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Hugh Fitzgerald: Rashida Tlaib and Jefferson’s Qur’an

Jan 4, 2019 10:00 am By Hugh Fitzgerald

Rashida Tlaib, the newly-elected Democratic congresswoman from Michigan, was sworn in yesterday on the Qur’an once owned by Thomas Jefferson. She claims this Qur’an shows that “Muslims were there at the beginning.” The only thing that Jefferson’s Qur’an shows is that he was curious about all sorts of things, and that, among those things, was Islam. He apparently bought the Qur’an, in the 1734 translation by George Sale, when he was a young man studying law. We do not know when, or even if, he read the book. Rashida Tlaib may think Jefferson’s owning of the Qur’an was a sign of his respect for the faith. The facts suggest otherwise.

We do know that in March 1786, Jefferson and John Adams met in London with the ambassador from Tripoli, Sidi Haji Abdrahaman, to discuss Triopolitanian attacks on American shipping. When they inquired “concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury,” the ambassador replied:

“It was written in their Koran, (that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.”

Jefferson came away from that encounter convinced that the only language these Muslims understood was force, and that any payment to Tripoli, as Abdrarahman had demanded, in order to stop attacks on American shipping, would not work. Jefferson argued that paying tribute would only encourage more attacks. However, even those who agreed with Jefferson thought the American navy was ill-prepared to engage the ships of the Bashaw of Tripoli, and it was not until 1801, when Jefferson had become President, and turned down a demand from the Bashaw for tribute in order to exempt American shipping from Tripolitanian attacks, that the first Barbary War began.

Ever since his encounter in London with Abdrarahman in 1786, Jefferson had taken a dim, and realistic view, of Muslims. He understood that they attacked Christian shipping because they were convinced that they had both a right and a duty to do so. Possibly Rashida Tlaib does not know about his encounter with the envoy from Tripoli. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if among the reporters covering her swearing-in — and with many no doubt gushing over this “first Palestinian-American” member of Congress — there will be at least one intrepid reporter who will remind readers that the Qur’an Jefferson owned was one of 6,487 books his library ultimately included, that he had bought it as a young law student, and that there is no indication that he ever read it, much less ever mentioned it respectfully. Further, Jefferson’s own pugnacity toward the Muslim rulers of North Africa, and his refusal to countenance the payment of tribute to the Bashaw of Tripoli, which led to the First Barbary War, have their roots in his first encounter with a Muslim, the Tripolitanian envoy in London, Sidi Hajj Abdrarahman, who, when Jefferson asked him the reason why Tripoli’s sailors attacked Americans who had done nothing to them, coolly explained that: “It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”

Let’s hope that that important part of Jefferson’s own education in Islam is faithfully reported, especially because of the tendentious political use to which his Qur’an is being put, and not for the first time — Keith Ellison also made a big deal about being sworn in on “Jefferson’s Qur’an.” Americans deserve to know what Jefferson thought both of Islam as a creed, and of Muslims as self-declared enemies (“it was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners…”) of the young Republic. Even Rashida Tlaib could benefit from such a history lesson. It might just dampen her enthusiasm for Jefferson, as she finds out more about our third President.

Finally, it is pleasant to think that among Congressional islamocritics, there might be one who will be bold enough to ask to be sworn in on the Bible that once belonged to John Quincy Adams, in order, that islamocritic could explain, “to pay tribute to the acuity of our most learned President, John Quincy Adams, the defender of the Amistad slaves, and a formidable student of Islam whose views on the faith deserve to be better known among Americans today.”

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  1. Mike says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 10:11 am

    this woman will have NO locality to America this will be our down fall

    • BC says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 5:49 am

      This is just more evidence that Islam has been a protection racket from the earliest times. Pay us money or suffer the consequences of not being Muslims

  2. CTTV15@Hotmail.com says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 10:13 am

    From Dr. Bill Warner: I could NOT have said it better myself..

    “Let’s get the facts straight.

    Fact: It is not Jefferson’s Koran. It is Mohammed’s Koran.

    Fact: Jefferson owned a Koran to understand and defeat the Islamic Barbary Pirates. How many members of Congress have read the Koran & Sunna from cover to cover or have any idea what is written on these pages?

    Fact: We have evidence of our forefathers’ reference to the Koran: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, March 28, 1786

    Fact: Tlaib is swearing her oath on a Koran in which over 20% written in Medina is about violent jihad.

    Fact: Tlaib is swearing her oath on a Koran that has 17% of its text from Mohammed’s time in Medina devoted to Jew hatred.

    Fact: Tlaib is swearing her oath on a Koran that says that Muslims are superior to all and the non-Muslim (Kafir) is lower than animals. It also says a Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir.

    Fact: Tlaib is swearing her oath on a Koran that says wives can be beaten.

    Fact: Ms Tlaib is disingenuous when she says ““I believe in secular government…“ According to Islamic doctrine, a Muslim must be governed by the Allah-inspired Sharia, because Kafir (man-made) secular laws are not worth following. So either she is not a good Muslim or she is using taqiyya, sacred deception, to advance Islam.

    Fact: Tlaib is swearing her oath on a book that declares our U.S. Constitution is NOT the highest law of the land.

    In short, Rashida Tlaib, by swearing her oath on a Koran, commits an act of sedition”.

    • Mccode says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 11:16 am

      Sedition, perjury and taqiya.

      • phinehas says

        Jan 5, 2019 at 1:28 pm

        Sorry for being pedantic

        Taqiya & perjury that proves sedition

        I’m a bit OCD, apologies

        You were right though, just me 🙄

    • Ed says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 1:04 pm

      Thank you for the clarity of what this enemy agent has perpetrated on the US.
      Just more proof that voting Democrat is a mental disease.

    • Allen Sistrunk says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 10:37 am

      Well said Jefferson also put a warning against islam in his Koran he also put in his Koran or said it that the Koran is the ENEMY OF MAN KIND!!!

  3. CTTV15@Hotmail.com says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 10:15 am

    This poor excuse for an American citizen, is Political Islam TRASH, and GUILTY of “sedition”..

    • mortimer says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

      Now she will begin racking up a series of gaffes that will embarrass her own party and make the leaders rue the day they allowed her to be a candidate.

  4. markone1blog says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 10:26 am

    It is unlikely that either Ellison or Tlaib will educate themselves on American history surrounding the Barbary War. With such commonly available illustrations of this conflict available as the Marine Hymn, they should know it — but they don’t.

    Hey, if they just looked back into our common cultural artifacts, they would know the degree of animosity the Barbary Wars built up. My great grandparents had an outhouse in rural Oklahoma that sported a crescent moon on the door of the woman’s stall and a star on the men’s door.

    • They Gain says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 5:18 pm

      Don’t assume Ellison and Tlaib don’t know. Do you think they also don’t know that Islam is a conquest ideology?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 8:59 pm

      A small point, but the crescent moon on the women’s outhouse door is not a reference to Islam. Associating men with the sun (or stars) and women with the moon dates back to before Greek antiquity.

  5. Kilfincelt says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 10:28 am

    Right on! However, even those who know about Jefferson and the first Barbary War fail to understand the true nature of Islam. Witness Brian Kilmeade, who wrote a book about the Barbary Wars, but when he spoke at David Horowitz’s recent Restoration Weekend, he demonstrated a total lack of understanding of Islam. He doesn’t understand that Islamic extremism is the real face of Islam.

  6. dan christensen says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 11:16 am

    How can you swear on a book, whose owner probably had sworn on another holy book, which definitely was not the quaran – but the Christian Bible?
    It simply does not make sense. Jefferson just needed a copy of the quran as a dictionary.
    If I turned into a muslim by owning a quran, I would never acquire it in the first place. This woman possesses an wondrous way of reasoning?

    • abad says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 5:59 pm

      What reasoning would that be?

      There is no logic in Islam and neither are its followers encouraged to learn logic.

      Moslems are told what to believe and think via the Quran.

    • Tom says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 6:04 pm

      I wondered the same thing when the new Arizona Flake replacement senator
      Also used a?
      Copy of the NYT’s

  7. Walter Sieruk says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 11:17 am

    This jihadwatch article about the Qur ‘an that had been owned by President Jefferson, sort of ,a reminder , that at times, Mr. Jefferson and spoken as well as written words of wisdom. Which may even apply to those followers of Islam, who in their sincere but blind and unquestioning faith in Islam are under the total tyrannical mind control of Islam are sadly and tragically unable to think for themselves because of their religion.
    To such a sad and tragic though control of many people because of Islam, the wisdom of Mr. .Jefferson may apply .For he declared “I have sworn upon on the altar of God eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the minds of men.”

  8. mortimer says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 11:35 am

    When we read the quotation from the ambassador above, we already know Jefferson’s opinion of it: “…all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.”

    Jefferson thought as long as religion did not pick a man’s pocket or break his leg, it was of no concern to the state what one believed. Islam does, however, command in its canonical texts that Muslims should pick our pocket and break our legs if we oppose Mohammed and his prophecy or even say something critical of them.

    Jefferson did not expect that millions of Muslims would ever come to America. I have no doubt he would have opposed it. The intolerance, hostility and bigotry of Islam towards the ‘other’ is not a recipe for civil peace and harmony, but for constant annoyance and quarrelling. If not in a hot jihad, Muslims are always in a cold war against the kafirs. The Jihad against the dirty kafirs is either open or concealed but always there.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 5:26 pm

      If you know Islam and you are not a Muslim but nonetheless welcome it into America, you are either terminally stupid or insane.

      • Tom says

        Jan 4, 2019 at 5:33 pm

        I am not entirely sure how Muslims can be citizens given the true meaning of the religion
        It’s not a race but a belief system totally out of sync with the oath she supposedly took.
        If a Muslim swears that oath on the book… do they then toss it it a fire?

        And Palestine is not a state. So how can you be described as such

        Serious question here. Not trying to start an argument

        • thebigW says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 12:29 pm

          “I am not entirely sure how Muslims can be citizens given the true meaning of the religion”

          They can’t be. The only reason there are millions of Muslim citizens in the West (not just USA but Canada, UK, Europe, Australia) is because the West is too stupid to see this.

      • Lu says

        Jan 5, 2019 at 5:44 pm

        … or be a recipient of some benefits from the Cult – namely monies.

  9. jplsr says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 11:59 am

    Obviously Tlaib has not read Sales’ 1737 introduction to the
    Koran as owned by THomas Jefferson. Sales ridicules the document, but presents it so English speakers will understand its errors.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 9:05 pm

      Important point.

    • TheBuffster says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 7:41 am

      Thanks for mentioning that, JPLSR.

      That’s pretty funny.

  10. McCarty says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    would be nice to mention the Marine Corp hymn. It is exactly on pint. Jefferson sent them to Tripoli to stop the Muslims from slave piracy. At one point the US paid close to 25% of our taxes to ransom

    • thebigW says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 1:16 pm

      Where did Hugh Fitzgerald get that quote from?

      “It was written in their Koran, (that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.”

      That ain’t the quote i’ve seen. What I saw was

      “The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

  11. Christian Sweeny says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 12:12 pm

    What does the Holy Koran say about the use of profanity? Perhaps there are devout Muslims in this country who feel that this woman is a poor representative of their religion. There is definitely something wrong with the picture she presents. What kind of people must resort to profanity to attract voters? I agree that she is a typical Democrat.

  12. cjechase says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    The “Jefferson Koran” is a translation by George Sale (1697-1736). But Sale’s book is more than just a Koran translation. It also has a history of Islam. Sale gave Mohammed the benefit of the doubt in Islamic history when he undoubtedly didn’t deserve it, but even with that, Sale let us know what he thought of the veracity of Mohammed’s claims. For instance, here is one of my favorite lines from the book: “Under pretext that this eternal religion was in his time corrupted, and professed in its purity by no one sect of men, Mohammed pretended to be a prophet sent by GOD to reform those abuses which had crept into it…”

    Or how about this one: “It is scarce to be doubted but that Mohammed had a violent desire of being reckoned an extraordinary person, which he could attain to by no means more effectually, than by pretending to be a messenger sent from GOD,…”

    As for Islam, Sale wrote, “It is certainly one of the most convincing proofs that Mohammedism was no other than human invention, that it owed its progress and establishment almost entirely to the sword…”

    The whole book is available for free at Project Gutenberg. A pity the press doesn’t bother to research what they write about.

    • TheBuffster says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 7:45 am

      OMG!!! cjechase, Tlaib swore on that!!! Such irony!

    • James says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 6:02 pm

      There are several editions of it available for free consultation or download, from the 1734 edition to a very nice edition of 1891 (among others) here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=George%20Sale%20Koran

      And here: https://books.google.com A search on “George Sale Koran” turns up several editions.

  13. Don McKellar says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    APPARENTLY SHE DIDN’T.

    I looked into this today because it seemed unlikely she would honour Thomas Jefferson in any way as he was the first American president who fought against moslem tribute money. Donald Trump is now doing the same in cutting off money to moslems. No, this piece of human garbage chose to use her own Koran at the last minute. After lying about Thomas Jefferson, of course.

    https://www.brit.co/rashida-tlaib-swore-her-oath-of-office-on-a-quran-that-belonged-to-thomas-jefferson/

    • TheBuffster says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 7:50 am

      That’s a bit of a shame, Don. I was digging the irony.

      I wonder if she changed her mind because she found out about the blasphemous introduction?

  14. Wellington says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Having done my MA seminar paper (49 pages) in lieu of thesis on Thomas Jefferson’s conception of Christianity, I came to know a good bit about Jefferson’s religious thinking. He expressed his inmost thoughts on religion to several close friends to whom he wrote many letters and they him. Among this handful of friends were Dr. Benjamin Rush, William Short, Peter Carr (his nephew), Dr. Thomas Cooper, James Smith and John Adams (Adams and Jefferson only became real friends after both of their Presidencies).

    First of all, it is not true that Jefferson was an atheist or even an agnostic. He definitely believed in God and thought the teleological argument i.e., argument from design, proof that a Higher Power existed. He also thought highly of Jesus’s ethical teachings but did not think him divine and called the Trinity metaphysical nonsense. He wrote to James Smith in a letter dated December 8th, 1822 the following:

    “…the Athanasian paradox that one is three, and three but one, is so incomprehensible to the human mind, that no candid man can say he has any idea of it, and how can he believe what presents no idea?”

    Jefferson also refused to have a department of theology at the university he founded (University of Virginia). On October 7th, 1814, in a letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper as he was in the process of establishing the University of Virginia, Jefferson wrote, “A professorship of Theology should have no place in our institution.”

    Jefferson rejected all revelation and miracles. To his nephew, Peter Carr, he wrote “…those facts in the Bible which contradict the laws of nature must be examined with more care, and under a variety of faces. Here you must recur to the pretensions of the writer to inspiration from God. Examine upon what evidence his pretensions are founded, and whether that evidence is so strong, as that its falsehood would be more improbable than a change in the laws of nature, in the case he relates.” August 10, 1787 Here, Jefferson mirrors David Hume’s thinking on miracles and revelation. I might add that Jefferson, being the master of ancient Greek that he was, composed what is known as the Jefferson Bible, which is a translation from the Greek New Testament into English of Jesus’s ethical teachings with all the miracles and claims of Jesus’s divinity taken out, which Jefferson thought accretions put in after Jesus’s death.

    Jefferson had a particular distaste for Saint Paul and John Calvin and revealed this in several letters of his. But what was most important to Jefferson was religious freedom and this is why he was so proud of his authoring the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom. Indeed, on his tombstone he directed that only three achievements of his be carved in it. They were his authorship of the Declaration of Independence and the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom and his founding of the University of Virginia. He wanted nothing else –not of his being Governor of Virginia, Minister to France, Secretary of State, Vice-President of the United States of America, President of the United States of America, et al.

    Since Jefferson had no respect for religious intolerance, as well as not believing at all in miracles and revelation, I have zero doubt that Jefferson would have looked upon Mohammed as a despicable, contemptible individual. It is simply not in keeping with who Jefferson was that he could ever have admired a man like Mohammed. Thus, what an irony that any Muslim being sworn in as a member of Congress would take their oath on Jefferson’s copy of the Koran.

    • abad says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm

      IOW, Jefferson followed Thomas Paine, the ONE man who enabled our nation to have a Revolution, the ONE man who enabled our nation to have Founding Fathers.

      It is highly regrettable so many American are clueless about Paine and his position on religions, why he was never buried in a cemetery, and why his writings should today be read more than ever before.

      The First Amendment can be traced directly back to Paine; so can the Second Amendment.

      It is genuinely sad that Paine is no longer mentioned in school history books, barely in passing. But I suppose that would go against the social engineering of the NEA.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 4, 2019 at 7:59 pm

        I am not as high on Paine as you are, abad. Thomas Jefferson anticipated his own Declaration of Independence, written in late June of 1776, by a pamphlet he wrote back in 1774 and thus long before Paine’s Common Sense, advocating independence, which was published in January of 1776. Moreover, Paine denigrated George Washington both as a military commander and as our first President (in my opinion, America’s greatest President with the exception of Abraham Lincoln). Also, Benjamin Franklin, though himself a skeptic, saw the worthwhile of religion for society at large which Paine dismissed as irrelevant. As Franklin observed to Paine, “If men are wicked with religion, what would they be without it?” Islam, of course, would be the exception to this sapient rule proffered by Franklin to Paine.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 4, 2019 at 9:11 pm

        Good posts, Wellington.

    • James says

      Jan 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm

      I heard Jefferson was a Deist. Which puts him with Voltaire and Paine, rather than with an English Anglican like Joseph Butler, or an American Episcopalian like Samuel Seabury.

      • Wellington says

        Jan 5, 2019 at 7:28 pm

        It’s not exactly accurate, James. Deists thought that some Higher Power was responsible for creating the universe and then “walked away,” leaving the universe on auto pilot. Jefferson was a Unitarian (though officially an Episcopalian to the end of his days—Abraham Lincoln, alone among all Presidents, never officially belonged to any sect) who saw more involvement in man’s destiny than a pure Deist did.

    • somehistory says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 1:56 pm

      Thank you, Wellington, for the information.
      Some of it I had read elsewhere. I agree with him about the existence of God through the “argument of design.” And other reasons of my own.

      I also am not a believer in the Trinity for the same reasons, and more, that Jefferson gave.
      I believe that “divine” has the basic meaning of “God-Like” and since Isaiah lists “Mighty God” as a title for Jesus, I am kind of alone in my thinking on this issue.

      Thanks again, for the information on Jefferson. It is a good thing that he was a letter writer. That is almost a lost art.

  15. James Lincoln says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 4:53 pm

    Wellington,

    Much thanks for your very informative post.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 5:14 pm

      You’re welcome, James. I am certain that not only would Jefferson be repelled by the character of Mohammed, he would have been disgusted by the massive intolerance that is exhibited on most every page of the Koran. There is simply no way that Jefferson would have, could have, respected the character of the founder of Islam or Islam itself. Everything that made Jefferson the man he was would find him repulsed by so many things Islamic. As I am. As you are. As so many are.

  16. jewdog says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 4:56 pm

    I’m pleased that Rashida Tlaib has already shown herself to be ignorant and arrogant, and vulgar. It’s good for Americans to get acquainted with some real Muslim specimens.

  17. 762x51FMJ says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    Wanted:
    widowed or divorced US women with at least 3 daughters to house a Syrian child in your home.
    You wiil receive your 26 year old infant next week.
    Homes with a large cutlery collection arr preferred. .

    • 762x51FMJ says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 6:37 pm

      wenn wir unsere eigenen Attentäter importieren. Wir können mehr Steuern zahlen.

  18. LytchZam says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    Tlaib may or may not be ignorant of Jefferson’s thoughts on Islam, but this is more like spiking the ball and celebrating in the end-zone, doing an in-your-face insult.

  19. gravenimage says

    Jan 4, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    Hugh Fitzgerald: Rashida Tlaib and Jefferson’s Qur’an
    …………………………

    Swearing to protect the Constitution on a book that mandates destroying the Constitution and all it stands for.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 4, 2019 at 9:41 pm

      Yep.

  20. Kepha says

    Jan 5, 2019 at 1:00 am

    Jefferson was a curious an literate man–and I thoroughly disagree with scissors-and-paste job on the Gospels–not a closet Muslim. Why do people assume Jefferson was pro-Islam simply because he owned a translated Koran? It is because our current crop of [mis-]educated young believe that everyone was always as closed-minded as they are.

  21. Anne Smith says

    Jan 5, 2019 at 6:34 am

    Some wonderfully interesting and informative comments here. It has been very instructive to read them,particularly the excellent piece on Thomas Jefferson’s attitude to religion.
    I believe the US Marines gained their nickname of Leathernecks after the leather collars they wore to prevent decapitation from the attacking Barbary pirates.
    It is a great shame that American history is not more widely taught and understood.

  22. james reid says

    Jan 5, 2019 at 2:03 pm

    Excellent comments above condemning Islam & its adherents. Strange Muslim MEN think is an advancement as they view women only fit as chattels & baby making machines. They do not have the intellect or capacity for Government. AS John Quincy Adams said, “….Mohammed declared undistinguishing & exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against the rest of mankind…. The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mohammed is the prophet of God…….. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINEWAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.” [JQA’s own capitals].. Thomas Jefferson was no fan of Islam either.

  23. Charles says

    Jan 5, 2019 at 10:52 pm

    It’s time to clarify the 1st Amendment. Offered below is my proposal for a 28th Amendment:

    Amendment XXVIII [proposed]

    Section 1. The free exercise of religion shall not be construed to limit or prevent peaceful opposition to, or criticism of, any religion or religious idea; nor shall such opposition or criticism be held to create criminal or civil liability or be held to be a cause of violence perpetrated by others.

    Section 2. The free exercise of religion shall not be construed to impose, or allow to be imposed, an obligation of any kind, monetary or otherwise, for the benefit of a religion or sect or its followers on persons or organizations not subscribing to that religion or sect, whether regarding employment, education, or any other sphere of activity.

    [WHY NEEDED: The First Amendment has been perverted to allow the imposition of religious tenets on those not practicing the religion. Islamic organizations in particular have been strong-arming non-Muslim employers, educational organizations, and many others to accommodate, at their own expense, Islamic religious practices. Freedom of religion, if it is to have any real meaning, must protect the freedom of all to disassociate themselves from the religious ideas of some.]

    • No sharia says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 1:37 am

      Ha ha …your amendment would be strongly opposed…By Christian denominations

  24. No sharia says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 1:34 am

    The author lies when he says “they attacked Christian shipping” Not true! They attacked American shipping….we have a separation of church and state!

  25. libertyORdeath says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 10:02 pm

    Not sure if its been mentioned, but maybe Talib knows EXACTLY what she’s doing by using a quran once owned by a founding father to be sworn in. She may feel that this is the first step in the plan to infiltrate the American government at the highest level. This is exactly why our forward looking founders created a democratic REPUBLIC which would not be able to be taken over by sheer numbers as would be possible in a direct democracy. I do worry however that with the blatant disrespect for the constitution on the left, we may see a time when these principles are changed. This despite the intention that the constitution would be immutable and always remain the basis for all other matters in this great country.

    Yet another example of the foes of American freedom using this liberty to chip away at our very foundation. We must defend what makes this country the greatest nation in the history of the world and never let phases and fads compromise the integrity of our principles. Im personally fine with a muslim, hindu or any other religious member of Congress, as long as they put America before religion and the constitution before the quran or any other doctrine.

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