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German newspaper says supporters of party opposed to mass Muslim migration should be denied right to vote

Jan 13, 2019 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

The Left’s endgame: authoritarian regimes that criminalize dissent. We’re well on the way.

“Hamburger Morgenpost demands that AfD supporters lose their right to vote,” translated from “Hamburger Morgenpost fordert AfD-Anhängern das Wahlrecht zu entziehen,” by David Berger, Philosophia Perennis, January 12, 2019 (thanks to Searchlight Germany):

Suddenly there they are again: the subhumans who have nothing to say. To whom the gentlemen of the “Morgenpost” would deny their normal basic rights, but especially their suffrage. And then celebrate themselves as defenders of democracy. Is there anything more contradictory, more perverse, even fascist? Hard to imagine.

In the torrent of hate of the mainstream media and state radio against the AfD and the “right wing,” it becomes more and more difficult for committed and career-mad journalists to prove themselves more loyal to the regime and more motivated in competition with their colleagues.

Driven by this problem is obviously one Ralf Dorschel, who published an article in the Hamburger Morgenpost that would have made “Der Stürmer” or “Neues Deutschland” in the time of the GDR.

In the beginning it says: “This is largely a consensus among Germany’s Democrats: But not with the AfD! Their representatives are seen nationwide as frivolous, dangerous — or both. There are tons of extremists, racists and Holocaust deniers — characters with whom you want to have little to do. But AfD voters! We must all think along with their worries, politicians of all parties explain to us. Their fears we have to enshrine in law! But do we really have to? Or would not it be high time to leave AfD fans on the right side and finally make politics for the majority again?”

“In a fair world, AfD fans would have the right to vote withdrawn”

A collection of blanket prejudices, set out before his colleagues without any evidence in the world, can be found here in a few sentences. And so it goes on from paragraph to demagogic paragraph.

Until the article finally reaches its climax:

“In a fair world, AfD fans would have to the right to vote withdrawn. Just as you take away children’s toys when they have tantrums: Little ones, you can build your knight’s castle in many forms and colors, with walls, ditches and gates or open with drawbridge lowered. But if you always want to destroy everything, then you’re out. ”

Suddenly there are sub-humans, who have nothing to say. They, like children, have to follow the orders of adults in the “children’s detention center”. The master men of the “Morgenpost” can deny them their normal right to life (pictorially here: play with blocks) and disagree with their suffrage, or make it dependent on corresponding behavior loyal to the regime. And celebrate themselves as defenders of democracy.

Can anything be more contradictory, more perverse, even fascist? Hard to imagine.

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  1. Dawne says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    Deeply concerning.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 6:40 pm

      Fascism usually is. Germans should vote “Far Right” if they want moderate government or wish to resist the current Islamic conquest.

      • Charles says

        Jan 14, 2019 at 6:55 pm

        Robert, you got that one right ! This guy Dorschel is not “left’ but fascist-minded.

    • Lydia Church says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 6:50 pm

      Because that’s how democracy works…. right?
      Just don’t give the right to vote to those who vote the other way…

      In logic think that’s called ‘tyranny.’

      • mortimer says

        Jan 13, 2019 at 9:07 pm

        UBERMENSCHEN of the leftist globalists and UNTERMENSCHEN of the patriotic opposition.

        The REAL FASCISTS just STOOD UP.

  2. Anjuli Pandavar says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    1. deny them the right to vote
    2. ban them from holding public office
    3. revoke their citizenship
    4. …
    …
    …
    X. How could it happen?

    • Moon Dancer says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 5:43 pm

      This is like the Third Reich all over again. Only this time it’s worldwide. I Don’t believe the “Elite ” should be allowed to set the human race back to the Dark Ages with the aid of artificial intelligence just because they are filthy rich!! Each and every human being has a mind of his/her own . This brainwashing and utter lack of privacy have already gone too far! How many people who read this article TRULY believe it? Agree with it?I don’t think the asshole who WROTE it REALLY feels that way! And I certainly don’t think the readers agree. Everyone is just scared half out of their wits. No true German WANTS to be replaced by a Muhamaden from the Middle East! Same goes for a true Patriot of France, U.K. ,Australia, USA, S.America, etc etc . This does NOT make us RACIST! It merely means that we are Patriots of our OWN GREAT COUNTRIES!(Same as the Muhamaden’s who go back and forth between their HOMELANDS and the Western Countries who throw money at them while they wage their barbaric jihad are Patriots of THEIR countries!) WE ARE NOT STUPID We are aware of the ELITE plan to eliminate us! The European Union and the United Nations serve no good purpose! Why should someone in Saudi Arabia be in charge of HUMAN RIGHTS in America? Why do a bunch of rich people get to decide who lives and dies? Who we worship and how? And get to enslave us? And torture us? During the Great Depression MANY, MANY filthy rich people lost everything they owned, materially speaking, They committed suicide because they were so materialistic they couldn’t even IMAGINE getting a job and living the ONLY way most people on earth live! I would like to see some of these Elites lose their wealth and power and find themselves in the same boat as they have put the rest of the world in!

      • Anjuli Pandavar says

        Jan 14, 2019 at 3:45 am

        MD,

        “This is like the Third Reich all over again.”

        —

        For me the most depressing aspect of this is that it seems the only people who can see this are outside of Germany. Germans are acutely aware that their freedom of speech is severely curtailed, their leaders treat them with contempt (“Gehen Sie mal ab und zu in die Kirche” – Angela Merkel to a woman worried about the threat migrants pose to her personal safety) and now their *elected representatives* are subject to assassination attempts, yet none of them see the wood for the trees! Nazism did not begin with rowdy thugs on the streets (those came later). It began like this, *legally*, with the gradual erosion of rights and freedoms. Whereas previously those leaders told them, “It’s the Jews!”, and they believed it. Now they tell them, “It’s the AfD!” and they believe it.

      • Moon Dancer says

        Jan 14, 2019 at 9:37 am

        If my comment is in need of moderation please take it down. I will never comment on here again.

        • Mirren10 says

          Jan 14, 2019 at 11:01 am

          Have you registered ? If you do that, your comments won’t be put into moderation. Click on log in, then click on register and create an account.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 14, 2019 at 10:14 pm

          The first time you comment–or if you post under a new username–your comment immediately is posted but is also briefly under moderation. This is not an insult to the content of your post, which seems just fine.

          In fact, you can see that your comment is no longer under moderation–and most subsequent ones will not be, either. (Sometimes if you have, say, a lot of links in a post it will also be under moderation for a time).

          I’d like to welcome you to Jihad Watch, Moon Dancer. Please don’t let an automatic system for all new posters put you off.

    • Rufolino says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 3:41 am

      Don’t people realise what’s happening ?

      Merkel and the German Media have successfully brainwashed the genersl public into thinking that any political views to the Right of Centre are wicked and dangerous, and only the Left is virtuous and safe.

      End of story.

  3. Manuek 2 Paleologus says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    This German guy is another Nancy and Chuck. All these guys are morons and islam friends. They should go to Saudi and kiss the bottoms of these perverts who want to conquer the world through massive immigration as the late crazy Gadaffi states: islam will not need weapons to attack the west, it will conger through Hijra, which is caravans of millions of muslim why will have an explosive demographic.

  4. eduardo odraude says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 3:29 pm

    Freedom of speech quite limited in current Germany. Shame on the criminally negligent politicians who are responsible for killing free speech:

    Retired German sports star discusses inability to speak openly in Germany now

    • simpleton1 says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 4:45 pm

      He won the Auckland, NZ., single men’s tennis.

      … his outspoken nature that got him into trouble last year – a reputation that threatens to follow him around for the rest of his career. …

      … It led to a media storm, bringing up the 27-year-old American’s chequered history on social media, including his support of American president Donald Trump, homophobic tweets, and an apparent interest in nationalist and alt-right politics. ….

      …. Sandgren accused the media of “demonising” him in a pre-prepared monologue, refusing to answer further questions about his past tweets and political beliefs.

      That would only end up fueling the outrage machine, as fans and former players took to social media to criticise Sandgren.

      Among them, was tennis great Serena Williams who slammed her compatriot for his support of Donald Trump, also saying “there is an entire group of people that deserve an apology”.

      She also tweeted “turns channel” while Sandgren was on the court against Chung. …..
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12189368

      If the sports players can be controlled, and as can be seen, the pressure, stress, and cost put on the players.
      The media have easily found another area to hide any opposing opinion or thought.
      It can be made into an example, to show that any other views that become public, come at a very high price.
      Another means of ‘terrorizing’, that can also affect any one who thinks differently.

      That means one may have to question that if this is in the public domain, then one must consider their safety and security. This is not stated, and even maybe journalists and media would say that is untrue. But they are a part of the ‘doxxing’, and incitement, and another level of thought, that the ‘transgressor’ deserves what may befall him.

      I do not buy newspapers that support this.
      Nor do I watch television, that inherently keep pushing many such pc. multi culti, identity, global, etc. agendas.

      The pressure on “free speech” is widespread through out Western Civilization.
      This is a key area of battle, not only against islam, but also on the many socialization projects being run world wide.
      So we must “use it or lose it”! and endeavour to support all parts of “free speech” and expose censorship for the gross misuse of power that it is.

  5. Emilie Green says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    Hamburger Morgenpost employees wear their stylish-Gauleiter uniforms while on duty,

    https://www.nsdapuniforms.com/gauleiter-tunic_2

  6. Indiana Tom says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 4:37 pm

    Remember boys and girls, Nazi stands for National Socialism. Mussolini showed that yes, you really can have it all.

    • Moon Dancer says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 6:20 pm

      Do you believe we (the people of all Western Countries) “have it all”?

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 14, 2019 at 10:16 pm

        Indiana Tom is being sarcastic.

  7. gravenimage says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 5:35 pm

    German newspaper says supporters of party opposed to mass Muslim migration should be denied right to vote
    ……………………

    *Deeply* disturbing.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 13, 2019 at 6:09 pm

      This demonstrates in microcosm, gravenimage, the shift over the past half century or so of traditional liberalism morphing into leftism. Old-style liberals like Joe Lieberman and Alan Dershowitz have brought this very “topic” up over the last two decades or so many times. Indeed, that young nothing, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, just the other day criticized, in a stupid and completely uninformed way, former Senator Lieberman criticizing her in a cogent way. She functions in microcosm the “problem” respecting what has happened to the left side of the political spectrum.

      Bottom line: The conservatism of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan remains essentially in tact, with RINOs like Rockefeller back in the 60’s to Rinos like Romney in our time still making stupid trouble for no good reason.

      By contrast, the liberalism of old, which wanted too much taxation and government involvement as I see it, nonetheless understood that evil must be opposed rather than making excuses for it. That old-style liberalism is largely gone (sure helps to explain such a “thing” as the Orwellian “speech codes” on college campuses aplenty in America where the modern Left predominates) and this is a damn shame for freedom, democracy, common sense, proper knowledge AND a comprehension of evil—and opposing it must occur if free societies are to survive.

      In short, Western Leftism is approximately as much of a threat to liberty as is Islam. By now, one knows this or should know it. Conservatism has had nothing to do with any of this nonsense EXCEPT to the extent that so many conservatives, still knowing right from wrong, have lost their collective balls in opposing these twin evils.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 13, 2019 at 6:18 pm

        Fine post, Wellington–needless to say, the above has *nothing* to do with Liberalism. It is its very opposite.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 13, 2019 at 6:49 pm

          Yes, gravenmage, Dershowitz has made this point many times, but I issue here a “reservation.”

          To wit, precisely because old-style liberalism wanted more government, actually a lot more government (think FDR and LBJ here), it opened the door to what Leftism now inflicts upon freedom BECAUSE government has powers the private sector does not and BECAUSE government doesn’t go out of “business” no matter how inefficient it is, unlike the private sector, since no matter how inefficient government is, it still “hangs around.”

          As Thomas Jefferson said, government is best which governs least. Or as Ronald Reagan said, government is not only not the solution, so many times it is the problem.

          So, I see a “connecting link” between old-style liberalism and modern leftism which good people like Dershowitz and Lieberman fail to see as I can best detect matters here. Yes, old-style liberalism understood what is evil and understood that it needed to be opposed, but in the “metaphorical kernels” of old-style liberalism there existed a spawn of the worst kind, i.e., Leftism, PRECISELY because of the error of wanting more government than was necessary.

          What do you think?

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 14, 2019 at 10:32 pm

          Wellington wrote:

          Yes, gravenmage, Dershowitz has made this point many times, but I issue here a “reservation.”

          To wit, precisely because old-style liberalism wanted more government, actually a lot more government (think FDR and LBJ here), it opened the door to what Leftism now inflicts upon freedom BECAUSE government has powers the private sector does not and BECAUSE government doesn’t go out of “business” no matter how inefficient it is, unlike the private sector, since no matter how inefficient government is, it still “hangs around.”

          As Thomas Jefferson said, government is best which governs least. Or as Ronald Reagan said, government is not only not the solution, so many times it is the problem.
          …………………………..

          Interesting that you mention Jefferson here, Wellington. To the extent that I am a Liberal, this is more in the Enlightenment sense than in that of the early 20th century.

          I have never been a fan of big government, which although it is not always as bad as what is being advocated in the story above, is nonetheless all too often given to authoritarianism of one kind or anther.

          (And I don’t use the term “Libertarianism” to describe my views, either, although I do agree with some of their positions, because Libertarians in general fail to understand the importance of defending those liberties–including with a military, border security, police, and courts and corrections–the courts not just for criminal matters, but also for the settlement of disputes–these liberties do not happen automatically as some Libertarians naively believe. One has to be ignorant of both history and the state of much of the rest of the world to think like this.)

          More:

          So, I see a “connecting link” between old-style liberalism and modern leftism which good people like Dershowitz and Lieberman fail to see as I can best detect matters here. Yes, old-style liberalism understood what is evil and understood that it needed to be opposed, but in the “metaphorical kernels” of old-style liberalism there existed a spawn of the worst kind, i.e., Leftism, PRECISELY because of the error of wanting more government than was necessary.

          What do you think?
          …………………………..

          I generally agree, Wellington. But while old-style Liberals generally understood the evils of, say, Fascism, they were often woefully naive (or worse) when it came to understanding the threat of Communism. Some saw the danger, of course–but all too many were ready to give Communism and Communist regimes the benefit of the doubt long after this stance could be ethically defended.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Jan 13, 2019 at 6:56 pm

        Jordan Peterson points out the following contrast: on the center-Right there is a fairly clear awareness of where the line should be drawn beyond which one is stepping into the evil Right. The line is drawn prior to dictatorship and ethnic collectivism. But, Peterson argues, there is no line that clear on the Left. Public discourse is relatively unclear about where evil begins on the Left, where the line is to be drawn between moderate Leftism and evil Leftism, despite the fact that communism murdered over a hundred million people in the twentieth century. Communists arguably should be as much persona non grata as are Nazis.

      • epistemology says

        Jan 13, 2019 at 8:08 pm

        Absolutely right my dear friend, but the problem is still in Germany. Also I can understand your predicament with all the contemporary American politicians. The AfD is a democratic party and competing legally with all the other parties. Point is the German government doesn’t want to admit that they committed a big blunder by letting all the muzzie rapefugees in.

        All the best to you and your and yours, take care

  8. Kesselman says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 6:16 pm

    The globalist elites aka liberal fascists can’t resist the inborn temptation to be bullies. The Germans are certainly not alone—they have like-minded in all of the Western worlds. In the eighties, they displayed ‘Berufsverbot.’ At that time it was aimed at the communists. Since then the German society has turned the socialist way. Thus the lockout of citizens rights is applied to national conservatives what MSM calls ‘extreme right wing.’

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 10:38 pm

      This was generally used to prevent members of the terrorist Red Army Faction from infiltrating government posts. I don’t think this was altogether a bad thing.

  9. eduardo odraude says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    Some on the left are stupid enough to think it indubitable that they are righteous. Therefore they need not be tolerant but can take control of the state and force their views on others for those others’ “own good”. The most contemptible thing about certain parts of the left is a tendency to truly stupid arrogance and conceit. Underlying that conceit is a babe-in-the-woods lack of sophistication that leads them not to notice their own fallibility. Thus Lenin had no doubts about his mission and was fine with killing thousands of people, because he couldn’t see his own fallibility and thought he was on the side of History. Those who support Sharia also don’t see their own fallibility. Democracy requires a certain realistic humility and a corresponding willingness to tolerate the views of others. Ralf Dorschel should not have his vote taken away. But he should hear from a all directions: “You, Ralf Dorschel, enlightened and sophisticated in your own unbelievably conceited eyes, are in reality an immature simpleton talking in the language of thugs and dictators.”

  10. Save Europe says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 7:36 pm

    Nonsensical fools like this will destroy us ALL.

    He should be forced to look at Afghanistan pre-Islam, and himself be denied a vote.

  11. infidel says

    Jan 13, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    If U do not educate them and mainstream them – BIG TROUBLE .. If U educate them and try to mainstream them — HUGE TROUBLE …. If U then give the educated ones positions of power and influence… MONUMENTAL TROUBLE… The Khafir loses all ways.
    Another Islamic TRUISM from the annals of the infidel..

  12. warren raymond says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 1:35 am

    Back in the sixties, Communists were excluded from holding public office. They couldn’t even work as mailmen. Homosexuality was still forbidden. Now they rule. And turned the table.

  13. dan christensen says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 2:05 am

    The situation i Sweden is even worse. In this week it will be decided, whether a “liberal- socialdemocratic” conglomerate is going to form government in Sweden. The preconditions are that The extreme left party plus the “Sweden Democrats” (Swedish AfD) must be shunned politically. The “Sweden Democrats” has about 20% of the Swedish votes, the extreme left a few percent.
    If this odious deal is completed, Sweden has written off around one fifth of all voters from the democratic process in Sweden. These 2 parties are openly called fascists and nazi by the Swedish prostitute journalists.
    It seems that the Elites in Germany and Sweden are determined to exclude any political opposition, on the pretext of ‘islamophobia’ and ‘indecency’, also by undemocratic fascist means.

  14. Steven says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:19 am

    This German newspaper’s a real fascist as Adolf Hilter

  15. Steven says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 4:23 am

    Funnily thing, this German newspaper NEVER mention about the violence left violence wing groups such as Antifa…… or Marxist–Leninist terrorisms etc

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 14, 2019 at 10:40 pm

      +1

  16. Joe says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 7:31 am

    Since Germany allows a mere “child” to write his opinion in a newspaper, then they should allow “children” to vote.

  17. Mirren10 says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 11:25 am

    ”Suddenly there are sub-humans, who have nothing to say. They, like children, have to follow the orders of adults in the “children’s detention center”. The master men of the “Morgenpost” can deny them their normal right to life (pictorially here: play with blocks) and disagree with their suffrage, or **make it dependent on corresponding behavior loyal to the regime** (my emphasis: Mirren) . And celebrate themselves as defenders of democracy.”

    So Ralf Dorschel,thinks that these muslim ‘migrants’ should not be expected to conform to Germany’s laws, mores, or culture. Just let them in, provide them with money, housing, schools, medical care, but *don’t* expect them to give anything in return, not even gratitude or loyalty! Typical of all these terminally stupid leftard hand wringing virtue signallers.

    He also describes the supporters of the AfDI as ” …tons of extremists, racists and Holocaust deniers — characters with whom you want to have little to do.” without providing any evidence that this is so.

    I don’t see this idiot as exhibiting *Nazi* traits, (except in the suggestion that AfDI supporters should lose their vote) but much more an exhibition of the totalitarianism of the hard left, sugar sprinkled with the usual leftard bigotry of low expectations, (of the ‘migrants’) and self-satisfied smug virtue signalling, and a sweeping condemnation of any German who *does* want to protect their country, it’s laws and culture, as racists and bigots.

    Really, isn’t this sort of claptrap getting very old and tired ? A lot of Germans seem to be beginning to think so – good.

    • Mark Swan says

      Jan 15, 2019 at 1:21 am

      Yes, Mirren10, far more Germans than Mr. Dorschel cares to admit
      do support or cooperate with the AFD, which is gaining politically.

  18. martin says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    Hitlar was a socialist

  19. DP111 says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    Quote: Suddenly there are sub-humans, who have nothing to say.

    AfD persons, those who genuinely love Germany, are to be regarded as sub-human.

    Reminds me a person who came a cropper in 1945.

  20. Mirren10 says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 1:41 pm

    Actually, I think Darshel is pretending that it is the *AfDI* who refers to these ‘immigrants’ as sub-human. Because the AfDI are racist bigots, you see.

  21. Left Fascism says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    Funny the AFD have more Foreigners by % in the Berlin Parlament than all other Partys!
    There are Jews,Africans,Slavs,Kurds,Persians,Gays in the party.And many not as normal members but in high Positions!
    The Lesbian WEIDEL had also a Partner from Sri Lanka.Yeah looks like a real Nazi Partys,right?

  22. James Whitney says

    Jan 14, 2019 at 5:36 pm

    Hmm! A new Nazi Germany!

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