I oppose all “hate speech” laws. What constitutes “hate” is a subjective judgment. Whoever gets to decide what is and isn’t “hate speech” essentially controls the public discourse, and there is no longer a free society. What’s more, this case shows that “hate speech” laws are essentially tools to protect Islam and Muslims from criticism; they don’t really apply to any other group or belief system.
“Norway Rules ‘F**k Jews’ Remark by Muslim Rapper is Not Hate Speech,” Sputnik News, January 11, 2019 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Norwegian Muslim rapper Kaveh, who was accused of inciting racism for saying “f**k Jews” during a concert last summer, said the remark was taken out of context and misinterpreted, insisting that he is neither a racist nor an anti-Semite.
After reviewing the report filed against 23-year-old rapper Kaveh over allegations of inciting anti-Semitism during a family concert last summer, Norwegian police found no evidence of hate speech and decided to close the case, the Dagen Christian newspaper reported.
During the Haugen Festival in Oslo, Kaveh congratulated fellow Muslims on the end of Ramadan, an Islamic month in which followers of the religion fast for much of the day. He proceeded to ask if there were any Christians or Jews present in the public. After a short break, he said “F**k Jews”. After yet another pause he added “Nah, just kidding”, provoking condemnation from both concert-goers and the event’s organisers.
However, police saw no reason to press charges or push for a trial.
“The way it was framed, it falls within the artistic freedom of speech which artists and performers enjoy in making provocative or satirical statements,” the police ruled, as quoted by the newspaper.
State Attorney Trude Antonsen backed the police’s assessment. Backing the decision to close the case, she deemed Kaveh’s statement as “highly derogatory, offensive and false”. Nevertheless, she added, it is not affected by the criminal code….
Kaveh later stated that the quote was taken out of context and misinterpreted.
“I’m not a racist, and I’m not a Jew-hater,” he assured.
Kaveh Kholardi is an Oslo-based rapper, songwriter, artist and producer of Iranian ancestry. He is a practising Muslim…
Geoffrey de Brito says
So, if a white male entertainer at a concert in Norway asks, “any Muslims here? Then yells into his microphone “F**k Muslims!” and then after a bit says “Nah, just kidding” they won’t be charged with ‘hate speech’ either… right? Sure…
Kepha says
Ja, hvis!
This is why every American should resist and vote out Dems. It is why the person they should be impeaching is Justice ELena Kagan, the defender of campu speech codes.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Massive swarm of locusts plagues Mecca (PHOTOS, VIDEOS)”
https://www.rt.com/news/448614-locust-swarm-plagues-mecca/
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/11/watch-locust-swarm-descends-on-meccas-grand-mosque/
tedh754 says
Plague of locusts? You mean the yearly pilgrimage?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Good one!
No the Biblical kind.
jule says
A real locust plague. Just like the story of Egypt. The Holy place of Islam struck with a plague of locusts.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“‘NewsGuard’ app gives news sites ‘trust’ ratings & targets alternative media. What could go wrong?”
https://www.rt.com/usa/448555-newsguard-app-fake-news/
GFYS says
well then fuck all the MUSLIMS
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Trudeau confirms Saudi asylum seeker coming to Canada”
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trudeau-confirms-saudi-asylum-seeker-coming-to-canada-1.4249312
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/freeland-welcomes-brave-new-canadian-as-saudi-teen-lands-in-toronto-1.4250934
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Man booed at Trudeau town hall for ‘Christianity and Islam don’t mix’ remark”
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/man-booed-at-trudeau-town-hall-for-christianity-and-islam-don-t-mix-remark-1.4249600
Rufolino says
Nothing could be clearer than that Islam and Christianity “don’t mix”.
The Koran declares war on Christians.
All kinds of people don’t want the public to know this truth.
Guy Jones says
What else is new? If I had a dime for every time a Muslim’s violence and belligerence towards Jews in Europe was rationalized, whitewashed and otherwise excused, by the politicians, the courts and the media, I’d be richer than Jeff Bezos.
What’s interesting is that I would submit that the motivation behind this feckless behavior on the part of the European courts and politicians is less motivated by anti-Semitic animus, and, more motivated by a transparent moral cowardice and a fear of upsetting the restive Muslim hordes.
Which demonstrates that the dangers of allowing Muslims to gain a “critical mass” in any country are legion, and, go far beyond the supremacism, violence, intolerance, belligerence and totalitarianism that Muslims naturally bring with them; the dangers include the moral corruption and bankruptcy of ruling politicians and the courts, who kowtow to Muslims’ sentiments, in an effort to curry favor with them and avoid “rocking the boat.” Which is simply servile dhimmitude, at the end of the day.
b.a. freeman says
… moral corruption … of ruling politicians and the courts, who kowtow to Muslims’ sentiments …
—
given the ferocity of the left in the defense of pious muslims, and knowing that they are are *anything* but stupid, and also knowing of their lust for total power, i can only theorize that they *KNOW* that islam is poisonous, and approve of the random attacks on innocents by pious muslims. it is very hard for me to believe in any other possibility. in fact, i rather suspect that the hard left is making deliberate use of the pious muslims statistically guaranteed to be among muslim migrants to destabilize society in every country whose leaders can be browbeaten into admitting the same. after all, when does the hard left actually manage to take power – but other than when chaos is rampant?
this time, it looks like the left has won. europe is all but lost, although a few countries in the east may survive for a while. the americas are close on the heels of europe. in fact, it appears to me that the leftist delusion has infected almost every republic, and all have subsequently been infected with islam. unless God Himself intervenes with another great awakening, i would feel safe saying that the extinction of civilization is imminent. “interesting times” really suck, so i encourage all to obey the law and prepare for the collapse.
Guy Jones says
Also, I’d add that there is a seriously Orwellian and tragic irony occurring in Europe, today, when legitimate criticism of Islam’s intrinsic supremacism, totalitarianism and belligerence are criminalized as alleged “hate speech,” punishable by jail and fines, but, expressions of Muslims Jew-hatred are given official state sanction and protection.
One wonders, at this point, what the hell was the point of winning WWII and the Cold War, if European countries seem intent on squandering that hard-fought and costly “peace dividend,” by submitting to the bootheel of Islamic totalitarianism.
Anjuli Pandavar says
To which I’d further add: “They [the Euro-Arab Dialogue in it’s 1995 Barcelona Declaration] emphasised the fight against racism, xenophobia, and intolerance—concepts which evidently were nothing more than euphemisms for the suppression of any criticism that Muslims would find offensive, since Judeophobia, Christianophobia, and anti-Americanism had never been as flagrant in Europe as in the emerging Euro-Arab culture.” (Bat Ya’or, Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis).
There is no inconsistency, no contradiction, no ignorance and no naivety here. It is all very carefully, very consciously orchestrated, from the 1973 oil crisis, step-by-step through every single ME and ME-related crisis, including the Gulf Wars, all the way through to the OIC attempts to ban free speech at the global level, all of it. If this were a conspiracy theory, it’d be a damn good one. Unfortunately, it is not a conspiracy theory. It all very very real, pushed by real people with real names, gathered at real meetings in real locations, taking real decisions affecting the lives of real people: us. With tenacious, impeccable research, Bat Ye’or has done the world an incredible service here. We may be able to heed her warnings, but we can never repay her.
b.a. freeman says
+1
Rufolino says
A very good question, Guy.
gravenimage says
The fact that we fought against evil before is not immaterial–it means we can *do it again*.
Jim says
I was standing in an elevator in an hotel in Bahrain with a few folks. Looking at a backpack that was mounted to a marine in front of me on one of the straps what appeared to be Arabic writing but wasn’t. At a closer look it said “F Islam”. I was thinking, man that guys has some balls! lol..
This is actually good, that is not considered hate speech. Now apply it in all directions and we will be fine.
Rufolino says
I live in S.Italy. I wear two badges. One says “INFIDEL”. The other has a Cross and says, “In This Sign Conquer”. They are on my second-hand field-jacket.
People sometimes laugh at me and say, “you think there is a war on ?”
Given the chance I explain the situation. Few people understand what I’m talking about. When I say, the immigration situation can’t go on like this, they tend to respond positively.
mortimer says
Jew Hatred Found in the Koran
The Koran depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims. The Koran says: Jews are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); they fabricate things and falsely ascribe them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); they claim that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); they love to listen to lies (5:41); they disobey Allah and never observe his commands (5:13). They are disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more. Jews are under Allah’s curse (9:30), and Muslims should wage war against Jews and subjugate them under Islamic hegemony (9:29).
jule says
I am firm on the FACT that Qur’an/Hadiths should not be taught to anyone as Allah’s will. Its incitement, persecution, slander and genocidal hate speech. To TEACH this to millions of people as the way they have to think is a Crime. I do not care what people dribble about ‘free speech’ this is not Free. Would anyone have stood up for Hitler to just be using his free speech except a naziterrorist, White Aryan Supremacist, maybe KKKlan And Islam. This is not and never was part of Freedom (or free speech)
mortimer says
If ‘F*** JEWS’ is not considered hate speech, then change the words to ‘F*** Muslims* or ‘F*** Somalians’ or ‘F*** Arabs’. By changing the target, would is magically become less or more hateful? And why?
Is there a license to hate Jews in Norway?
Are the NORWEGIANS PERMITTING ANTI-SEMITISM in their country?
jule says
I think they were occupied by nazitypes during the war and many never left. Like West Ukraine too. Norway has a dark shadow still. Not majority, of course but it is definitely still very much present.
Anjuli Pandavar says
By changing the target, would is magically become less or more hateful? And why?
—
Yes. Because Muslims say so.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“French Green Party Founder Says Europeans Must Have Less Children to Make Way For Muslim Migrants”
https://www.newswars.com/french-green-party-founder-says-europeans-must-have-less-children-to-make-way-for-muslim-migrants/
gravenimage says
Norway rules that Muslim who screamed “F**k Jews” is not guilty of “hate speech”
……………………….
More proof that “hate speech” laws are useless when it comes to *real*. Hate.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
The police ruled that “it falls within the artistic freedom of speech which artists and performers enjoy in making provocative or satirical statements”. Just like whe artists draw pictures of Mohamed?
jule says
I would like to ask that to the police dept of Norway or some delegate.
sheliak says
All Norwegian political, social, economic, religious and intellectual commentators on islam should immediately declare themselves to be ‘artists’ and so gain a right of free speech under this decision.
Westman says
We have many Hollywood and comedy celebrities who speak just like this with vulgar potty mouths at Jews, The President, and anyone else who disagrees with them. They are an absolute joy to behold as they drag the country toward the ruin of Rome; filled with pride that millions were never born and that they never have to, nor would they, fight to save the nation from a foreign power. They fill our homes with corruption, calling it good. In fact they relish giving away their children’s future(that is if they had any) to anyone who crosses the border and plans to serve themselves. They see business replace American workers with cheaper foreign temps, on the way to citizenship, and think it won’t happen to them.
They are free from the realization that there are no inexhaustible sources of other people’s money and a limit to chopping up and selling the nation. Empires just come to the eventual realization, too late, that all roads leading to Rome was an invitation to eventual dissolution.
morallytainted (@nariedel2) says
hey this is good to know if I go to Norway I will claim to be rapper and rap about goats and stuff. I am sure I will be covered by the artistic freedom of speech. You know alternatively you could just know God gave us the right to say whatever we want. It was not the constitution but God. So all you in Norway STFU
jule says
The internet will not even print it all out (usually….I see one person here got it printed …very unusual)
Anjuli Pandavar says
I’m actually glad that Norway has done this. It brings the whole “hate speech” fraud into the light of day, where we can actually debate it without being accused of “hate speech”. I recall Elisabeth Sabaditch-Wolff remarking (I don’t remember where) on thought control in Europe that it’s way worse than the Soviet Union. She’s not a woman given to glib outbursts.
james reid says
Stupid!! One rule for Everybody & a special rule for Muslims. Utterly ridiculous.
Dave says
Special rules for Muslims, because they are a special case: a nut-case.We have to make special allowances for them because their delicate mental condition causes them to react violently.
MAJack says
Scandinavia remains on the cutting edge (a bad pun) of self loathing and suicidal social policy. Glad I visited long ago, no need to go there again.
DHazard says
Did I read it right? F..k Jews can simply be two words that mean something other than what they convey on the surface and by themselves. Does that mean an “artist” can say “f..k Muhammad”? That statement isn’t even targeted against a living person so their is no “victim”. It is disastrous for a democracy to keep lies that don’t involve national security. It is also insulting to the people who pay for a politician to lie to his constituents on camera. How about this for a change; “We are not going to apply hate speech laws against Muslims until we absolutely have to because it was recorded. In the mean time just let them hate you and maybe kill you.”
This double standard also demonstrates the slow extinction of integrity from the Western world. We used to believe that freedom was the most valuable and most inherent gift that comes with life. Now it can bring about huge fines and jail time. That’s because on the heels of someone exercising free speech are judges who just want you to go away. In a few moments they can abandon the principles of justice they purportedly committed themselves to keeping and at the same time trivialize or ignore all the human sacrifice that made those principles a reality.