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Norway: Muslim migrants sending their kids to schools in Somalia to keep them from being too Westernized

Dec 28, 2018 1:57 pm By Robert Spencer

Look carefully at this report. The Muslim migrants in Norway are supposedly “refugees.” The Somalis there are supposedly fleeing violence in their homeland. But they apparently don’t think that their homeland is too dangerous for them to send their children back there, so that they learn their Islam straight with no chaser, including hatred of and contempt for the West, and then come back to Norway. Yet Norwegian authorities don’t seem to have put together the Muslim migrants’ refugee status with their practice of sending their children to these Qur’an schools.

An ancillary question is why, if Islam is what Western authorities claim it to be, have these Qur’an schools so drastically misunderstood it?

“‘Let the West Burn’: Norway Reveals Radicalization in ‘Quran Schools’ Abroad,” Sputnik, December 27, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

The Norwegian police have raised concerns about the ongoing radicalization process in so-called ‘Quran schools’ in Somalia, where kids from immigrant families residing in the Nordic country are sent, often against their will, by parents to avoid being “westernized.”

Police in Oslo have held talks with returning youngsters because of radicalization concerns over their stay at Quran schools abroad. Previously, youths with Somali backgrounds reported the widespread use of violence and abuse, including lashings and other methods of torture, they experienced during their educational trips to their “home country.”

Somali-Norwegian “Omar” told national broadcaster NRK about a school in Mogadishu, Somalia, where he, in addition to extensive violence, was subjected to brainwashing in an Islamist direction. Among other things, he told of an evening prayer they had to repeat every night.

“Let the West burn. Let it go to hell. Let God take the money from the West and give it to us,” “Omar” recalled.

​After numerous reports on the harsh conditions that Norwegian youth are exposed to inside the Quran schools in Somalia, the Ministry of Justice and Public Security asked the Norwegian police to present an overview of the situation. The Police Directorate summarized their findings in a report, which among other things, addressed the risk of radicalization.

“When you have schools where students are deprived of mobile phones and passports, as well as contact with the outside world, I think it’s much easier to involve these young people in the radicalization process,” Janne Birgitta Stømner of the new prevention unit at the Oslo police told NRK. “We have held some clarification talks with young people who have returned to check whether they have been radicalized,” she added.

One of the reasons why especially boys are being sent to Quran schools is parents’ concern that they have been involved in crime in Norway. Such corrective methods, however, have little to no deterring effect, the police reported.

“For those who have been sent away because they have committed a crime, there has been no positive effect, at least judging by the few examples we have seen. Our experience is that they continue on the criminal path when they return home, they strive after the environment they knew from before,” Janne Birgitta Stømner said.

Researcher and sociologist Inger Marie Holm of the University of Tromsø, who wrote a doctoral thesis on Somalis in Norway, argued that many Somali parents share the opinion that there is too little discipline in Norwegian schools, which they claim to undermine kids’ respect for both teachers and relatives.

“It may seem that parents sending their kids abroad are desperate. It also seems that they are not fully informed about the schools’ ways and proceedings,” Inger Marie Holm told NRK.

Poster desse skjermbileta i lag for ingen spesiell grunn. pic.twitter.com/rS1MZ9Qv94

— Sofie Klemetzen (@sofieklemetzen) November 9, 2017

​So far, however, only three youths have undergone preemptive interviews, and the police decided not to carry on with their cases….

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  1. Pete says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    “Let the West burn. Let it go to hell. Let God take the money from the West and give it to us,” “Omar” recalled.”

    Seems like the only thing these hate filled parasites can think of. They never understand how islam turned their countries into s**tholes

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 2:45 pm

      It is amazing that most Muslims are so lacking in the ability to take an honest look at Islam that they fail to see how their religion has created the most miserable, barbaric, undeveloped, unenlightened societies on Earth. They always find a way to blame everything on the hated infidels.

      The ones who do take an honest look at Islam tend to become ex-Muslims.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 28, 2018 at 6:02 pm

        Savvy Kafir, most Muslims believe that they are backward because the Infidels forced them to be that way, and that the way to wealth is by robbing Infidels.

        Muslim troll Ibrahim itace muhammed, who posts here frequently, has said that Westerners not allowing Muslims to enslave them is “international brigandage” that keeps Muslims poor.

        • Save Europe says

          Dec 28, 2018 at 9:15 pm

          Ibrahim GITface MoHAMhead, has thankfully been noticeable for his absence recently, and that’s the best Christmas present, for us all ever, G !

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 28, 2018 at 9:38 pm

          Yes–I noticed that Ibrahim itace muhammed had refrained from stinkin’ up the joint for a few days. I knew it couldn’t last…

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Dec 29, 2018 at 12:18 am

          Right, gravenimage. Muslims are forever the victims — even when they’re invading infidel lands, disrupting more advanced societies, and savagely murdering non-Muslim men, women, & children.

          And politically-correct Lefties allow them to get away with that B.S. — placing Muslims on the topmost rung of the victimhood hierarchy, and bending over backwards to make nice with them.

        • freedom says

          Dec 29, 2018 at 5:43 am

          WHERE is Ibrahim itace muhammed !?
          Well ……
          Ibby has booked himself into rehab.
          He came over to my place for Christmas and after a long talk he decided to try a trip on the Dark Side………. (Christianity). He sat down to a sumptuous Christmas dinner, even sang along to a few Christmas Carols. Everything was going fine until I took a photo of him chowing down on a fresh ham roll. He got really paranoid, dropped the ham roll (the dog was happy) screamed something in Arabic then asked me to take him to the local Islamic Rehab joint for wayward muslims.
          Haven’t seen him since.

      • Save Europe says

        Dec 28, 2018 at 9:12 pm

        Correct. Superb appraisal 👍

      • Frederick King says

        Dec 29, 2018 at 6:40 am

        I agree fully. They flee infighting between muslim sects. Then repeat the same behavior they “escaped.” Islam needs to stay out of the west and be allowed to suffer the fate of natural selection. They are coming to the west for food and free money.

    • J D S says

      Dec 29, 2018 at 9:57 am

      You are right Pete…..Islam is the EXACT cause of Muslim countries deteriorating into maggot swill…Except for the oil rich elites in Muslim countries there is nothing left there but the dregs…maybe in some ways not the poor “dregs” fault. They were just too afraid to stop the elites from taking their lives and countries away from them…well the dregs really never had their county in the first place…Islam had it.! Moo

  2. stitt29rg says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 2:27 pm

    We need segregation for refugees in outlying islands. Scandinavia and Scotland have 1000s of dreich spots where safe homes, self sufficient if the croft is managed properly, could be provided. A boat service for supplies. Some might enjoy this life, others might yearn for there home country. An inexpensive remedy for the migration crisis

    • Savvy Kafir says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 3:02 pm

      It’s a bad idea to bring more Muslims into the West, no matter where we might put them. And it is NOT our responsibility to rescue people who despise us & our culture, and who would love to Islamize Western societies.

      That money should be spent on developing alternative energy technology & infrastructure, so the West can become stronger & healthier (in all sorts of ways, for the long term), and so we can stop funding our Muslim enemies with rancid oil money.

      • abad says

        Dec 28, 2018 at 7:41 pm

        Agreed.

        Islam being anti-western world, its innate anti-secular view of the world in general, its followers are best left in Moslem-majority nations with their grass huts and camels.

        Oil has been useless to them over a thousand years now, in 2019 oil is still useless to them.

        Think about it.

        • Savvy Kafir says

          Dec 29, 2018 at 12:58 am

          Oil money has been pretty useful to the Islamists who are busy exporting their religion to the non-Muslim world. It’s been used to build thousands of mosques in the West, to buy political influence in the West, to purchase influence in Western universities, and to finance terrorists around the world.

      • J D S says

        Dec 29, 2018 at 10:13 am

        They are here because we allowed them to be here..no matter where. “Here” is they were allowed to stay and “allowed” is the key word..If they have attained citizenship, born or otherwise they were still “allowed” and that means they assimilate and follow our laws, not Koranic laws, or are forced, by law, to leave..If there is no law on the books to cover this situation .then make laws. Keep our country “our country” not theirs with their laws.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 6:06 pm

      Why should the West have to cede their lands to Muslims to set up No Go Zones to set up Shari’ah law and use as bases to wage Jihad against the native Western Infidels?

      No thank you.

    • Kilauea says

      Dec 29, 2018 at 12:15 pm

      The segregation we need is for them to return to their Islamic Paradises.

    • Ian Wilson says

      Dec 31, 2018 at 11:43 am

      Disagree. Those islands are potential paradise and should be reserved for people who want to be there and will enhance the beauty. The migrants wouldn’t appreciate it and would hate everyone because of jealousy and would trash it.

  3. Savvy Kafir says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    “Look carefully at this report. The Muslim migrants in Norway are supposedly ‘refugees.’ The Somalis there are supposedly fleeing violence in their homeland. But they apparently don’t think that their homeland is too dangerous for them to send their children back there, so that they learn their Islam straight with no chaser, including hatred of and contempt for the West…”

    ………………………………………………………………….

    That was nicely put! Some real food for thought there. If only the right people — the politically-correct sheeple of the Regressive Left — would consider it, honestly & objectively.

    The fact that hatred & contempt for the West, its culture, its freedoms, & its people are such important considerations & motivations for many Muslims living in the West is a really important one for people to take on-board.

    For these devout Somalis, the desire to have their children indoctrinated in pure, undiluted Islam (including its hatred of non-Muslims) is more important than ensuring that their children remain ALIVE. If only the PC Lefties in the mainstream media, and those controlling the EU and many Western countries, could get their heads around that fact, and ponder its implications!

    • melek-ric says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 3:25 pm

      The Western governmental agencies that have been importing these “refugees” know full-well that they’re nothing of the sort. They’re actually one of many Leftist weapons, intended to inculcate Western self-hatred.

      These Somalis and other Islamic supremacists have been brought into the West specifically to articulate the contempt for our society shared by the Leftist progressives, the latter being too cunning to overtly say it themselves lest they be voted or run out of office.

      Islamic hatred for the West is the tip of the Marxist spear, aimed right at our collective heart.

      • PRCS says

        Dec 28, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        +1

  4. DHazard says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    In their attempt to raise good kids these parents are sowing the seeds of a life filled with anger, violence and no true intimate relationships. But that is the best good Muslim parents can do. Muhammad is always the most important relative in a Muslim’s life, more important than their children, especially the girls. His misguiding hand is always there with a discouraging word of judgement.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 6:08 pm

      Unfortunately, in the Islamic sense “good kids” are those who wage violent Jihad against the Infidels to conquer them and force them to submit to Islam.

  5. Salome says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    Mind you, where you have schools where children are ‘deprived’ of mobile phones, you might actually stand a chance of teaching them something.

    • PRCS says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      Oh, yeah.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm

      Yes, but in Somalia this will just be Jihad and other Islamic horrors.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm

      Unfortunately, the “something” they are teaching is hatred of the Infidels…

  6. Rob Crawford says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    A very simple reform for “refugees” — if any member of the family, out to first cousins, returns to the land they fled, then the entire family has to return.

  7. gravenimage says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    Norway: Muslim migrants sending their kids to schools in Somalia to keep them from being too Westernized
    ………………………….

    If these parents really wanted their children to be educated, they would send them to *any* Western schools, rather than to Somalia–a place with a literacy rate of just 37%. In contrast, Norway’s literacy rate is *99%*.

    And–as Robert Spencer notes–if these Muslims were really refugees, the *last* thing they would do is send their children back into danger.

    More:

    The Norwegian police have raised concerns about the ongoing radicalization process in so-called ‘Quran schools’ in Somalia, where kids from immigrant families residing in the Nordic country are sent, often against their will, by parents to avoid being “westernized.”
    ………………………….

    That’s the whole point, isn’t it?

    More:

    Police in Oslo have held talks with returning youngsters because of radicalization concerns over their stay at Quran schools abroad. Previously, youths with Somali backgrounds reported the widespread use of violence and abuse, including lashings and other methods of torture, they experienced during their educational trips to their “home country.”
    ………………………….

    Child abuse is *rife* in Islam. The “Prophet” both sexually and physically abused his child bride Aisha.

    More:

    Somali-Norwegian “Omar” told national broadcaster NRK about a school in Mogadishu, Somalia, where he, in addition to extensive violence, was subjected to brainwashing in an Islamist direction. Among other things, he told of an evening prayer they had to repeat every night.

    “Let the West burn. Let it go to hell. Let God take the money from the West and give it to us,” “Omar” recalled.
    ………………………….

    Muslims have *always* believed that they deserve everything the Infidels have–both goods and their labor, in the form of slavery–as well as sex from sex slaves.

    Moreover, pious Muslims have *no* concept of the hard work, innovation, and free trade that go into real wealth-building. They just look at prosperous Infidels and assume, since they are the favorites of “Allah”, that these Kufar have–somehow–stolen what is rightly due Muslims, and that they have the right to steal it back.

    More:

    One of the reasons why especially boys are being sent to Quran schools is parents’ concern that they have been involved in crime in Norway. Such corrective methods, however, have little to no deterring effect, the police reported.
    ………………………….

    Nor would it be expected to. Muslim youth are taught that they rob, rape, and murder Infidels, and that it is “Allah’s” will that they do so–so why wouldn’t they be even worse when they return? This given reason is probably bogus in most cases.

    More:

    “It may seem that parents sending their kids abroad are desperate. It also seems that they are not fully informed about the schools’ ways and proceedings,” Inger Marie Holm told NRK.
    ………………………….

    Uh huh. Or maybe they know *all too much* about them…

    More:

    ​So far, however, only three youths have undergone preemptive interviews, and the police decided not to carry on with their cases….
    ………………………….

    Why? Because Norwegian authorities just *don’t want to know*?

  8. PRCS says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    They’re not “radicalized” at “Qur’an schools”, of course. They’re being taught what good ‘ole mom and dad were taught–and brought with them.

    Islam.

  9. Renate says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 6:17 pm

    Maybe it’s time to get the Enola Gay out again.

  10. Crusades Were Right says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    “‘Let the West burn. Let it go to hell'”

    Hm. It’s not so much the “letting” that bothers me; rather it’s the CAUSING.

  11. Jan Favre says

    Dec 28, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Time to boot them out. But I doubt that the cultural Marxist Regime will do it. They are too keen to destroy the remnant of Chritianity. The official protestant church is Chrislamist.

  12. tgusa says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 12:00 am

    Migrant: a person who moves from one place to another, especially in order to find work or better living condition.

    Migrant is the favored term the leftist media uses to describe these cling-ons but they are not coming to western countries to work. A migrant that migrates to another country for a better living condition but prefers the crap hole they left is not migrating for a better living condition. You will never see a Norwegian migrating to Somalia in order to find work or a better living condition.

    Keep migrating and never come back.

  13. mortimer says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 12:27 am

    Robert Spencer has surely identified the motive for sending Muslim children to Somalia for indoctrination.

    In Somalia, they will learn a proper Islam CONTEMPT for Christian countries and the MOTIVATING HATRED that will turn them into JIHADIS when they return to Norway.

    Meanwhile, the LEFTARDED Norwegians are CLUELESS about Islam’s MOTIVATING TEACHING OF HATRED directed against the DIRTY KUFAAR.

    The Norwegian LEFTARDS know less about Islam than they do about advanced nuclear fuel cycles.

  14. Robert Corrow says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 1:26 am

    The deportation of American born citizens–for their beliefs–ain’t gonna happen.

    Carrying out those of their beliefs which violate criminal law has legal consequences–which should always be made public.

    Examples abound.

    • mummymovie says

      Dec 29, 2018 at 5:06 am

      Agreed. It certainly ain’t gonna happen… no matter how many jihad terror attacks, or how horrific or deadly.

      -Yet another massive challenge we face here in the C-J movement.

      This is why muslims populate as furiously as possible immediately upon arriving here: Its a huge part of the hijra and so-called “civilization jihad”. Huge.

  15. mummymovie says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 4:57 am

    How do we do it?

    I got lectured just this afternoon by a Navy, vet that “jihad means different things to different muslims”. I just held my tongue and did not respond, not having the energy to engage this person in debate in my home.

    People here are talking about a “fight”: Whether figuratively, or non-figuratively speaking, how does that not simply end with our asses sitting in a jail cell! like Tommy R., Paul G. or Jayda F.?

    As evidenced in this article, this isn’t about ‘preventing these kids from committing crime’ in their new domain: These little bastards are being sent home to learn skills and ideology to come back and wage war.

    As the cultural Marxist left gloats over their closing-in on Trump, and their dismantling of his administration, which did very little about immigration and the “Refugee” Resettlement Industry when they had the chance before being “snipped” by the midterms and the self-administered foot-shooting in the firing of Jeff Sessions, it is clear DJT was not ever serious about stopping the flood of muslims into the U.S.: The travel ban was just red meat for us. We have been conned, and the road up ahead again looks very murky, with the pace of the hijra about to be picking up here again shortly. Trump went after Mexicans, when he should have been pinching off ALL muslim immigration, so here they come again, more emboldened, organized and determined again, to take over the West and destroy the “Great Satan” from within.

    They still seem to be winning, because I’m seeing more of them, and more of their civilization-jihadist/MB/CAIR/hijab-wearing propagandized horses#!t with every passing day; so much I feel like choking on it. The violent, criminal, globalist army Antifa and other SJW ilk are celebrated from coast to coast as heroes, and we are cast as far-right fascists, racists, and nazis; and the establishment media eats it right up, manipulating statistics, and NEVER publishing stories of jihad attacks steadily increasing worldwide, and instead rolling out heartwarming fluff stories about “refugees” who have “fled” their war-torn homelands in search of a better life: Nonstop BS from the Marxist-Progressive doublethink/doublespeak propaganda machine, every day, everywhere, at all times.

    We need a better strategy.

    Simply flinging donation money at bloggers and/or Act for America doesn’t seem to be producing adequately effective results. A consortium of Counter-Jihad lawyers, for intstance, seems to be in order- a brave and bold legal force with a solid PR department. The other side has them: All the way from the SPLC, on down to the freaking carpet remnant-wearing Somalis in my neighborhood.

    What gives?

  16. infidel says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 6:08 am

    Lazy leeches the world over… Constantly lust for Infidel women and property without lifting even a single bring.. Leaches off non Muslim tax payer…Shameless community..

  17. Elizabeth Thorne says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    How did the poor Muslim, Faisal Hussain, the Danforth shooter in Toronto, brother Fahad get enough money (millions) to buy 42 KGS of carfentanil to kill millions of Canadians? CBC never told Canadians Trudeau’s Canada..

  18. Indiana Tom says

    Dec 29, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    Muslim migrants sending their kids to schools in Somalia to keep them from being too Westernized
    They need to stay in Somalia.

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