And the Turkish government to this day has never admitted any of these facts.
“Israeli historians’ new study claims 30-year genocide against Anatolian Christians,” Ahval, January 17, 2019:
The Christian population that had made up one fifth of the Ottoman Empire’s population was wiped out in waves of violence by successive Ottoman and Turkish republican governments that left Christians a tiny minority in Anatolia, two Israeli scholars have said in a new study.
The controversy over the killings of the Armenian Christian minority living in Anatolia during the last days of the Ottoman Empire is already well known – while the majority of the scholarly community and many international states recognise the killings as genocide, Turkey accepts that killings took place but rejects they constituted a genocide.
Israeli historians Benny Morris and Dror Ze’evi’s new book, “The Thirty Year Genocide,” makes the even more striking claim that genocide was committed over a thirty year period between 1894 and 1924 against not only the Armenians but against all Ottoman Christian communities.
In an interview with Israeli newspaper Haaretz about the book, Morris quoted the book as saying that between 1.5 million and 2.5 million Christians were killed during this period, basing this figure on the work of Turkish, Armenian and Greek statisticians.
“Our conclusion that between 1.5 and 2.5 million Christians were murdered, from 1894 to 1924, is a cautious estimate,” Morris said.
“(The) killing of two million Christians was effected through the calculated exhortation of the Turks to create a pure Muslim nation,” the book’s blurb on the website of its publisher, Harvard University Press, reads.
Morris says the founder of the Republic of Turkey, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, was responsible for “the liquidation of the last Armenians who remained in Turkey,” as well as hundreds of thousands of Greek and Assyrian Christians.
“Although Ataturk is considered to have been anti-Islamic, he mobilized Islam to execute that scheme, and he is the one who did away with the remnants of the Christian communities in Turkey. Nonetheless, the charge of ethnic cleansing never stuck to him,” Morris said….
Tom says
Christian genocide. Soon coming to a Western nation near you!
P. Douglas says
Yet another Horror perpetrated by the “Children of Satan”!
When you grovel before and worship THE DEVILS, all manner of evil is justified by your “god”!
PUTRID!
Krishna says
Such killings happened throughout history and more than 100 million Hindus, Christians, Buddhist, polytheists and jews killed that way and no one knows
gravenimage says
True, Krishna.
Walter Sieruk says
Those violent and vicious jihad –minded Muslims in their murderous persecution of Christians aren’t really going to get away with their destruction of Christians. As the apostle Paul had written each individual Christian is actually, in the View of God, a temple of God. For to Christians, it is written in the Bible “Don’t you know that that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? If anyone destroys God’s Temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.” First Corinthians 3:16,17. [N.I.V.] As in “A man reaps what he sows.” Galatians 6:7.
Paul J says
+ 1
black adder says
People should be more often reminded of the multiple genocides the Turks have committed (Assyrians, Greeks, Armenians). The funny thing is that most Turks are really proud of their history and they do not feel the need to apologize for the crimes of their ancestors. It’s even funnier that their clown sultan Er-dog-an, is lecturing the west about “tolerance”.
gravenimage says
The first is how Muslim Turks really feel; the second is Taqiyya meant to spread Islam in the West.
Lydia Church says
The church has been persecuted since day one from the enemy through all of his puppets and servants throughout history. This is another such case and many have been buried or brushed over by those who would rather we did not know. There is such a long list throughout church history from all over the world. I’m not trying to diminish this but to magnify the extent to which this sort of thing does occur and we don’t hear about it. I just try to honor all of them. It was genocide and they were martyrs for the faith. If those who murdered these Christians likewise perished, in that case it would not be genocide, but justice and punishment from God.
And this is what is happening nowadays too for similar agendas:
“Although Ataturk is considered to have been anti-Islamic, he mobilized Islam to execute that scheme,…”
You don’t have to be a muslim to use the islamic army as a resource to attain your goals and fulfill your agenda.
mortimer says
Proofs of Armenian Genocide:
1) In May 1915, Mehmet Talaat Pasha requested that the cabinet and Grand Vizier Said Halim Pasha legalize a measure for the deportation of Armenians to other places due to what Talaat Pasha called “the Armenian riots and massacres, which had arisen in a number of places in the country”.
2) Henry Morgenthau, Sr., U.S. Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire Ambassador, 1919:
‘When the Turkish authorities gave the orders for these deportations, they were merely giving the death warrant to a whole race; they understood this well, and, in their conversations with me, they made no particular attempt to conceal the fact. . . . I am confident that the whole history of the human race contains no such horrible episode as this. The great massacres and persecutions of the past seem almost insignificant when compared to the sufferings of the Armenian race in 1915.’
3) One of the triumvirate rulers publicly declared on 19 May 1916…
‘The Ottoman Empire should be cleaned up of the Armenians and the Lebanese. We have destroyed the former by the sword, we shall destroy the latter through starvation.’
4) In a conversation with Dr. Mordtmann of the German Embassy in June 1915…
‘Turkey is taking advantage of the war in order to thoroughly liquidate (grundlich aufzaumen) its internal foes, i.e., the indigenous Christians, without being thereby disturbed by foreign intervention. What on earth do you want? The question is settled. There are no more Armenians.’
5) Cemal Pasha, Minister of the Interior of Turkey publicly declared that on the basis of computations undertaken by Ministry Experts…
‘800,000 Armenian deportees were actually killed…by holding the guilty accountable the government is intent on cleansing the bloody past.’
6) Prince Abdul Mecid (heir-apparent to the Ottoman Throne, during an interview and later Caliph of Islam until 1924) said, “I refer to those awful massacres. They are the greatest stain that has ever disgraced our nation and race. They were entirely the work of Talat and Enver. I heard some days before they began that they were intended. I went to Istanbul and insisted on seeing Enver. I asked him if it was true that they intended to recommence the massacres which had been our shame and disgrace under Abdul Hamid. The only reply I could get from him was: ‘It is decided. It is the program.’”
7) Mustafa Arif, Minister of Interior stated on 13 December 1918…
“Surely a few Armenians aided and abetted our enemy, and a few Armenian Deputies committed crimes against the Turkish nation… it is incumbent upon a government to pursue the guilty ones. Unfortunately, our wartime leaders, imbued with a spirit of brigandage, carried out the law of deportation in a manner that could surpass the proclivities of the most bloodthirsty bandits. They decided to exterminate the Armenians, and they did exterminate them.’
8) German Ambassador (Count Wolff-Metternich) to the Ottoman Empire July 10, 1916, cable to the German Chancellor: ‘In its attempt to carry out its purpose to resolve the Armenian question by the destruction of the Armenian race, the Turkish government has refused to be deterred neither by our representations, nor by those of the American Embassy, nor by the delegate of the Pope, nor by the threats of the Allied Powers, nor in deference to the public opinion of the West representing one-half of the world.’
9) Prof. Colin Tatz, Director, Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies
‘ The Turkish denial [of the Armenian Genocide] is probably the foremost example of historical perversion. With a mix of academic sophistication and diplomatic thuggery — of which we at Macquarie University have been targets — the Turks have put both memory and history into reverse gear.’
10) Stanley Cohen, Professor of Criminology, Hebrew University, Jerusalem:
‘ The nearest successful example [of collective denial] in the modern era is the 80 years of official denial by successive Turkish governments of the 1915-17 genocide against the Armenians in which 1.5 million people lost their lives. This denial has been sustained by deliberate propaganda, lying and cover-ups, forging documents, suppression of archives, and bribing scholars.’
Note: I personally believe the figure of the genocides totals about 3 MILLION OTTOMAN CHRISTIANS.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–there is ample historical proof of the Armenian Genocide–including from Turkish sources.
This is, in fact, the most copiously chronicled genocide save for the Holocaust.
christianblood says
mortimer
You hypocrite and hater of Christ, why are pretending to love Christians when you have a track record of doing the opposite? Jesus addressed the likes of you when he said:
(..Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence…)
(St. Matthew 23:25)
Terry Gain says
Cb
I note that you resort to an ad hominem attack On Mortimer. I assume you can’t dispute Mortimer’s facts. Your attacks are disgraceful.
christianblood says
Terry Gain
As you may have noticed Terry, I NEVER, ever attack others in such a personal way but this anti-Christ tribal-minded (mortimer) has attacked me personally on numerous times, even telling me to drop my “christianblood” screen moniker! No doubt, this M.F. lowlife thought my screen moniker is a threat to his gang of “khazarian” hollywoodized globalist thugs?
Ernie says
“Christianblood” , your last sentence here proves again you’re a racist . Your remarks are ANTI-SEMITIC . AND NOW I WANT YOU REMOVED FROM THIS BLOG . Shame on YOU , “christianblood”!
Ernie says
YOU are a LIAR , “christianblood “. You’ve attacked me many times in the same disgusting personal way .
christianblood says
Ernie
You are a liar, Ernie, I only deal with messages when I have to criticize, I never attack people personally! May be you don’t see the difference between the message and the messenger! I am not really surprised at your words though, because I already know you sold your soul to the liberal globalist thugs. You call your self a Christian but you hate me and side with haters of Christ! You have to remember, if you are a true Christian you would have obeyed the words of Jesus who commanded
His followers to above all, love one another as a sign of their faith in HIm. Jesus says,
“…A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you MUST love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another…” John 13:34-35
This creature you are supporting (mortimer) told me a number of times to drop my “christianblood” screen name and hates me for that! Shame on you, Ernie!
Ernie says
I hate evil , and you are evil , “christianblood”. So yes , I hate you .
christianblood says
Ernie
You don’t hate me, (I am no body) but you hate the Truth. You hate Christ! You sold you to the devil and his lies!
christianblood says
Ernie
Not me but This is the Truth you Hate:
WESTERN WORLD AND THE (HOLLYWOODIZED) POLITICALLY-CORRECT LEFTIST ELITES THAT RUN IT HATE CHRISTIANS, LOVE ISLAMISTS, INCLUDING ISLAMIST JIHADISTS WHICH THEY LOVE, ARM, FUND AND TRAIN AND THEY ARE ALSO SPREADING IMMORALITIES AND SATANIC (LGBTQ) AGENDA AROUND THE WORLD!
THAT IS THE TRUTH YOU REALLY, REALLY HATE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWGD4DV71pA
Ernie says
“christianblood” , as usual , you’re bearing false witness against me , you’re falsely connecting me to things and accusing me of things and matters that I have nothing to do with . That’s evil , ” christianblood “. It shows your malicious destructive intentions . And you have the arrogance to preach and to berate me . How deep you’ve fallen .
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
Ernie
You are a liar, Ernie, I only deal with messages when I have to criticize, I never attack people personally! May be you don’t see the difference between the message and the messenger! I am not really surprised at your words though, because I already know you sold your soul to the liberal globalist thugs. You call your self a Christian but you hate me and side with haters of Christ!
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This is nuts–when has Ernie *ever* indicated any of these things? Citations, please.
Like Mortimer, Ernie is a staunch Anti-Jihadist, and has been here for many years–much longer than christianblood, in fact.
christianblood says
Ernie
Don’t misunderstand me. I am not saying you are these things or that you do these things. What I am saying is that you hate me for speaking out and pointing out the TRUTH which is, (listen this):
Western world and the hollywoodized leftist elites that run it hate Christians, love islamists, including islamist jihadists which they fund, train, support and arm and they are also spreading immoralities and satanic “LGBTQ” agenda around the world!
You hate me for saying that Truth and therefore you hate the Truth and you are offended by it and “gravenimage” and many others are is the same like you! You guys hate the Truth, all of you!
Ernie says
Thank you for your support , Gravenimage . It’s highly appreciated ! ( and so are you ! ).
christianblood says
Ernie
Like you, Graven hates the Truth and you are both deeply hollywoodized and your souls sold to the devil and you hate the Truth which is Christ! Below is the false god of perversion, immorality and satanism that you love to worship:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
gravenimage says
christianblood keeps posting this ridiculous video, which I have never described as anything but silly. When have I–or Ernie–ever said that we worship this absurd person? What rot.
And there is a reason that christianblood has to keep posting this same video–because the idea that there are hordes of transgendered grownups living as ‘adult children’ in the West is ludicrous, This is a complete outlier.
I have just said that I don’t think that gay people should be murdered.
christianblood has never said this–even when directly asked to. But he has applauded Shari’ah law in Chehcnya, which does murder gays. It also persecutes Christians, which he seems fine with.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Ernie.
christianblood says
gravenimage
Both you and Ernie are liberals and you worship that and support that kind of life style and see it as ‘freedom’ and democracy! As leftists both of you hate the Truth and are drunk with political-correctness and with ignorance!
gravenimage says
No, I don’t support this–I just don’t think people should be murdered for it. Ridiculed and mocked, yes–but not harmed.
How is ridiculing this “worshipping” it? How does this make any sense?
And yes–I am a “Liberal” in that I condemn the horrors of Shari’ah law–something christianblood will not do.
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
mortimer
You hypocrite and hater of Christ, why are pretending to love Christians when you have a track record of doing the opposite?
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Actually, Mortimer has a years-long track record of supporting *all* victims of Jihad, including Christians.
Where can christianblood point to any posts of Mortimer’s where he does not? Citations, please.
More, in reply to Terry Gain:
Terry Gain
As you may have noticed Terry, I NEVER, ever attack others in such a personal way but this anti-Christ tribal-minded (mortimer) has attacked me personally on numerous times, even telling me to drop my “christianblood” screen moniker! No doubt, this M.F. lowlife thought my screen moniker is a threat to his gang of “khazarian” hollywoodized globalist thugs?
………………………
As I have noted many times, Mortimer only questioned christianblood’s username because he makes light of the persecution of Christians and other Infidels under Iran, Hezb’allah, and Chechnya.
Now for the past several days christianblood has made increasingly unhinged attacks on Mortimer, saying he belongs to an “anti-Christ tribe”, hates all “goyim”, and is plotting the mass slaughter of all Christians.
This is quite insane. It is also disturbingly antisemitic–never mind that Mortimer has never said that he is Jewish, in any case. That makes this all the more bizarre.
Now he is ranting about “Khazars”–something that you mostly hear from Jihadists trying to discredit the existence of Israel.
But then, christianblood has many times lauded Jihad terror against Israel, screaming “God bless Hezb’allah!”. All very disturbing.
mortimer says
The BloodthirstyPseudo-Christian does not PRACTICE THE GOLDEN RULE so he has left Christianity and embraced a form of genocidal Satanism. The devil is a MURDERER.
I call on the BloodthirstyPseudo-Christian to REPENT and beg God to PURIFY HIS HEART FROM GENOCIDAL RAGE.
christianblood says
mortimer
I am neither blood-thirsty nor genocidal and you don’t have any prove of any that! I understand that the evil, anti-Christ spirit that is working within you, I can see its hateful manifestations and nature! It is the same spirit that made you to tell me drop my “christianblood” moniker a number of times! It is the spirit of the Anti-Christ that made your forefathers to crucify the Logos which is the Christ the Son of God! The same spirit is working in you and you need to repent and turn to Christ and reject this evil spirit that is pushing you to unfairly attack me and hate me and hate the Christ that is within me and please understand that Jesus Is Lord, and with Him, I am a winner because I am for the Truth, and the Truth is the Christ and it also in me and it CANNOT BE DEFEATED BY THE GATES OF HELL!
gravenimage says
christianblood wrote:
It is the spirit of the Anti-Christ that made your forefathers to crucify the Logos which is the Christ the Son of God!
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Is this more ranting against the Jews?
christianblood says
Graven
You are an anti-Christ, truth-hating bloody leftist! You are like a kid and this is the type of thing you would enjoy, Graven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I don’t think that christinblood is actually a murderer, nor has he ever preached genocide to my knowledge.
He does want to see us all conquered by Muslims, but that is a different matter.
gravenimage says
Why is christianblood pretending that I approve of dysfunctional “adult children”? I have said before that this is silly at best, and perverse at worst.
Ernie says
“Christianblood”, I told you before , I’ve nothing to do with this cross-dressing infantile idiot and his enablers , that you keep on presenting here . It simply isn’t my business . You are deliberately making false accusations against Mortimer , Gravenimage , me , and “The West”- in general . Making false accusations and twisting THE TRUTH at every turn with the aim to harm/destroy is EVIL , “christianblood” ; your blatant anti-semitism is EVIL , “christianblood “. You are a Russian-NAZI , ” christianblood “, and I hate NAZIS , because I hate EVIL .
christianblood says
Ernie
The simple fact is you hate the Truth and that Truth is the West is satanic, pro-ISIS entity that spreads and promotes immoralities and transgenderism and you hate me and calling me names for pointing out that fact!
christianblood says
gravenimage
Graven is not a bad person but she is liberal she don’t like me for criticizing the West and its pro-Islamist agenda! Graven has NO clue of the spiritual forces of darkness that are working behind scenes of people like “mortimer”
for as the Saint Paul says in the New Testament:
(..The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit..) 1 Corinthians 2:14
It is amazing that in the world, if you speak the Truth everybody hates you and you are called names. Isn’t that what they did to Jesus, called Him names, even calling Satan and finally tortured Him and crucifing Him for the sake of the Truth that He was and spoke of?
St. John 8-9
gravenimage says
christianblood condoning the persecution of Christians by Iran, Hizb’allah, and Chechnya and having other people point out that fact does *not* make him Jesus, I’m afraid, nor is pointing this out tantamount to crucifixion.
christianblood says
gravenimage
Hezbollah protects Christians, it is rather satanic America and its Saudi, Israeli and Nato allies that support jihadists, Hezbollah fights them! Shame on you for ignoring this fact!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=SFuyb3nimfY
gravenimage says
Lebanon was majority-Christian before “Palestinian” Christians flooded in and began a Jihad in the early 1970s. Now the nation is largely under the heel of Islamic Hezb’allah, which was not founded to “protect Christians”, but rather to destroy Israel.
As for Hezb’allah fighting Jihadists, they themselves are Jihadists.
Then as to Rania Khalek, she writes for Al Jazeera and was associate editor for The Electronic Intifada, a site dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
christianblood says
Rania Khalek exposes US and Saudi jihadist proxies in Syria and the US and Saudi-backed genocide against the Houthi Shiite minority in Yemen and that is why you hate her!
gravenimage says
I am not a fan of Jihadists, nor do I support the Jihad against Israel.
I am no fan of Muslims slaughtering other Muslims, either–but the claim that it is the United States that is actually waging Jihad is absurd.
gravenimage says
“Killing of two million Christians was effected through the exhortation of the Turks to create a pure Muslim nation”
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Very true–I will look for this book.
And I have many times stressed both that the Armenian Genocide was not a single event, but went on in waves for several decades–and under the Ottoman Empire, the “Young Turks”, and even continued under Attaturk.
And also that while the Armenians were the biggest group of victims, that Greek, Assyrian, and Levantine Christians–*all* Christians in Turkey–were also targeted.
somehistory says
islam is evil, straight from satan the devil and used as a weapon against the children of his enemy. His enemy is our Creator, Almighty God and His Son, Jesus Christ.
It is well known that when an evil creature cannot get to the “father,” the evil one will attack the “children.” satan cannot fight against The Father or The Son, so he attacks their “children” on earth.
This will continue until God puts an end to satan and his evil creation. He has “set a Day” to do this, and that Day approaches.
Ekondig G says
I remember Bat Ye’or writing about this. I think it was in “The Decline of Eastern Christianity under islam”. As I recall, she wrote that in the C19th, if you added up the populations of Armenians, Greeks and Slavs (I notice there’s no mention of Slavs here) in Turkey they came to a slight majority in population. She wasn’t clear (maybe didn’t have the data) how much was genocide and how much was ethnic cleansing. But the fact remains that from a majority in the C19th, the Christian population dropped vertiginously down to a small minority in the early C20th after WWI. That’s horrendous…
gravenimage says
Ekondig, the reason there is no mention of the Slavs in this article is that by the time of the Armenian Genocide beginning in the last years of the 19th century the the Slavs had fought their way free of the Muslim heel.
Christians still made up a significant minority, though–after 1922, they made up just a tiny minority in Turkey, as is true today.
tim gallagher says
So they were out to create a “pure Muslim nation”. What they meant was that they wanted to create a nation of unadulterated, satanic, barbaric evil.