamed spewing implanted knee-jerk rhetoric makes me very grateful for having been born a Westerner not indoctrinated with the evil vile cult of Islam.
Vann Boseman says
Obbop, So what do you do? Many people have IQs at 86 or lower. Having a low IQ impacts a person in a lot of ways including their likelihood for success in many aspects of health and life. I believe it is the plight of those born in the West to attempt to dissuade especially those with low IQs in the West that the “something for nothing” perception of Islam leads to many consequences that are untenable.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Silly ABD …!
😉
Rich says
Fakebook Marxists suspended me for 30 days for posting this article….