Does this pious hypocrite not consider the possibility that Asia Bibi, the Christian woman who spent eight years on death row for “blasphemy” in Pakistan and is now in hiding there as Muslims who want to murder hunt for her from house to house, feels the pain of not being welcomed into the Vatican?
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
Jesus knows well the pain of not being welcomed. May our hearts not be closed as were the houses in Bethlehem. #Internationalmigrantsday
— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) December 18, 2018
“‘Asia Bibi was released,'” translated from “‘Asia Bibi è stata scarcerata,'” by Angelo Scarano, Il Giornale, November 7, 2018:
Asia Bibi, the Pakistani woman acquitted last week by the Supreme Court on blasphemy charges, for which she was sentenced to death, has left the prison….The woman’s husband has asked for help from Italy and the request to grant her political asylum is being considered….
“It’s an internal matter of Pakistan, I hope it can be resolved in the best way … I do not know how it will end, there have been many reactions … The question is not simple, it is very complex and delicate. Always we hope that it ends in the best way,” said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican Secretary of State.
Terry Gain says
Jesus would not ask us to submit to Islam and he told us not to follow a blind guide.
Wellington says
Agreed, Terry. The character of Jesus is in no way compatible with so many of the precepts of Islam, for instance death for apostasy. Regardless of whether one is religious or not, Christian or not, Jesus stands infinitely taller in the matter of character to Mohammed. This should be so self-evident and yet it’s highly instructive that apparently no Muslim sees this (if they did, then why remain Muslim?) and even many Christians and Jews are oblivious here as well. Goofy world.
mortimer says
Agree with Terry … Jesus and the Holy Family were refugees in Egypt, but they did not go there with a secret plan to SUBJUGATE AND ENSLAVE THE EGYPTIANS or ROB THEM and EXTORT MONEY FROM THEM.
Jesus FORBID his followers to live by the sword. MOHAMMED BOASTED THAT HE LIVED BY THE SWORD and that his LIVELIHOOD WAS UNDER THE SHADE OF SPEARS.
Mohammed was a highwayman. Mohammedans are required to imitate Mohammed.
Christians imitate the gentle Prince of Peace who said, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
The POPE DOES NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE KORAN.
Dhimmi Pope Frank is CLUELESS about what Islam actually teaches.
christianblood says
(…Pope likens migrants to Jesus as Vatican top dog says hunted Christian Asia Bibi is “internal matter” of Pakistan…)
They are all pieces of shit! These M.F. are a thousand times worse than ISIS!
I am can’t understand why God is silent over their bloody traitorous, satanic apostasy!
gravenimage says
christianblood has said before that the West deserves to be punished by God by being conquered by Muslims.
christianblood says
gravenimage
GET THIS!
(…Pope likens migrants to Jesus as Vatican top dog says hunted Christian Asia Bibi is “internal matter” of Pakistan…)
Ernie says
Yes Gravenimage , you’re right ! Most probably a case of SCHIZOPHRENIA .
christianblood says
Ernie & Gravenimage
are now openly trying to protect the pro-jihadist satanistic Pope and his Vatican ilk from Jihadwatch criticism! Like the Pope and his Vatican officials, Graven and Ernie very obviously believe that islamic invaders/immigrants are like Jesus and that the poor and persecuted Christian lady in Pakistan (Asia Bibi’s) situation is an internal Pakistani affair! Shame! Shame! And that is why (Ernie) a clueless and Christ-hating, pro-islamist Dutch liberal is calling me and others who criticized the Pope and the Vatican as “schizophrenic”!
It is a classic liberal/Islamist mode of operandi to personally demonize and dehumanize anyone who opposes their pro-islamist satanic liberal agenda and that is what (Ernie) is trying to do in this thread! Shame on you Ernie! You should have been supportive to Asia Bibi and her just cause instead of backing her islamic persecuters and their Vatican supporters! I know, I am wasting words, because as pro-islamist Dutch liberal, you have neither the moral sense nor the understanding or appreciation to support the persecuted Christians like Asia Bibi and millions like her!
The eternal classic words of Jesus describe you and your establishment masters, Ernie!
(…Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, YOU HYPOCRITES! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean…)
St. Mathew 23-24.
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
Ernie & Gravenimage
are now openly trying to protect the pro-jihadist satanistic Pope and his Vatican ilk from Jihadwatch criticism! Like the Pope and his Vatican officials, Graven and Ernie very obviously believe that islamic invaders/immigrants are like Jesus and that the poor and persecuted Christian lady in Pakistan (Asia Bibi’s) situation is an internal Pakistani affair! Shame! Shame!
…………………………..
What absolute tripe. I criticize this appalling pontiff and his representative in no uncertain terms in my comments on this thread.
The idea that rightly pointing out that christianblood wants Muslims to destroy the West is somehow protecting this pope from criticism is absurd.
I just don’t share his conclusion that the response to dhimmi leaders is to want to see Islam destroy us completely. In fact, my whole purpose here–and that of all Anti-Jihadists, in fact–is to *prevent* just that.
More:
And that is why (Ernie) a clueless and Christ-hating, pro-islamist Dutch liberal is calling me and others who criticized the Pope and the Vatican as “schizophrenic”!
…………………………..
What absolute rot. Ernie is a staunch Anti-Jihadist who has been posting here for well over a decade. Calling someone “pro-islamist” because they *don’t* want to see large swaths of the world destroyed by Islam is bizarre projection.
More:
It is a classic liberal/Islamist mode of operandi to personally demonize and dehumanize anyone who opposes their pro-islamist satanic liberal agenda and that is what (Ernie) is trying to do in this thread! Shame on you Ernie! You should have been supportive to Asia Bibi and her just cause instead of backing her islamic persecuters and their Vatican supporters! I know, I am wasting words, because as pro-islamist Dutch liberal, you have neither the moral sense nor the understanding or appreciation to support the persecuted Christians like Asia Bibi and millions like her!
…………………………..
The idea that not wanting the West to be overrun by Muslims is supporting Muslim persecution actually makes no sense.
And no–saying one opposes the destruction of the West at the hands of Muslims is *not* demonization. Taking what one has to say is, in fact, the opposite of ad hominem attack. christianblood is saying that no one should be allowed to critically assess one for what they have to say–particularly absurd, given the point of this story, which is that what the Pope and his representative have to say here.
More:
The eternal classic words of Jesus describe you and your establishment masters, Ernie!
(…Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, YOU HYPOCRITES! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean…)
St. Mathew 23-24.
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The idea that one has to want to see Islam triumphant over the West or else one is a hypocrite as an Anti-Jihadist is bizarre beyond words.
Ernie says
More nonsense and outrageous lies from Russian troll “christianblood “. People here at Jihad Watch who read my comments know very well who and what I am , and what I’m standing for .
Ernie says
Dear Gravenimage , thank you for defending me against these idiot accusations from “christianblood”, lover of the ayatollahs regime in Iran and the bloody murderers from Hezbhollah , and hater of Israel and the West in general .
gravenimage says
Of course, Ernie–proud to stand with you against the Jihad.
Ambrosie says
@ Christianblood
You are very right when you say Western liberal countries tend to help and give aid to Islamist while ignoring the plight of Christians in the muslim world. Even ‘churches’ in the West like the Vatican and others give more aid and moral support to Islamists while turning the blind eye the terrible suffering of Christians. I don’t know why this happens but it is indeed an undeniable present day reality.
christianblood says
Ambrosie posted
(…You are very right when you say Western liberal countries tend to help and give aid to Islamist while ignoring the plight of Christians in the muslim world. Even ‘churches’ in the West like the Vatican and others give more aid and moral support to Islamists while turning the blind eye the terrible suffering of Christians…)
Thanks for speaking the obvious, Ambrosie! God bless your soul!
Western liberals have deep love and respect for islam and islamists but have deep hatred for Christians and Christianity! That is a FACT which is as clear as the light of day! People like the anti-Christian, pro-islamist “Ernie” whose country (The Netherlands) brags about being the first nation that legalized “gay marriage” cannot understand this because they have absolutely NOOO moral sense to understand right from wrong!!!
Mind you, like the US, UK, France and other Western nations Ernie’s country gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Al-Qaeda “White Helmets” in Syria so that they take over Syria and exterminate Christians! These people are satanists, evil, cruel and inhuman traitors that deserve to be taken over by the ISIS and Al-Qaeda jihadists they so love and support! THEY ARE INDEED THE TRUE ENEMIES OF CHRIST AND TRAITOROUS DEMONICS!
MAY GOD DEAL WITH THEM HARSHLY!
christianblood says
Ernie,
You are a pro-islamist, anti-Christ liberal! Like (The Netherlands) your own country, you support and love islamists, you love and support the spread of the moral corruption known as the “LGBTQ” and just like your country did when it gave hundreds of millions of dollars to the Syrian jihadists like the “White Helmets” you would support islamic jihadists and celebrate the mass-murder of Christians in Syria! You are the anti-Christ liberal and you are NO different from the pro-islamist Pope and the Vatican and other Western satanic liberals like your Hollywood masters! Watch the video clip below and enjoy the sight of your anti-Christ Hollywood masters giving Oscar to your beloved Al-Qaeda buddies! Shame on you Netherlands! Shame on you Ernie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MZKRG3frQ
Ernie says
You’re sounding as if you’re near a nervous breakdown “christianblood “. Eh , well , in case this might happen , I’m sure ” Ambrosie ” will take over your duties . You’re so transparant .
christianblood says
Ernie
As a pro-islamic, pro-LGBTQ, hollywoodized, anti-Christian liberal you are incensed when the ugly truth about your satanic masters (hollywood & islamism) is exposed and that is what is happening here in this thread. Nothing more and nothing less! Plz read St. Matthew 23-24 chapters!
James Foard says
C’mon christianblood, why don’t you say what you really mean. There’s no need to hold back, this is an open forum. Don’t be afraid to express how you feel.
Ernie says
James Foard , you’re giving sound advice here . Expressing ones feelings might work very therapeutically . Holding back all those strong feelings might be catastrophic , and lead to great psychological damage . However , making up lies and mixing lies with truths all and everyday might lead to the same great psychological damage ( damage might even be beyond repair ) . The last might have happened already…………..
christianblood says
James Foard
I already said what I had to say and I don’t need to go beyond that. It is cold out there and I need to keep my gloves on!
christianblood says
(…Pope likens migrants to Jesus as Vatican top dog says hunted Christian Asia Bibi is “internal matter” of Pakistan…)
THIS IS WAY BEYOND OUTRAGEOUS!
Rob says
Jesus had no part in the lack of accommodation. He wasn’t born until after Joseph and Mary settled in the stable.
Francis is the worst pope in modern history.
Renate says
But Jesus was always there although He wasn’t always physically present. From the beginning He was was the Word and He was with God.
Mark Swan says
This seems to be a misleading effort by this Pope.
“Jesus knows well the pain of not being welcomed. May our hearts not be
closed as were the houses in Bethlehem.”
All the houses in Bethlehem were full—there was a census requiring everyone
to come in and be registered—there was no rooms to be had.
As a State The Vatican could certainly offer Asia Bibi and her family asylum.
The Pope could easily use his influence to make other countries aware of her
need and ask them to offer asylum to this poor human, who he is very much
aware of by now.
Renate says
Maybe the Pope is crucifying Christ again in offering no refuge to Asia Bibi.
vlad says
This person ain’t NO Pope.
J D S says
The Vatican Secretary of state Is just using words with no feeling in them and is the Poles mouthpiece in this situation and from all I’ve seen of this pope when it comes to muslims Asia Bibi will get no help from the very liberal Vatican. I would hope that President Trump Would just send in special forces to extract Asia Bibi and family bring them to America and laugh in the face of the pope. These would be the kinds of migrants that America needs…not those who want go force their way in.
gravenimage says
I would *love* to see the United States give Asia Bibi and her family asylum!
Gary fouse says
Damn our religious leaders.
mortimer says
No, Gary, we must PRAY God to enlighten our leaders … MANY ARE ENLIGHTENED BUT THEY ARE CAUTIOUS TO SAY SO BECAUSE MUSLIMS WILL TAKE REVENGE ON INNOCENT CHRISTIANS IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
Gary, IT’S A CHESS GAME WITH MUSLIMS on an INTERNATIONAL SCALE … Christians are the HOSTAGES in Muslim countries.
IT SHOULD BE POSSIBLE TO BARGAIN WITH THE PAK GOVERNMENT TO RELEASE ASIA BIBI as part of an INTERNATIONAL DEAL.
Elisha says
Damn the secular humanists that infiltrated the West, removed God’s truth through the Bible from the classroom and replaced it with the religion of Darwinism aka philosophical nonsense.
gravenimage says
Why is Elisha so obsessed with Darwinism–that is, evolution? The claim that Christians have to hate and reject science to be good people is ridiculous. Many scientists, in fact, have been devout Christians.
Terry Gain says
There is nothing complicated or difficult about whether Asia Bibi and her family should not be killed. This is a battle between good and evil. The Vatican refuses to choose good.
gravenimage says
Agreed–this is not morally complicated–it is very simple.
A_M_Swallow says
Giving asylum to Asia Bib is complicated for a secular state because she is a genuine refugee. Men from Pakistan will go to which ever country gives her asylum to kill her and the people helping her.
Sometime the moral action is to get involved in a fight even at the risk of your own life.
Terry Gain says
So bar entry to Pakistanis. It’s not complicated.
WPM says
Because choosing good over evil you need courage and moral backbone which this Pope lacks . In giving in to bullies they want to kill this women and not step in and offer safe passage they are saying it OK to crucify the innocent as an internal affair ?The Pakistan government already said she is innocent, that opens the door for some other authority to step in and offer her safe passage. With power comes responsible the Pope by his position of power has a moral obligation to speak out that is his job as Pope to defend Christians who are being crucify for their faith ,he cannot save everyone ,but he can at least speak out and offer help or offer to mediate between parties. He chooses to hid in his palace behind thick walls, and armed guards and tell the world OK you must accept the blood thirsty rule of a mob rule not to offend Islam Sharia rules over Christian law, and government {Pakistan} rules .,So any rulings by any governments, Pakistan , America, Canada ,Russia, India , Japan , England , France Germany , Italy, and China are null, voided over rule by Sharia law that the messages the Pope , as well all world leaders are sending. Mob rule has all these cowardly appeasing leaders pissing in there pants at Sharia law.
Carol the 1st says
Fear of ”mob rule/Sharia” makes sense, but probably “mutual unmasking” is the biggest threat.
Walter Sieruk says
Since Pope Francis likens those migrants to Jesus, it then stands to reason that maybe that this current pope Francis also thinks that those migrants are able to walk on water, give sight to the blind and heal the sick?
Also that this pope has concluded that the brave and persecuted Christian women , Asia Bibi, in Pakistan is an “internal matter” then this means the he doesn’t want to get the imams and mullahs mad at him for doing what is right and so he has “brushed her off.” The is wrong , the pope is wrong.
Renate says
I never even imagined that I would see something like this.
Terry Gain says
I don’t know if any of us did. We live in an inverted world.
Renate says
Our own leaders have sold us out to the NWO without even asking us if this is what we want.
gravenimage says
Yes–an absolute inversion of moral sense.
somehistory says
These guys are as evil as the moslims who are murdering people , as they would like to murder Mrs. Bibi.
To attempt a comparison of Jesus Christ to murdering, devil-worshipping, rapists, is demonic and is straight from the mouth of the “frogs” of Revelation.
If the pope and his kind ran the government of Italy, the lady would be in just as much danger there as she is in pakistan.
Anyone else see the AG of IL report on the number of Catholic priests involved in child abuse?
And yet, this fool of a “leader” is forever spouting his own personal ‘rules’ about what Christians should do. His skirts are filthy and he doesn’t understand the Bible at all.
The tiny town of Bethlehem was full due to the census that was being taken and the people being told to return to the city of birth. Jesus was not a menace.
moslims are a menace…and the countries they wish to overtake, are full of their trouble already.
There is no comparison.
jimconch says
You hit the nail on the head with this.
Lydia Church says
Yes.
And I did some research on this earlier too regarding the nativity.
Most Biblical scholars agree that Jesus was not born on December 24 or 25 (on any calendar, as they had the Hebrew calendar).
There is no Biblical evidence for that, in fact, to the contrary.
There is a timing outline that is followed, although not perfect. They use the time Mary visited Elizabeth and the calendar for the high priests in effect at that time. See Matthew and Luke accounts and the high priest schedule for that time in history for Israel (which I found online). Also they say that back then there was snow in Bethlehem in December so shepherds would not be out as they were on that night. Anyway, the most likely timing would have been in the Fall and I for various reasons suspect the time of the Feast of Tabernacles, which was in late September or early October. This also ties in with many Biblical themes, as that one was all about fellowship with God and God ‘dwelling with us.’ Well the nativity is the incarnation, Immanuel, ‘God with us,’ and God came to dwell in a human tent, and was born in a manger, another tabernacle. (Very symbolic of coming down to earth in other ways…) The feast was 8 days, and also circumcision was on the 8th day, it would be a very appropriate timing. Also, that is when the area would be packed as all the Jews would visit Jerusalem and surroundings to be present for the feasts, that being one of them. All the Inns may well have been booked up for that reason. Also, they did follow all the Jewish laws and presented the baby Jesus at the Temple as one account indicates, and the wise men came later and then the flight to Egypt, etc. Another interesting thing to note is that if He was born around that time, the actual incarnation was nine months earlier, (since life begins at conception as the Bible says), placing it in late December or early January, when we celebrate Christmas.
So we have the conception and birth of Jesus by the virgin Mary, and later Jesus had half brothers and sisters by Mary and Joseph as the gospels record. (It is not ‘spiritual brothers’ as the text is clear.)
Now the whole December 25th thing came around when Constantine incorporated all the pagan holidays into the church calendar, and one of them was called Saturnalia, which was celebrated on December 25th and has all the same trappings of pine branches, holly hanging, mistletoe, etc., just in case anyone was wondering where all of that came from since it has nothing to do with the nativity.
Anyway, I just celebrate the nativity at this time because there is no reason why not to! Besides the real miracle was the conception and incarnation which probably did take place around this time of year.
To all on here I want to wish a very
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
: D
Terry Gain says
I was joking the other day that since the feast of The Immaculate Conception is December 8, Christ must have been born in early September, so perhaps that’s why we celebrate Labor Day.
vlad says
:-), sensible conclusion, 🙂
Mathew Joseph says
Terry Gain
What is the connection between immaculate conception and Jesus birth? Immaculate conception refers to the conception of Mary in the womb of her mother, St. Anne, without the original sin. God predestined that this girl child would be Jesus’ mother, and so, it was only fitting that God become flesh in the womb of a human without sin.
Mary is the archetype of the Tabernacle in the Temple.
Please get your facts right.
gravenimage says
Terry, the Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with the conception of Christ–that would be the Annunciation, which is celebrated March 25.
But I do like your reference to “Labor Day”–a bit of welcome levity on a grim thread.
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s an internal matter. I think the Roman governor named Pilate said something similar when he was asked to make in a decision in a case that was brought before him concerning a certain Jewish man named Jesus. Would that make Asia Bibi’s situation comparable to Jesus’ situation too?
WPM says
You hit the nail on the head ,the Pope is washing his hands of this to appease a mob that is set to kill the innocent to keep the mob from targeting him the Pope. The Pope who is under guard 24/7 , while us ordinary people must welcome these people of a murder, rape cult into our homes unguarded?
mortimer says
Dhimmi Pope Frank wrote: “Jesus knows well the pain of not being welcomed. May our hearts not be closed as were the houses in Bethlehem.”
My response: Your Holiness, the LORD JESUS WAS NEVER A TERRORIST … NOR DID HE EVER PREACH TERRORISM.
Muslims imitate 50 GENERATIONS OF ISLAMIC TERRORISTS … STARTING WITH THE FOUNDER OF ISLAMIC TERRORISM.
Muslims imitate MOHAMMED … the highwayman-terrorist-extortionist.
A TERRORIST DOES NOT MAKE A VALUABLE IMMIGRANT.
gravenimage says
+1
Nautikos says
I’m getting VERY tired of this foolish Pope, who was elected by a cabal of ‘liberal’ Cardinals ignorant of history and Islam’s 1400 year jihad…
gravenimage says
Pope likens migrants to Jesus as Vatican top dog says hunted Christian Asia Bibi is “internal matter” of Pakistan
………………………
And absolute moral inversion of reality, where ravening Muslim invaders are like the child Jesus, and the murderous persecution of vulnerable Christians are bland bureaucratic issues.
More:
“It’s an internal matter of Pakistan, I hope it can be resolved in the best way … I do not know how it will end, there have been many reactions … The question is not simple, it is very complex and delicate. Always we hope that it ends in the best way,” said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican Secretary of State.
………………………
Would that “best way” include her and her family being murdered by a Muslim mob? *Good lord*…
Terry Gain says
I was joking the other day that since the feast of The Immaculate Conception is December 8, Christ must have been born in early September, so perhaps that’s why we celebrate Labor Day.
CogitoErgoSum says
Actually, the term “Immaculate Conception” refers to Mary and her day of birth is celebrated on September 8.
Tony46 says
Pope:
If you still believe in something, I have this for you:
”Your country lies desolate; your cities are burned with fire; in your very presence foreigners devour your land; it is desolate, as overthrown by foreigners.”
Isaiah 1:7
Exactly what happens in Europe today.
Crusades Were Right says
Re The Holy Family’s Flight to Egypt:
Weren’t Judaea and Egypt both parts of the Roman Empire? A bit like crossing from England to Scotland, or from California to Nevada? In other words, they didn’t actually cross a “hard” border.
sidney penny says
The translation show this:
“After the ruling of the Supreme Court, fundamentalist Muslims protested violently for three days in Pakistan, blocking the country. “It’s an issue inside Pakistan, I hope it can be resolved in the best way … I do not know how it will end, there have been many reactions … The question is not simple, it is very complex and delicate. always the interest that ends in the best way “, said Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican Secretary of State.”
It could mean that the Vatican is not saying that it is an internal matter for Pakistan and other countries should not become involved.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
He’s not the Pope. The true Pope is under house arrest. Bergoglio is a pretender and a hypocritical criminal facilitator to a pedophile-blackmail power network.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Italian Priest: Jesus Christ was Like Asia Bibi, Not an Illegal Migrant”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/21/italian-priest-christ-persecuted-asia-bibi-not-migrant-looking-better-life/
gravenimage says
+1
A_M_Swallow says
I doubt Pope Judas feels her pain.
James Lincoln says
Please help me:
How is it that the average bread-and-butter Jihad Watch reader has more practical knowledge about Christian values than the Pope?
FYI says
“The God of surprises always surprises us”
@pontifex tweet latest
He sure does,Senor Bergolio,He sure does.
And what could be more surprising than a two-faced,Marxist,Globalist,pro-islam,Jesuitical,hypocritical, Whited Sepulchre like Fraudulent francis,a promoter of Heresy,Apostasy within Catholicism and a facilitator of morally bankrupt clergymen,all the while pretending to be a Catholic.
This is a man who hides behind WALLS in the appaling vatican with his own little private army to protect him and a multi-billion dollar financial treasury at is disposal.
Fraudulent francis:”the man who loves the poor”{cue Thumbs up,inane grin and nod to camera:his PR dept does a good Job of making sure he looks good}
I’d love to meet him and complain about his heretical teachings and his disgraceful defense of islam but…. I’m afraid the devil might tempt me to insult his mother..
If people are fed up with this ‘holy’ show,join the club….. but do not make the mistake of converting to islam…
vlad says
Did you watch “Damien”? His mother was a bitch, quite a gruesome discovery
Dapto says
Pope calls kettle black and we are supposed to agree with him. How can this idiot interfere with every country in the world then say that we shouldnt interfere with Pakistan.
The sooner this pope is deposed whether if be from dropping dead or thrown out by the dioses the better cause the chance of getting a worse pope is slim to none
Peter WF says
These refugees will therefore have great values and principals.
So it will improve the Vatican to settle them in the Vatican.
NO?
Do as I say not as I do! The pope can lead by example and settle 100,000 in the Vatican. Then we might listen to him.
Mr. Maxwell S. J. Fenton says
Why compare the Prince of peace to the soldiers of Muhammad?
I’d admire this twat if he and his type, whilst guilt tripping the average nominal Christian, also mentioned the teachings and doctrines of these poor, struggling wayfarers.
Perhaps a public announcement as follows:-
“I know they hate Christians and Jews, and I know they are violent and cannot assimilate, in fact I know that once you invite them into your home, unlike Christ, these people will take all you have and throw you out your own land, but, find it in your mushy, sentimental, infantile heart to transcend your fears, you might get murdered and your wife raped and children enslaved, but that’s a small price to pay today isn’t it, after all that’s a Christian duty, Jesus said to be prepared to lay down one’s life, so let them all in, explain to your families what’s happening and how virtuous you are and let a poor, war mongering muhammedan have your space.”
Observer says
Interesting…
I see Christians on this website vehemently damning others…
I’m trying to find where Jesus calls on his followers to damn others.
It’s all beginning to sound rather……… islamic in spirit.
Is there no-one who can vet the website for hate speech? Coming from Christians directed at other Christians …. isn’t there the feintest touch of irony here?
Ahhh… but don’t we all have something of the murderer within our own hearts?
Now I shall wait to be stoned…
gravenimage says
The idea that one is not properly Christian unless one winks at the threatened murder of an innocent woman and says anything critical about those who do is quite grotesque.
And the idea that if one then criticizes this grotesquerie that one is “stoning” the person criticized is also absurd.
It is Anti-Jihadists who are trying to prevent *actual* stonings of victims.
The claim that it is un-Christian to stand against such horrors–and those who would enable them, wittingly or not–is utterly perverse.
Not wanting to see Asia Bibi and other victims murdered is not “hate speech”.
FYI says
Alas,Christians of all denominations in the West are being let down by their so-called leaders.So it is right that authentic and sincere Christians should express concern.The Church of Sweden panders to islam by accomodating their muslim “prayer” calls{to allah,the moslem god who CURSES Christians k9:30},the Church of England’s head is not sure about the political correctness of the term “Heavenly Father”,and francis is too busy putting on his Oscar-winning performance as an incompetent pro-NWO,pro-islam stooge by pretending to be a “pope”.
This is the Age of Apostasy….
It was always my understanding that an immoral clergyman would be removed from office..I never,EVER, believed they would be protected by ‘holy’men.
Child abuse,damaging their spiritual and physical well being, is FEROCIOUSLY condemned in Christianity Matthew 18 v 6-7
“It would be better for that person to have a large millstone tied around his neck and be DROWNED in the deep sea”
It is not so easily forgiven despite what the kumbayya clergy might say.
So the perpetrators should be prosecuted and jailed most certainly after dismissal from religious office.If a cardinal or archbishop is found wanting in this matter he should be sacked,not promoted!
“But should you not judge the members of your own fellowship?As the scripture says “REMOVE the evil man from your group”
1 Corinthians 5 v 12-13
And what did “pope” francis knowingly do about the revolting cardinal McCarrick?
He PROMOTED him:that is 100% at odds with the Christian belief!
Catholics and protestants are being lead astray by FALSE pastors and clergy{warned about in 2 Peter 2}:it is only right that Christians know this.
I’m not a fan of dhimmi Christians:I’m appalled by their pandering to islam and their lefty liberalism:If I was God for a day,it wouldn’t be world peace I’d want.I would want the vatican and “pope” francis to be exposed and dealt with.Both the Catholic and protestant traditions should go back to the original Gospel,rely on that and IGNORE these false pastors and priests and “pope” who preaches the contrary.francis doesn’t even conform to Catholicism!
As for your desire to be stoned:well,as francis might say, “Who am I to judge”?
somehistory says
Seems to be that you, yourself, are “casting” and “judging” others for comments made about something being done that is not right, that is totally unChristiian.
Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and Sadducees and called them serpents and vipers and whitewashed graves. His Apostle Peter, of whom the pope is said to be successor,” spoke thus to a man and his wife when they lied:
“Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and withhold some of the proceeds from the land? 4 Did it not belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? How could you conceive such a deed in your heart? You have not lied to men, but to God!( Acts 5:3-.)”…(Berean Study Bible ·)
When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and died.
Peter didn’t lay a finger on the man, but just told the truth. That is what has been happening on this thread. People have heard what the pope and his spokesman have said and made comments about the evil and the lies coming from them. No one is throwing stones, no killing is taking place.
But then, you know that.
James says
There is probably some sort of law of how originally conservative organizations shift to the left and lose their original mission. Perhaps the Pope has seen that supernatural theology does not arouse much faith today, and he decided there was a bigger market for leftist Marxist ideology. Perhaps it is just good marketing strategy. Or is it the spread of cultural Marxist notions of how the majority should yield to the wishes of the minority. In this case the wishes of religious fanatics in Muslim countries should take precedence over Christian charity. The Muslims are claimed by cultural Marxists to be the victims and the Christians the oppressors. But the Pope cannot ignore the 1400 years of Muslim oppression of human rights in India that led to the creation of Pakistan. No one was a Muslim in India until the Muslims conquered the country. So that is how it is.
George says
Shame on our government, If it were possible I would give her sanctuary here with us
But that would be upsetting to our so called christian values government
No Muzzies Here says
According to the story, pope, which you really should know, there was a census (necessary for proper taxation) and Mary and Joseph traveled there to register. There was no room at the inn (hotel, OK?). Nothing in the story about the couple being turned away from houses. In fact, they were allowed to stay in a stable, obviously OK with the owner of the stable.
Furthermore, Jesus was an unborn baby, and was unaware of the nature of the lodging, and so he didn’t feel any pain about not being welcomed. You don’t know the story, pope.
Pope, your mind is clouded by your radical leftism, to the extent that it has rendered you unfit for the office that you now occupy.
somehistory says
+2
Robert Carrillo says
President Trump should offer this woman asylum immediately.
The Pope is a babbling fool lately.. Maybe that’s who and what he always has been..
Tony46 says
Jesus never skimmed the Government.
In fact, He said ”Give what is Ceasar’s to Cesar and give what is God’s to God”
Period.
tim gallagher says
This Pope amazes me with the types of idiotic statements he makes (at least on the issue of Islam – maybe he is sensible on some other issues, I don’t know). To my mind Islam is the complete opposite of Christianity. Muslims, imbued with the hate-filled, evil, violent ideology of Islam, are the opposite of Jesus and of everything Jesus stood for. And then, for the Vatican to ignore the plight of Asia Bibi, and, no doubt, other Christians constantly being persecuted and killed in Muslim lands, is disgusting. I was wondering if the Polish Pope John Paull II, who seemed courageous, had anything to say about Islam. I can’t recall if he did. I ask this because Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia all seem realistic and tough on Islam. I thought a Polish Pope might have been pretty tough and truthful about Islam’s evil nature. Merry Christmas to all the commenters at Jihad Watch, people that I think of as the awake and aware people when it comes to Islam’s nature. May many more people wake up during 2019.
Renate says
A very Merry Christmas to you, too, Tim. I can’t really understand a Pope being so pro-Islam.
tim gallagher says
Thank you, Renate. I’m with you. I can’t understand this Pope when he seems to always be supporting evil Islam, which is a clear enemy of Christianity. The Pope should tell the truth and call Islam evil, which it so clearly is.
Renate says
He should also be saying that Mohammed was a false prophet, but he says nothing of the sort. As far as I can see, if Jesus was the Son of God, there would be absolutely no excuse to introduce another “prophet” after him. It would be totally unnecessary to say the least. Apparently Muslims refer to Islam as a “way of life”, not so much as “a religion”. I guess the Pope didn’t notice that. I just can’t see following a 7th century warlord as though he were a god when he’s not.
James says
As far as I know, there is no historical evidence for the census where everyone had to go to the place they came from to be counted. I read an analysis that said that such a census was not so likely, because it would have crowded roads with people in motion, and the Roman army needed to use the roads. Also, you would think that Joseph could have gotten an exemption for Mary because of her pregnancy, and she would have been able to stay home. Furthermore, when we have censuses or taxes, we do not have to go back to where we came from to be counted or pay. As far as I know, the Bible does not say that this story should be the basis for American or Western immigration policy. Generally, what a lot of experts say is that when Muslims start moving into countries, they gradually push Christianity and other religions into the background. According to the story in the Bible, Mary and Joseph did not insist on staying in Bethlehem, they went home after the census. They did not try to convert others in Bethlehem, and when Jesus preached, he generally did not preach jihad either. So, I think perhaps we should not take the Pope as the last word on immigration policy. Generally we do not see Muslims wringing their hands in guilt. We do not see them welcoming Muslim migrants in. They do not change their culture to incorporate Jewish or Christian or Hindu doctrines and practices. So again, the Pope seems to want a sort of capitulation to an aggressive religion that is trying to replace Christianity in the very country where the Catholic Church has its main churches and historical shrines and traditions. Where is the resistance? John Paul resisted totalitarian communism in Poland. What has the current Pope resisting? What aspect of his church is he actually defending? Is he trying to keep the church even in existence? Is he converting Muslim immigrants?
James says
To be fair, the Pope has no army and not much territory. The Catholic Churches and all their art treasures are sitting ducks for terror attacks. So the Pope probably cannot afford to antagonize anyone, especially violent fanatics of whatever stripe. In WW II the Pope also did not condemn the Nazis and the Holocaust, but he did work behind the scenes to rescue many Jews, so he was not so bad as some portray him, such as the play The Deputy by Hochhuth. But I have not read that the Pope is doing anything to bring persecuted Jews and Christians out of harms way. He seems to be helping bring terror, crime, rape, fanatacism into Western countries, where they could attack the Christians and their churches. The leftists constantly harp on how innocent the migrants are, mostly innocent mothers and children. Well, most of them are young men, and a bit violent. As far as we know, Joseph was not a terrorist, criminal, rapist or religious fanatic. So the parallels to migrants today and the story of Jesus and the manger is not quite plausible. If the story in the Bible is true, which has never been proved, Mary and Joseph were taken in by Jews like themselves, and they had never sworn to kill their hosts and destroy their culture. They did not go on welfare in Bethlehem, and they left after the census. So again, the parallels seem rather weak. I guess a Marxist liberation theology-oriented Catholic priest or Pope probably is not intellectual enough to think of such simple common sense facts. It is nice of him to preach love of one’s fellow human beings, but usually after one turns the other cheek one is free to strike back. Jesus’s patience with terrorists and rapists was presumably not unlimited. And he did not call on people to destroy their own culture to please members of morally inferior ones.
gravenimage says
Italy is not under Muslim domination today, as Italy was under Fascist occupation in the 1940s.
And I have seen no indication that this pontiff is secretly aiding Christians behind the scenes. Just the opposite, in fact.
James says
I did not try to defend the current Pope. I was just pointing out some issues that the Pope faces. It is true that Italy is not occupied by Muslims, but that does not prevent Muslim terror attacks, it does not mean Muslims have no influence on Italian and EU policies. There is more than enough reason to fear Muslim reactions to Papal policies and statements. I never said that the Pope was secretly aiding Christians either. I asked why he was not doing so. Perhaps he should speak out for the persecuted Christians and against the persecuting Muslims. I was asking why he did not at least do what the Pope did during WW II So, gravenimage seems not to have read my comments very carefully.