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Saudi girl in Bangkok airport says she can’t go home, parents will kill her for leaving Islam

Jan 6, 2019 3:17 pm By Robert Spencer

She should be given asylum in Australia. She should be offered asylum in the U.S. All countries that are committed to the freedom of conscience should be offering her asylum. She is in very real danger. The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law. It’s based on the Qur’an: “They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”

“‘I’M LOSING HOPE’ Saudi Arabian girl, 18, ‘trapped in Bangkok airport’ claiming she can’t go home because parents will ‘kill’ her for renouncing Islam,” by Aletha Adu, The Sun, January 6, 2019:

A SAUDI Arabian teenage girl is “trapped in Bangkok airport” and claims she can’t go home because her parents will “kill” her for renouncing Islam.

Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun, 18, ran away from her family while they were on a trip to Kuwait two days ago.

She tried to flee to Australia via Bangkok in hope of seeking asylum, but last night she was chased by Saudi officials who seized her passport.

And today, she posted a video at around 1pm GMT today, as she is held in the airport’s Miracle Transit Hotel.

In a flurry of stirring tweets last night, Rahaf said: “My family is strict and locked me in a room for six months just for cutting my hair.

“I’m sure 100 per cent they will kill me as soon as I get out of the Saudi jail,” adding she is “scared and losing hope”.

Her passport was taken after a relative is said to have reported her for travelling without the company of a male guardian.

She added: “I have been threatened by several staff from the Saudi embassy and the Kuwaiti airlines, and they said, ‘If you run, we will find you and kidnap you, then deal with you’.

“I really don’t know how they are going to behave in case I run.”

Thailand officials have said she will be deported to Saudi Arabia tomorrow, where renouncing Islam is punishable by death.

Thailand’s immigration chief Surachate Hakparn said: “Rahaf Mohammed M Alqunun ran away from her family to avoid marriage and she is concerned she may be in trouble returning to Saudi Arabia,” before adding, “It’s a family problem”.

Gen Surachate told the BBC he was unaware of any passport seizure.

Phil Robertson, Deputy Asia Director at Human Rights Watch tweeted: “Extremely worried that Saudi woman Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun will face similar fate & abuse if she is forced back from #Thailand.

“She wants to seek asylum, currently being kept at #Bangkok airport hotel by representatives of #SaudiArabia embassy. #FreeRahaf.”…

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Comments

  1. Peter Buckley says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    No surprise here. Atheism, like everywhere else in the “muslim world”, is growing apace:

    https://www.salon.com/2014/06/12/atheism_explodes_in_saudi_arabia_where_just_talking_about_atheism_is_illegal_partner/

    I expect to hear more and more similar stories in the coming years, until it becomes “the norm”, by which time, of course, Islam will, ipso facto, be on the road to extinction.

    • Elisha says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 7:06 pm

      They are merely exchanging one idiocy for another. This, from the grand poobah of atheistic buffoonery:

      “The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows, nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music”. – Richard Dawkins [River Out Of Eden,133]

      If the essence of our physicality “neither knows, nor cares”, explain how your worldview accounts for morality and reason.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 7:33 pm

        Does Elisha think that murdering an Atheist apostate from Islam is a bad thing? Not so you’d know…

        • Elisha says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 1:22 am

          This is not the first time you avoid to explain your worldview, gi, instead offering (again) an impertinent and utterly ignorant response. If you can’t even bear to face the origin of your ability to reason (and, by extension, the folly of your worldview), there is no hope for you. All you do is whinge “god I hate islam” like a broken record. As a Christian, which you well know, I believe murder is wrong. The question isn’t about one’s behavior, it’s about one’s behavior consistent with one’s worldview. Seriously, you embarrass yourself.

        • Carolyne says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 1:10 pm

          I don’t know what Elisha thinks or even if he thinks, but as a human being, irrespective of any religion, I believe killing except in self-defense is wrong. One does not need to believe in pie in the sky when you die to understand we are all safer if we do not wantonly kill each other in the name of an old man with a beard who will reward or punish us when we no longer exist.

        • Roger Woodhouse says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 2:32 pm

          What I find most disturbing is the fact that we in the West are even discussing the barbarism that is Islam as though it was a legal fact here.20 years ago this would have seen incredible.Isnt it time we removed the present crop of nihilists we have posing ad governments hete and elect people who are prepared to stand up to this barbaric cult which is creepingly introducing certain beliefs that we disgarded 500 years ago.Are any of our present so called leaders prepared to stand for election on an Islamic ticket and put to the people their honest views.No of course they wouldnt.Time to clear the swamp we know as Westminster.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 11:17 pm

          Wait–I “embarrass myself” wondering why this poster attacks the victim, and has nothing critical to say about those who threaten her?

          No wonder he considers voicing a hatred for the savagery of Islam to be “whinging”.

          Moreover, the idea that any vicious behavior is fine so long as it is consistent with one’s world view is utterly appalling, In that case, her parents who want to murder her for leaving Islam are just wonderful people. *Ugh*.

      • Lu says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 10:44 pm

        Deeply flawed understanding of Dawkins’ statement … plus, I do not see ANY relevance of your comment to the plight of the said Saudi girl.

        And GI commented on your drivel very aptly as well …

        • Elisha says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 1:49 am

          “Deeply flawed understanding of Dawkins’ statement”

          LOL!! No, it’s the truth that you can’t face, and it has everything to do with Peter’s comment, which intimates that atheism is somehow a “better” option that islam, which it is not. Clinging desperately to the philosophical delusion of Darwinism will destroy you, thus avoiding to explain your worldview because you can’t bear truth. Dawkins’ proclamation is crystal clear but you respond EXACTLY like a muslim – “you don’t understand”, “you quoted out of context”, “you’re not a scientist”, blah blah blah. That is because you hate truth and enjoy your sins (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12), being led by Satan (2 Corinthians 4:4).

          Jesus Christ didn’t debate people, per se, He just asked “checkmate” questions, as in Matthew 22:41-46. The Pharisees couldn’t/wouldn’t answer Him (because of their pride) but instead killed Him. I’ve NEVER met a person who likes being lied to but so very few people can accept truth, as evidenced by your impudence and lack of basic comprehension.

          So, by the grace of God, I say to you … checkmate!

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 11:24 pm

          Wait–Elisha considers Atheism worse than the bloody horror of Islam? That explains a lot, sadly. Certainly, he *hates* Anti-Jihadist Hugh Fitzgerald, rarely missing a chance to castigate that good man, while ignoring his bravely standing against the savagery of Islam.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 11:28 pm

          Thank you, Lu.

      • revereridesagain says

        Jan 7, 2019 at 8:49 am

        Elisha, whenever I come here to the best source I know for truth about Islam I can always count on being abused for my atheism by someone like you. Your loathing for anyone who doesn’t believe in your god equates with that of any Muslim. We have only the Founders and the First Amendment to protect us from people like you resorting to equivalent persecutions.

        • Alison Rogerson says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 11:30 pm

          Elisha, how can you defend the barbaric cult of Islam? It astonishes me really. It is on a par with Nazism & it is but a political ideology with expansionist desires. It was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who made a pact with Hitler himself to destroy the Jews. You are divinely commanded in your ‘holy’ book to slay every Jew. It is therefore a racist cult of hatred. The mere fact that you believe Muhammad to be the example of a perfect man defies belief! I think it is sufficiently clear, in terms of religions, that Jesus was & is the perfect example for us to follow. He brought a new divine commandment that we love one another. This was absolutely radical for the time. No one was forced to believe as it was a free choice. Yet apparently your god knew better & updated & ‘improved’ upon this perfection by revealing nothing but violence & murder as a new way of living & believing with the Qur’an! What utter crap. There was no need for a further revelation! Why would God change his mind after Jesus said that he was the Alpha & the Omega & that no one would come after him?? Therefore, Muhammad was THE forewarned false prophet & Islam is diabolically inspired. This, to me, is terrifying and completely scary! It flatly denies everything which Jesus asserted. It is indeed the mirror opposite of Christianity. The antichrist! It rehashes Ancient Jewish texts, Nestorian Christian beliefs, Zoroastrianism & Sabian faiths. Then adds violent commands to this utter nonsensical mishmash. The book has no linear order or rationality. It is full of tedious repetition & contradictions. The later Madinan verses are the violent ones which are to abrogate the earlier more peaceful verses written in Mecca. Is this the characteristic of a divinely inspired religion? Be honest with yourself now. But even so, there are scholars of history such as Tom Holland and others, who believe that Mecca did not exist at the time of Muhammad. What would you say about this? And why are swathes of Muslims leaving Islam following internet research? Many Muslims do not even know what is contained in the Qur’an! They recite it verbatim from its original Arabic which is not most Muslims’ language! When they learn this they are shocked. Many of them are coming to Christianity after having dreams and visions of Jesus. Some are just becoming atheist and many Iranians are returning to their own Persian religion of Zoroastrianism. I believe that the Iranians will be the first Islamic nation to liberate themselves from the tyranny of Islam. They are extremely proud of their pre-Islamic heritage & advanced culture & detest being conquered by a primitive Arab culture. The world will be celebrating. Victory will arrive and liberate all Muslims & all people. Not even our fellow creatures escape the tortured of Islam. They suffer a hellish agony before they die hanging up from a chain. No ore stunning is allowed. What is this disgrace about? Islam states that it is a ‘mercy for all creatures’ – really? And the utter disgust of the stoning of women? Their children are to cast the first stone at their mothers. OMG what a mercy! And 2,000 years ago Jesus forbid the stoning of a women whereas Muhammad ordered that women be stoned to death. Please answer EVERY point Elisha. I have studied your religion including Islamic commentaries, ahadith, ahadith qudsi, the Arabic language etc etc. as Jesus said: The truth shall set you free”.

    • Rufolino says

      Jan 7, 2019 at 4:32 am

      This girl will not be given asylum on grounds of persecution.

      The Pope set the world an excellent example of what to do in cases of persecution.

      He refused asylum to a persecuted Christian, Asia Bibi, saying it wasn’t his business

  2. gravenimage says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 3:54 pm

    Saudi girl in Bangkok airport says she can’t go home, parents will kill her for leaving Islam
    …………………………

    Civilized nations need to offer this girl asylum.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 4:25 pm

      Enthusiastically and compassionately seconded, gravenimage. This poor young woman’s plight serves as yet another condemnation of the worst religion of all time.

      I simply cannot abide anyone defending Islam any longer. Shame on everyone who does so, whether Muslim or non-Muslim. No exceptions.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 7:42 pm

        Absolutely.

    • Anjuli Pandavar says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 5:27 pm

      The Australian authorities might start redeeming themselves for the Lindt Cafe siege scandal. Become a haven for people who leave Islam, even if only for the self-interested reason that they’d be your best protection against those Muslims you’ve so irresponsible admitted to your country. Send your Embassy people to Bangkok Airport and rescue Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun. That would be a very good place to start and the many hundreds of thousands of people who would not be Muslim but for the threats from Muslims, will thank and respect you for your action.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 5:36 pm

      Civilized nations need to make it clear to Islam that an ideology which will not let you leave without being threatened or punished is not a religion.

      • Older Canadian says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 6:01 pm

        +1
        Commonsense!

      • Wellington says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 6:31 pm

        Wrong approach again, Terry. Islam is a religion but an EVIL religion, as is Satanism. And even IF Islam were deemed not a religion for First Amendment purposes, it would still be a protected belief system just as Nazism and Marxism are, so Islam not being considered a religion per First Amendment purposes would be nothing but a Pyrrhic victory.

        Please, Terry, try to grasp all this. The “not a religion” approach, even if correct (it isn’t), would still amount to virtually nothing. And if you could name even one American federal judge, at the District, Appeals or Supreme Court level, who is on record maintaining that Islam is not a religion, I would be most interested in who that is. And if you can’t name a single federal judge in this regard, should this not make you reflect upon your contention that Islam is not a religion?

        Look, in combating what Islam intends for all, we kuffaars have to be as informed and smart as we can be. Arguing that Islam is not a religion is a route to legal Nowheresville. I do wish you would get this.

        • Terry Gain says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 7:13 pm

          Wellington

          You and I disagree as to what constitutes a legitimate religionn. I think that as an atheist you should recuse yourself. You don’t understand that the purpose of religion is to connect one to God. It is not to provide justification to do evil or to gain political power. An ideology that does not permit people to leave the ideology is obviously a cult rather than a religion. The common bond in a religion is belief, not compulsion based on fear.

          As free men we have a right to decide the essential elements of any ideology. At some point it will be clear to most Americans that if the United States is to avoid becoming Islamic it must bar entry to Muslims. This may be impossible to accomplish if Islam is considered a religion. Do you have a cultural death wish?

          Islam is a political ideology which is subversive and opposed to American Constitutional values. Islam can’t be both a subversive political ideology and a religion entitled to constitutional protection. Unless of course, you have a constitutional death wish.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 7:52 pm

          Terry–with all respect–there have been evil religions before, such as the worship of Baal and the Aztec religion, where people thought that sacrificing humans, including babies, brought them closer to their idea of these evil deities.

          As for the practical aspect, I don’t think you are going to find that Islam is barred from being considered a religion any time soon, given that over a billion people adhere to this foul creed, and even its opponents have considered it to be a religion for centuries. Better that we understand what it is, what it calls, for, and respond accordingly.

        • Terry Gain says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 8:11 pm

          Graven Image and Wellington

          As stated in the Koran, “there is no compulsion in religion”. Since Islam clearly punishes people who exercise freedom of conscience and leave the cult, Islam is not a religion – according to the Koran. Please show some respect for the adherents of this deplorable death cult.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 8:26 pm

          Terry, you may believe that Muslims hence agree that Islam is not a religion, but sadly no Muslims actually think this way.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 8:35 pm

          There is (again) so much you got wrong, Terry. First of all, I am not an atheist. In fact, I have developed a proof, so far not refuted, which demonstrates that atheism is illogical and intellectually arrogant. So, just as you have incorrectly assessed me, so have you incorrectly assessed related matters.

          Second, one person’s cult is another person’s religion. Frankly, I find all religions cults but Islam alone among the major religions is an evil cult (religion). Again I would ask you where is it written that a religion must be good? This assertion of yours, that because Islam is wicked it is therefore not a religion, is nothing more than an assumption masquerading as an axiom.

          Third, you stated, and I quote, “Islam can’t be both a subversive political ideology and a religion entitled to constitutional protection.” Well, why not? Nazism and Marxism are both subversive political ideologies, even though not claiming traditional religious status, and they are both protected belief systems per the First Amendment, something I have mentioned to you numerous times. So, even if Islam is ONLY a political ideology for First Amendment purposes, it is still a protected belief system and your’re being correct that Islam is not a religion (even though you are wrong per any case law I have ever read) would amount to a difference without a distinction.

          I could write much more about your erroneous thinking, but I suspect it would do no good. And, by all means, if you come across any federal (or state) magistrate judicially arguing that Islam is not a religion for First Amendment purposes, please inform me in this regard.

          Islam is evil, Terry. It is wicked, as are Marxism and Nazism. Concentrate upon this factor and quit wasting your time on an arid argument that has no basis in American law. Opposing Islam and what it intends for us all requires us to be as informed and smart as we can be. I know you mean well and I know you’re intelligent, and we both share our disgust with Islam, but you remain uninformed respecting how best to thwart Mo’s despicable creed.

          Let me sum it all up: Islam is a religion but it is imperative that it be widely viewed as iniquitous. Should this happen, the “Islam is not a religion” approach will be properly treated as the useless and erroneous assessment which it surely is. Please desist from thinking a religion must be good. At least for legal purposes (and I would argue for ALL purposes), this way of thinking is a major, indeed an insuperable, error and actually hinders optimally opposing the malevolent religion which is Islam.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 8:45 pm

          Per your 8:11 P.M. post, Terry, and which only supports again my approach in dealing with Islam in America, Islam has every right under the First Amendment to put forward the BELIEF, the CONVICTION, the DICTATE, that those who leave Islam are to be killed, but where Islam is devoid of right per the First Amendment in this specific matter, i.e, death for apostasy, is ACTING upon this Islamic requirement. Just as NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) has a right under the First Amendment to argue for the wonderfulness of pederasty, in effect to put forward this belief, it has no right to ACT upon this belief per American criminal law.

          And thus is it the case with so much that Islam puts forward which is putrid. Please try to grasp all this, Terry.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jan 6, 2019 at 11:46 pm

          Islam has every right under the First Amendment to put forward the BELIEF, the CONVICTION, the DICTATE, that those who leave Islam are to be killed…”

          Wellington, you practiced law, so I’ll defer to you. But I suspect the above “right” is a bit more of a grey area, no? The First Amendment surely would not protect the right of an imam to say to one of his mosque attendees, “You tell me your daughter left Islam? Then you must persuade her to come back, but if she does not, then you must kill her, that is from the Prophet!” Would that be protected speech? Surely not.

          A grey aspect is perhaps that the First Amendment protects the Qur’an, in part because some argue that it is not crystal clear that the book constitutes direct, present day incitement to violent sedition and violent treason. Also, the Qur’an is just an old book, not an arrestable living person who is at this moment urging violent jihad. But if an individual mouthed some of the things in the Qur’an and clearly meant certain people to take those commands literally in the near future, that speech would not be protected, I imagine you’d agree.

          I seem to recall that during World War II, Mein Kampf was censored at times in the US. Consequently its availability was limited. But the situation with Islam is different, for one thing because the Islamic war against the world is relatively invisible and people don’t perceive any state of emergency that might in war time be used to justify censorship of the enemy’s war manual. The Islamic war is waged mainly by jihad terror, intimidation of any criticism of Islam, also by hijra, immigration, so as to gradually become the largest or most dominant segment of a nation’s population, so that then Islamic law can gradually be imposed.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 12:19 am

          Re the discussion about whether Islam is a “religion”. I think the answer depends on which field you are operating in. In the legal field I think the question might have a different answer than in philosophical or theological fields.

          In the legal field, in other words if you are talking about how US law views “religions”, I think any approach that says Islam is not “really” a religion misses part of the established meaning of the First Amendment. The First Amendment seems to mean that, to a large extent, the government cannot be in the business of defining what is religion and what is not. A ramification of the First Amendment is that the government does not get to tell you what is and is not religion. That’s why it is a mistake to think that Islam-critics, if they get people to admit Islam is not a “religion,” can remove Islam from the shelter provided by the First Amendment.

          However, if one is not speaking in legal terms, but in terms of the philosophy of religion, there are qualified senses in which one might be able reasonably to argue that Islam is not a “religion.” Such arguments are more or less irrelevant to the legal context.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 7, 2019 at 10:42 am

          eduardo: Thanks for your two comments. Specific and credible threats against an individual are not protected as free speech by the First Amendment but a generic “apostasy from Islam requires death” would be protected. As for Mein Kampf being banned in the US during WWII, I have no knowledge that this ever occurred. Perhaps some libraries refused to stock it, but I am not aware of any federal government prohibition of it. Besides, as was often said, almost nobody read it (though Winston Churchill did), including Germans, so badly and turgidly was it composed, although to be complete many Germans bought it to show it off prominently in their home or at work.

          I appreciate your attempt to distinguish between a legal meaning of religion and other possible meanings. Here at JW I have pretty much only argued the legal aspects of it here in America, though, off hand, even non-legally I am inclined to think that just because a religious belief system is evil does not equate to it not being a religion, but this is an abstraction that reasonable minds can differ about.

          Hope you are doing well. Happy New Year.

      • Lydia Church says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 10:22 pm

        This is sort of a general comment to the whole discussion.

        I was actually impressed with the dialogue here. These are complex and controversial issues and folks are all discussing it, even debating it, without cutting each other’s heads off. That is one thing that makes the difference between us and them, call it what one may. I encourage everyone to keep up that intellectual and cool headed mode. We can have a great discourse and maybe even get a new insight without getting angry and heated up over a simple disagreement on semantics or something like that. Of course we won’t all agree. We are all pitching our points though. When it comes to what defines a religion, I gave that lecture at least once before on here. And it was a long one. And I know as always, some will disagree. So it goes with everything. We all have our sorting toys and the Venn diagram classification categories set up one way and the other another way. Is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable?
        Have fun! (I know they say it is a fruit, but we eat it as a vegetable. And islam is a religion because it is treated as one by its adherents. How can you ‘prove’ it is or is not? I see the angle that is attempted with that view of getting it out of here, and at least there is a good intention in mind with it.)

        : D

  3. Renate says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    This is the kind of person who should be prioritized as a real refugee.

  4. Crusades Were Right says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 4:27 pm

    Can someone please explain how “representatives” of Saudi Arabia are in a position to keep anybody prisoner in a Thailand hotel?

    • Renate says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 7:02 pm

      They’re not. but they don’t see other countries with borders. They just see one big ummah, so they’re going to act as though Shariah law applies everywhere.

  5. mortimer says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 4:33 pm

    Soon MILLIONS of Muslim women will use this method of gaining a foreign passport.

    But will they all be sincere drop-outs from Islam?

    • Richard L.B. Thomas says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 5:38 pm

      Wonderful point, Mortimer! Best way in the world to find out who your enemies are, what are their strengths and weaknesses are, what they know and don’t know, etc. It used to be called being a double agent.

    • Older Canadian says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 6:03 pm

      Nope! There will be many, many like Linda S. All part of the plan

      • Terry Gain says

        Jan 6, 2019 at 6:24 pm

        Sarsour is a completely compliant Muslima.

    • Emma says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 7:04 pm

      in canada with the illegal border crossings, up tp 70% of all the nigérians claim homosexual persecution, compared to 25% before the illegal border crossings took place and only 12% claimants from other countries for the same reason amongst illegal border crossers. Even some canadian authorities questioned the disproportionate high percentage of gay persecution claims.

    • mummymovie says

      Jan 7, 2019 at 8:44 am

      I’m not sure apostasy would ever be deemed by the imams, muftis, and mullahs a permissible means for hijra: It is far too risky.

      I have often argued this will be the only way C-J advocates like ourselves can hope to begin to accomplish our objectives; to become a safe haven for apostates here in the U.S. and intensify support systems, resources and networks to reinforce their decisions to leave islam. This is key to arresting its plague-like spread.

      Unfortunately, the establishment media is only paying attention to Ms. Qunun’s plight because they can use it in their relentless pile-on to make Donald Trump look bad via his relationship and connections to the Saudis- just like the Khashoggi farce. As soon as it starts to reflect negatively on islam as a whole, however, they will drop the story like a load of bricks, and abandon Ms. Qunun, just as they did with Asia Bibi. You won’t see any serious coverage of the apostasy-in-islam issue, I can guarantee that.

      I am crossing my fingers that women begin applying for asylum on grounds of wanting to leave this cursed religious, political, and military ideology.

      • balafama says

        Jan 7, 2019 at 9:49 am

        all she needs to say is that she is a lesbian ,queer ,transgender, christian hating ,illegal immigration, climate change,feminist activist .voila the eu and canada will be falling all over themselves to take her in. she will get all the freebies the eu/canada can come up with , in fact she will get a well paying job for life and our dear pope will send a private jet to pick her up and wash her feet when she arrives the vatican.

  6. Indiana Tom says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    “I’m sure 100 per cent they will kill me as soon as I get out of the Saudi jail,”
    Yes.
    but last night she was chased by Saudi officials who seized her passport.
    What power do they have in Bangkok?
    Thailand’s immigration chief Surachate Hakparn said: “Rahaf Mohammed M Alqunun ran away from her family to avoid marriage and she is concerned she may be in trouble returning to Saudi Arabia,”
    So Thailand is a vassal state to Saudi Arabia?

  7. OzClare says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    I have looked at 2 news sites in Australia, the ABC and Nine News and they do not mention that she has left Islam, only that she travelled without a male guardian and this is forbidden in Saudi Arabia. I could give them the benefit of the doubt and suggest they are not mentioning this to protect this poor girl by publicising her apostasy in the printed media knowing it is a capital offence in her country. I am sorry for her as she is without help and no country will jeopardise their relations with powerful Saudi Arabia over the fate of an ‘unknown’ friendless young woman.

    • David M says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 7:29 pm

      BBC radio did an interview with her & she renounced Islam in the interview because “women have no rights under Islam.” Good publicity for the anti-Islam movement. I hope she gets asylum.

  8. somehistory says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    He won’t help her because it’s “a family affair”? Are there not any human rights laws in Thailand,? Any family courts? Do they not understand domestic abuse?

    Is there nowhere young women like her…and Mrs. Bibi…can go to limit the danger from the likes of evil moslims who work directly for satan? Is there no country that will step up and do the right thing and offer help to these women?

    islam has the world by the throat and the authorities are allowing the knife to be sharpened for cutting off the heads of every citizen that opposes the evil.

    Even in Thailand they should have someone who could step up and tell the saudis to go home, to say that these creepy creatures full of arrogance and hate have ho authority outside their own country.

    The next report, she will be found floating in some body of water, all taped up like the two girls in NY a few months ago.

    • t says

      Jan 6, 2019 at 9:02 pm

      A very good post, somehistory!

  9. Prabh108 says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 6:31 pm

    Though there is no official religion of Thailand (according to online info), the reigning monarch of Thailand is a practitioner of the religion of Gautam the Buddha. For Thai authorities to not offer assistance is a gross abdication of Dharmic duties to protect vulnerable persons.

    If Thai officials offer help to this young woman so that she remains safe and free a strong message would be sent to islamo- theocrats.

    The world is not a prison but islam sure makes it seem like one: after all ‘there is no fun in islam”. (words of an ayatollah)

  10. somehistory says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 10:18 pm

    Thank you, T.

  11. Cunamarra says

    Jan 6, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    Barton Springs

  12. Battle says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 1:12 am

    Arranged marriage may be only parental permission, but if she was purchased by future husband”s payment or promised payment to the father, then slavery and/or human trafficking Thailand laws against?

  13. DogOnPorch says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 1:33 am

    Canada would never take her in as it would upset our Muslim masters.

    • J D.S says

      Jan 7, 2019 at 11:18 am

      “Returned to Saudi Arabia where leaving Islam is punishable by death” “family affair
      These are problems in Islam. Problems t h at no western nation deems to want to address.
      It’s just Weird that a RELIGION that teaches such as is Islam does and that nations that are not Islamic are friendly with such nations say…like America vs Saudi Arabia’s…Ah..Oil and money..there’s the reason.

  14. Terry Gain says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 11:14 am

    Every journey begins with a single step. Islam will be declared an illegitimate religion not entitled to the protection of the American Constitution ( which it seeks to replace with Islamic Law) or the unrelenting ideology of conquest will conquer America.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/opinion/islamophobia-muslim-religion-politics.html

  15. European pagan says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 12:48 pm

    There are people who really need help. I worked together with 2 iranian women who can never go back to Iran because they changed their religion and in Iran they would put them in prison for their whole life, where they would be tortured too, it is not like a european prison where people can watch TV like in a hotel. And Saudi Arabia is worse, it is a primitive stone age country. Maybe they will stone her to death. It is good when someone wakes up and leaves this evil womanhater religion. And death punishment for leaving islam???? They want to tell people in what they have to believe?? It is somewhere in Quran that noone can be forced to believe, or something similar but this people always choose parts what they like, and forget other parts.

  16. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    If these bungholes weren’t such utter hypocrites, they’d read up on real sharia (The Hedaya) and realize that women are always to be considered to be too inherently stupid (“naturally deficient in intelligence and religion”) to ever be killed for apostasy.

  17. Jack Maxwell says

    Jan 7, 2019 at 11:13 pm

    If Islam ever reversed killing those leaving it, there’d be no woman left.

  18. David Dodge says

    Jan 8, 2019 at 8:49 pm

    sad that thailand caved

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