No surprise here.
The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
Will gay rights advocates say a word about this? Of course not. It has long been established that in the hierarchy of politically correct causes, Islam trumps gay rights. When AFDI ran ads highlighting the mistreatment of gays in Islamic law, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors issued a resolution condemning not that mistreatment, but our ads. Gay advocates such as Theresa Sparks and Chris Stedman attacked us for daring to call attention to the institutionalized mistreatment of gays under Islamic law. It was that, or risk not being invited to the best parties.
“Activists: Chechen Authorities Order Families to Kill LGBT Family Members, Also Pay Ransoms,” by Anna Nemtsova, Daily Beast, January 18, 2019:
Russian campaigners have told The Daily Beast that Chechen authorities have ordered people to kill LGBT members of their own families, and have demanded ransoms for the release of detained LGBT relatives.
According to reports, at least 40 people have been arrested in the last two to three weeks, many of them tortured, in a new crackdown against LGBT people in Chechnya. Two gay men have reportedly died following torture.
“Chechen authorities demanded that relatives punish their gay family members by executing them,” one of the St. Petersburg volunteers for the Russian LGBT Network, who did not wish to be named, told The Daily Beast. “Several people who managed to escape have been raped with police clubs and tortured with electricity.”
The detentions were reportedly carried out by law enforcement officers in the southern city of Argun.
Alvi Karimov, spokesman for Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, told reporters Monday the reports are “complete lies and don’t have an ounce of truth in them.”
Svetlana Gannushkina, a prominent human rights defender, told The Daily Beast that on a recent afternoon she had received phone calls from a Chechen family, asking her to help an arrested male relative.
Gannushkina is a former member of the presidential Council of Civil Society and Human Rights in Moscow. “People in Chechnya believe that I can make a few phone calls and save their loved ones. This family asked me to help after police had arrested their relative and demanded one million rubles ($15,090) from them, otherwise the entire republic would know that they had a gay family member; and they said they would kill their boy. So there were two threats.”
Gannushkina put the family in touch with an attorney. On Jan. 10 she heard the man was free. “The police most probably took their money,” Gannushkina, now the head of Civil Assistance Committee, an NGO, told The Daily Beast on Thursday. “This situation sounded like one more awful atrocity in Kadyrov’s Chechnya.”…
James Pierce says
I wonder what “human rights activist” Mohammed would have thought about this?
unbeliever1 says
Where is Queers against Israeli Apartheid when you need them? Too bad their hypocracy caused them to disband due to their just targeting on Israel -the one country in the Middle East with a Gay Parade– while ignoring the true oppressors of gays.
christianblood says
Anti Russian propaganda (by extension) detected!
They won’t say a thing about Saudi Arabia/isis backing islamic jihadist endeavors globally, throwing “gays” from high buildings, beheadings and crucifying its victims, including Christians, banning all non-islamic religions from its territory, literally enslaving millions of women and blacks and sponsoring 9/11 attacks in the US that killed thousands and much more! IN SPITE OF ALL THESE FACTS AND MUCH MORE…THE SATANIC, PRO-JIHADIST U$ & THE WEST ARE STILL LITERALLY DANCING WITH SAUDIS! THE WEST IS INDEED EVIL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f35TUFmCtYY
Wellington says
First of all, christianblood, whom do you mean by “they?”
Second, many, many Americans, including myself, gravenimage, certainly Robert Spencer, et al. have regularly mentioned how disgusting Saudi Arabia is and how America allied with SA is, at best, a temporary cruel necessity, at worst, utterly objectionable. You, by contrast, never criticize Russia for alliance with another barbaric Islamic state, Iran, which has also killed gays for the “great crime” of being gay, or its proxies like Hezbollah (indeed, you have stated here at JW, and I quote, “God bless Hezbollah”). You never criticize Russia for ANYTHING.
You know, christianblood, by now it may dimly dawn on you, though I am not holding out much hope, that Americans are quite capable of criticizing their own country and leaders. By contrast, you are forever in “Russia and Putin can do no wrong” mode.
Part of the reason why America is a far greater nation than Russia (examples being Russia doesn’t have as large of an economy as even Texas and as WWII was drawing to a close civilians, especially if German, did all they could to reach American or British lines because the Russians were, as John Toland and many others have chronicled, including American and British military attaches with the Russian army, raping every female whether eight years old or eighty) is precisely due to America’s willingness to acknowledge its own wrongdoings. It’s wrapped up with a much larger phenomenon which has made America the great nation that it is—freedom, respecting which Russia has known so little of over the centuries, whether under Czars, First Secretaries or now Putin. Just as with the Islamic world, Russia is completely incapable of grasping the importance of liberty or of the need to fess up to what it has done wrong.
Telling. Damning. Highly instructive. I predict you will miss all of this.
gravenimage says
+1
christianblood says
Wellington
I am here to speak the Truth and that Truth is US and the Western world
love islamists, support islamists, arm islamists and hate Christians!
Islamists & Western liberal elites are one and the same thing to me!
I can’t separate them and I hate them both! Such scenes as the one below really pisses me off and makes me very angry!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_MZKRG3frQ
gravenimage says
christianblood hates awards shows–but he has still not said that he hates Muslims murdering gay people.
Good thing I’m not holding my breath waiting for him to do so…
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
Anti Russian propaganda (by extension) detected!
They won’t say a thing about Saudi Arabia/isis backing islamic jihadist endeavors globally, throwing “gays” from high buildings, beheadings and crucifying its victims, including Christians, banning all non-islamic religions from its territory, literally enslaving millions of women and blacks and sponsoring 9/11 attacks in the US that killed thousands and much more!
………………….
Who is “they”? Certainly not Jihad Watch, which regularly covers Islamic horrors in Saudi Arabia, and has for many years:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/saudi-arabia
The thing is that Anti-Jihadists condemn the mistreatment of gay people in Saudi Arabia, and wherever else it occurs.
Will christianblood say *anything* critical of the Shari’ah government in Chechnya ordering families to murder gay family members? I doubt it–he has lauded Shari’ah law on Russian soil many times before.
Moreover, the persecution and murder of gay people in Chechnya has been widely covered here, and christianblood has never once said anything critical of it. One can only assume that he approves. *Ugh*.
Ernie says
“Christianblood” suddenly a human-rights activist ? hahaha !
Indiana Tom says
Just remember that Rand Paul called out Saudi Arabia as being as bad as Iran.
Indiana Tom says
I see the Muslims have no influence in russia and Putin keeps a tight lid on them…NOT!
Notice Christian Blood shifts the topic to Saudi Arabia and Trump.
Of course Putin is best buds with turkey and Iran, that never comes up.
gravenimage says
Good point, Indiana Tom.
Renate says
The last time Chechnya was accused of killing gay people, Kadyrov said there were.no gay people in Chechnya. He just didn’t add that that was because Chechens were killing them all.
PRCS says
Precisely.
revereridesagain says
They have a reputation as among the most hard-line and vicious of Muslims in enforcing these strictures.
Carol the 1st says
Here’s a look at the specimen:
Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov questioned on ‘gay purge’ – BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79MXujhBrxQ
PRCS says
What a screwed up part of the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCD93jnb06M
gravenimage says
Sorry–I don’t read Russian. What is he carrying here?
Renate says
It’s “a bowl of the Prophet Muhammad’s legacy”.
Carol the 1st says
Here’s more of the story:
‘Islamic relic’ presented to Chechnya
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/22/muhammad-relic-presented-to-chechnya
PRCS says
Thank you.
And the Chechen Muslims–generally–believed that nonsense.
And those who correctly suspected it was nonsense knew better than to say so.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Renate and Carol–pretty stupid stuff–especially given the fact that there is no record of any such relic, even in the Muslim world.
Of course, this silliness pales before the evil of the story above.
gravenimage says
I should have said “no tradition of any such relic”.
Georg says
What with the hat and beard style he appears especially progressive. Strange.
gravenimage says
Chechen authorities accused of ordering families to kill their LGBT family members
…………………..
Just horrifying–but from everything I have heard, not surprising.
Eur says
If Islamophobia is white supremacism why do I have phobia for Chechen Muslims? Chechen Muslims are homophobic, terrorist and supremacist just like Arab Muslims, Pakistani, black or blue or yellow. The problem is that Islam is a totalitarian fascist supremacist shit. Islam means theocracy and I hate theocracy.
PRCS says
Correct.
Muslims in that part of the world are–predominately–white.
Mixtli says
I was going to ask what that thing was,….but thanks to others I now know its a relic of the Prophet Muhammad,….I remember a video on YouTube said somewhere in Saudi Arabia they had Mo’s fingernails, hair and other crap. I thought Muslims were monotheists, not believing in idolatrous concepts as this bowl or the necklaces that the arab put around those children and women’s necks.
gravenimage says
Yep.