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Saudi “human rights” group “surprised by incitement of female delinquents to rebel against values of their families”

Jan 16, 2019 3:00 pm By Robert Spencer

The Saudis don’t want to let this Rahaf thing get out of hand. Imagine if thousands, or millions, of Saudi women started fleeing for their lives. The regime itself could collapse. And worst of all is that if that actually began to happen, Western governments would start sending those Saudi women back to the Kingdom of the Two Holy Places in droves. And chains.

“Saudi-Backed Organization Denounces Nations For ‘Inciting’ Women To Flee,” Reuters, January 14, 2019:

An organisation backed by Saudi Arabia accused several foreign countries of inciting young women to reject their families, the first public comments from Riyadh since a woman claiming domestic abuse was granted asylum in Canada over the weekend.

The National Society for Human Rights (NSHR) did not name 18-year-old Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun, who grabbed international attention after barricading herself in a Bangkok airport hotel room and appealing for help on Twitter to resist being sent back to her family, which denies any abuse.

But in a statement late on Sunday NSHR head Mufleh al-Qahtani accused unspecified countries and international organisations of pursuing political agendas and “pushing (women) ultimately to be lost and maybe to fall into the arms of brokers and human traffickers”.

While NSHR says it is independent, the U.S. State Department describes it as “government-funded”….

NSHR “was surprised by some countries’ incitement of some Saudi female delinquents to rebel against the values of their families and push them out of the country and seek to receive them under the pretext of granting them asylum,” Qahtani said….

The case has also drawn attention to Saudi Arabia’s guardianship system, which requires women to have the permission of a male relative to travel, sometimes trapping them as prisoners of abusive families.

Qahtani said Saudi laws forbid mistreatment and allow women to report it, but international rights groups say in practice many Saudi women fear that going to the police would only further endanger their lives.

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  1. DanC says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 3:19 pm

    This is exactly why I hope Rahaf is the start of a big movement. More women from Islamic theocracies should use social media and show to the entire world how it is to live under Islam.

    • tim gallagher says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 5:03 pm

      Totally agree, DanC. It would be great to see. It will take incredible courage from the women to take on the vicious, murderous, Islamic theocratic hell holes. It took plenty of courage for this young woman to do what she did and I guess it could have ended badly for her. Like you, I hope this starts a big movement.

      • thebigW says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 3:49 pm

        yeah tim gallagher and DanC, it would also be great if all lakes turned into cold beer and all supermodels wanted to go out with me; but it ain’t likely to happen. Actually, those two wishes are more likely than your stupid wish that millions of Muslims suddenly stopped following Mohammed.

        • tim gallagher says

          Jan 17, 2019 at 5:21 pm

          Alas, thebigW, you’re almost certainly right. It won’t lead to a big movement. Your comment is realistic. I’m usually pretty pessimistic (or realistic) about how things are going to turn out in our neverending war with islam, ( I see a huge war coming one day, although, as I’m quite old, I ‘m unlikely to see it) but occasionally I let my hope that large numbers of Muslims wake up and leave the foul ideology behind and join the civilised world take over. My main policy in relation to islam is that no non-Muslim nation should be foolish enough to let Muslims migrate inside their borders. Just keep Islam out. Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic have the right idea. It’s completely incompatible. It’s the only possible solution. Keep barbaric Islam shut away in its own part of the world. Islam is nothing but trouble to all non-Muslims and always has been..

        • thebigW says

          Jan 17, 2019 at 6:56 pm

          Sounds good, tim, thanks!

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:51 pm

      Yes Dan, but more importantly we should show Muslim women what it is like to live in the free world. Imagine how glorious it is to be able to go out in public without having to wear a tent.

      • earthmover2014 says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 5:57 am

        Lots of Muslim women in Canada are living under sharia.

        • b.a. freeman says

          Jan 17, 2019 at 9:57 am

          +1

      • b.a. freeman says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 9:57 am

        sadly, Terry, the liars and fools who misrule us also refuse to protect us. yes, ms. mohammed has managed to escape for now, but the long arm of the ummah is in canadastan as well, and is just waiting for the right moment to administer the death blow. OTOH, that is how we *ALL* must live here in the west, since the traitors refuse to protect us…

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 7:48 pm

      Yes, I’d love to see it.

  2. observer says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    These ruthless islamic dictatorships HAVE TO PROJECT THEIR EVIL ONTO OTHERS, DONT THEY ?!!!
    Much less painful than to seek for the log in their own (collective) eye.

    Honestly, the more I follow JW the greater the feeling that I am wandering around in the very realm/s of hell itself.
    THE EVIL IS ENDLESS !!!! — THE NAIVITY OF WESTER POLITICIANS SUPREMELY DISTURBING.
    I truly see the SLICKNESS OF DEVILS at play.
    What an orgy of deception, mayhem, rape, maiming, torture & murder.
    What an unredeemable slaughter-house islam is.

    O LORD ! MAKE HASTE TO HELP THOSE BEING PERSECUTED AND THOSE OF US WHO LOOK ON AND SEE CLEARLY WHAT IS TO COME IF WESTERN POLITICIANS IGNORE THIS INTERMINABLE INSANITY…

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 11:06 am

      Amen.

    • b.a. freeman says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 11:06 am

      observer, i cannot believe that *ALL* western officials are ignorant of islam. it is almost statistically impossible that *ALL* of them are ignorant; therefore, the only alternative is that many, if not most, *are* aware of its vile behaviors, and are thus complicit. were these just “ordinary” citizens, it could be argued that they simply had not bothered to examine the cult; as such, they would have no reason (other than good citizenship) to do so, but these are all politicians, the people who are quickest on their feet, those who are purportedly responsible for protecting us, and who are most likely to always be looking for both advantages for themselves and weaknesses and strengths of their opponents. all indications are that we are being betrayed, and not that our leaders are idiots.

      so what would favoring islam get them? first of all, the education system of the u.s. has been firmly in the hands of the *hard* left for *decades*. the universities first fell to them in the 1970s, and their control extended to secondary education, and even primary education, by the 1990s. i’m not so certain about what happened in canadian education, but eurabian education has been in the hands of leftists since the late 1800s. the bottom line is that almost everybody who graduates from any level of education is at least nominally a leftist, because “students” are only exposed to leftist ideas in the context of “good acts” and “doing good things;” consequently, their first reaction when deciding to do or support that which is “good” is to whip out a leftist “ideal.” the next consequence is that the electorate leans mostly left, and therefore, the government does as well; in fact, since power and seeking power is at the center of leftist thought, leftists tend to congregate in government service, since low pay is not a disincentive to the committed, and power *is* an incentive to “serve.” the result is that the government is either in the process of turning hard left, or taking a slower turn to the left, regardless of the appellation of the party in power.

      now, the left has almost always seized power when society was in flux (e.g., in russia in 1917, cambodia in the 1970s, china after WWII, etc.), so if the west imports muslims, about 10% of whom are guaranteed to be pious, then chaos will be imposed on society, and power can be seized. since the government is virtually certain to be in leftist hands, a people’s republic can be imposed after martial law is imposed to fix the chaos. and since the electorate will be giddy to be rescued from random death, there will be no protests from them.

      or perhaps i’m just paranoid. yeah, that’s the ticket; islam is really safe, and the left is always trustworthy. not.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jan 18, 2019 at 2:02 am

        b. a. freeman…you seem seriously curious about this Leftist stuff so I’ll share what I discovered today while attempting to learn more about Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. I soon came upon two fascinating pieces from the 1970’s. One was his 1978 Harvard speech “A WORLD SPLIT APART”. He describes SOCIALISM and its ruthless tactics and you’d think he’d been transported forward to 2019 (50 years later) – it was incredible how many familiar bells it rang – the man was not just a great writer but a VISIONARY as well. Youtube has a video but the translator competes with Solzhenitsyn’s Russian, so anyone interested might prefer downloading a transcript (free and ten pages long) from:

        http://historicvoices.libsyn.com/pdf-transcript-alexandr-solzhenitsyn-a-world-split-apart

        Next I see that Solzhenitsyn very proudly did the lengthy Foreward to a definitive classic called “THE SOCIALIST PHENOMENON” by mathematician Igor Shafarevich (who died in 1917). The 130 page book was published by Harper Row in 1980 but is now out of print and very difficult to find. Fortunately it can be downloaded:

        https://ia601404.us.archive.org/28/items/SocialistPhenomenon/SocialistPhenomenon.pdf

        I’ve just gotten past the Foreward and find it fascinating also. Solzhenitsyn says it is THE book and proves better than any that SOCIALISM WILL ALWAYS FAIL.

      • Will says

        Jan 18, 2019 at 7:03 am

        Ms. al-Qunun, who has renounced Islam, is concerned about her safety in light of continued online threats, including from family members, said Yasmine Mohammed, a human-rights activist living in British Columbia. Ms. Yasmine Mohammed, helps individuals who have left Islam.
        ……. an ‘APOSTATE’ …. hush now…. HUSH…..
        The Liberal media are burying this bit of Islamic sacrilege ! They can’t be seen to be complicit in enabling a Muslim teenager to leave her faith …..
        That’s blasphemous { & it doesn’t jive with the Liberal’s M-103 blasphemy edits} and could cause quite a bit of Liberal grief…. we do have our fair share of Islamist fundamentalist fanatics in this country ….
        It’s little wonder the Libera media and their islamists are sweeping Ms. al-Qunun’s apostasy under the proverbial prayer rug …

  3. Jean Terry says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 3:52 pm

    She is certainly a brave young woman because I can’t imagine the ramifications back home for her if she were returned. I agree with you that it would be great if this was the start of a new movement among Saudi women.

    • Joe says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 7:09 am

      About 10 years ago, a Saudi woman wrote an autobiography on how she was able to escape. She and her friends would rather die than live in Saudi Arabia. Some of her friends were tortured for bad behavior, and at least one was killed by her father who drowned her in the swimming pool. The authorities approved of the father’s actions.

  4. Jayme says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    Canada and the Saudi’s have been in a big political fight for about a year now this move by the great PM is not about the young girl this is about getting back at the kingdom.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:54 pm

      It is about Trudeau signalling his virtue. In this case he made the right move. it wasn’t exactly a difficult decision. in fact it was so easy that even Trudeau got it right.

      • b.a. freeman says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 11:09 am

        😀
        +1

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 11:21 am

        Maybe not, it’s quite a blatant move and the Saudis may retaliate at their pleasure. It does seem to beat his waving up at the peanut gallery however (at least for now). Justine will never seriously address the truly ‘delinquent’ core “values” of his imported Islam however. Throwing around lots of money and a few tokens are more his style.

        • Carol the 1st says

          Jan 17, 2019 at 11:30 am

          A PYRRHIC VICTORY:
          – achieved at excessive cost
          also : costly to the point of negating or outweighing expected benefits
          “a great but Pyrrhic act of ingenuity”

  5. Rarely says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 4:35 pm

    Golly gee!! Imagine an 18 year old “girl” rebelling against her parents’ dictates. In North America such action is so normal it seems obligatory as a “right of passage” into adulthood. Even in the most functional of families parents would be hard pressed to play matchmaker.
    This case helps illustrate a problem in the West that is often ignored — the pressuring of Islamic girls into arranged marriages. It is quite possible that we will see an increase in rebellion against this practice here and, I believe, that will be to the good. It is highly unlikely that it will get much exposure in Saudi Arabia or in any muslim country where the media is on a short string..

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 7:58 pm

      Yes–many, perhaps even most, Muslim girls suffer forced marriage.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 12:41 pm

      There’s a problem also with “ASSISTED SUICIDE” for unruly young female ‘delinquents’. And can you believe it’s happening right here in Canada under Justine’s feminist nose!! (see 11:25 to end):

      Trudeau and Freeland EXPOSED ! Tom Quiggin : Honor Ki11ings rampant in Canada !!

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 7:13 pm

        Yes–many “suicides” are actually Honor Killings.

  6. keith says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    The lack of action by a lot of countries is down to a single thing OIL.
    Nobody wants to upset these arseholes because of all the oil they are sitting on top of. A bit like a junkie not wanting to piss off his dealer.
    I admire the lass who has more courage than most nations in standing up to this abomination hiding in the guise of a “peaceful religion”.
    I think she will be in protection for the rest of her life. Remember Salman Rushdie?

  7. somehistory says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 6:50 pm

    Canada has that thing going…the M-103 or whatever the number is…no truth about islam if it sheds any light on the evils therein. moslim girls play hoaxes and make claims of “he cut/grabbed/snatched my scarf” and such things. moslims in the government.

    And yet, Canada allows this girl into the country and gives her around-the-clock security to protect her from the moslims the saudis send after her…possibly to bind and drown the girl for leaving islam and its depravity.

    Strange times in which we live.

    • Jayme says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:55 pm

      The left says the womens marches are about rights for girls and women well if you look at the social pages of the marches in Ottawa and Toronto both are nothing more then pro islam marches.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 6:58 pm

      As a Canadian I think M-103 is going nowhere. Even Trudope must know it’s a loser.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jan 18, 2019 at 11:57 am

        Terry…I wonder. Some “Cathy Newman-style” CBC interviewer repeatedly and VERY FIRMLY insisted to Maxime Bernier that his alarms re the UN Migration Compact were to be dismissed as “IT DOES NOT HAVE THE FORCE OF LAW!” – (right! just like the entree of fire-extinguisher M-103). So I guess we’re to believe that Canadians can “just relax” and get screwed with more ease.

        I’d like to see Bernier come across with more bombast as he seems to have a better grasp of what’s at stake. He could be the “dark horse”. Scheer seems just too cheerful and careful. Canadians are remaining “nice” as usual and don’t seem to have caught up with Europe’s Populist wave. I guess we need the ELECTION REFORM once promised, elimination of funding the CBC, and a sane leader. It should help.

  8. David M says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    “Qahtani said Saudi laws forbid mistreatment and allow women to report it.”

    “The case has also drawn attention to Saudi Arabia’s guardianship system, which requires women to have the permission of a male relative to travel, sometimes trapping them as prisoners of abusive families.”

    How stupid do the Saudis think we are, the guardian system itself is the mistreatment of women.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 8:01 pm

      +1

    • b.a. freeman says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 11:21 am

      How stupid do the Saudis think we are …
      —
      pretty stupid, David. let’s face it, they have *lots* of evidence that we *ARE* a bunch of dumba**es. not even our governments bother looking at what middle-easterners say in arabic, and god forbid that any commie in the press should actually do that. it’s hard to argue with success … and *they* are having all the successes, not us.

  9. sheliak says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm

    There are, of course, no male delinquents in Islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 8:03 pm

      Pretty much only if they are gay or apostates. Apart from that, pretty much never.

  10. gravenimage says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    Saudi “human rights” group “surprised by incitement of female delinquents to rebel against values of their families”
    ………………………..

    How *dare* you consider fleeing if your family is abusing you, wants to marry you off to some old man you don’t love, or even murder you?

    That makes you a “delinquent”.

    A British-Saudi girl who had been kidnapped by her father and regularly beaten and threatened with death was able to flee and go to the Saudi police. They told her that her father had every right to murder her if he wanted to. It was only later that she was able to escape–with *no* help from police or anyone else.

    God, I hate Islam.

  11. eduardo odraude says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 9:14 pm

    The people seeking under the guise of “human rights” to stop the escape of women from Islamic totalitarianism are evil. Islamic regimes will fall, and their leaders and supporters will pay. Voices cry out to heaven against you and one day perhaps heaven’s judgement will come down on you like hell.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2019 at 11:06 pm

      Muslims use civilized Western terms–“human rights”, “justice”, “freedom of religion”, “women’s rights”, etc–but seldom with Western meaning.

  12. somehistory says

    Jan 16, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    Terry Gain ,
    That’s good to know.

  13. DanC says

    Jan 17, 2019 at 11:15 am

    Awesome, she’s actually funny (taunting the mullahs):

    https://torontosun.com/news/national/saudi-teen-starbucks-bacon-eggs-and-bare-legs

    Oh, and plenty of morons commenting ‘boohoo, how much of my tax money is spent on her security’.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 7:15 pm

      I’d far rather have my tax dollars go on protecting this girl than on appeasing Islam.

  14. Crusades Were Right says

    Jan 17, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    “NSHR ‘was surprised by some countries’ incitement of some Saudi female delinquents to rebel against the values of their families and push them out of the country and seek to receive them under the pretext of granting them asylum,’ Qahtani said….”

    “Push”? Seems Mufleh al-Qahtani doesn’t know how “pushing” works!

    “Push” the other one, Mufleh!

    ; ¬)

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jan 18, 2019 at 12:34 pm

      “pretext”??? When Mohammed died were all the thousands of ‘delinquents’ who tried to desperately scramble away being influenced by infidel enticements or by the swords at their backsides? What an astounding pity for generation after generation and culture after culture that they didn’t manage to empty and disband the malicious, disturbed, and fear-mongering enterprise called Islam.

      There are SOOO many clues that Moe’s peers thought very badly of him and his enablers. These clues help restore some of your faith in humanity and muslims. The remnants are in the West now and should once again try to “get while the getting’s good”.

  15. thebigW says

    Jan 17, 2019 at 3:47 pm

    to Terry Gain, there are plenty of Muslim women who don’t wear any covering at all who are doing stealth jihad and defending Islam and attacking the West.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 7:16 pm

      This is also true, thebigW.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2019 at 7:17 pm

      This is also grimly true, thebigW.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 17, 2019 at 7:18 pm

        Sorry for the double post.

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